/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10974295
Seriously why is there so much fucking coursework? How the actual fuck are you supposed to do this? There's only 24 hours in a day. It's like you have to actually be a fast learner or you won't be able to do it finish in time before the next. Is this just natural selection at work?

>chemical engineering
lol, why would you do anything with "engineering" in the name it's a waste of time

>>10974298
>I heard engineers make good money!!!

>>10974305
It's always this. They're always retards who picture doctors or lawyers when they hear the word "engineer."

>>10974298
It's basically the "default" degree to get for directionless people, other than maybe business.

>>10974305
>>10974306
Yeah but doctors and lawyers (in America) need an undergraduate and then a further 3+ years. If you have a PhD in a field of engineering and are actually good you can make $200K.

>>10974310
It depends on the kind of engineer and how far you educate yourself. Petroleum engineers make bank but it's a hard job away from your family for long periods of time and youre in the middle of nowhere.

Bachelors
>Math/Stats $62823
>Computer Science $68103
>Computer Engineering $68778
>Petroleum Engineering $84160

Masters
>Math/Stats $84100
>Computer Science $82275
>Computer Engineering $82133
>Petroleum Engineering - No responses

PhD
>Math/Stats $102000
>Computer Science $103833
>Computer Engineering $105000
>Petroleum Engineering - No responses

Source: https://careerservices.wayne.edu/pdfs/2019-nace-salary-survey-winter.pdf

>>10974310
>If you have a PhD in a field of engineering and are actually good you can make $200K.
Fucking lol. It's time to go out into the real world kid.

>>10974298
>lol, why would you be interested in making stuff

>>10974320
Obviously not instantly but after 10-20 years of experience yeah. I know several engineers who make that much. Sorry you're poor ignorant uneducated and angry.

>>10974315
>>10974310
Average (mean) Engineering starting salaries:
Bachelors: 69k
Masters: 82k
Doctorate: 102k

If you figure 20k a year for post-bachelors schooling and 4% average pay increases, then it takes about 25 years to break even. Hopefully it's a career you enjoy.

>>10974335
I tried doing this algebraically and maybe it's because its 6am and I never went to bed or I'm just a brainlet, but this is as far as I got:

69000(x) = 102000(x-4) - 80000

x = 14.8, which is the number of years worked with a bachelors. How would I get it to the 18 which matches the data?

>>10974681
other than just adding 4 at the end obv

>>10974295
>Watches anime but relates to the villain
>99% of all anime villains are just "heh, I'll wipe out ur whole village because I feel like it".
>Becomes an ascended God for no reason
>0(zero) character depth or development
WeW

>>10974295
Is it because he wants to make bombs?

>>10974335
>paying for university
even if you're American you might as well neck yourself if you can't get scholarships

>>10974701
He wants to make knock off prescription drugs that aren't even abused because of the high prices.

>>10975787
based

>>10974306
lol no. People pick engineering because they dont want to associate themselves with doctors or lawyers. Its literally the merit matters the most the degree, if youre good you will make way more than a good doctor or a lawyer.

>>10976050
>more than a good lawyer
5 states in America have a mean salary for lawyers above $150,000. That means in those states a GOOD lawyer makes $300K+

>>10976059
300k is nothing though. You see people pick engineering to live the american dream aka starting a business and becoming self made multi millionaire before hitting 30. They never planned to wagecuck for others like a lawyer does, even if he becomes an partner.

Of course most people wont make it but thats the mentality of it.

There is no shame in dropping out of a degree program.

It happens to the majority that go into high demand, high wage, degree fields.


The only shame a person should feel in academics, is when they give up on their own ability to learn.

>>10976076
You might as well just play the lottery if that's your mindset though.

>>10976093
People arent rational actors. Though its also true that most self made millionaires are engies, students who take it have highest chance of becoming one and that engineers as a group are most positive about becoming one.

>>10976113
We need to find the genes that cause autism and genetically engineer all fetuses to be autistic. Then more people will be rational.

>>10974335
>Average (mean) Engineering
based retard

>>10974297
its training you to be a slave to the dark beat

>>10976119
its already happening
the illuminati have autism

>>10976237
>the illuminate have autism
where do I join???

>>10976180
some people get all butthurt about median

>>10974335
>If you figure 20k a year
god americans are so fucked
also if you do a PHD in something you don't enjoy enough to do for 25 years, you deserve any kind of financial misfortune possible

>>10974699
Light

>>10976238
you can be your own turbo splinter cell

>>10977567
This picture gave me a stress fracture and erectile dysfunction

>>10977700
why a stress fracture?

>>10974295
>(drops out 3rd semester due to being unable to keep up with the coursework)
You mean drops out due to the sudden realization there's no job waiting on the other side

angst doesn't mean anger