/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10999635
do you have a copy of the actual version they submitted?

all i've seen is a few of their papers, and there was one about quantum groups that looked like it had some semi-decent stuff in it, probably spoonfed to them by Majid since it looks like exactly his kind of stuff, but they drew some really loony conclusions from it. their work on the big bang singularity is pretty nonsense handwaving though, and there are some other places in their writings where there is completely bogus crap, like where they say something deep-sounding about foucault pendula, but it's totally unrelated to what they're doing and they use it to make some super-woo sounding claims that are like "because foucault pendula don't precess on the north pole, therefore by analogy we conjecture ..." where the conjecture is some super deep-sounding jargony quantum groups thing. it's obvious nonsense

anyhow if anybody wants to go over one of their papers or some pages from their thesis, post a link and i'd be happy to go over it. it's pretty hilarious but at the same time they are doing some fancy QFT/string-esque group theory stuff

post some excerpts so we can try to explain it

>>10999635
Never mind the thesis, what the hell was wrong with their face that makes them think they look better today in any way shape or form?

>>10999635
>>11001097
Wait... They are actual people? Here I was thinking they were just weirdly photoshopped.

>>11001126
Not only are they actual people, they run the universe from the shadows

>>11000764
wait the bogdanoff meme is actually grounded in reality?

>>11001138
Yeah. They study weirdly bizarre concepts, are weirdly wealthy, are weirdly politically connected, and are weirdly famous. Either they run the universe or they won the conspiracy lottery.

>>10999635
Nothing. We low IQ subhumans can only hope to understand their wisdom.

>>11001141
kek

>>10999635
This bomber jacket picture of these two Bogoffs is 100% based on and/or shooped from a picture of Elaine and her mom which is (was?) on the mantle above the fire place at that house on Vermack Ridge. I guess the guy moved out of the house on Vermack (Wermacht), and I noticed they renamed the church on Chamblee-Dunwoody from Calvary Chapel (Calvary something?) to some other name.

There is a picture I've seen of Elaine of her mom which is the absolute spitting likeness of this pic of these two Bogoffs here. That's Elaine on the right and her mom on the left. It is undeniably!

>>11001126
They didn't always look that crazy. They've both had a bunch of botched plastic surgery.

>>11001612
Who's Elaine?

>>11001141
Epstein was into that stuff as well. Its kind of what Alex Jones was trying to say about the elites they are into finding all knowledge

>>11001650
One time I was reading about some place on the darknet where you could buy women with their arms and legs cut off that you could get still get pregnant though. I made a post about how that was not good and you shouldn't do that sort of thing. Then the next time I saw Elaine after that, she said to me weirdly, "Yeah, ok! I'm going to close my office then </sarcasm>"

>>11001612
your posts read like the weekly spam I get to my university email. Last time I checked it out they were saying SEGA Genesis had something to do with the antichrist and the end of the world.

I saw this movie Bone Tomahawk (10/10) not too long after that. It definitely had a meme in it.

>>11001718
>>11001701
have you seen a doctor lately?

>>11001717
If you could see that picture of Elaine and her mom, probably really both two trannies who are really biological males, then I think you would agree with me that the likeness of this bomber jacket photo to that other photo is unmistakable.

The faces, the facial expressions, the contours of the mouths and eyes especially, the relative heights of the the two parties, the angling of their two bodies... everything: this bomber jacket is a meme of that other photo.

>>11001719
Are you sure you didn't want to tell me to leave Earth again?

>>11001718
Ive had that movie recommended to me several times now. I will take yours to heart though and download immediately
>>11001723
Picture made me kek

>>11001736
>>11001718

=/ my torrent site has no seeds
do you have a link to it streaming?

>>10999635
Quick rundown:
>Rothschilds bow to Bogdanoffs
>In contact with aliens
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader's first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they're benevolent beings.

>>11001723
your allegation that their photo was based on this weird picture of your tranny friend and her mom is ridiculous though. How would they have seen the picture?

>>11001843
My speculation is that this bomber jacket photo is a shoop of that other photo.

>>11001848
yes but how did they acquire a copy of your photo?

>>11001851
My speculation is that the reason the Bogoffs' faces are all fucked up is not (totally?) due to botched surgery but rather because different people wear Bogoff masks to present themselves as the Bogoffs in public. Therefore, it's not that they acquired the photo; it's that the people in that photo wear the Bogoff disguises at times.

>>10999635
>their thesis

>>11001097
>>11001126
>>11001138
Plastic surgery addiction. But don’t ever bother trying to tell an addict they have a problem

>>10999635
Before.
On thier bill nye like show

Anyone have the pic of when anon caught them on a train platform in France?

>>11001963
wait what?

>>10999635
The Bognadoffs are infallible.

>>11002317
They aren't.

The old book by the cover trick.

did someone say book?

>>11002885
Is this your larping as a girl pen name? Should I brush aside the infinite star wars and read this detritus? I never onow why ambiguity is so in vogue.

>>10999635
>Can I get
It doesn't look like you can.

>>11002938
This is actually my real name and Jon is just my English name (also real), and it is a man's name. Ending with an A means "girl" in the Romance languages, usually, but not so in Hebrew. Arcón is the title of the Governor of Jerusalem (who was at times also the King of Judah and the King of Israel), and Gedalia was the last person to hold that office before the Babylonian captivity began. I hold that office today, that's why I have that name and also why they call me El Arcón.

Man, seriously. If you like fiction, I believe that you will like this fun and fast-paced book. Like star wars with light-sabers and the force, my genre combines elements of sci-fi and fantasy. You will like it. I am quite proud of it.

>>11003147
Your words ring bells. I read the comic book called the bible. Where can I properly purchase so you get paid? Shill me!

>>11003180
amazon com/Weather-Vane-Gedalia-Gershon/dp/1723762806/

I will see in my sales dashboard if you buy one and I will be glad.

>>11003206
Alright dude. My other half does Amazon. You will see soon.

>>10999635
>We propose in this research a new solution regarding the existence and the content of the initial spacetime singularity. In the context of topological field theory we consider that the initial singularity of space-time corresponds to a zero size singular gravitational instanton characterized by a Riemannian metric configuration (++++) in dimension D = 4.
Connected with some unexpected topological data corresponding to the zero scale of space-time, the initial singularity is thus not considered in terms of divergences of physical fields but can be resolved in the frame of topological field theory. We get this result from the physical observation that the pre-spacetime is in a thermal equilibrium at the Planck scale. Therefore it should be subject to the KMS condition.
We consequently consider that this KMS state might correspond to a unification between "physical state" (Planck scale) and "topological state" (zero scale). Then it is suggested that the "zero scale singularity" can be understood in terms of topological invariants, in particular the first Donaldson invariant.
Therefore, we here introduce a new topological index, connected with 0 scale, of the form Z = Tr (-1)s, which we call "singularity invariant". Interestingly, this invariant corresponds also to the invariant topological current yield by the hyperfinite II* von Neumann algebra describing the zero scale of space-time. In such a context we conjecture that the problem of inertial interaction might be explained in terms of topological amplitude connected with the singular zero size gravitational instanton corresponding to the initial singularity of spacetime.

>>11004281
sounds like nonsense. Their "singularity invariant" looks like a carbon copy of the Witten index, and the rest just seems to be some loosely connected terms with no real coherent meaning. For example, what does it mean to be "in thermal equilibrium at the planck scale?" Either you're in thermal equilibrium or you're not...

Also, why would there be a "zero-size" instanton AT the singularity? The instanton location and size are free parameters in any field theory defined on a homogenous spacetime.

>>11004281
basically a rewrite of my first paper that I wrote back in 2009. Hey! Who remember the bogoffs existing before I wrote my paper? If Mossad Fonseca can change the timestamps of financial documentation in the Panama Papers, they can definitely falsify internet timestamps which aren't required by law to accurate, as far as I can tell. This is my first paper:
>Modified Spacetime Geometry Addresses Dark Energy, Penrose's Entropy Dilemma, Baryon Asymmetry, Inflation and Matter Anisotropy
>http://www.vixra.org/abs/1302.0022

It's obvious that the whole thing about connecting the Planck scale to the zero scale is exactly what I was writing about.

>>11004610
I thought you'd agree that their work is nonsense but instead you take credit for it

>>11004975
It might be nonsense, I never read it. My conjecture is merely that Baez started spamming Bogoffs in 2010 to distract from the highly equivalent idea I had distributed around my university and online only a few months earlier in late 2009.

the run the world

>>11001126
They photoshopped themselves IRL

>>11001097
>>11001126
They're like 98 years old btw.

>>11004610
>no attempt at quantification is made.
I didn't realize this was allowed.

>>11001887
Did you get this thesis approved?

>>11004302
good post

>>10999635
You cannot understand the thesis. It's impossible for you.

>>11001796
/thread

>>11005269
Yes, qualitative and quantitative analyses are both allowed. Not every paper is making computations.

>>11005273
I am not a degree seeking person so there is no thesis as which which my paper could serve.

>>11006158
So did anyone check your claims and agree with them? Any journal?

>>10999635
>Can I get a quick rundown on what was wrong with their thesis? Specifics would be appreciated.

Their thesis is better than an average thesis is. It is speculative, but then we are talking about Planck scale physics here. Read this for details:

https://motls.blogspot.com/2005/06/bogdanoff-papers.html

They want to resolve the initial singularity of the Universe - a very difficult question
They open a good question whether the signature of spacetime is allowed to fluctuate
They conclude that it can
Near the origin of time, they know that they are in the Planckian regime
They propose a new relation between this Planckian regime and the "zero scale" regime
The zero scale regime is described by a topological field theory
They even define what the right observables should be - and in my opinion, this is one of the punch lines that shows that they're either pretty smart or someone helped them: the observables are replaced by homology cycles on the moduli space of gravitational instantons; are you sure that this won't be the ingenious final explanation of the origin time in the geometric language that we will understand in 2030? I am not sure - it could well be an extension of the ideas of quantum foam from topological string theory
They show a lot of formulae - many of them apparently being correct basic formulae copied from elsewhere - involving quantum groups, Lagrangians of N=2 supergravity, Donaldson theory, KMS states, topological field theory, various index-like invariants etc.
They thank the right people, including C. Kounnas and S. Majid (a co-father of quantum groups). One of the acknowledgements that could have determined the fate of the paper was thanking to Edward Witten for "some determinant conversations" and it appears in the last sentence; otherwise the paper can't be classified as a string theory paper

>>11006213
I don't know if anyone checked and agreed. Every journal I sent it to rejected it, and even arXiv rejected it with the excuse "no original scholarly content."

>>11006215
>it could well be an extension of the ideas of quantum foam from topological string theory
I can tell you for sure that when people engaged in plagiarism-like activities to rebrand my research with their own new content appended, they were definitely using "spin foams" as the label. Particularly: when that talk given in October 2009 at LSU, just after I published in September 2009, was "accidentally" misdated to October 2008, and then out of several archive files of the physics talks at LSU, only the one with the mis-dated spin foams talk was "coinceidentally removed," that talk was given about "spin foams."

I detail all of this at length in my free book, Section 3.2 (pic rel):
>The General Relevance of the Modified Cosmological Model
>http://www.vixra.org/abs/1712.0598

>>11001796
Based and Bogpilled

>>11001961
Much better despite the fact that it looks like they already had some touch ups.

>>11001796
You misspelled "Bog Bang".