/sci/ - Science & Math

And not just Google but every company and government is violating privacy.

But muh free market

If you don't like it don't use it

They are violating privacy so much that it's as if there is no such thing at all when there is supposed to be.

Are they even doing it in good faith? Lol.

>>11134360
They are trying to make it impossible not to. Have you ever seen somebody without a phone? Why don't you and everybody you know just stop using your phones for the rest of your entire life?

>>11134354
>consent to give gpa data
>NOOOOOO STOP SPYING ON ME
This is your brain on /xpol/

>>11134354
>Uhhh why are we letting google and the government track and stalk us illegally? Isn't that not allowed? Why are they doing it?
not science or math

>>11134368
Worst argument I've ever read. You can't be that stupid right.

>>11134368
You can easily make it illegal for them to store that data. It wouldn't even effect anything every single system could work well without google being able to access your data you would just have to be creative about it. But the government likes being able to spy on people so they don't care.

>>11134354
because you're too much of a pussy to do anything about it

and they know it

>>>/k/

>>11134354
Yeh, but they cant use it in court or anywhere meaningfull, since then it would be ILL EAGLE

>Isn't that not allowed?
Who is there to disallow it?

I'm reading Snowdens memoirs right now, it's a pretty grim analysis of the current situation.
He also lists his favourite animes..

>>11134545
>>11135028
No, it's not allowed. The Supreme court ruled that it's not allowed at all, whether in court or not. The NSA can't just spy on people.

>>11135546
Yeah, but who is there to disallow it?

>>11135546

>>11134354
>Government
Because of nanny state boomers

>Google
Because nobody is forcing you to use their products.

>B-but modern day life requires us to use Google.

Necessity is the mother of invention. If their is a demand for privacy then theirs an opportunity for other companies to get a slice of the market. An example of this is duckduckgo. DDG would not be nearly as popular if it was for Google's data collecting turning people off

>>11135546
>The NSA can't just spy on people
They do it for other countries at request though, and those other countries do it for them using the same technology.

donald trump is doing all kinds of stuff illegally and he's not arrested nor is he in cuffs.

>>11135642
Actually the big G and other big companies and their digital realm is getting closer infiltrating almost every aspect of day to day life
It's not a choice anymore, the middlemen between social interactions are monetizing them and shaping them fit for their purposes, humans are just being dragged along because on average we're gullible and too comfortable

But, how will they stop the pedofiles?
How will they stop pizza-gate?

If you did nothing wrong, then you have nothing to hide. Right? That's what they say.

And by nothing wrong, I mean nothing that offends their fragile christian morals or political beliefs.
They see gays, trans, jews and legal immigrants just as bad as pedophiles but they can't legally prosecute.
Instead they'll just collect date so they know who to punish when they gain enough power to alter the laws to their liking.


Honestly though, I'm deathly afraid of the day predictive algorithms and personality profilers become accurate enough that they can predict our thoughts and actions before we know them ourselves.
They can then use auto-text generating AI like talktotransformer to feed us the specific words that'll shape our thoughts to what ever they desire or need. Any illusions of free will will be erased once we're start being brainwashed and controlled through automated propaganda by AI.
Once this starts taking off and everyone does it'll be the death of the human soul.

They're already building the profiles on every human being for this. Facebook is already building the AI and have already experimented with controlling "users sentiment" by slightly altering wording of news articles. This future is closer than you think. We may even see the 1st prototypes of this put into the field during 2020 elections.

>>11135766

The NSA is about terrorism, and they aren't allowed to collect anybody's data.

>>11135718
Ok Commie

>>11134363
They violated the law, so instead of stopping they changed the laws to allow the NSA to continue to mass gather data on US and foreign civilians. If you have any social media you're in an NSA database. It's too late, we lost before we even realized there was a fight.

>>11135811
even commie states have rule of law

>>11135823
hahaha though, USA law doesn't matter.

>>11134354
Our government was supposed to be the people, with politicians representing us. So you think that is still the case?

>>11135768
Okay, they aren't allowed to...

>>11135541
>his favorite animes
Which ones?

>>11135541
*hentai

>>11135768
Cmon..

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/10/fbi-nsa-mass-surveillance-abuse/
>A Declassified Court Ruling Shows How The FBI Abused NSA Mass Surveillance Data
>In 2017, the FBI ran approximately 3.1 million searches related to U.S. persons

>>11136099
Yeah. A court passively not allowing it is a lot different than a marshal actively disallowing it.

>>11134354
-Because politicians are retarded and old

-Because people are retarded (they elect retarded politicians)

-Because people are retarded (they interact with google/fb/twitter)


The main problem, as always, is the people

>>11135642

This is untrue. Devices are recording everything they hear. And with so many devices a non Google user could be moniterd by Google effeciently just through others devices

the purge
the war inside your mind

>>11135768
>i believe in santa and the tooth fairy

>>11134354
There are liberty phones, but they have apps in C, and low ram to run JS.

Possible thing to be is that companies that track people and posses ultimate deep learning powers and recognition are probably way more efficient at gathering technologies or manufacturing in expensive factories.

I don't know why they need so much data for marketing, to suck every penny, there are better ways in almost any cooperation game, than waving with some paper or integer at server.

>>11136329
Imagine they can get abused by high frequency noise they won't ever hear, if they don't buy stuff.

>>11136329
- School is complex plan to make people addicted to ring... beep.

>>11134368
based

>>11134368
Access to your face expression while expressing an opinion is dangerous in today's ML's.

The US is an oligarchy. Corporate interests trump the needs of the people. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

Story time

>at work
>in way to lunch with coworkers
>"dude fuck this place, let's put large amounts of soil and sand into some ocean and claim the island"
>discuss legal implications
>check youtube later
>get video suggested of lawyer explaining if it's legal to raise your own island in the ocean

>gin and tonic at friend's house
>talk about special gin from Spain or something, don't remember
>hour later, ad pops up on friend's Facebook for that exact gin

>discuss Erdogan with colleagues
>later get "ad" on YouTube explaining how kurds violate Turkish borders and endanger citizens
>"how would you react if your neighbor started attacking you nonstop"

I had more.

>>11134354
what do you have to hide, freak? said the N-word too much?

>>11135718
Like what? Specifically.

>>11136770
I can't understand people who think that they have nothing to hide.

>>11136030
>Grave of the Fireflies, Revolutionary Girl Utena, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, The Vision of Escaflowne, Rurouni Kenshin, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Trigun, The Slayers, and my personal favourite, Ghost in the Shell.

>>11134354
Just stop using google products on the internet and they magically stop "track and stalk you illegally".

Nothing is free, and if it is, you're the product.

>>11134354
>why do people do ilegal things? dont they know that's ilegal
whoa! so this is the power of (You)

>>11136808
They're the kind of people who would argue against free speech because they have nothing to say.

>>11135541
Considering buying this. It's it worth it?

>>11134354
We thought 1984 was about places like china and the gommies. It's actually about us.

>>11138983
Halfway through and really enjoying it, I recommend it

DUDE
FEAR MONGERING IS EPIC
XDDD

>>11137397
what you got something to say or not?

>>11139050
Yes.

>>11136721
That is quite disturbing.

>>11139018
It's the whole world. China is instituting their social credit system, we've had mass surveillance since at least the 2000's. It's supposedly illegal but the NSA and CIA have demonstrated over and over that they don't care about laws. And they can simply hide behind shit being "classified". We let the systems run away from us, it's a monster our leaders created.

>>11135766
OFF TOPIC, you are not forced to read this;

>But, how will they stop the pedofiles?
>How will they stop pizza-gate?
They wont, high ranked politicians AKA. elite ruling class are those pedophiles and they are in full control of agencies like CIA, NSA, FBI and much more.

>>11134369
Political topics are science and mathematics via "Game Theory", socioeconomics, etc.