/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10994833
Is it gay to fuck your clone in the butt?

>>10994838
No, it's more like masturbation. It should be illegal, however, to do it while they're underage. Cloning should be an 18 year investment.

>>10994838
It's incest

>>10994844
technically the clone has the same age as his owner. The clone might look like a kid but his DNA is old so there is no such thing as ''underage clone''

>>10994851
That's a loophole, we should measure physical age by bone growth and brain development over DNA age.

>>10994833
I predict it will become affordable before it becomes legal

>>10994833
only the one in the middle is good looking
you can't clone such subtlety

>>10995145
I love that I grew up in this time.

A clone wouldn't a second version of (You) but an entirely different person with their own memories and personality who just shares your DNA. Having sex with your clone or harvesting your clone for body parts or whatever you psychopaths want to do with it would probably be very illegal.

Personality I'd be curious to see how my clone would turn out after being raised in an ideal environment in regards to parenting, nutrition, education, physical activity, etc.

>>10994833
I am more interested in selective insemination. Fabricate a fetus using the best genetics from both parents.

>>10994833
>i want to clone myself and have sex with my clone but i need to know something first.
>Can you make your clone female or your clone takes your XY genes too? i dont want to do gay stuff,no thx
Strictly speaking, clones could not be of the opposite sex.
Clones share all of their DNA; if two people are of the opposite sex, one would have two X chromosomes while the other has one X and one Y.
However, you could get very close to clones if the female "clone" has two copies of the male's X chromosome.
The only genetic difference would be that the male has a Y chromosome that the female does not.
Proceeding with the answer from this point, the offspring would not be genetically identical to the clone parents. You have two copies of each of your genes: one from each parent.
If your two copies are exactly the same, you are homozygous for that gene; if you have two slightly different versions, you are heterozygous for that gene.
Let's say that a certain gene has alleles (gene versions) "A" and "a" for a certain gene.
If the clone parents are homozygous (they have "AA" or "aa"), then their offspring would be the same for that gene.
However, if the clone parents are heterozygous (they have "Aa"), the baby could have "AA", "Aa", or "aa".
In other words, the baby of the "clones" could be different from the parents at the genes where the parents are heterozygous.
This baby would not be a clone.
The one circumstance in which the offspring would be genetically identical to the "clone" parents would be if the parents were homozygous at every single gene.

>>10995368
Though...it IS actually possible to actually clone yourself if you fuck a perfect female clone of yourself or viseversa.
In fact the odds would be 1 in 1,388,608, due to the human genome being diploid.
To explain more fully; your genome consists of 23 pairs of chromosomes (46 in total).
When you reproduce you pass on just one of each of these pairs of chromosomes to your offspring, and the other comes from the other parent.
So let's look at your genome and the genome of your identical clone (of the opposite gender) with whom you wish to produce a clone child.
We'll ignore the difficulty of the sex chromosomes for the moment and just look at chromosome 1.
You have two copies of chromosome 1 in your genome, which we will call A and B, giving you the genotype AB.
Your opposite gender clone also has the genotype AB.
When the two of you breed you produce a simple punnet square of possible outcomes:
-An A from you and an A from your clone produces a child with genotype AA.
-An A from you and a B from your clone produces a child with genotype AB.
-A B from you and an A from your clone produces a child with genotype AB.
-A B from you and a B from your clone producess a child with genotype BB.
That without counting O or rhesus.

Put more simply you would produce a child with the same AB genotype as yourself only half the time (ignoring the very rare chance of trisomy occuring).
These odds would then have to be repeated for every one of the 23 chromosome pairs in your genome, making the odds of you producing a clone of yourself by mating with yourself 1 in 2^23 = 1 in 1,388,608.

I read somewhere they sell pigs for that. With human antigens etc.

>>10995368
>>10995377

>>10995368
nerd

>>10994845
What's the problem?

>>10995377
During meiosis the chromosomes exchange segments and recombine, so the odds are actually about one in never happening. Also a lot of our features are epigenetic or entirely environmental during development, with embryology being picky enough that a lot if it may as well be random chance.

>>10994833
Only white males 6'4 and taller, with platinum blond hair or red hair and a muscular build should ever be cloned. There are already at least 7 billion on the planet who do not possess these rare and wonderful genetics.

>>10995761
so...in theory we cannot essencially copy ourselves but make something really close.
but can we make a better and more upgraded version of ourselves?.

>>10995368
>>10995377
>mfw we are literally discussing a feasible way to fuck ourselves
We must go deeper

>>10996519
We have to go deeper, indeed

How feasible would be that you were born out of yourself? As in, a perfect female clone of your was impregnated with an embryo of your DNA

>>10994833
Why?

>>10997601
cuz no girls wants to have sex with me

>>10997579
high if you used in-vitro fertilization and manipulated the genes, which will be easy.
maybe even apply eugenics to create a better copy of yourself.

>>10995839
>Only white males 6'4 and taller, with platinum blond hair or red hair and a muscular build should ever be cloned.
we should also use eugenics.

>>10994833
In about three years and fifty days.

Why would anyone ever clone a Mexican?

>>10995839
You basically described the roster of the all stars down at the local sperm bank

>>10995839
>Only white males 6'4 and taller, with platinum blond hair or red hair and a muscular build should ever be cloned.
Imagine all the homo sex.

>>10998230
for testing.
human experimentation.

>>10998242
people are more closely related thanks to that.
I wonder if more than once some people married without thinking that they were half-siblings.

>>10997579
The odds would be 2^23