/sci/ - Science & Math

>>11056697
>mfw

>>11056701
thank you

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>>11056697
Look at this CGI reconstruction of what we think a black hole looks like

>>11056701
>tfw no gf

>>11056812
Actually, that's the disc.

>>11056701
>tfw no Jewish high iq qt gf that will pleasure me with her black hole

how many millions of dollars did it cost for some retarded picture of the one ring?

>>11056836
the imaging project was relatively cheap. the radio telescopes were already being run/deployed and the EHT folks just rented like a couple of days on the actual apparatus. the actual telescopes are being used by many other collaborations for a lot of other more important research; the EHT memers (ahem harvard ahem) just saw an opportunity for huge publicity by applying their "imaging" expertise (N.B. imaging is a meme)

>>11056697
This picture is wonderful by 1990 standards. By today standards, it's objectively absolute shit,

I've got a black hole I can show you

>>11056858
a lot of work went into making that image. it is low resolution, but not because the people who made the OP image were stupid. (PS: kate bouman's algorithm was not used in making the "final image" which OP posted). they did a lot of very serious and good work to analyze the data EHT compiled for making that image, and they even used Kate's version as an example of how NOT to make a meme image, in making their actual BH image

in any case the whole "imaging" thing is obviously oriented to popsci media. the actual scientists behind the image were more concerned with looking at histograms and graphs, not the meme image (which never took Kate's algorithm into account)

>>11056701
I want to kiss her big jew nose and watch her get all flustered.

>>11056905
>the actual scientists behind the image were more concerned with looking at histograms and graphs
What did they find?

>>11056852
yeah, but didn't it have a large team of people paid for with public funding to do all this useless crap?

>>11056697
It ain’t even black

>>11056905
>they even used Kate's version as an example of how NOT to make a meme image, in making their actual BH image

I have no idea what you just wrote.

>>11056963
well they confirmed the observation of a black hole's shadow and accretion disk.

>>11056973
the scientists who didn't rely on neural-network inference determined that using neural networks to construct the image (as kate was doing) was not needed

>>11056970
the team was probably 20 people (i.e. grad students, postdocs, and junior professors) who probably saw nothing out of it -- their PIs probably shifted some funds around and the actual researches involved probably got paid exactly what their monthly payments were on their existing contracts.

this is how science works -- the old dudes in control of the money pay for the gifted students to go do expensive experiments, but the students who do it ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EVER SEE AN EXTRA CENT

>>11056697
because of shit like this now i think that black holes dont real

>>11056697
>look at this black hole

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>>11056905
You don't simply justifiy expending millions of dollars with a bunch of histograms, graphs and the worst reconstruction of a black hole image in recent history.

I wonder how much money this lab will have to recoup after this god awful representation of a black hole.

>>11058289
>the worst reconstruction of a black hole image in recent history.
So name a better one
>this lab
You realize it was an international effort, right?

>>11056697
That is a real image of a black hole.
Katie Bouman said so.

>>11058413
Imagine if the original effort that was made in the 70s to develop the first MRI machine resulted in a bunch of incomprehensible raw FFT measurements stored in one thousand 10 MB HDDs that you cannot possibly process at the time and you can only show a 64x64 black and white picture of something that looks either like a brain tumor or a monkey penis and that's what you end up showing to the people who financed your "world changing discovery".

This terrible and disgusting shitty image of something that is supposedly a BH is literally what I just described.

>>11058565
Fuck off /pol/

>>11060320
You didn't answer his question.

>>11056701
>NOOOOOOOOO ONLY MEN CAN STEAL ALL THE CREDIT FOR SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES MADE BY A HANDFUL OF DEDICATED SCIENTISTS

>>11060324
Let's see how well the finances of this avant garde "international effort" do in a couple of years. This stuff is literally unpresentable.

>>11060337
>original scientific photography of a novel subject
>finances
lmfao how is this relevant to anything

>>11060347
Please tell me you don't actually think these people just got computational and lab time for free. The participants of this trainwreck are literally OWNED by their financers until they are dead.

>>11060372
So? I'm glad I'm not them. It doesn't devalue their work.

>>11056852
>rented
Couldn't they just get the data from them as it's already being collected? Or are the telescopes not pointing at a black hole?

>>11060384
...it isn't free to use a telescope, retard

>>11060392
No I mean the data from the people who own the telescope, they're always running

>>11056701
Look at that generic kike nose.

>>11060405
What makes a nose generic? lmao fucking WHAT
>>11060398
Yes. And to use a telescope, one has to rent time there.

>>11060412
>What makes a nose generic? lmao fucking WHAT
Post ur nose schlomo.

>>11056919
romance anon ftw

>>11060372
So the universities? Clearly you haven’t been to graduate school.

>>11056701
Remember when /pol/, in an attempt to downplay the rare phenomenon of a woman making a major contribution to humanity, spread rumors that she stole the achievement of a male coworker? And it turned out that coworker was an LGBT-obsessed superliberal who immediately, and as publicly as possible, pushed credit back to the woman? Remember how pathetic that was? Good thing it's all been cleared up for good though am I right lads.

We're inside of a black hole. That's why it seems like everything is expanding exponentially. First.

damn my thread is still alive

BUMP

>>11056697
What is that orange shit? Fire?

>>11056697
Black holes aren't real and Stephen Hawking died decades ago and was replaced multiple times.

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>>11056697
I don't see any black hole.
I just a bunch of light orbiting what looks like empty space.

>>11062742
KEK

>>11062729
It's the accretion disk.

>>11057072
>i think
nope

>>11056701
>Mac
Fucking D R O P P E D

It's a gate to Oblivion!

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>>11063750
>Goatee
Kek

>>11056701
Every time I do it makes me laugh

>>11056697
>every time i do it makes me lol

>>11063348
>using plastic windows fecesbox

>>11056822
Prove it.

Okay I'll look

look at THIS black hole

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>>11056834
>Jewish
>High IQ
pick one

The whole story just demonstrates how much scientists are out of touch with the normies and the general media circus. Did not one of them stop to think hey, the media are making a big deal out our incredibly complicated and technically mind blowing experiment, but the actual image is going to be a complete anticlimax for normies raised on images from
pop-tier sci-fi flicks? Nope, because they are technicians and scientists, not public relations experts.

They really should have shunned the media attention or diverted it away. Failing that they should have commissioned some artist to create some visually awe inspiring image captioned with "based on real scientific data". Normies dont care about the small print caption underneath scientific pictures. They rarely read them. They just want pretty pictures. If they had done that then the whole thing would have been a non issue, the normies would have gone away in admiration of those clever scientists, and the scientists themselves would have got the praise they deserved from the academic circles which actually understand this shit.

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Someone post black hole-chan