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I tried speaking about the recent situation of /sci/ before, but was sadly censored. Before resuming to my previous points, I would like to get tangential for a bit.
Due to the recent SW/SH debacle I've found myself on the /vp/ community. There was and is great turmoil in the community, shit being flung from side to side alongside the common threads and generals. Despite having its population split apart, all discussion was still focused on a single subject, pokemon. The atmosphere was friendly and open, you could still find your bits of bait, racism, degeneracy and shit posting. This however, didn't steal focus from it being a pokemon board first and foremost, for nerds deeply invested in the franchise and no actual political points were taken. The mix of freedom of speech and genuine interest from every anon are what make /vp/ an suitable home for fans to be.
I truly believe /sci/ has the potential of becoming one of the best places for discussion of science on the internet. Unfortunately, this is being taken from us by foreigners who come to shit on our place to try and use science to voice their skewed opinions and biases with little to no regard to the native population.
For how long are we going to allow disingenuous people with no true scientific interest to make our place theirs?
A thing that I want you all to keep in mind is that I don't care or think we should care about random racism, critics or disagreement as long as it stem from the thought of the individual rather than organized movements and mob mentality. OP's text and thumbnail define what the thread will devolve into and at least that should be aligned with /sci/'s interests.
I'm NOT pleading for censorship, I'm pleading for focus.

>> No.11167105

>>11167102
My previous suggestions still stand:

Scientific denial threads should not be here
>Muh science religion cultists
/sci/ works on the basis of theoretical science being absolute. Trying to deconstruct the scientific method or proved modern science concepts amounts to nothing and takes the space from actual discussion and from academics/amateurs interested in constructing/exploring the subject.
Leave your philosophical autism on
>>>/his/
And your conspiracy theories on
>>>/x/
>>>/pol/

>But muh right to shitpost
As in any other board /sci/ has naturally developed its own flavor of shitposting.
Your race bait, retarded philosophy and conspiracy theories are not part of our culture. Go somewhere else.

Threads about IQ and race should be on /pol/, not here.
>B-but my science!
Those threads are made in the interest of being discriminatory and not really discussing science or even the topic in itself. We've been flooded with dozens of these threads and they amount to nothing.

Baity thread about evil whaman and global warming should not be here.
>But at least you agree with gender differences and global warming being scientific so where am I going to post about that then?
It's of the utmost interest of /sci/ to discuss about science. However, these sorts of threads are usually poorly made, pull from uncredible baity internet sites, and are created to spew political agenda that shouldn't be here.
In an ideal world, your average /sci/ user should be able to discern discussion from political bait, so be free to create an elaborate LONG post with actual original point coming from your understanding and we'll gladly oblige to respond to you, otherwise your thread's place is here
>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/
>>>/x/

Don't fool yourself we're in the mid of a non-organized /pol/ invasion and we will lose this board's culture if we let that go on. Take a look to what happened to /tv/, /his/ and /lit/.

>> No.11167108

>>11167102
>>>/qa/ is for meta threads

>> No.11167113

>>11167102
wrong science is still science, unfortunately
we had to be wrong 100 times before we could be right about anything
yes, its redundant having the same threads with the same rebuttals over and over again proving some idiot wrong
but thats the scientific way of doing things, op

>> No.11167127

>>11167113
You don't need to be a genius to see that they don't seek and are not open actual discussion. Only confirmation biases from other people with same opinions who also happen to be here.
/sci/ should be open for the ignorant on the subject that has actual interest in learning. Like the guy who asked if someone would did if you sunk him on oil and lit fire on it or what if simulation is real.

>> No.11167139

Maybe if mods and jannies would DO THEIR JOB AND REMOVE THREADS THAT ARE REPORTED FOR BEING LOW QUALITY this wouldn't be that big of a problem

>> No.11167167

>>11167105
>Baity thread about evil whaman and global warming should not be here.
Agree with trepidation. My degree is in Earth science and I'm pursuing a planetary science degree. While I will admit 'baity' climate threads should not be allowed I worry that people will claim 'every' climate thread is not allowed. Usually I come here and end up using my education to correct people's misunderstandings about how the climate works and it can be enjoyable because while people do post lots of garbage in such threads enough science is being discussed that someone who's goal is to pursue knowledge will gather some pretty good information.

Perhaps I should make more science based climate threads.
Perhaps I should make more science based climate threads.

>> No.11167270

>>11167102
>Something has to be done
What? This sounds so scary. The subject of your post should reflect the intent in pick related.
> as long as it stem from the thought of the individual rather than organized movements and mob mentality
I like this part, except "mob mentality." You assume that people with opposing opinions are a mob. They are individuals and most of them the samefagg. You seem to know a lot about 4chan. /sci/ is where I come 90 per cent of the time. /o/ and /ck/ are the only other boards that I've been to. It seems that you are part of your own problem. This board is useful, not only for science guys, but people who "love science," want to improve themselves, seeking understanding of conspiracy theories. I am almost /sci/ and take care of a light of a lot lightweights for the board. I'm much more of a mathematician since coming around a couple years ago. The only thing to do is not stoke the flames of stupidity. Disregard obvious retardation. I like it the way it is. Well, almost. I don't need to like everything.

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>>11167102
>>11167105
Only one type of bait belongs on sci.

>> No.11167358

>>11167323
It gets better every fucking time

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>>11167270
>You assume that people with opposing opinions are a mob.
and he's right
thousands of r9k incels and polniggers who've never written a line of code flooded /sci/ and /g/ when some girl got recognized for her contributions on an international astronomy experiment, and they shitposted the board into oblivion for a day
it wasn't 1 samefag

>you are part of your own problem
>seeking understanding of conspiracy theories
this is what these faggots want us to believe
if you actually read papers, take time to weigh facts, know more than just pop science or high school math, then you're the mob
and if you post a shit conspiracy / race science / "i fucking hate science / academia" thread, you're a soldier standing alone against the raving mob, bravely spamming your infopics all by yourself.

>> No.11168028

>>11167384
>who've never written a line of code
>when some girl got recognized
Jokes on you. That girl has never written any code herself.
Getting promoted over more competent colleagues because you have a vagina is a real thing. It's official policy in universities and several companies.

>> No.11168032

Fuck you i don't want philo autists on /his/
fuck >&humanities

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>>11167105
intelligence, human biodiversity and climate analysis are all scientific subjects. in the non-anonymous world discussion of these fields is restricted by political considerations because lysenkoists and state censors have control over academia and what gets published. but if science means anything at all then it means the desire to seek truth and knowledge over institutional dogma. now with that out of the way, fuck niggers, fuck kikes, fuck roasties, and fuck jannies.

>> No.11168049

>>11167102
anon i really appreciate your points and really hope this board changes for the better like it sort of was in the past but something tells me it wont :( what a shame

>> No.11168053

>>11167102
>>11167105
I'm seeing a lotta "shoulds" and not a lot of actionable suggestions. What do we do about it?

>> No.11168055

>>11167102
>>11167105
You have your heart in the right place and I agree with you completely. I've tried to contribute with my "basic facts" threads, but I don't know if it helped.

I think part of the problem is that too many people here consider debate as something to be "won", instead of a discussion where all participants can walk away smarter.

>> No.11168072

>>11168055
>too many people here consider debate as something to be "won", instead of a discussion where all participants can walk away smarter
Too many people consider every communication a debate. /pol/ shitposts aren't intended as good faith arguments. They're advertisements. Try to remember that.

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>>11168072
oh like you're doing now?
huh? huh? huh?

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>>11168028
while i agree females shouldn't have rights he is right about R9k raids they ruined /fit/ last year so much that i stopped visting as all of it was bait, BLACKED, or not gonna make it threads was pretty depressing much like how /B/ raiding s4s the culture takes a hit and it takes awhile to recover however there is no way to fix this except more and better mods as deleting /pol/ or /r9k/ will just force em back into other boards feels fucking bad man

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>>11168079
/pol/ is funny in moderation the problem is some people get uppity about em and ALWAYS respond to the bait

>> No.11168133

>>11167102
>>11167105
you wrote so much text

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>>11167102
>but was sadly censored
Your off topic meta thread was deleted for being off topic.
You're not being censored, you're a shitposting brain damaged hapa. No one wants you around. Please fuck off.

>> No.11168139

>>11167102
>I'm NOT pleading for censorship
you literally are.
There are some objective truths that many of you refuse to acknowledged because they are "cringy, ignorant, racist".
People create bait threads about these topics because they know you base your world views off emotion rather than logic and will become angry.
>I'm NOT pleading for censorship
you literally are.

>> No.11168154

This thread was moved to >>>/qa/3037196