/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11066940
Yes.

>>11066940
No, but children are sponges and will adopt whatever behavior you force on them.
Encourage them to feel mentally ill and they sure will be.

>>11066940
Nope

>>11066940
no

Yes. Force them to undergo hormone therapy. Worked wonders for my little son i mean daugher.

>>11066950
>>11066955
>>11066958
All these fools underestimating the deductive powers of children.

>>11066964
What deductive powers do you see in >>11066950?

Inject propaganda into their minds so you can parade them around for attention and Instagram likes

>>11066972
None whatsoever. OP asked a simple question and that poster failed to answer it.

>>11066940
>Is it scientifically possible for little children to determine that they have gender dysphoria?

No.

>>11066982
XD easy man easy

>>11066950
>children are sponges and will adopt whatever behavior
This.

Is it scientifically possible for me to determine that OP is a faggot?

>>11066940
Are children able to have consensual sex with other people?

>>11067211
Are adults?

>>11067217
what does that matter in his question?

>>11067217
>>11067219
im sorry i misread your post

>>11067211
If both parties consent to a transaction its not my business to interfere.

>>11067211
>Are children able to have consensual

Children can not consent.

>>11067326
Then why do people ask children if they want to eat or sleep or drink water? Or even play?

>>11067333
children are their parents’ property
people will claim that their children do or do not have agency as long as it benefits them

>>11066940
No, it is child abuse. As is the constant fear mongering about Global Climate Change being pushed upon children. They actually believe that they are all going to be boiled alive. That is not a healthy way for a child to grow up, especially when it is an outright lie. As for the trannie thing, already we are seeing children who have transitioned regretting their decision and trying to reverse the process. Anyone who advocates for transition or, for that matter, pushes fake science on children about the apocalypse needs to jailed or placed in a mental institution, before they can continue to do more harm. >End rant.

So, are any heads going to roll over this? Or will it just be swept under the carpet and the medical establishment will all make embarrassed noises and mutter something about learning from the lessons of the past, like they did with thalidomide or lobotomy.

>>11066940
Is gender dysphasia even real? How did our ancestors deal with it? They didn’t even have clothes at one point. They probably didn’t even separate the role of a male and female. They couldn’t have just died off either because the symptoms still exist today. What does that mean? How is this happening? Is this just a societal aspect of the human population? Do animals experience gender dysphoria?

A million dollars the kid has no dad

"gender" is an idiotic concept.

>>11066940
Maybe. I remember a kid in elementary school prancing around in cowboy boots and saying he was a cowgirl. He was such a flamer.

>>11067918
nope. they're going to double down on it

>>11068005
So, hypothetically, I invent a pill tomorrow that treats gender dysphoria like prozac treats depression (yeah, I know, I know, this is a thought experiment).
They take the pills for a few weeks, the dysphoria goes away, hey guess I was a guy all along, slowly wean off the pills, go live a normal life, get married, kids, the end.
What happens to all this shit? Will people be prosecuted for medical malpractice? Where does the ideology go?

>>11067333
>Then why do people ask children if they want to eat or sleep or drink water? Or even play?

Theses things are things even you pets have.
Consenting to sexual activity is very different from asking if little Suzy wants chocolate or vanilla ice cream

>>11068067
cant treat a made-up disease

>>11068067
>I invent a pill tomorrow that treats gender dysphoria like prozac treats depression

If Republican then you are sexual bigot
If Democrat then you will be ignored since gender selection is a choice and your pills wil be banned.

>>11068079
Not really

>>11068810
>Not really
>t. not allowed within 1000 feet of an elementary school.

>>11068067
>I invent a pill tomorrow that treats gender dysphoria like prozac treats depression
So it treats it by increasing suicidal thoughts?

>>11067326
free will is a lie
nobody can consent

Its all about power. This nonsense is entirely political in nature. Its point is just to demosnstrate to you and the world that you are helpless to prevent this form happening.

That's all. Its really that simple.

This sort of power play has been part of human society for centuries and frequently manifests from any situation where one group desires to impose its dominance over another in an overt and public manner. The more absurd the manifestation the better, because that amply demonstrates the contempt and invulnerability of the those welding the power.

>>11068863
Computers may not have free will, but they for sure can go over expectation.

>>11068885
Let me guess, it's the juice.

yet another thread that could have been about interesting science but instead is just filled with right wing propaganda
sad

>>11068900

No, it doesn't have to be any booegy man, or mysterious group of conspirators. Its just real politic. Its just the nature of humans. Whether its English Kings imposing control over defeated Scottish peasants. Or the Catholic church imposing control over pagans. Or a political faction exercising dominance within a nation. Or an ideology at work within a society. Its all the same. Acquisition of power. Demonstration of power. That's all.

>>11068911
I shouldn't have expected your insanity to have consistent internal logic.

>>11066940
>>11066948 no, you freak

>>11068956
have you read any of the science?

>>11068956
>no, you freak
How about this?
Is it scientifically possible for little children to determine that they have a broken leg?

>>11068969
have you considered that nobody posting in this thread is actually interested in discussing this in good faith and the thread was only created because this topic has been identified as a political wedge issues
that keeping it bumped so it stays in the catolog as long as possible is ll that matters and your own participation has made you into a political pawn

>>11068952

Are you mentally disabled? Where is there any inconsistency? Its how human society works. Or are you one of these who gets irrationally upset when the nature of human society is spelled out in a way at odds with your last down loaded version of group think?

>>11068952

Munchausen mother spotted.

>>11068981
>into a political pawn
youre delusional, im pretty sure only me and like 6 other dudes post on this board

>>11066940
the answer is you cannot tell that young
and its horrible
maybe inhuman things are happening to us because we never cared about the inhumane things happening to shitskins. I always thought it was just their faults.
why_god.jpg
still do actually `\("/)/`

>>11068067
That literally already exists now in the form of hormonal therapy. You don't understand Trans at all - I bet you thought all trans people get sexual re assignment surgery and not just the one's whom a simple chemical cocktail cannot fix.

>>11066940
No.

>>11067907
>Climate change
Big fucking deal, it is real but it's so fucking minor compared to every fucking generation ever being forced to fight in wars or being scared shitless of being nuked during coldwar, climate change is comfy. I can't wait until America turns into a desert.

>>11069065
>6 other people
Kek. I always wonder how many people post on this board, I feel like I'm talking to the same people all the time.

kill all chinks
kill all arabs
kill all niggers
kill all trannies
kill all femenists

world peace, forever

>>11069338
He's saying it would work the opposite of hormone therapy no? People would become happy in their assigned gender and natural body

It's interesting that conservatives are all genetic determinists when it comes to IQ and criminality, but go all tabula rasa when it comes to gender and sexuality.

>>11069887
Pretty sure they are genetic determinists with gender too. XY chromosomes and all that malarkey.

>>11067907
Hey.
You do realize that children have always been under constant fear mongering, right?
At least global warming is real. It's good that children are growing up scared for the future of the environment.
In the past, kids would be scared of non-existant boogeymen, and monsters under their beds, and clowns.
This is an incredibly proper fear for children to have, one that hopefully effects every single action and decision they take.

>>11067919
Our ancestors pretty much dealt with it the same way people are now, minus all the medical and technological possibilities.

They bitched and moaned. Begged to god to turn them female, cursed god for being born male, engaged in female activities and gender roles, etc.

And some even engaged in the "medical" or "technological" practices that closely resemble what trannies do today, such as drinking horse urine (which is where we source our estrogen) or cutting off their genitalia.

>>11066940
I'm a transsexual (FtM) and I remember having gender dysphoria since I was 4. I always knew there was something wrong with me and never discussed it with my parents until I was 18. I was afraid that if I informed them while they still had power over me, they would force me to do things that I hated doing. Obviously I didn't know what "transsexual" meant back when I was 4, but dysphoria followed me throughout my childhood and puberty. I now have transitioned and I'm mentally and physically healthy.

>>11068810
Ok pedo

>>11066940
>gender dysphoria
I always wondered what would happen if you had a male baby and would treat it like a girl all his life, like giving him a girl name, dressing him like a girl, giving him only dolls to play and telling him what a nice girl he is etc.

If he still tried to do boyish stuff all the time pre puberty you could probably say gender dysphoria is a thing.
But I doubt that would happen, I think it's mostly your parents that decide what kind of person including gender you are, until the puberty and hormones fuck you up that is.

Sadly experiments like that are immoral so we won't know ever.

>>11069939

>we wont know ever

have you tried googling?
spoilers he twins both ended up killing themselves

>>11069916
>children living in fear is proper
You and your kind are the reason Vladimir Tepes existed, historically, you are on the path that will see you all impaled, and not in the fun way.

>>11069931
>gender dysphoria
Could you give any more details than "gender dysphoria since I was 4"?
Cuz I once wore my moms high heels and used lipstick and didn't end up sucking cock after growing up.

>>11069946
what?
yes, children living in fear is proper. If you had read what I wrote, you'd see that I suggest that children always lived in fear, and today is no different.

A child cannot differentiate between logical and illogical fears, such as a boogeyman out to kill him, or eventual climate catastrophes. However, at least a logical fear will lead the child towards considering the environment in every decision he makes.
Whereas the illogical fear of boogeymen will simply damage his intrapersonal relationships.

I am not saying that "children SHOULD live in fear." What I'm saying is that we have always scared children, and children themselves have always scared themselves too, whether that be through scary stories, movies, books, etc.
Now at least, the way we scare them has some legitimacy, and future use.

>>11069887
>conservatives are all genetic determinists when it comes to IQ and criminality
Not all of them are, just the more extreme right-wing ones

>>11069945
>spoilers he twins both ended up killing themselves
Please give me a hint, I did some research in the past but didn't find anything worthwhile.

>>11069957
>"I'm not saying children SHOULD live in fear."
>What I'm saying is that we have always scared children.

DO YOU LISTEN TO YOURSELF?!

>climate change is something to fear
Very low iq attitude

>>11066940
Nobody can determine whether or not they have gender dysphoria. You have to see a clinician for that.

no. as we also prohibit "consentual" sexual relationships between children and adults

>>11068079
If she can lick that cone she can also lick a dick

>>11069976
Why shouldn't they?

Are you saying children should be insulated from the dangers of the outside world up until their 18, at which point, fuck them, they're on their own now?

>>11066940
No and if any young relatives of mine started spouting that shit I'd be looking more into who they hang out with or what their school is teaching because somebody is obviously pushing it.

No, you don't really start crystallizing your gender until you're 10 and hormones begin. Before then it's just minor differences.

I miss the days when boys could just play with dolls and makeup for fun and in passing without some insane SJW mom immediately rushing them to the nearest pediatrician to have their gender checked out. Jesus.

>>11069962
john money

>>11067918
I've been saying for years that this trans craze is the lobotomy of our age. A cure that is worse than the sickness, medical and otherwise.

>>11070661
It's possibly closer to 'hysteria' where they ended up giving otherwise healthy depressed women hysterectomies in an effort to shut them up

Imagine if they had chopped my cock off and drugged me because I liked tea parties and dolls. Imagine if I had said I wanted to be Pippi Longstocking and they mutilated my dick over it.

>>11067907
>. They actually believe that they are all going to be boiled alive.

Me in high school.
I wonder if it affected me.

>>11070739
I'm trans I still have my dick. I do hate it and slam doors on it. But you don't have to get rid of it. You can also get that orchiectomy so the doctors turn you into a futa by inverting your balls.

>>11069939
He would grow up a faggot but wouldn't develop dysphoria, now if you feed him hormones, he would.

>>11070771
He can act male and present male while on hormones. It'll just make his skin softer and give him boobs and bigger hips and shit like that.

>>11069939

Parents of toddlers will tell you a very different story. Boys and girls are immediately and apparently different in their behavior, regardless of whether they like to play and do the same stuff occasionally. Girls tend to be more docile and level while boys are immediately crazy.

But yes, boys in female environments get feminized. My gf babysits a family where there's only one boy, two sisters, and all of his direct influences (babysitter, mom) are way more involved than his lone male influence in his dad. He's already growing up to be a massive pussy.

>>11070775
Men kill themselves when their dicks doesn't work, imagine if one didn't even develop correctly.

>>11070776
Not really, since their birth male and females are treated differently, that socialization is what causes the differences in sexes, if you gave somebody to hold a male baby and told them he is a girl, they would hold him and talk to him differently differently t

>>11070784

Yeah "not really", spoken like a true armchair psychologist. Surely millions of years of dimorphic evolution hasn't resulted in any minor mental differences in boys and girls, it's all socialization's fault.

>>11070796
hurr

>>11070798

So boys are getting socialized to have elevated delinquency rates all through grade school as well? Bear in mind K-12 is an exceedingly female influenced environment.

>>11070805
yes

I wonder what will happen to my newborn son if I subconsciously treat him like a girl.
The thing is, I have gender dysphoria so I'm not exactly a male role model. I'm very feminine.

>>11070812

>>11070817

You know you can be a feminine man without going overboard and trying to pretend you're another sex entirely. This isn't discrete.

>>11066940
No because that's something you get from watching too much porn and/or anime and not something one is born with.

>>11070817
His environment would still raise him as a male, violent and prone to raping, incompetent , lazy and emotional.

>>11070825
Yes but I have dreams and fantasies where I'm a mother. It's probably gonna be weird.

>>11070829
I'm not like that. I don't think my kids will be either.

>>11070836
Unless you actively attempt to acknowledge your male socialization you are like any other male.

>>11070842
What do you mean?

>>11070847
>>11070842


Don't feed the troll