/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11136850
Home life is a better indication of how successful someone will be in school. having access to the same school doesn't change how people behave at home. There are no shortcuts to the expression of intelligence as it takes repetition and time.

>>11136858 continued
This is why we should not pair people in school based on age it should be entirely based on performance. however those that cry foul will cite psychology of needing to deal with your peers. While this is valid for social issues this is not going to be valid for academic achievement.

Why do you automatically see this as a race thing, anon? You have a sample size of 1 from two races. Hardly enough to draw a conclusion about race.

But seriously, the reason is that intelligence is high hereditary. Africans, as well as some other races, have not evolved very well in this sense. They really need to introduce eugenics if they want to catch up.

>>11136863
Technically op didn't mention race, anon

>>11136864
Saw this reply coming, but we all know what OP meant. Let's be honest.

>>11136863
I didn't say anything about race, racist-kun. I simply wanted to know why different children at the the same school might have drastically different abilities especially for something so simple as spelling.

>>11136862
>it should be entirely based on performance.
Segregation was outlawed.

>>11136865
I think his intent was baiting the race response judging by his reply
>>11136866


See >>11136858
>>11136862
For answer

>>11136865
>we all know
No we didn't. You made an assumption, because you're racist.

>>11136862
Didn't schools initially want to do something similar to that but then liberals started screeching about 'muh racism' because all the kids getting kept back were black so they ended up just pushing everyone through even if they can't even read or do basic algebra?

>>11136870
I never suggested segregation of race. Lumping kids together based on age is discriminatory towards those with higher intelligence and lower intelligence. As teachers are forced to address a mean average of the class that may not reflect the needs of the outliers.

>>11136866
cut the crap, you are obviously trying to make a race thread

>>11136866
>>11136873
see the IQ bell curve and how it is an accurate indicator of intelligence

>>11136874
well that's the problem of what you get when you base grouping of classes by age and then "hold people back" based on performance rather than grouping them by performance in the first place.
Universities today use entry exams to play students based on performance. I don't see anyone crying foul at those levels. simply stated group people by performance and never group them by age that way you never have to "hold someone back"

>>11136879
So ideally what you'd probably want is a mixed system where you have teachers teaching different subjects at the earliest age. using performance test for academic placement while having a shared classroom of age peers that will learn about non-academic social issues. but to be honest many students will probably see this class as a break or waste of time but it does allow for introductions between those are the same age to appease sociologists.

>>11136850
You forgot this one, who can't even begin to learn the alphabet even by the end of the year.

>>11136887
You can't necessarily have age peers for people who are far dumber than average. They might end up with a class or 2 or 3 people in a school and that obviously wouldn't work. It would be hard to divide classes not only into difficulty but into age as well.

>>11136894
I'm not sure if you misread what I said but these are going to be separate classes not a single class. So you droop people in the school based on their age for only one class while the rest of their classes will be based on academic performance. There wouldn't be low numbers like two or three people.

>>11136892
Compare the black girl 12:30 to the white girl at 14:20
I wonder what socioeconomic factors created this discrepancy?

>>11136904
You said there would be a shared classroom of age peers.

>>11136905
>socioeconomic factors
literally says in the documentary that the "white" girl has a disability you racist.

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>>11136875
>I never suggested segregation of race.
segregation by intelligence will effectively be segregation by race anon

>>11136920
Did I say race had anything to do with it?

>>11136920
>white kid can't spell
>disability
>black kid can't spell
>lol nigger

>>11136850
Whats the scientific reason my cousin who smoked pot throughout his school career is in Harvard while Im in some irrelevant university?

Easy genetics you delusional lunatic.

>>11136850
White kid has a bigger head

size matters

>>11136946
You literally said black and white. There's no reason to mention relevant data unless you're some kind of brainlet. So pick one: brainlet or racist.

>>11136850
>They both go to the same school so they receive the same education and have similar socio-economic factors.
You're just assuming that.

>>11136953
>white kid with disability can't spell
>disability
>black kid with blackness can't spell
>black
well, yes.

>>11136962
>humans all have the same level of intellectual ability despite being genetically seperated for over 60,000 years

Your the brainlet here mate.

>>11136942
That's not true at all those classes would still have mixed races because of retard anglos.

>>11136926
The only reasonable response to these posts/

>>11136972
And that's why this one kid can't spell. Brilliant anon.

>>11136980
>one kid
https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-12-05-80-of-grade-4s-cant-read-literacy-survey-reveals/

>>11136988
Doesn't seem like a good situation all around.
>Class sizes are increasing. In the Grade 4 study the average class size was 45‚ compared with 24 internationally; and

>Fewer young teachers are entering the system. Most pupils are taught by older teachers‚ but there is no relationship with reading literacy scores.

>"The groups most at risk are those in deep rural areas and townships‚ those learning in African languages‚ and boys‚” said Combrinck.

>>11136850
Black kid probably emulating from having grown up in an environment in which his native language was the primary source of any written text he possibly saw.

Pic related: African written language, it appears to have some resemblance to what he has written.

The white kid grew up around the English alphabet system so she has more exposure.

They are simply small children.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_systems_of_Africa

>>11137047
I don't know senpai. Looks like t, t, o, n, z, m, noose, z, g, F, c, E, z, L, L. They're all just fucked.

>>11136850
please post what you have achieved with your superior white genes anon, can't wait

>>11137047
>in which his native language was the primary source of any written text he possibly saw.
Thats a black brit you dumbfuck meaning a negro whos blood has been in Britain for a long tiem.

>>11137066
ok

>>11136962
>You literally said black and white.
What's wrong with using adjectives to help you more precisely identify which children I was talking about?
Are adjectives racist now?

>>11137088
you also called them girls, you're a sexist.

>>11137088
>help identify the only child at the timestamp
okay racist

>>11136850
My school was 100% white. Good times.

black caribbean kids in the UK have an average IQ of 96 according to one study by Lynn. but you racist pakis would never believe that.

>>11137217
>black caribbean kids in the UK have an average IQ of 96

Because they flew over half the world from Carribean islands into the UK? These are obviously the children of very elites of black caribbean population, and not representative of the average.

>>11137253
But it's a simple stroll over from Pakistan, right?

>>11137253
i'm specifically talking about black caribbean kids in the UK, which i explicitly stated...
again, i'm not talking about the group as a whole, only the sample in the UK. the BBC documentary is about children in the UK, so i thought it was relevant.
most of the groups you see in that table are not unbiased samples. indians don't have an average iq of 96 as a whole... and it wouldn't be significantly higher than pakistan and bangladesh.

>>11137182
mine too I'm just from eastern europe it rules

>>11137271
i'd rather be taught in a first world country with 5% non-whites than be taught in a shit-hole in eastern europe with 100% whites.

>>11137257
>But it's a simple stroll over from Pakistan, right?

Compared to flying over the Atlantic, yes.

>>11137276
Eastern Europe is fastest developing major global region after China. Was a total shithole during communism, but things are changing. China is not a shithole either in major cities. It is not the 90s anymore.

>>11137284
i was a little harsh, but i was talking about the opportunities you have as an eastern european. it's easier to 'make it' in western european countries or the US. easier to get into top institutions (because they're local) etc.

>>11136850
Going to the same state school is not having the same socio-economic factors

>>11136866
Do you really think you can fool people with your transparent /pol/bait?