/sci/ - Science & Math

How dare you question her.

i want to dick her so much bros

>>11127080
>Did this sped end up doing more harm than good for her cause?
She made a bunch of /pol/cels shit their pants, but those people didn't believe in climate change in the first place so she had no impact on 4chan.
Everywhere outside of 4chan her reception was positive or neutral at worst.

>>11127080
She ended up changing nothing. If you agreed with her already, you continued agreeing with her, if you didn't, she wasn't convincing you. It's not about changing minds.

She was close to receiving a Nobel prize.
Something not even awarded to Einstein after relativity.
Fucking joke

>>11127108
dont hate the playa nigga LOL

>>11127108
He got one for the photoelectric effect though.

>>11127106
how do you know she didn't change anyone's mind?
>>11127108
she did win some environmental prize and $50000 and turned it down

>>11127080
Compared to other slightly retarded/autistic children exploited by insane or alcoholic parents for a tv stunt:
>"balloon boy" falcon heene
>"physics genius" jacob barnett and ten years later his "actually 33-year-old" adopted sister natalia grace barnett
>"clock boy" ahmed
I would say she actually seems relatively smart and likable. Pity about the evident developmental disorders desu

>>11127133
LOL NO THX I DONT NEED MONAY IM SAVIN TEH WURLD

>>11127133
lol fuck your prizes i'm picking berries

>>11127142
>"clock boy" ahmed
Holy mother of god I almost forgot about this kid

>>11127142

shes a puppet reading from a script and her parents are millionaires.

>>11127080
Raising questions like:

How can little kid read more on the internet than TV shits in my head can be absurdly dangerous.

Terraforming mars is problem we don't have to solve until we stop marsforming terra.

Maybe she's great.

>>11127080

Most likely little difference. The whole thing seems pretty unfair on her though. Children should not be used as political mouthpieces and I'm sure the whole experience will have fucked her up by later life. Plus the notion of inspiring children is just crass, we are meant to be discussing a serious threat not some inspirational Instagram trend.

>>11127142
>jacob barnett
How many times did the English language Wackypedia delete the article about him?

the elitist are self destructing the left with radicalism

>>11127142
>balloon boy
Fuck your sensationalist media disinformation

>>11127101
>her reception was positive or neutral at worst.
You couldn't be more wrong. Sweden has dealt with this topic for over a year, and they are sick of how much focus is placed on Greta rather than on their nation's problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZCCXZz5Esw

>>11127914
meanwhile the governor of fucking Kentucky is now a Democrat.

>>11128198
>posts literal who YouTuber
couldn't you have provided something actually substantial like an opinion poll?

>>11128234
>no one's opinion matters but mine
I could ask you the same question, YOU really are a "literally who", and you provide no context for your comment.
You've got to be really naive to think all of Sweden has only a "positive or neutral" view of Greta in light of their nation's condition.

>>11127080
All she did was bolster the deniers. Turns out a 16 year old autistic girl, who doesn't know what she's talking, tyrading about how evil you are doesn't persuade you of anything, and just makes you more certain in your beliefs out of spite. Human psychology's funny like that.

>>11127142
Balloon Boy was real though.

>>11128268
>All she did was bolster the deniers.
This was deniers believed she did because they ignore all the positives around her, this helps curb how uncomfortable she makes them feel.

>>11128268
>male actually does something that makes a real measurable difference regarding pollution
>media silence
>female just acts hysterical
>whole world pays attention
humans are incredibly gynocentric.

>>11128268
being spiteful towards someone makes them spiteful back.... huh.

>>11128268
boyan slat is a marketting genius who found a way to increase waste production while appearing to be doing some good.
Bloated CONSUUUUUUUMERS who purchase "carbon offsets" just love that kind of shit.

>>11128328
I mean, its better than producing waste for the purpose of trophy hunting... no way to avoid producing waste no matter what you do

>>11128268
It's always entertaining realizing there are literal 12 year olds that don't understand what activism is

>>11127095
Same here

What's a sped though

>>11128328
how is boyan slat increasing waste production

>>11127080
She became the face of climate change, instead of scientists, we have crying children preaching the end of the world. It's much harder to take seriously and tarnishes the cause. She's given fuel to the climate change deniers, her overly emotional hysteria gives them the ability to say that it's just fearmongering. We've furthermore become so obsessed with the problem we forget there are solutions- and those solutions do not involve crying and protesting infront of politicians and billionaires, nor by outright cutting all use of fossil fuels.

There are those who advocate climate change because they are legitimately worried about the climate, then there's those who "worry" because they have an alternate agenda which plays perfectly with climate change

>>11127080
https://spectator.us/greta-thunberg-genius-apostle/

>>11128657
>She became the face of climate change, instead of scientists
She tells people to listen to the scientists.

>>11128657
we've been ignoring scientists for 40 years why should we start listening now?
> and those solutions do not involve crying and protesting infront of politicians and billionaires, nor by outright cutting all use of fossil fuels.
social problems have social solutions, what are your solutions pray tell?

>>11127133
her parents are part of the neo-aristocrat class of society. turning down 50,000 means nothing to her, but she gets authenticity out of it somehow. you can simply look at the fact that Greta was given a new Tesla my Arnold Schwarzenegger, the manufacture of which is terrible for the environment, and accepted it. that 50,000 meanwhile could have been put towards negative carbon emissions.

And no, that's not an anti-EV argument, if someone is going to buy a car they're probably better than buying an ICE equivalent for the majority of people's driving habits. It's just a fact that manufacturing an EV emits tons of carbon.

>>11128302
>male actually does something that makes a real measurable difference regarding pollution
>media silence
https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/9/18175940/ocean-cleanup-breaks-plastic-pollution-silicon-valley-boyan-slat-wilson

>>11128302
He has gotten tons of coverage though

>>11127080
but she discovered global warming! how is that doing harm?
... wait, what cause? global communism?

>>11129802

Global communism?

>>11127124
imagine how rich her parents are

>>11128640
He hasn't actually reduced the waste created by humans, just moved it, and the equipment and fuels used to collect garbage were manufactured by creating waste, and will eventually become waste themselves.

So in the long run what he is doing is positive waste production, not negative. It's basic thermodynamics.

>>11127101
Wrong, I know a lot of normies and this obvious crass attempt at astroturfing and using an aspie kid to push an agenda disgruntled many of them, especially boomers.

You can easily manipulate people but when you take them for biggest idiots than they truly are it will backfire.

>>11129907
Waste isn't a problem if it's managed well u absolute retard-dumping it in the ocean is a disaster, processing it or isolating it until it breaks down into a form the natural world can handle is a huge improvement to the situation. We're creating bacteria that can eat plastics and turn them into organic material you could use as fertilizer. doomers are the most ignorant psuedo-malthusian cunts of all time and want us all to start living like the Amish to appease their anxiety about the modern world. fuck you faggot.

>>11129964
>psuedo-malthusian cunts
he'll be right sooner rather than later because of psychotic shit stains like yourself

>>11129964
>market worshipper gets triggered by mention of thermodynamics
>spews all kinds of pseudo bullshit ideas that will never be economical to rationalize consumerism
>calls people faggots
>leaves

typical

>>11127101
Cringe and blue piled

>>11129907
>So in the long run what he is doing is positive waste production, not negative.
Not to mention the use of non-renewable resources to accomplish this

She's done literally nothing for her cause, either good or bad. Everybody that can change anything to the problem knows the problem and what to do, they're just not willing to do it.
She's just a child media loved to talk about because it makes retards seeth which generate controversy which is what media thrive for now.

I'm sad for her though because she's basically retarded and everyone around her make her feel like she's special. Now way she can develop a normal personality now.

>>11127142
>"balloon boy" falcon heene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWhUvm8SunY

>>11127106
>It's not about changing minds.
Correct. It was always about getting people in power to take action.

>>11130105
Which they won't because they don't care. It's about 1month glory.

>>11130110
>because they don't care
That was the problem that caused her to start the strike in the first place. I think it's worked in some sense. With the all the global attention and support she's gotting, they now have to care. At least now more than before.
Like you say, I don't know if it will last.

>>11127128
which is way better

>>11127106
I literally became a climate change denier just to spite her.

>>11127142
Remember Maxwell Loughan? That's a good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otjvUz7qKXc

>>11128328
>>11129907
To address waste production, you would need something on an governmental and international level. What he's doing is just addressing the plastic floating in the ocean. The entire point is to remove plastic from the ocean, not eliminate it entirely.

Also act a bit more mature. You owe that to yourself.

>So in the long run what he is doing is positive waste production, not negative. It's basic thermodynamics.
Everyone does that. Simply breathing creates waste. But that's not the point of this project or cleaning up the ocean. Don't make yourself look stupid.

>>11130019
>gets pissy about ad hominem
>proceeds to ad hominem and strawman
kek

Anyhow the plastic eating bacteria does hold some weight. How economical it actually is? Too lazy to do research.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6132502/

>>11127244
wow people read scripts when they give speeches now?
Damn what has the world come to

>>11128302
>>11128268
Pretty sure she is trying to draw attention to people like him

>>11130794
Back in day they was forced to memorize it, good old times.

Let's see the positive aspects: They can read.

>>11130118
Honestly it's all going to be decided in 2020, if America votes out the corrupt GoP and replaces them with a progressive with a spine who will actually take action, the world will follow. If the party of corporate shills win again, then the US will continue to deny science and do nothing about emissions. it'll be interesting to see what happens.

>>11127080
Nah, she's cool. Even if you don't believe her authenticity, it's eye-opening to see people four times her age form a conga line to bully a kid for saying the climate equivalent of "sky is blue".

I mean yeah, we've offloaded all our decision making to corporate entities that only care about maximizing profit, and then go and act surprised when they shit on the environment because it maximizes profit. Saying this should get you a "well no shit you're right", not an industrial grade smear campaign. Her biggest contribution to the cause is drawing all these "I'm so triggered by a 16 year old that I'll grasp at every straw to prove her wrong" retards out of the woodwork and into the public eye.

If she's genuine, good for her. If she's a sock puppet, also good for her. She did her job either way.

>>11130938
Dummy.

>>11130981
>If she's a sock puppet, also good for her.
What about no?

>>11130019
Go jizz on a copy of the population bomb and farm your arugala, hippie

>>11128268
Greta is fine herself, she's just a kid with an interest.

The only thing that annoys me about this whole thing is the media propping her up

>>11128265
They didn't make a claim about Sweeden's general opinion, they asked you to substantiate your claim with statistics you fucking invalid.