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>netherlands
>has the tallest people in the world for partly unknown reasons
>prescribes the least antibiotics for babies in europe
>antibiotic treatment as a baby correlates with lower growth
how come nobody has presented this connection before? I searched for it and absolutely no results came up mentioning antibiotics and growth in Netherlands.

>> No.11107852

>>11107841
>how come nobody has presented this connection before?
you just did, baby!

>> No.11107853

>>11107841
its cuz we eat much cheese and drink much milk

>> No.11107855

>>11107852
yeah, a random dude on 4chan with no education on the matter.

>> No.11107856

>>11107841
wtf

>> No.11107861

>>11107856
what did you not understand?

>> No.11107863

>>11107841
Maybe it's because scandinavians and some balkan populations are as tall as them. You should look into how they deal with antibiotics first.

>> No.11107870

>>11107841
This was already true before antibiotics were even discovered

>> No.11107872
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>>11107841
who even wants to be tall and why

just to please some roastie?

>> No.11107890

>>11107863
We aren't scandinavian or balkan though. We're Germanic people related to the English and Germans.

>>11107870
Not true Dutch people used to be among the shortest Europeans in the 1500s

>>11107853
This was one of the leading hypothesis until we found out other European societies had higher milk and cheese consumption and were still shorter.

>>11107841
The current leading hypothesis is that there is a massive sexual selection on height in the Netherlands which caused the average height to skyrocket between 1500s and now. You still see this at Dutch social conventions. At parties you have 2 obvious groups of people. Tall people all standing and sitting together and short people standing and sitting together.

Dutch men don't date short women and Tall women don't date short men so there is a constant push where the tallest people had the most children and to this day that's still true.

It's also one of the reasons why /pol/ doesn't apply to the Netherlands. You can't scare people with "black BBC is going to conquer you" because no Dutch girl would possibly date black manlets with shorter dicks than Dutch guys (Dutch men have an average measured penis size of 6'3 which is the highest measured penis size ever and bigger results were not measured but self-reported instead).

But the Netherlands is kinda weird compared to other EU countries. In other countries you see short women with tall men a lot but in the Netherlands this is extremely rare as short women are seen as undesirable as well. I think this is what truly pushed the average height up. Dutch men don't date down and also only want to date strong tall women. I know for me personally short women are also unattractive and my girlfriend is 6'1 while I'm 6'4

>> No.11107910

>>11107890
>Dutch men don't date short women and Tall women don't date short men so there is a constant push where the tallest people had the most children and to this day that's still true.
My gf is short while I'm tall, and my dad is short whereas mom is quite tall.

>> No.11107925

>>11107853
>>11107890
Height is most scientifically correlating with protein intakes.

So, PS: The response on dairy has something going, but truthfully, amounts much greater than even those figurative diets are beneficial. .. Thusly, it's obviously possible having greater specific-food consumption if surpassed in other aspects of "full nutrition".

>> No.11107973

>>11107841
Correlation =/= causation
That said antibiotics maybe fucks up the flora of kids and gives them shits like IBS or inflammatory diseases stunting digestion and so growth.

>> No.11107997

>>11107841
Correlation does not equal causation.

>> No.11108479

Why does the sidewalk being wet make it rain?

>> No.11108500

>>11107890
Because based on birth record studies tall men had more children than shorter men, and gradually they became giants. basically height offered some sort of advantage that allowed tall men to raise ore children than short men. the same process works for intelligence hence the concern that this selection gradient has reversed

>> No.11109220

>>11107841
Interesting hypothesis considering that antibiotics could really fuck with the development of a healthy gut microbiome thus reducing the amount of available energy sources provided by our bacteria frens. Most definitely not a large factor though. I'd guess it's 99% genetics and diet.

>> No.11109868

Good quality nutrition. Too bad our shit gov wants to ruin even that by mass bankrupting farmers for climatechange lobby.

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>>11107890
>tfw no tall dutch gf

>> No.11109893

>>11107890
Wtf are you talking about heugt has nothing to do with dick size you fucking brainlet.
Also go to amsterdam lots of blacks fucking your dutch princesses

>> No.11109897

>>11107890
The leading hypothesis is that only nordholland is tall and its due to them givibg their children long sessions of uninterrupted sleep during childhood. Stop talking shit you fucking dutch subhuman.

>> No.11109929

>>11107841
The Netherlands is below sea level so when the dikes got breached only tall people survived

>> No.11109931

>>11109897
Well I'm from noord-holland so...
>>11109893
Maybe it's just coincidence that we also have the biggest dicks in the world then. I don't know. I never implied it was correlated to height. It's just that immigrants are notorious for having small dicks compared to Dutch guys.
>Also go to amsterdam lots of blacks fucking your dutch princesses
Lived my entire live in Amsterdam. This isn't the case at all. In fact it's so rare that you see people act shocked when seeing a dutch girl and a foreigner in a relationship. Similar for a Dutch guy with a foreigner though. It just is extremely rare. Which is logical the immigrants are shorter, poorer and have smaller penises than us. They are clearly seen as inferior by dutch women.

There are some downsides to this mindset though. Dutch guys that date foreign women are usually bullied for being a loser that can't get laid with pristine dutch girls. Here in Amsterdam in particular it's usually British girls. If you have a British girlfriend then you are seen as weak and pathetic and get banter thrown at you all the time. Kinda like how 4chan calls white guys with asian girlfriend "incels" similar banter exists between dutch guys if they date non-dutch girls or short girls.

Thank you for trying to educate me about my own city though. I hope you realize the rent in Amsterdam is so high that immigrants can't afford to live there and instead have to commute with public transport to their work in the city and go out of the city after work.

>> No.11109953

>>11109868
oh you prefer becoming infertile due to pesticides? There is no optimal way of living anymore in this society, we are just too many people.

>> No.11109963
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>>11109931
why the fuck would you actually believe the dutch have the biggest dicks when it's still obv blood penis.

Also look at pic related and take a peek at the south.

>> No.11109967

>>11109963
>self-reported

>> No.11110002

>>11109967
But this is exactly where your data came from.
Theres not a single piece of data proving that the dutch have the biggest average, you just pulled that fact out of your biased ass.

>> No.11110113

>>11107890
>We aren't scandinavian or balkan though. We're Germanic people related to the English and Germans.
What does this have to do with your retarded hypothesis? Also Scandinavians are also a Germanic people related to the English and Germans.

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>>11107841
>antibiotic treatment as a baby correlates with lower growth

That's strange - in farm animals anitbiotics are used liberally and a positive correlation between growth and antibiotics is well established. One of the theories is that antibiotics in the food means the animal has to expend less energy in fighting infections and can therefore promote more towards growing.

Why should it be different in humans?

>> No.11110326

>>11110294
The animals on those farms are raised in an unhygenic environment. If you raised a human being in that way, child services would come and take him.

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>>11107841
also, why is iran the fastest growing (length wise)?

>> No.11110384

>>11110294
>>11110326
Most of those animals also get growth hormones

>> No.11110444

kindergartens in the netherlands give all kids free milk every single day

>> No.11110445

>>11109931
>There are some downsides to this mindset though. Dutch guys that date foreign women are usually bullied for being a loser that can't get laid with pristine dutch girls.
hahahah this is nonsense, don't listen to this /pol/ack.

t. Dutch guy