/sci/ - Science & Math

Best of luck with all this stuff man. Be safe.

>/sci/ legend
>doing this for attention on the internet
>proving to be the definition of faggot
>no magnets

gtfo

>>1098383
I'd rather /sci/ be associated with fags who manage to scavenge entire fucking chemistry labs than the seemingly endless streams of 'fuckin magnet' and religion vs science threads.

Best of luck op, any ideas for experiments yet? Something groundbreaking I presume?

67: ty sir.

83: I'm not doing it for attention... this whole business started after I wanted a couple of components ID'd, if you were following along. This is as much /sci/'s endeavour as mine.

09: a few, I've not given it much thought yet, I need to relearn and revise my chemistry. Most ideas so far are just based around plants & water consumption / finding ideal plant-water, mostly because my housemate was using the kit as vases for a while... I think she still is in the lounge actually. Nothing interesting. I'll be spending ages cleaning and testing all this, plenty of time to learn & get ideas. :)

Er, whoops... fell asleep, sorry.

Right. I did two trips, and brought back ... pretty much everything.

Pic related, it's run # 1 - I promise you I'm not moving things around between shoots to make it look like I have more than I do. I took three large newspapers with me, and still ran out of the stuff.... had to use some handy paper hand towels for the small volumetrics, I'm becoming an expert at wrapping and packing the things.

So here we have:

23 volumetrics of various sizes, some slightly more exotic than others. Calibration unknown, but very likely to be accurate given what this lab did.

10 seperation funnels of varying sizes

Countless burrettes and pippetes etc, that box was a godsend. Some are still sealed.

2 measuring cylinders

1 conical flask, currently contains a spider that attacked me...

1 .. U-shaped thing. This seems pretty specialist, I'll post detailed pics later for idents.

Analytical Balance. Fuck yes.

>>1101333
What's going on here?

Did you break into some dudes lab and steal his shit? If so, for what purpose.

You've piqued my interests, I'm curious now.

Op, you should make meth, or synthesize heroin.

>>1101354

Potted summary for those new to the saga: this is a very large factory, it made metal products, and had a few labs for testing the metals made. Lab #3 is pathetic, and had next to nothing in it, except some random chemicals (including aqua regia), a vacuum oven ... and a spectrometer. Sadly, I noted the spectrometer a couple of weeks ago, and didn't think much of it due to the 1960's look; apparently it was still worth thousands though. When I went back the other day to check on it, it'd been removed... survived years open to all comers and then vanishes as soon as I know about it. Bleh.

Lab #2, had a lot of chemicals (some incredibly nasty), and a range of glassware. I now have everything from there that I'd like, with one possible exception, depends how the rest of this lark plays out really.

Lab #1, has no chemicals (other than enough acetone to blow the place halfway to Scotland), but a metric shitload of glass. There are a few other rooms nearby that have random old crap in them, including books, paperwork/filing cabinets, and what can only be called an electronics lab. There's a whole panel with all sorts of power outlets on it, by a large workbench. Never seen anything like it.

The factory is completely abandoned, gutted, and awaiting demolition; there is no breaking & entering going on, you can just walk in and out. no laws are being broken, etc etc.

There was no chemical spill / toxic leak / radiation incident / alien landing.

If you want more lab/factory photos I can provide them later.

I'm not building a meth lab.

I don't plan on selling most things, unless I hit stuff that's worthless to me but has value.

# And a partridge in a pear tree~!

Hey OP, what about the cops? You just made a lot of money, but how will you outdo them? Plans?

>>1 .. U-shaped thing. This seems pretty specialist, I'll post detailed pics later for idents.

This is a U shaped gas washing tube. It's used to pass gas through or over a material, to dry the gas or react it with the material.

What will you do with the equip OP you beast? Always wanted to rob those fucking smug uni's of their shit. Tried to learn about the chemistry of explosives there when I was 14. They didn't like talking about it lol, then they /gtfo'd me. Doesn't matter that you can't do school chemistry when you cant get the chems because they dont sell to the public... >.>

>>1101379
OP slap on some radiation symbols or something like "DANGER TOXIC CHEMICALS HANDLE CAREFULLY"to the vacuum oven and other pieces of neat equipment so that they don't vanish. Poor spectrometer's probably being turned to scrap for money to buy drugs.

>>1098352
OP are you sure that is legal? Surely a place with that much free stuff can't be real.

Oh snap OP! Wish I had a abandoned factory/lab full of shit where I was Lol! Fuck, sounds like from the amount of shit there that I'd just roll up in my truck and fill it with shit!

Any experience with energetic materials man? That acids you found would be very useful...

>>1101385 , >>1101396

Abandoned property becomes the property of the finder, this is all legal. I'd not do it if it weren't.

The U-tube has slightly odd innards, and a one-way valve... not sure the pic shows them.

The first spectro is gone now ... however, I did find *another* slightly battered spectrometer near lab #1. This one is far to huge to get out of the building, so it's safe for now.

Afk, sorting the second run...

>>1101413

The acids are old, may be impure, and are mind-boggingly dangerous. I don't really want to mess with them if possible, however I do realise that the chems will be very hard to get as a civvy.

Hope you have a fume hood in your house if you want to actually do anything with all of this glassware...

Hey OP, make sure you watch out for asbestos in the building. Anything older than 30 years is riddled with the stuff, and it is in everything from drywall mud to floor tiles, and especially in pipe insulation. A good rule is stay away from crumbly stuff and piles of dust.

An interesting asbestos fact:
The real damage to your lungs happens when the macrophages that roam around dissolving shit wrap around an asbestos fiber, which causes them to rupture and spill their enzymes on your lung tissue. This is what causes the scarring and that lovely crackling noise when you breathe.

Thing with acids; the more dangerous they are the more win they are. Remember that OP. The more potent your nitric is, the better. Sadly nitric decomps quickly at high concs, but you can always distill it with conc sulf to give conc nitric under low pressure ^-^

>>1101439
Yeah, if you can't find someone to buy them straight away, or somewhere safe to store them then it's probably wiser to just let whoever blows the place up worry about them. Just out of interest though, what did you see there?

The acetone on the other hand, what are you going to do about that?

>>1101476
Oh yeah. Where I am acetone is a bitch to buy ($15-20 a L), but it's a great polar solvent with a really low Boiling point and works great as a... solvent... funnily enough.

Acetone is one of those things you should have like Ethanol; something dispensable that you can just evaporate off and be done with. I'd take all of it. And all the chemicals as well, you'll never know when you could use them.

Is there any sodium azide may I ask?

quality /sci/ thread?

I'm suddenly overcome with joy, please carry on.

>>1101449

lol he's raiding a chem lab and grabbing chemicals, beakers, and other shit. asbestos last thing he should worry about.

apparently he was going to server shots in some of the containers.

>>1101432
Wondering when you were coming back.
So, you got the scale. I see. Where did you say you lived again, and any allergies you may have?

>>1101443

Glass doesn't make fumes :P I do plan to use this stuff, but obviously I'll not do anything dangerous without adequate precautions.

>>1101449

Noted, I did encounter some in a warehouse, but I avoided it.

>>1101462

Yes ... but I don't particularly want to keep acids around that can kill people in a variety of exotic ways. Also fuck yes, heating nitric acid. What could possibly go wrong! :D

>>1101476

Nitric, hydrochloric, hydroflouric, I think potassic? Began with P anyway. Also A A Acid, whatever that is, there seems to be a few definitions.

>>1101501

I will take some acetone yes, I need it to clean the glass. I've left most of the chems. Too dangerous to store / move, and I can't be sure that people haven't dicked about with them, which could have fatal consequences. I've taken a range of metal powders however.

>>1101525

I've never said anything about shots... the volumetrics'd make for the fairest drinking game in history mind you.

>>1101633

Greetings my fine friend. Yes, you could have warned me that the scales would likely weigh a metric fuckton... they were an arse to get home. I've not tested them yet, any suggestions for how to go about doing so?

Loot 2 incoming!

In this pic:

31 (I think) volumetrics, ranging from 1 litre to 20ml.

4 seperatory funnels

2 gooch (sp?) funnels, for filtering

5 boiling flasks

Another conical flask

3 pipettes

2 what-the-fucks, with round bases and three entry holes.

Misc tubes/pipes etc

3 of those glass bowl things, forgotten the name, sorry.

A few other bits, pear-flasks, bottles, etc.

>>1101752
Not sure really... Can you find any serial numbers on it, or any identification, so we can search for info online?

(Waterboy: England, and none to speak of)

This pic: pipettes, burretes. They're bitches to transport.

I have a few other misc things too, a couple more electonics and a couple of small general chemistry books, for edumacation purposes... I'll have a few bits of hardware to identify iirc, I'll look up and prep the photos. Anyone have anything in particular they want to see, regarding either the lab, factory, or glass/loot?

Also, anyone want to take a rough guess at the value of this run's proceeds? I don't plan to sell anything unless I have surplus, and most of it needs cleaning properly.

Sorry about the poor writing in the first pic btw, all I could find was a crayon-like thing. You'd think a lab would have pencils somewhere. ¬_¬

just looking into that balance for you.

The Left aligned Screen with 2 buttons + red looks like one of the LAC series.

Any details you can give on any writing ANYWHERE (Yes even what it says on the buttons) would be useful. And branding or anything, Even if there is a warning lable on the bottmo or some shit.

>>1101876

This is the model page: http://sartorius.dataweigh.com/repair/request.asp?modelID=3461

Looks like you need to request a manual, etc, how awkward of them. :(

Other pics of the place / remaining hardware incoming. This is from the 1960's - a card in the case gave you the option of _telegramming_ for service requests. It was last serviced in 2003, it has a lot of moving bits so I presume it'll have been decalibrated by the moving around. Seriously heavy..

You need to clean up and organize. Dirty dirty.

Rough plan of the lab block btw:

Mechlab has loads of machines in, looks like they worked with metals here and tested samples.

Eleclab is the electronics lab you've already seen

Office - durr.

Liblab - library lab, tons of books. has a couple of crucibles lying around, and a few broken machines.

Speclab: contains the spectrometer, and a load of acetone. Also misc other old machines, and a storecupboard.

Lablab - goldmine central. This is lab #1, and has frankly ludicrous quantities of glassware in it.

-------------------------------
| | |
| mechlab | eleclab |
| | |
-------------- -------------
| |
| office | | liblab |
| | | |
-------------- -------------
| | |
| lablab | | speclab |
| | | |
| |
--------------| |--------------

onwards to empty storage rooms.

Things that are worth a damn:

1) schlenk flasks

2) schlenk manifolds (eg a "manifold" preferably a double manifold)

3) flash columns for chromatography (flash columns have a ground glass joint at the top)

4) sohxlets (the biggest ones can fit a coke can in the extraction chamber)

5) round bottom flasks of varying sizes (the bigger the better)

6) reflux adapters/distillation columns. the more complex the design the better

7) a short path, vacuum distillation apparatus. (vacuum -> all glass joints)

8) an oil bath heat controller

9) a good stir plate

10) a bunch of teflon magnetic stirrers of varying size, as clean as possible (its hard to remove organometallics)

11) a duo seal style vacuum pump
thats the majority of the common EXPENSIVE glassware...

to move onto the MORE expensive stuff:


1) a rotavap

2) a refrigerator system

3) an electronic vacuum controller

4) an electronic sealed vacuum pump


a brand new setup like above would be ~$5000 if you got a deal.


if you have a rotavap, you can basically make any drug you could ever imagine.

you dont need to worry about time consuming purification methods.


materials:

1) sodium sulfate

2) silica

3) hexane

4) ethyl acetate

5) dichloromethane

6) toluene
aside from some miscellaneous glassware (graduated addition funnels, dean stark traps, etc) you would have a fully functional organic synthetic setup....

but you would still need a hood.

Bleh, 4chan ate the spaces. used dots instead. Prior pic was the liblab, this is a machine from the speclab.

--------------------------------
|...............|...............|
|.mechlab..|..eleclab..|
|..............................|
--------------....-------------
|.............................|
|...office...|.|..liblab...|
|.............|.|.............||
--------------..-------------
|.............|..............|
|..lablab..|.|.speclab.|
|.............|.|.............|
|.............................|
--------------| |--------------

(\/)

...wakka wakka wakka...

Did you really steal this shit? If so, you are a

nigger

>>1101933
http://www.sartorius-mechatronics.de/uploads/tx_sartoriusmechpdf/MAN-R200D_R180D-%24F1-e.pdf

Thank me later... :B

Contributing to OP's revising of o-chem

>>1101501
>>1101501
>>1101501

acetone IS used as a "wash all" solvent in 100% of all organic labs across the globe. go into any university, look for a red metal can that looks like its for storing gasoline..... it will contain acetone.

>>1101752
>>1101752
>>1101752
>>1101752


1) aqua regia reacts with itself and must be made fresh in order to be effective.

2) nitric acid is not dangerous unless you literally dump a shitload of benzene or toluene into a hot mixture of concentrated or fuming acid.

they let first year undergraduate biology majors use it without gloves

3) sodium azide is not stable at room temperature and would be stored in a fridge in a sealed container.

if you take ridiculous precautions with an ultra pure sample, you can store it indefinitely at room temp (under argon, in a sealed opaque heavy walled glass vial)

if there was sodium azide, it would likely be worthless


4) its a fucking metal working factory. all of the shit in the labs are for ANALYSIS of metal samples.


duh. you would have to be a fucking utter moron not to realize this (read: lots of volumetric flasks and pipettes...)

apparently OP has never taken the ACS Bachelors level required "analytical chemistry" laboratory class.


you analyze a variety of metal samples and determine their impurities.


what do I remember about that lab?

lots of pipetting, lots of standards, and AAS

>>1102007

interesting, many thanks!

I have a couple of schlenk flasks, literally just a couple.

I have labs 1 and 2 both had schlenk manifolds, on wooden apparatus, and some two-valve chambers nearby. lab 2's is pretty beaten up, although I have some spare manifolds for it that are okay, lab 1's seems in better condition and has an intactish frame. If they're worth liberating then I'll get them next time.

I have loads of round-bottomed/boiling flasks, in all sorts of sizes, one looks like it can hold a litre.

I didn't see any stirrers, but I'll recheck on next trip. I didn't see any of the 'more expensive' set, sorry to say.

I think lab 2 had silica and sodium sulphate, but I may be mistaken / the chems may be absent/spoiled.

Many, many thanks for your info, that's saved me a lot of time. :D

Could I trouble you for photos/links for 3, 6 & 7?

>>1102057


those manifolds are the most expensive pieces of glassware you have mentioned then...


a new, 2 line, 4 port, ground glass schlenk manifold is about $500.


you can easily sell a used one for $150 on ebay without breaking a sweat (literally people would buy it the same day you posted it)
in a lab dealing with metallic samples....


base bath every single piece of glassware that is later to come into contact with OTHER solutions (you dont need to worry about things that only ever interacted with gasses or vacuum)


base bath:


a concentrated IprOH solution of KOH.

>>1102057
>>1102057
>>1102057
>>1102057

3:

a flash column (note the ground glass joint at the top)

short path vacuum distillation apparatus.

vacuum: all ground glass joints and a nipple for the vacuum.

short path: short column length


this is the more complex type....


these things can run $75-$200 depending on the condition and how clean they are.

>>1102040

I didn't steal it, UK law says that abandoned property can be claimed by the finder. These are clearly abandoned, and have been for many years, that's one reason I tool so many photos, if ever I need to prove it.

>>1102048

You rock, and you should feel rocking. Ty sir. :)

>>1102052

It's not revising, I have no science edumacation beyond GCSE (although I got an A). I'm just a dude who took a walk and found God's own glassware stash. Thank you though, I do plan to get into this at a hobbyist level, and maybe take a formal course later depending on my feelings for it, I used to love chem in school.

>>1102053

Noted, however, the bottles aren't all sealed, and people have been literally playing in there. I have no way to know who's possibly mixed what with what. :\

Unsure what this critter is?

honestly, all or most of the chemicals are worthless to you.

maybe the acetone, but most likely nothing else.

anything that has survived without proper storage is probably not worth the effort of safely transporting and storing it at your house.


there are plenty of CHEAP chemicals out there (nitric acid is FUCKING CHEAP).


a good bet is to (obviously) look for any chemical that:

1) is properly labeled

2) still stored with a tight lid and/or parafilm (parafin wax film stretched across the lid to seal it)

3) still a white powder or crystal.


in a lab dealing with metals.... you will mostly find reagents for assaying the chemical composition of metals produced by the factory.

you will find acids, chelators (EDTA for example), UV or Vis active standards for UV-VIS or HPLC assays...


look for some hamilton glass syringes.

those things are fucking ridiculously expensive.

>>1102091

I may not be a scientist. But my google-fu is strong.

>>1102066

Pretty sure I have one of those, one sec...

>>1102064

I can't find my photos of the in-situ ones, hang on while I hunt. These are the packed ones I have, I think they're spares for it, but may be mistaken.

Flash column?

>>1102182
looks like a burette for titration

>>1102185
nvmd, no markings

>>1102091

>It's not revising, I have no science edumacation beyond GCSE


That's cool though I still find these to be generally helpful. ^_^

>>1102119
No syringes, sorry. :(

Unsure if this is a distillation column?

>>1102185

I'm rolling in burettes, I know what they look like by now :)

My Soxhlet family :D

This critter is a mystery still? it has a measure on the side, and the outer fluid is seperate from the main column, which is fairly narrow

I know some old calcs are worth something ... not sure if this is one of them though. Will need to revisit to check for serial/model numbers

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>>1102194
>>1102194

sep funnel. can be used to collect distillate in a vacuum distillation.

not all sep funnels are conical

>>1102182
>>1102182


yeah its a microscale flash column. you could load it with about 100 mgs

>>1102200
>>1102200


if you clean that sohxlet on the left up, you could probably sell it for $100

I'm in two minds as to whether this rather encrusted Kipp's worth the haul & cleaning

>>1102303


doubtful. you might be able to sell it as a classical piece.

no one would ever buy it for a lab though.

you might be able to get like $20-30 if it was nice and clean.

>>1102206
>>1102206
>>1102206
>>1102206
>>1102206


that one is hard to tell. it kind of looks like a hydrometer, but I cant be sure.

I could probably flog it for more as a superbong. :)

>>1102178
>>1102178
>>1102178


Not exactly what I was talking about. those manifolds cannot support a high vacuum.

they are mostly just for gas delivery (N2, Ar, H2, CO, and O2) and removal.


this is what I mean.

some have ground glass valves, others have PTFE valves.

I know it sounds strange, but if the inner diamater is too small, they cannot stand up to a vacuum.

I had a friend in another lab while I was doing undergraduate research, and they had a bunch of manifolds like the one you posted, but they only used them for gas delivery.

I almost trod on this... I've the feeling it would have been very bad for my shoes, the pink one looks very like dilute aqua regia

>>1102320


just make sure you tell whoever buys it that it was used with unknown materials and should be thoroughly cleaned using high concentrations of base.


base baths, which are used to thoroughly clean glassware, actually dissolve the glass.

the typical method involves mixing up 5 gallons in a HDPE bucket, and then completely immersing your glassware for a day or as much as a week.


you can also use H2SO4, H2O2, HNO3, or some other strong acid or oxidant.

OP does this thing still work and is it digital? Can't see it too good in the picture. If so, it's worth a lot.

>>1102327

ah, they're for gas then. they lived on rigs like the one you can partly see on the right here, sadly I don't have a full-on photo that I can find

>>1102357

digital yes, not tried it yet. Will do when I can get to it again - I've filled 80% of the floor with bloody glasswork :|

it's slightly ruined as it was under a window (needless to say the window had no glass left) but is that a stirrer perchance?

This one is also a puzzle to me

>>1102358

yeah, I know.

I doubt the factory had much use for small scale vacuum distillations and purifications


this is why people use schlenk manifolds (one line supplies gasses, and one line supplies vacuum)

they are most commonly found in synthetic laboratories at research universities or in the R&D department of various chemical and pharmaceutical companies.

they are used in basic synthesis (organic or inorganic)


look for a vacuum pump. they are worth lots.

I have an old Duo Seal pump from the 1960s that my dad bought after he graduated from high school.

its still worth over $150.

>>1102360
Can you see what kind of accuracy it has? Like how many decimals can it display?

>>1102375

It has two modes, one up to 205 grams with 1pd, the other up to 42g ... which has 5dp. :|

>>1102365
>>1102365
>>1102365

its hard to tell.

the electrodes give it away.

its probably some form of gas flow measurement/detection system.

I cant tell if there is supposed to be a gap between the electrodes or if it is simply a filament like in a lightbulb.

either way, the gas flow and the chemical composition of the gas affect the electrode.

this is how compounds are detected in GC systems (gas chromatography)

sometimes they burn the eluted analytes, sometimes they detect a change in resitance or capacitance or a change in the intensity of a light

>>1102391

thats pretty standard.


its rare to measure a chemical to the mg while it is inside a flask.

it is actually a basic tenet of laboratory procedure to weigh using wax paper or weighing dishes.

too much mass on those analytical balances can give you innaccurate results when measuring to high precision.

>>1102391
if it works and the cover is repaird that thing might be worth over 4000 pounds

>>1102402
wait, I might have been a little optimistic there. It measures with an accuracy of 0.01 mg right? Than it's worht over 1000 pounds

Good thread, OP.
Thanks for the OC.

>>1102402

Yus, 'if'. I think a part is missing too... but hopefully it'll work. Makes me wonder what the other one is too. Tbh, I'm not sure I want to sell this stuff, yet anyway - I'll let /sci/ know if/when I do.

>>1102410

in 205 mode it's accurate to 1dp, in 42 mode it's accurate to 5dp. this was in the room with the spectrometer, so it was obviously used with that... makes sense it'd be so precise.

>>1102440

damn it people keep posting while I'm replying :p

You're quite welcome, did you see the previous threads or are you new to the party?

>>1101379
>random old crap in them, including books

Books? what kind of books? there could be some good shit in those books you know.

>>1102475
Mostly metal-related stuff, as you'd expect. See pic for example from the Liblab... mostly it's just magazines and strewn/damp papers in the others ones.

Was part 3 archived? I missed it yet hung on greatly to part 1 and 2

>>1102504
Hard copies of journals arent something to dismiss...you may be interested in taking them if you have the time.

>>1102466
I saw what appeared to be some leather bound books in one of the photos. What's in them?

In before leukemia.

WoW... this is... SO amazing

>nitric acid is FUCKING CHEAP
LOLWUT?

>>1102574

I don't think it was, part 2 *was* archived, but has yet to appear on the site. I have an html copy of the thread near the end, and obviously all my original source images, I'll zip and upload it at some point (don't have time to sort it right now).

>>1102585

Yes, but books weigh a lot. I have some smaller books on general chemistry, and there's one on molybdenum that keeps calling to me.

>>1102603

The one on the top is an ancient dictionary. Thinking about it, I do know a specialist old book dealer... I should possibly consult him on some of them.

>>1102613
>leukemia from mineral acids, and salt standard
LOL misinformed about chemistry much. Only chromic acid is gonna pose a real cancer threat as a mineral acid.

>>1102402

Forgot to mention, the cover is fine. It has two sliding panels, top and right, as well as being liftable. That's just open as I put the central disk in, I need to compare may bag of Misc Crap to the manual that a kind scholar provided, to hopefully find the missing bits & test it.

Photo of a factory floor... they're all much like this, other than some offices and secluded corners. Everything valuable has gone, as has a lot of the floor (for the wires).

Cobwebs ftw

I found a cache of these in the speclab storecupboard, the glass is surprisingly thick

OP did you check for radiation? Some times it's used for the craziest things.

I didn't see anything hazadous other than acids and the odd asbestos clump, broken glass notwithstanding, that stuff is literally everywhere.

I'll take photos later of the remaining unidentified's; I'm indisposed again at the moment; happily most of the stuff is known now. You can see something that looks like a round distillation cow in the prior pictures, but it has no exit side; that's definately going to make the list.

OP: I think you are the most famous person on /sci/

>>1102206
I've used one of these in the lab, not sure of what it's called though. Basically it's for measuring gas pressure, which is what the thing at the bottom does. Thermometer is obvious. The way I've used it was to attach a sample vial to the top there, release gas from the top left, get it to a certain pressure, then seal off the vial and analyze it. Can't for the life of me remember its name though. Gas something probably. Keep it up man, digging hearing all this.

>>1102815
meh, those just look like jars used to store silica gel (dessicators), sometimes its put under reduced pressure to keep the silica dry while in storage hence the thickness.

dont quote me on this by the way, its a jar, could be for lots of things.

>>1103369
Being a 3rd year chem student makes you worthy of a trip? I'm a 3rd year and I would not put any weight behind my knowledge at this point. We know just enough to be dangerous at this point.

So what are you actually going to do with this equipment besides suck your own dick and attention seek on /sci/ ?

>>1103389
I also am very talented at repeating myself repeating myself.

>>1103392
My guess: Synthesize drugs

>>1103389
>worthy of a trip

i was unaware tripfags had such rigorous standards.

but seriously, im telling him to take what i say with a grain of salt (more or less).

also, although postgrads lurking will probably take the piss out of me for saying this; its not like we're clueless as undergrads, in third year we should have a decent grasp of our chosen field, enough of a grasp to discuss it on a scientific level as opposed to discussing it in layman terms and/or as people outside the field.

small rant.

>>1103348

I've not been around long enough to know who else is 'famous', so can't say... Tbh I'm just a person who took a walk and found stuff. /sci/ told me what it was / was worth, I found more stuff, and the cycle has snowballed to here.

>>1103356

Thanks, that could well be it. There's a couple of those there still, they're pains to transport so didn't make the earlier runs.

>>1103369

Yus, I didn't think it was anything interesting, was just curious as to the unusually solid nature of it. There was silica in the speclab in a few misc containers, so that'd make a lot of sense. I didn't see any vacuum devices though... hrm.

>>1103392

Manners. I'm not attention-seeking, this whole business started as a simple question. I'm just rolling with the flow pretty much.

I'm going to sort, clean, test, catagorise & mothball everything first, the boring stuff, and (re)learn chem in the meantime. After that I really don't know... possibly sell duplicate/surplus equipment.

The more interesting question is what am I going to do with the stuff I've *not* got, eg the spectrometer. I can't shift it, the only person I know who can verify the integrity and potentially sell it on is out of the country for a fortnight, by which time it'll be in a landfill somewhere. I may approach a university and see if they'd have use for it.

after all this i hope that he plan on becoming the next Walt

I'm not sure what is going on here. Are you stealing from your school lab? Reported for illegal content.

>>1103492

Read the thread and you might find out. 5th post gives you all the info you could want...

>>1103492
did this guy not read this thread?

Busta you troll'n.

2/10 for getting an initial almost rage.

Wow, what state was this in? can I buy some of that?

>>1103559
It's in England bro.

Muhfuggen bump.

So you stole some fucking beakers? Couldn't you just buy that shit? What the fuck

>>1103611
Have you seen how many he has?

Fascinating threads, hornet. I'm no kind of chemfag, but something about this has me totally flumoxed from a sociological point of view, if you like.

I mean, how does a place like this just come to be abandoned? I know it happens, but I can't help wondering about the mechanism.

Some labcoat comes to work one day, does one final experiment, writes up the results, files them in a never to be seen again cabinet, leaves a bunch of stuff out on the bench and thinks "That's it then, I'll go home, have a nice cup of tea, and look for a new job tomorrow.".

Management / the liquidators / whomever have sold off / outsourced / whatever their business to China, and on the settlement date they close their briefcases one last time and just walk away. Without thinking "we can make a few more bucks flogging off this plant and equipment.".

It just seems so strange... "we'll leave this stuff here, and someone will be along later to clear it up.".

>>1103611
Jealous much?

Hornet, not only are you a Godlike level 50 Luck Specialist, but you've also made a critical hit against my heart. You had best follow all this up with more info and the progression of your own labratory, even if it is just a shed.

>>1103637
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Management / the liquidators / whomever have sold off / outsourced / whatever their business to China, and on the settlement date they close their briefcases one last time and just walk away. Without thinking "we can make a few more bucks flogging off this plant and equipment.".
that's why Im skeptical

>>1103611

If you're trolling you're really not doing too great a job, and if you're serious then you need to reread the thread.

>>1103637

Well, that's pretty much it. The place *was* sold off, it's owned by a housing company now. The factory itself is utterly huge, it took me 5 hours to explore it and I still missed parts - that's *with* massive swathes of empty floor skipped due to being empty or pitch black (no power for lights and the middle is too far away from the open sides) & pitted floors. I suspect the lab blocks were simply overlooked, and the current owners are a housing development company, they just want to flatten the place and build on it, compared to the profit that makes, any potential sales of misc crap left by the pikey hordes is not worth dicking about with. Happily, pikeys don't seem to know anything about glass except how to smash it, and the spare room is evidence of how effectively they managed that.

>>1103655

Well, what more proof do you want? You've seen the photos, if you want I'll take pics of 'hi /sci/' in the vast decimated factory floors too. The place is a wreck, it's been a lot of work to scavenge what I have from all the various places... the route to lab #2 was like an obstacle course, as the pikeys had nicked the metal staircases that went there.

Other than a few misc piles of crap, generally all that's left on the site is bricks, rusted machines, and broken glass. I presume they just assumed that the lab blocks are the latter, at they certainly look it unless you know what all the various bits are / are worth (even I don't know what it all is yet).

>>1103667
I can see the new property developers not giving a shit about what's in the place or anything else but it's land value. It's the previous (presumably) knowledgeable owners just walking away that fascinates me. I know it happens all the time, just (rhetorically) wondering how they can leave their 'precious'. Where they that pressed for time? A place of this size was obviously a going concern at some point.

>>1103686
Easily the best series of threads I've seen on all of this site. Nice work OP.

>>1103698
'scuse the tripfag, forgot to turn it off from one of those damn Chess threads :)

>>1103644

Sorry, missed your post. If I was that lucky I'd not have lost the first speccy - that was actually sanely sized, even if it was completely inaccessible without a portal gun. The greatest luck so far has been those scales... they're probably worth more than everything else put together. I'll be spending this evening sorting and testing, the scales will be first on the list.

And yes of course I'll keep you updated on the lab, it's looking like it'll actually be in the greenhouse... for one thing it's less flammable. :)

i'm not convinced.. spell "hi /sci/" with some leftover shit/debris on the factory floor to prove you aren't just taking pictures from elsewhere.

>>1103655
now that you mention it..

>>1103686

have you read up on any local history of the factory? if theres a reason why the shit was left there to rot, you may want to know it.

after all, i'd really suck to get accumulated lead poisoning or something due to carelessness.

>>1103720
...did you even look at OPs pic?

fuck it, going to sleep

>>1103698

I'd guess it was pikey'd while being mothballed, prior to sale to the housing company - they usually move in very quickly... I should look into the specific history of the events actually, it should be covered in the newspaper archives.

I will say again however, that I do occasionally add red herrings to the details of these threads to prevent my stash from being either wagonned away or vandalised, but the core is completely accurate. When done I'll clarify/dispel the herrings.

>>1103720

Well, there is the 'postcard' in the opening pic ... but I suppose that might be shoopable. Then again what isn't. Still, I need to explore a few more places anyway, I gather there's a WW2 air raid shelter hidden on the site somewhere, which has evaded me thus far, so I can do it then.

>>1103728

People have been in and out for ages. If there was anything beyond the apparent there then it would have been traced back and the government would have sorted it.

I have made one rather huge mistake however, I've been checking arial maps and realised there's a small cluster of buildings on the opposite side of the site, which are still on the property. No idea what they are are but they may be intact due to their obscure location, I should really have checked maps more carefully first.

I've been checking what I can google up, nothing seems out of the ordinary. Business downturn -> progressive outsourcing -> eventual site closure -> eventual sale. The business is still going, it's not as if liquidators moved in. Maybe the cost of shipping it overseas on final closure (where they must already have the kit they need) was prohibitive. If there were something seriously wrong with the place I'd have found out by now.

>>1103924
Sup. Fell asleep, what have you got nOH MY LORD FOOKIN GOLDMINE.

>>1101333
Yay! Gave you a fist pump for getting the electronic balance. You should just try measuring out some water first to see if it's still in ballpark.

I wouldn't worry about the quantometer 34000 too much. I seriously doubt a uni would be interested, unless they have a museum section.

Is there any writing on the grey telegram box? Pic is blurry :/ Seems to have a control knob on the front - oven maybe? Old ass scales?

>>1101945
I'd say ignore for now. Wouldn't want to throw out your back.

>>1102008
Ident. please

>>1102091
I have no idea, but what is that in the top left of the pic?

>>1102200
I'd say avoid eating canned beans you found there Hornet ;P

>>1102303
Eh, cleaning would be way to laborious

So yeah, I'd say fuck all, doesn't matter too much why they left the stuff, if it was too dangerous, the entire place would be cordoned off and cleaned, as no business would take the risk of civilians getting injured on their property.

Oh yeah, I think some website has the complete history of /sci/, archived or not, I'll post it when I find it so anon can find parts 1-3

Hornet, next, can you take a clear pic of what I circled? Might help clarify its use (and market price hehe) more.

Finally, take a push broom. Be nice to not walk on glass I presume.

>>1103933
Welcome back :)

>>1103974
Will do. The uni I'm thinking of might still want it, age regardless, I found a printout it'd made and it was incredibly detailed. I'll post my copies of the threads later, they're not lost.

That's just a broken seperating funnel. I'll take a photo when next there yes, and there are brooms there. However, one neat pathway in what looks like a bombsite will make anyone else exploring look around for what's being / been liberated, which I don't want... I'm probably being overcautious given the time it's survived already, but still, no point taking chances.

Bump for /sci/, gotta go... :(

Remember kids, archive this.

Dear god that is a goldmine of science right there.

Sorry if this is a late rply, but I just read through the entire thread, I would kill to have your acessibility to the stuff you have gotten.

Best of luck to you OP, you better be using all of this for something great :D

Bumping. I've read all your Lab threads except the first one and I must say this is fucking awesome!

Keep at it OP!!

bum p to share the awesme

given all this equipment i can't understand why you wouldn't make meth and sell it

page 14 bump

>>1098352
Bump because this looks fucking cool

>>1101439
Impure, possibly, but 'mind bogglingly dangerous' is a false statement. I've used 6M HCl to get copper oxide off my hands before with no ill effects. Just don't let them sit on your skin for extended periods and wear safety glasses.

>>1101774
multi-neck round bottoms are a synthetic chemists best friend.

>>1102194
Chromatography column. Google silica gel flash chormatography. That thing looks like it would separate about 2 to 3 grams of material.

I am feeling a stupid jealousy on you OP.

Then again, I'd be too much of a pussy to go in an abandoned factory.

>>1102364
that does look to me a magnetic stirrer, but it could just as easily be a hot plate. in either case it is useful so long as it works.
>>1102358
don't bother grabbing a manifold unless you intend to get a tank of argon or nitrogen to go with it. You would also need a drying tube if you want to set it up right. On the other side, if you run a vacuum line you can hook directly to the flask through a cold trap.

>>1108087
He found HF in there, fairly mind-bogglingly dangerous to someone inexperienced in handling it.

"mind-bogglingly" passes spell check. Awesome.

In the off chance OP is still awake, if you are looking to sell stuff you can get price information from any laboratory glass vendors website. My favorites are wilmad for specialty pieces (columns and such) and sigma aldrich for common things (round bottoms and Erlenmeyer flasks).

>>1108168
HF is a special case because it is acts like a gas. I just object to the generalization that all chemicals are dangerous. It is a myth perpetuated by the skittish and uninformed. I don't advise taking the same level of bravado exhibited by Barry Sharpless, but irrational fear is just that, irrational.

bump for glass?

That's it, tomorrow, I'm going back to the abandoned water park in my area, and an abandoned bar/beauty salon/ballroom. Don't expect to ever find anything this awesome, but fuck it, I CAN DREAM.

>>1104795

Sadly my science ability is currently pretty lacking - but I'm a rapid learner, and used to be very good at it in school, so let's see. :)

>>1104813

Ty. :)

>>1105677

I know what meth does to people? I don't want any part of that.

>>1108087

I found a lot more than HCl, this is the compilation of all the cupboard inventories & interesting labels I could see from lab #2. Would you want industrial-size bottles of 40% hydroflouric and 70% perchloric sat in your house? :\ I'm aware that not all chemicals are dangerous, obviously, I have taken some safe ones already (mostly metal powders).

Not sure what an metals lab would be using synthetic chemistry equipment for, but hey. Maybe someone was moonlighting. :)

>>1108175

I'm aware of those sites, thanks. I use them at the moment to try to identify kit, but later I'll use them for prices too... going to be a fun moment when I hit the 'autosum' button. £_£ As I say I have no plans to sell anything in the immediate future, I'd hate to sell something then find that I needed it.

>>1108553

Best of luck. Avoid bird crap, it's evil for the lungs, and take a multitool. I've been caught before by a door that auto-closed, and lacked a doorhandle on the inside. Without a gerber that would have been fun ... I've have probably had to knock the hingepins out.

You'll probably find a lot of glass in a bar/ballroom, admittedly not this kind, but still. Proper glasses can be worth a lot, so best of luck. :)

Forgot to mention, next raid will be tomorrow evening. I'm indisposed today, and frankly have run out of floorspace in the spare room, I need to reorganise... also need a load of boxes. Will have to go around the local shoe-shops and ask for some.

Also, not wanting to sound pretentious, but you might want to archive this thread. If nothing else it'll help prevent me needing to repeat myself in future threads. :)

Pic unrelated.