/sci/ - Science & Math

>Top mathematician writes an entire book about shoving balls into a box

>>11013206
but that example has obvious practical uses?

>>11013206
it will have practical applications in ~2000 years, like primes

>>11013206
You do math for the sake of math. It's usually everyone else who benefits from their work. Ages ago some Austrian mathematician spent some time working out how you could solve the inverse problem of a volume being integrated over through linear slices - i.e. how you could infer the volume and boundary from multiple slices. Turns out that's exactly what you need for 3D CT algorithms.

Also, I know this is bait.

>>11013206
Because math isn't about usefulness.

Also, as an aside, the developments from 1870-1930 that led to the universal computer where max-level autistic philosophy concerns - so the "what would be useful" approach is limited either way

>>11013217
Oh yes, the possibilities are endless

>>11013206
>useless and trifling problems as this?
and what isn't? leave them alone. they are doing what they like and enjoy. why are you such a hateful asshole?
I don't criticize you for mindlessly smoking, drinking, and fucking. manly because your existence is not very important to me, so you're hardly ever considered in my mind. Most of the time my concerns are purely within math.
>>11013223
>You do math for the sake of math
lovely. Math is beautiful, it's more analogous to an art. Have you read a mathematicians apology by G.H. Hardy?
>>11013228
lovely, I love you anon. Thanks for backing up math.

>>11013253
>I don't criticize you for mindlessly smoking, drinking, and fucking.

Well as a whatevercel who has never engaged in either of those other activities that would make no sense. But I'm saying shouldn't our best minds be putting themselves to the test of pushing humanity forward, not figuring out how to rotate a stick around some pointy hallways.

>>11013206
Life is a useless and trifling problem.

>>11013278
Juicy!

>>11013269
no. they are doing what they want. it can be great now, great later, or never really mattered. It doesn't matter.
pushing humanity forward is a vague and opinion-based idea.
tell me anon, what is the perfection of humanity in your eyes?
industrial advancement is mundane in my eyes. I study math but could care less about how math could be applied to aid industry.
I'm not a fucking slave, I work simply to experience the beauty of mathematics.
the external world hardly means anything.
What are YOU doing for forwarding humanity. It's something YOU care about, so do it.
stop expecting people that are smarter than you to serve for you.
>>11013278
based.
art and beauty keeps us sane. OP should grow up and read a fucking book for once. I bet he wants to fly to space and conquer it.

>>11013206
They don't dedicate their life to these "ridiculous" problems. They dedicate their hobby time. When you're watching "Rick and Morty" and thinking your IQ has increased by 10, mathematicians are working on creative and fun problems like this to pass their days.

>>11013307
>hen you're watching "Rick and Morty" and thinking your IQ has increased by 10

Can we stop with the stupid "guy I just made up in my head" posts already?

>>11013206
Mathematical optimisation, if they find a generalizable way to solve this then they can apply that technique to anything

>>11013206
When imagining for example a shapeshifting robot that could be built in the future i can see something like this coming in handy.

>>11013311
While your jerking off to scat porn, some people enough exercising their minds instead. Why is it their job to stratify you? they aren't the 2$ hookers you bought off the internet. Do it yourself pussy, they aren't your mom, who you still live with.
Unlike your mother and blowjobs, mathematicians care about things beyond your cash. Money cannot buy the glorious experience of math. it's a limited resource, time, so to spend it on your wet dreams is a waste of effort.

>>11013206
autism

>>11013206
you sounds like that gretin thunderberg girl everyone is talking about. big cringe, stub your toe loser.

>>11013234
Mechanical engineering utilizes these types of shapes all the time for specialized systems. You should see some of the insane gears that come from this type of navel-gazing

>>11013206
It seems that the solutions to such problems could have uses in logistics etc.

>>11013206
>I don't need rocket science!
>Why should anyone need it?

>>11013206
imagine this problem in 3 dimensions or generalizing to n dimensions, generalizing the shape of the corridor to any shape

>>11013206
Mathtards like falling for bait because it makes them feel acknowledged lol.

>>11013357
Jesus christ stop getting.g high off your own facts.

>>11013206
What the fuck? How did he figure this out? How do I learn how to do this? This is amazing.

>>11013253
Do you always post in threads like this?

>>11013217
Yes, and that is why the OP is bait.

>>11013217
>>11013206
>instead of using hinges or other moving parts which require maintenance, let's just make the object super weak instead

>>11013223
>You do math for the sake of math. It's usually everyone else who benefits from their work.
And they absolutely cannot handle that they keep coming back. They bite the hand that feeds them. But we don't care. We are just happy doing what we love.

>>11015818
>>11013223
>You do math for the sake of math.

Nothing is ever for the sake of itself.

>>11015867
what do you mean?
>>11015818
engineers are like starving, orphan infants...annoying cries that must be stopped.

>>11015867
Actually true, we are doing math for a multitude of different reasons. Many of which go over the heads of most people, either in process or end. Among them are pleasure and long term betterment of the human species.

>>11015914
>long term betterment of the human species.
speak for yourself.
I could care less about the betterment of the human species.

>>11015938
>I could care less about the betterment of the human species.
Then you are filth. Like most.

>>11016073
Why would you care about a species that currently has women like >>11015938 pleasuring the penises of men who are not like you?

I mean, statistically, the people that get the most pussy are rappers and rockstars. Why should you create a better world just for other people to have more efficient ways to have their penises pleasured while you suffer?

>>11016073
A filth lord? why? what is the fact that shows I should care about your own personal ideations?
>>11016101
Kek'd
>are rappers and rockstars.
and rapist
>Why should you create a better world just for other people to have more efficient ways to have their penises pleasured while you suffer?
funny, but odds are that anon imagines a society that makes him personally happy.
But one where I should suffer for doing what I enjoy.
He clearly has no disciple or ethic. just a coomer, cooming to his own thoughts of happiness. Like a bird in a cage that dreams of being free, instead of finding an alternative outlet so that its slavery isn't a tragedy.

>>11013206
because things like this are the only way that god has ever spoken to humans

>>11015914
People do shit like math for competition, proving a point, work, money, sex, to provide for their loved ones,because they have to or they want. Maybe they hated their field initially and then learned to like it or the reverse of they loved their field and got bewared of it and changed to something else.

Stop trying to make this shit seem like some higher calling type of rhetoric.

>>11013380
this but unironically

>>11016130
one should really practice asceticism in life.
>>11016181
rude. I don't think i'm autistic.

>>11016101
So you want me to stop?
>>11016120
Rarely I encounter projection this intense.
>odds are that anon imagines a society that makes him personally happy.
Yes, but not only me. You as well. Is it so awful of a fantasy?
>But one where I should suffer for doing what I enjoy.
No. I wish happiness for fools like you too. The only thing you accomplish with this is to make it clear that you do not wish the same for me.
>He clearly has no discipline or work ethic
Makes sense I am doing mathematics then, which clearly takes no effort at all.
>Like a bird in a cage that dreams of being free, instead of finding an alternative outlet so that its slavery isn't a tragedy.
Sad that you feel this way. I am sure there's something you can do about it.
>>11016130
>Stop trying to make this shit seem like some higher calling type of rhetoric.
You don't seem to understand. It's not a rhetoric. I am not trying to convince you of anything. It's just what I think. There is no argument.

The thing is, what I enjoy benefits you. Embrace it. Why are you fighting it? That's my point here.

>>11013206
This is actually super practical, it’s just that math is studying very basic underlying foundations so it will seem elementary (which it is). It turns out that elementary things are not easily described, not if we want to fully understand them.

>>11016234
>Yes, but not only me. You as well. Is it so awful of a fantasy?
no, just pointing out that you goals are only for you. So I don't care about them, because I have my own.
as do you, probably.
>The only thing you accomplish with this is to make it clear that you do not wish the same for me.
yes, but not in a malicious manner. I simply don't care if you suffer or dance in glee. Because I don't care about you. Obviously it's not personal, it's exactly that, non-personal.
>Makes sense I am doing mathematics then, which clearly takes no effort at all.
good to hear. I enjoy it too. What I said was in jest, don't take it seriously anon ;)
Sad that you feel this way. I am sure there's something you can do about it.
yes, It is no longer a tragedy. What did freedom really matter? how could I have know it was good if all I knew was slavery? it's irrelevant either way. really we are just being slaves to our minds and expectations, we are free and infinite when it comes to our thought.
what if my goals were to stop yours. if your's include mine then how could it work?
not everything moves in the same way.
I like what I do, and I care for nothing else.
>>11016242
not embracing nor really fighting. Just don't care. Suck my cock if you want and I might like it but I didn't ask, and I wouldn't have cared if you didn't.

>>11016258
>what if my goals were to stop yours.
Try to not have destructive goals. At least when possible. There is no apparent good reason for anyone to stop my goals unless they want destruction for destructions sake. I know it might sound naive or dishonest, but that's at least the kind of goals I aspire to have. And I believe you should too.
>if your's include mine then how could it work?
I didn't say they necessarily do.
>not everything moves in the same way.
Evidently.

>>11016258
>T. Nifag