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I legit can't visualize or understand how certain things interact in given problems with eachother vs if someone was to give me an integral or even a stats probability problem or something I can do that no problem, isn't it supposed to that if you are good at math you should be good at physics?

>> No.11080604

>>11080596
is that a boy or girl

>> No.11080612

>>11080604
grill

>> No.11080643

>>11080596
First year fag here, and I'm on the same boat as you. My mechanics teacher started with special relativity and teaches classical mechanics as an approximation of SR. I felt like an imposturous tard all of SR, specially since I was pretty good in high school CM. Meanwhile my proof-based calc class is fun and very doable. It might be that we're just awful at spatial reasoning. My worst part of SR was setting up the problem according to the frame of reference. Lorentz transformations and everything else was relatively easy. Mind you I applied intending to major in physics. I guess I'll see how that turns out.

>> No.11080674

>>11080643
I passed CM but am worried about E&M and waves and optics

>> No.11080755

>>11080596
Because you don’t even know how to crop a screenshot, fucktard

>> No.11080762

>>11080643
>teaching classical mechanics as an approximation of SR
>to a bunch of first years
goddamn your professor is a retard

>> No.11080766

>>11080596
I'm good at arithmetic(in my head) and great at physics. Any math higher than algebra and I'm a fuckin brainlet.

>> No.11080771

>>11080596
abstract vs visual reasoning. you're probably just not a very visual person. just stick with pure math.

>> No.11080777

>>11080762
Really? I honestly thought his reasoning made sense (he doesn't want to teach us things he knows to be wrong).

>> No.11080787

>>11080777
but special relativity is also "wrong" (if your professor called classical mech wrong, he really is a dumbass)
learning in this way will not give you a better understanding. you learn the easy things first, and then the hard things.

>> No.11081680

>>11080596
yeah im the same way.

most people here are like if ur "good" (relatively of course) at maths, then ur supposed to be good at physics as well.

perhaps our physical intuition is just simply weak

>>11080643
despite being better at maths than physics

like urself, im also planning to major in physics.

i just the ideas and concepts in physics to be more interesting. i still like maths, but funnily enough the maths in physics interests me than the maths in maths.

>> No.11081683

>>11080596
because physishits are bad at math and structure it to be incredibly retarded and as non rigorous as possible.
they'd rather have silly drawings that accurate and abstract models.

>> No.11081691

Physic's isn't just math, that's why. It requires visual thought, while math doesn't - you could try, but you probably won't be tested on it unless the exam is something to do with geometry.

I wouldn't worry about it anon. I knew a guy who was great at math, graduated with an almost perfect GPA, but was terrible at Statistics for some reason.

>> No.11081692

>>11081683
cope

>> No.11081698

>>11081692
I'll let you have your cope, guy. I know it's embarrassing enough to just be a physishit, so I won't be hard on you.

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>>11081698
yeah say that to field medalists like martin hairer and edward witten with backgrounds in physics. some physical theories gave rise to maths, one of which being erdogic theory (which stem from statistical physics), which im sure youre numb skull smooth brain never heard of, moron.

u probs also wont make it out to becoming a mathematician. i also hardly doubt you took higher math courses too.

>> No.11081846

>>11081691
You see I find that bizarre, I barely studied for my applied stats test and somehow score an A- idk how maybe because I was already familiar with set theory and inclusion/exclusion and combinatorics from discrete math and relied on it heavily but honestly it felt like totally cheated the system by just dicking around and somehow getting an A- that or its a super easy class.

>> No.11082491

>>11080596
Physics is small fraction of math. If you can't understand physics you automatically doesn't understand underlying math.

>> No.11082573

>>11080604
>is that a boy or girl
girl, she's from touhou

>> No.11083028

>>11080596
Physics is all memorization. Math is all understanding.

>> No.11083111

If you have strong background on math and weak in physics that is natural.

I think in physics the hardest part is actually finding out what are you calculating and how. Rest is just usually math which works out easily.

Also you can be best mathematician in the world without any understanding of physics, but not vice-versa.

>> No.11083171

>>11080596
Depends on the type of math you like. I’ve always found physics to be really fun as a math major. I feel like if you haven’t had proof classes then you might mistake your ability to do math with calculation, but I’ve found that if you’re comfortable with analysis, physics is great

>> No.11083173

>>11083028
This isn’t exactly true. Math is all about understanding but everything past first year physics is little memorization.

>> No.11083175

>>11083111
Not exactly true either, physicists are on the sliding scale of understanding / applying mathematics. I’d say it’s just a difference in priorities - my perspective is different since I spend a lot of time in the mathematical physics department

>> No.11083258

Mathematics is theory. Physics is math applied.

>> No.11083266

>>11083173
No it's not. There's no such thing as "understanding the universe." Its still all memorizatio.

>> No.11083579

>>11083266
I never said “”understanding the universe.” Understanding the phenomenon through formality and modeling, and of course through experiment. I feel like you’re that anon who reduces almost everything down to memorization

>> No.11083672

>>11080596
Because you need to link the math to physical phenomena. It's very counter intuitive if you have only been doing maths with abstract x, y and z.