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I don't.

butts

I think, therefore I am.

I just posted.

>>1111156
but what if your thoughts are the reenactment of someone elses life.

ITT: Samefag

>>1111160
you could be a supercomputer lying in a room somewhere running off of solar energy

>>1111163
but how can it be samefagging if none of us exist (OP)

>>1111145

This is the flag of Esperanto, la lingvo internacia (the internaideally, every tional language). It is so called because ideally, everyone in the world would learn it to facilitate international communication. It was designed by Dr. L. L. Zamenhoff and published in 1887 with the goal of being as easy to learn as possible. It does this by utilizing many predictable patterns, reducing the amount of knowledge needed for communication.

I am so sure that I exist that I can bore you with unrelated topics.

>>1111161
They are not, therefore I am.

>>1111145
Oh hey, someone that understood what I said in that thread a while ago.

>>1111168
That doesn't mean he doesn't exist. It just means he could be a supercomputer somewhere running off of solar energy.

>>1111175
>(the internaideally, every tional language)

What the fuck happened there? I meant to say, (the international language)

>>1111184
ill rephrase. prove to me that you are a living carbon-based organism that is selfaware

>>1111193
Sure, let me just jot my address down for you, you can come and check me out yourself.

>>1111185
Quit using Opera.

>>1111193

we cannot, and neither can you.
welcome to philosophy.

>>1111145
It says in there that I have been created by god in his image.
So there.

I exist because I have been created by god, it says so right there in the bible, and I want you to disprove that there is no god.

CHECKMATE OP!

>>1111168
but I would still exist, there wasnt a specification that I had to be conscious or sentient

>>1111207
Oh great, Darryl got confused and thinks he's human again.

>>1111204
Nice fairy tale written by a bunch of guys on drugs.

>>1111145

I think and therefore I am.

i am therefore i think

I stink, therefore I am(and you know it).

>>1111219
Not so much fairy tale. More like fictional, mild, action adventure with philosophy. And it wasn't written by drugged out guys.

But the key word is fiction.

Cogito ergo sum

I>>1111220

DeCartes.

fucking hivemind

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06608b.htm

>>1111229
>>1111225
>>1111224
>>1111220
philosophical precedent is not allowed. any human could make something up on the spot.

If this is a problem dealing with existentialism, explain how we are able to communicate with others of our kind? and the butterfly effect.

MAYBE, we are all part of one consolidated being.

>>1111226
Well, in actuality, rye bread was a staple then, and preservatives were not made yet. Fermented rye seeds produce a psychotropic chemical, ergo those guys were fucked up!

You're obviously asking for absolute proof, which I'm pretty sure doesn't exist.

goodbye

>>1111207
I concur. Existing doesn't (or shouldn't) mean you know you exist

>>1111229

>DeCartes

The fuck is he?

>hivemind

It's simple. Doubting your existence can't be possible you don't exist.

>>1111238
Hey Mr. Dawkins

>>1111235

Can you repost in layman's terms. I don't understand how something inexistent can do anything at all.

>>1111249
RENE DECARTES.

FUCKING LEARN SOMETHING!

>>1111145
i googled myself, results came up. I EXIST.

>>1111260

What the fuck has he to do with my post?!

>>1111240
OH GOD OP

THIS GUY JUST CONVINCED HIMSELF OUT OF EXISTENCE

YOU'VE MURDERED HIM

>>1111255
WHASSSSSSUUUUUUP!

I don't know why people actually trust the bible. I could write a book about bacon flying out of my ass, creating the Earth, say God wrote it (sure) and people would think I'm crazy!

Existentialism is the manifest of our self-consciousness and ability to interact with others of our kind to a high extent; though in actuality, we're just a fucking spec of cosmic dust when viewed from a universal prespective

>>1111270

Yeah; though you book doesn't have a Church that was conceived before it was even completed and is still quite alive today. The Bible is merely a reference book. The Church would still exist without it.

>>1111270
I guess, it gives people hope for their worthless
and pathetic lives... I don't think bacon does that.

>>1111284
That's like saying schools or any academic institution would exist without books.

>>1111291

>schools or any academic institution would exist without books.

DUH!!!!!!

There is a thinking therefor something is.

I know I exist it you guys that are a part of my imagination

>>1111291

That's fact, period and mind you I believe the first teachers/mentors did use books to teach their disciples.

>>1111309
oral tradition has been obsolete for so long now! It's tedious and ineffective. Self-sufficiency is taking over!

>>1111309
then who wrote books, and how were things taught back then?

I'll give you a hint: BY ORAL TRADITION!

Proven to be the most effective method of transcending information throughout generations of increasingly dumber progeny

I EXIST BECAUSE MY MOM TOLD ME SO.

FUCK OFF NIGGERS.

I am, therefore I think.

Cognito ergo sum. I exist, I can prove to myself that i exist.
But im not so sure about you.

OP just got done attending your first philosophy 101 class?

>>1111324
Socrates was all, "sheeeeeet nigga, these books is gonna fuck up yo mind. Fo sho."
Man didn't like books.

>>1111163

>>1111807

Are you freaking serious?

>>1111145
I fap, therefore I am.

feels bad man, therefore i exist

I exist because I cannot exist.

Postito ergo sum.

>>1111111

ergo i could tell him to tell you...
there... close your eyes.. and say.. "oh God of trolls,.. do I exist?" he will grin.. and say.. existentialism is not your thing.-

I make an impact on all that I, and others, perceive as real.

>>11111111

cogito, etc.

>>1111161
You know, I've been thinking of this for some time now.

What if all we know is just a fictional story in some parallel universe? What if every fictional story we imagined has it's own parallel universe? What if existence itself is just a never ending chain of fictional stories, and we're all just characters?

>>1117372
then nothing, everything is the same thing it's always been

I could be a computer simulation of a person, and I would *think* that I exist in the real work but maybe I don't. Maybe all my experiences are simulations too. Maybe everyone I meet is just part of this program.

There is no way to prove it any which way, so you could claim that being agnostic is the best way to go. I think assuming it doesn't exist because it can't be known is the best way to go.

I think, therefore I am.

So I know I must exist, but you don't. Maybe you're just imagining me.

What is real, Neo?

Cogito ergo sum is invalid. The real way to prove one exists is to claim the following:

1. Thought is occurring.
2. Things that occur exist.
3. Thought exists. (1, 2)
4. Different types of thought are occurring.
5. Separation of different types of thought requires occurrences of separation.
6. Separators of thought exist. (2, 4, 5)
7. Separations of thought occur only between distinctly observable physical things, which may or may not exist.
8. Separators of thought are distinctions between observable physical things. (Occam's Razor)
9. Distinctions between observable physical things exist. (2, 7, 8)
10. Thoughts occur of my physical body being a separate thought than other physical things.
11. My physical body is an occurrence of a distinction between observable physical things. (9, 10)
12. My body exists. (11)
13. My body exists, therefore I exist. (12)

>>1111145
These threads are fucking stupid as hell.

>>1111111

>>1117520

I... I can't disagree...

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

ITT: Philosophyfags don't know bout my solipsism.

We can't prove you exist, and you can't prove I exist. Unless you cross-reference my TCP ports and verify that 8080 is open.

Cogito ergo sum is applied to a first person perspective, you can prove you exist, but you can't prove the existence of others. Fuck off, troll.

You don't exist. You're a fabrication of my mind.

>>1117520

14. OP IS A FAGGOT

1 you exist to me
2 you can only exist to me if I exist
3 I exist

>>1117520

Not if you believe in dualism and separation of body and mind. Ohohoho, tricky tricky.

>>1111111

This is not a question of possabilities its a question of symantics. The facts of reality are consistent and known all that is left is arguing about the words that defines these facts and it is a pointless effort.

If I don't exist then I don't have to answer the question of whether or not I exist.

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>>1111193
>>1111145
this is when shit just got retard stupid.

The Game.

While there might be ways to prove one's existence, I don't think it's feasible to do so over the internet; on an anonymous image board.
There are certain assumptions one may take in order to make an argument for their existence - that they are alive, thinking, and human; typically.
The problem of solipsism opposes only one of these assumptions; that one can think. The other assumptions are more easily verifiable.
If we are to assume "philosophical zombies", or unthinking humans, don't exist, then it's only possible to prove one's existence if, conversely, you can prove one is a philosophical zombie.

>>1117770
>your

>>1111145
If I can show proof that I exist, i must exist, for it would be impossible to do so and not exist.
If I cannot show proof that I exist, I must not exist, for if I existed, I could prove that I existed.
Therefore, I either can or cannot prove that i can exist, hence I could prove that I exist.
Thus I exist.

There are pictures of me having sex

Rule 34

QED

>>1117810
There are guro pictures of you
Rule 34
You no longer exist.

>>1117810
>If it exists, there is porn of it.