/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10994364
Attempted evolutionary psychology, adapted to a more modern reference frame.

>>10994364
I think it's just natural. It's also pretty fucked that we've known this for a long while but we still offer no treatment for the sexless. And then we ponder about why some teen/20 something shot up a fucking Walmart.

>>10994398
the treatment is to legalise prostitution or to enforce strict monogamy and no sex before marriage

>>10994402

Or just bar women from education.

>>10994402
It's not even that. Where I live prostitution is legal, so you may think that I explain the incel question by pointing to how it is illegal in the United States. But I think there is something more. First, with prostitution comes a free market where certain physical attributes demand different prices. If you are middle class you can afford an escort as hot as you want. But what if you are poor? You are just pushing the incel question down to poor people, which are still the majority.

Second, prostitutes can finally fill that first level of needs but will not let them go beyond the second. "Sexual intimacy" is just impossible with an escort, even if the high-end ones do try to work on that side too. We all know what the final solution to the incel question is. Someone just has to say it.

Why do normies think sex is a survival necessity?

>>10994416
>We all know what the final solution to the incel question is. Someone just has to say it.

>>10994416
There isn't really a solution without going full on global state socialism and making sex a human right. Some people will be unable to reproduce and to form such relationships - it's natural selection.

>>10994402
What about a law about required sex during marriage?
>>10994422
>>10994427
VR

>>10994427
You can still fund a GSG (Government-subsidized girlfriends) program in a capitalist country. In fact, it is preferable. Girlfriends will be provided according to market rates.

>Some people will be unable to reproduce and to form such relationships - it's natural selection.

But we've had this problem countless times before. A small group of outcasts grow into a big group of outcasts and then kills everyone else. If you think about it, WW2 happened because "Some people will be unable to be as successful is business and form such wealth - it's natural selection", and then Hitler naturally selected gas into their chambers. I honestly fear the Incel Reich.

>>10994438
Why do you think Jews are so smart? The dumb ones got caught and died. The smart ones survive and their population is constantly getting thinned.

>>10994447
Yes, natural selection is important but you should remember this: If young men start dropping out of the societal structures you created, it is because they plan to build their own.

But you bring up a good point. We can either ease the pressures on incels by providing girlfriends, or we can do an incel holocaust: Any man who by 18 has not had sex will be set into the gas chambers. This is also a valid solution, but I like mine better because I could then become a profitable trader at the New York Girlfriend Exchange. Turning women into commodities would be amazing.

>>10994438
Prostitution would be available even to poor men as there would be someone with low enough standards as a result of being ugly to offer such services also intimate relationships would inevitably follow as enforced monogamy prevents hypergamous behaviours and as long as there is an equal sex ratio there will be a woman for every man and vice versa.


but we still are claiming that sex is essential - in the past it was common for young men to not have such experiences as they went off to fight or do something else. also certain members of society would remain celibate for religious purposes. I believe a large part of the incel mindset isnt actually a result of atypical beliefs, but it is a overreaction to a social experience. the incels follow the same whims and have the same goals as normies and require social approval and want to be popular and overvalue basal experiences. the incels that are dangerous are the ones I just described (nuerotypical and average or low iq but has some physical or mental defect or illness). the incels (volcels) that aren't dangerous are the ones that are essentially asexual monkmoders

>>10994457
>trading women as commodities

Whatever you say, imam Epstein

>>10994462
>enforced monogamy
This is the key to why your plan won't even work. Do you really think that you can force attractive young people to not fuck? It won't work and never did. This is why in the past kids got married very young, but this is not Kosher anymore because we need those kids to go to college and educate themselves enough to become accountants and shit. The low IQ economy is dead.

>>10994464
It's funny because you know that was his dream. Regardless, I have always thought like this. The way men interact with women is so unnatural. If you think about it, the way you court women into sucking your dick is exactly the way you court investors into giving you money. Women are not really people in the same way men are people because they demand many exchanges in a way men never do. But women:

>Have intrinsic fiat value in the eyes of men
>Can be "loaned" to produce constant cash flows
>Could be "sold" (married) to other men as collateral in other more complex investments

Etc. So why aren't women publicly traded? This has always been the one thing that sticks out in economics. Women are commodities no matter which definition of commodity you employ. So why aren't women publicly traded? Seriously, answer this question.

>>10994457
perhaps excess male populations could trigger a conscription law and would maintain the stability of marriage. although this won't account for the opposite effect where there are surplus women - equally bad because of the single mother problem.

of course this is all just conjecturing about biopolitics, it is verging on /x/- type thinking to believe we can describe, model, and predictably change a social system in the same way we can for a physical or mathematical one

>>10994480
Funny that you mention the single mother question. Do you think we could solve the incel and single mother questions by assigning one single mother to each incel? As you say, incels are really the bottom of society. What natural selection is currently holocausting. So why don't we at least use their manpower for raising our kids, and in exchange we give them the vaginas of old used-up single mothers? Not like they can tell the difference.

The west has been saved.

>>10994478
because of pair bonding and mirror neurons.

as for the consequences, I expect trading them would be about as profitable as trading used infinitis (car). of course, it is inevitable that in a super state system that biopolitics would be invoked using machine learning to grow and pair humans for mating and to direct them to hereditary social roles won only by inheritance or a superior candidate is available. like feudal society but crossed with Krypton

>>10994497
>machine learning to assign mates
Now you are thinking with portals.

>>10994488
single mothers are already broken. the solution is to prevent divorces. although it may actually be better than nothing

one obstacle I have just remembered is the social welfare issue. there's a good paper on women's suffrage and the size and scope of the state. it claims that women vote for policies as a sort of insurance policy if their providers the males are incapable or abandon them. welfare and women's access to earn capital means that women may no longer find men economically attractive and get stuck in hypergamy femcel mode until they shrivel up and become a cat lady

>>10994507
>the solution is to prevent divorces
Good luck with that without going back to full theocracy. I guess I don't care if this is the case, but I see no direct benefit for me in this so it's not like I'll be campaigning for it. I'd much rather be trading women.

>one obstacle I have just remembered is the social welfare issue.

Yeah, welfare was a mistake. But it is an argument in my favor. If we can give economic welfare to supply breathing, food, water, homeostasis and excretion, where is the economic welfare to supply sex to incels?

>>10994516
the minimum would be the legalisation of prostitution and then poor people just spend a portion of their welfare on sex

as for the welfare of distribution and redistribution, this should only happen to correct errors where efficiency is wasted by not allowing good genes and people to thrive. people who have limited potential would receive less welfare.

from each according to his abilities, to each according to his potential

>>10994527
and to followup. we are assuming that we must provide for the needs of people who are worse off. and if we provide only for the potential then we avoid inefficient distribution and redistribution.

the next driving factor for welfare of preventing incel shootings is more complex and if done through welfare would require a psychological and criminological assessment (in other words they would be assessed whether or not they were an incel and if they are one they would be treated in whatever way is necessary)

but avoiding the issue of enforcing marriage is a problem because it is a big driving factor in poorly provided for and socialised children (must be socialised with rough and tumble play and games before age 4 or theres no fixing it).

>>10994364
>Maslow
>Marxist Jew
>Invents ''hierarchy of needs'' promoting sex outside marriage to weaken the family and society
>Fastforward to today
>Pic related
>Pure coincidence

>>10994364