/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10959422
>There are a lot of valid theories which would only work if Einstein was wrong.
Name five.

>>10959429

Anything that has been tested in a lab.

>>10959476
Name ten.

>>10959479

Why would you attempt bluffing while being made less secure without the help of bluffing?

>>10959479
"Spooky action at a distance", is all that needs to be said.

>>10959422
No, the fact that light doesn't even have a speed and is an induced electrical phenomenon does.

>No, light is not an electromagnetic phenomena and has a speed despite there being no differentiation from what it is opposed to what it does.

Well that's cute if you actually believe that, but not even Einstein believed in that kind of nonsense.

>>10959493

What are you referring to?

>>10959493
>no differentiation from what it is opposed to what it does.
Does anything satisfy this?
>"Spooky action at a distance", is all that needs to be said.
I don't see what you're trying to say here.

>>10959422

How would you substantiate the assumption that one would be able to appoint to the person you are supposed to be that Einstein (Onestone) wasn't aware of him being simultaneously wrong and right about anything he would have apparently said without relativizing the content of the words he has written down? Are you currently able to question Einstein? What are your theoretical facts about practical assumptions and would you imply that if a stone is able to suck cock in one of the currently present infinite amounts of dimensions then it would factually affect anything that would happen within or even outside of the as infinite counted dimensions of which an infinite but smaller than infinity amount would exclude the possibility of anything actually happening there?

>>10959721
>Does anything satisfy this?
No because there literally is no differentiation. Take away what it does and you get no light.
>measure "photon particle" at rest in order to determine whether or not it is a concrete/empirical "thing" to be observed
>It ceases to exist
>this is now something discrete?
>and has a speed?

>I don't see what you're trying to say here.
Neither did Einstein, it's basically just a renaming of instantaneous action at a distance but still lacks a non-fallacious explanation.

>coming to /sci/ to call Einstein wrong
weak b8 m8

>>10959756

feed it with it

What really disables his theories are his exclusion of aether. Light propagating without a medium is a joke.

>>10959763
the aether is a fucking joke you brainlet

>>10959766

Why is physics making you angry?

>>10959766
because the aether isnt physics anymore you absolute nut

>>10959763
lmao what the fuck?

>>10959776

How can something be absolute if everything is relative?

>>10959763
>I don't understand what a physical model is

>>10959779

Why are you upset?

>>10959780
youre the nut, an absolute fucking nut because you believe in the ether

weak shitposters should off themselves

>>10959763

Would you say that a medium would make light faster?

>>10959782
>the universe is physical to be modeled

>>10959789

Are you sure that you would want to say that on an anonymous forum?

>>10959789
Yeah what an idiot, doesn't he realize we call it "Quantum foam"/Dark matter now?

>>10959796
yes

>>10959799

Would you also say that you would want to say it while implying that it would mean what it is supposed to be understood as by at least one person?

Everything down to the neutron is elctromagn-tohydr-dynamics.i cant spell it out or it will get sensored.its actuslly really simple but then we wouldnt need all those high saleried physicist to jerk us around.

>>10959816
fuck off this board

>>10959755
>Photon at rest

Don’t exist. Weak bait

>>10959822

Why are you mad though? Don't you think that others should be mad about you?

>>10959798
Whoa Nelly
Based

The boogaloo has begun

>>10959422

Why would you consciously make the claim about Einstein that his works would make anything one would be able to believe invalid, without considering the fact that while energy being the least to be put between any type of a particle it's not able to disappear without having caused something unpredictable?

>>10959866
Learn English, your shill posting is going to waste as is.

>>10959869

Why would you think that something somebody has posted anonymously would be able to make you feel stupid? Do you believe in magic and are you currently relativizing terms while considering fantastic relationship ideas as real? Have you been taught recently but you would see it as counterproductive?

>>10959422
There is only one valid theory and I'm not tellin'
t. accomplished wizard

>>10959830

Are you a photon?

>>10959830
>Don’t exist.
Correct, they don' t exist. That is why I put quotes around "photon particle".

>>10959830
>>10959901
fuck off teslabrains

>>10959905

haha wtf it's the camera lens review dude

>>10959422
>>10959798
>>10959840
>tfw still no auto-bans for Electric Universe retards
I guess the next best thing is anyone stumbling upon this trainwreck of a thread can look up "Electric Universe" and see for themselves the level of retardation these literal cult victims have fallen for now that I've posted said cult's name which they've learned to avoid mentioning themselves over here so as to make it take slightly longer before everyone else on /sci/ realizes the scope of their delusion.

>>10959953
this. electric universe is cancer. at least berzerkfag hasn't been posting here recently, he got BTFO pretty hard so at least his fractal hologram version of EU hasn't been polluting this site the last ~month

>>10959953

Do you believe that energy is equal to electricity?

>>10959962
>at least berzerkfag hasn't been posting here recently
hahahahahahahaha

>>10959953
>no auto-bans for Electric Universe retards
>these literal cult victims

So you despise cults despite thinking exactly like a cult member? Yeah, please tell us more about your harrowing journey in warding off random people on an anonymous imageboard.

>>10959990
Gravity is just pressure mediation, according to based gutsposter, if I recall correctly. Which is to say, he agrees with me that gravitational waves are acoustic in nature.
Feel free to correct me if I have misrepresented you.

Electric universe is an obvious misinformation scheme with only one purpose, to strengthen the credibility and the authority of established dogma and approved narrative.

Spacetime curvature is the most magical and absurd mechanism ever proposed in science.

>>10960022
>Electric universe is an obvious misinformation scheme with only one purpose, to strengthen the credibility and the authority of established dogma and approved narrative

No, it's mostly a conglomeration of idiots who really don't know how electricity and magnetism works and would rather daydream that the government and conspiracies are preventing them from having UFO's and Star Trek Tier technology. This dreaming is what prevents them from actually doing the research/work themselves because it causes paranoia, fear and ultimately the loss of motivation of trying to understand it. Then of course you have the college educated morons added in the mix who also don't know how electricity and magnetism works, but they have a larger and more funded group think behind them that convinces them that they're right.

>Which is to say, he agrees with me that gravitational waves are acoustic in nature.
Waves of what?

lmao

>>10960068
>This dreaming is what prevents them from actually doing the research/work
Some of their problems are intentionally predatory in origin e.g. Whoever collects on those four thousand dollar a pop Electric Universe Convention tickets.

>>10960022
>>10960068

Cockup or Conspiracy

>>10960068 #
>This dreaming is what prevents them from actually doing the research/work
Some of their problems are intentionally predatory in origin e.g. Whoever collects on those $400 a pop annual Electric Universe Conference tickets.

>>10960068
Harmonic oscillators oriented about an axis of rotation in parallel with the mean point of mass/energy.

>>10959476
SO can't name any?

>>10960074
Some yes, but there are literally thousands of knuckleheads on youtube trying to get a wheel to spin with magnets. Then there are the Orgone/crystal dumbasses. I hate all of them more than anyone in this thread ever could.

>>10959510
Electric Universe nonsense.

It's like Flat Earth for physics.

>>10959990
>>10960091
oh god he's back.

still waiting on your equations for the fractal hologram. figured them out yet?

>>10960091
>I hate all of them as much as anyone in this thread ever could.

FTFY

>>10960080
>Cockup or Conspiracy

How about you tell me what a "wave" is first, then decide for yourself.

>>10960084
"Description of something non specific". Does not tell me anything specific. Basically "wat". Also would help if we knew what energy was before trying to control it.

>>10960097

>equation for something self-similar

Itself. It itself is its "equal".

>>10960121
uh, the mandelbrodt set has an equation. so does general relativity (which is conformally invariant). so do conformal field theories.

your verbal refuse is just mind games that only tricks innumerates

>>10960110
I could be a lot more specific and give examples of how you can verify this experimentally, but you're right I am actually paranoid that the big bad gubbermint will come and fuck my shit up. Plus, I don't exactly know.. quite yet. lmao I know

It's some kind of weird hydrogen, and the cosmic microwave background radiation is the spectral emissions from this weird hydrogen. I have no way to do the experiments I would need to verify my suspicions, and I'm pretty sure any attempt to publish would result in my accidentally shooting myself in the back of the head twice, or getting sued for violating intellectual property law.

>>10960133
>uh, the mandelbrodt set has an equation
I'm not talking about the Mandelbrot set, I'm talking about reality.

>so do conformal field theories.
What's a field?

>your verbal refuse is just mind games that only tricks innumerates

There is no trick, the universe does not run off of math. If anything "math" is the actual trick, a goalpost that has moved countless times throughout history. Counting something doesn't make something exist. It quantifies it. That's all.

>>10960138
>>10960159
>It's some kind of weird hydrogen
Just like literally every single element. Conglomerated hydrogen, I don't think any actually physicist would disagree with that statement given that what creates all the other elements seems to be composed of mostly it (the sun).

>>10960193
okay, so your theory has no equations. does that imply it makes no quantitative predictions?

>>10960197
okay, so your theory has no equations.

How can the universe have an equal? It is "the universe".

>does that imply it makes no quantitative predictions?

You cannot quantitatively predict that which exhibits no quantity.

>>10960193
I'm thinking that it's an intermediate state between hydrogen and radiation, that can be excited into a state of matter or agitated and diffused based on one or two factors, like local gravitational field intensity. Gary might actually be onto something with his diffusion, reverse diffusion cellular automata. Shout out to my boi gare-bear, hang in there for (possible) vindication or consolation.

>>10960206
okay, so translating your rhetorical questions to actual statements i ibterpret that as “yes, my theory makes no quantitative predictions”. correct?

>>10959763
spacetime is literally the aether

>>10960410
It's not because the aether has discrete units like a fluid lattice, and spacetime is one big thing or fabric as it is so often called. It's in the manipulation of these discrete units that doomsday devices can be made, and also zero gravity trampoline parks with blackjack and hookers.

>>10960426
>blackjack and hookers.
kek

>>10959766
What disproved aether?

lmao xDDD

>>10960089

Why should I want to save your life?

>>10960089

Do you think that enough time would have passed for you to receive an answer which would have changed towards a direction which you would be able to find desirable? Do you think that time is an important factor for you and do you think that it's as important as for others? Do you think that you're able to measure and estimate things correctly enough to be able to act according to your measurements?

>>10960206

Are you often relativizing things in order to defend yourself?

How can it be possible for one to have to consume this much power in attempt of not looking like a retard compared to a clinically retarded person wihtout succeeding at it?

>>10959422
In this day and age anyone who still believe this Jew was even intelligent and not a fraud propt up by Jewish organisations is a retarded boomer at best.

How can it be possible for one to have to consume this much power in attempt of not looking like a retard compared to a clinically retarded person without succeeding at it? lmao

>>10961765

Why aren't you able to spell correctly?

>>10961751
But that's what physicist's do with their invented particles. There is not a thing that is discrete in ONE universe.
>>10960391
Nothing I said was rhetorical, what part of "You cannot quantitatively predict that which exhibits no quantity", do you not understand?
>yeah well you're just assuuuuuming that it isn't physical and has no quantity because you're just dumb and can't into maths.

No. Logically it would have no quantity because where would the quantity come from? Another universe? So then the the answer would yet again be "the universe created the universe" and we would be going down the holographic paradigm argument again.
Another magical place some other theory would imagine up? Give me a break. Show me a concrete discrete quantity before you start assuming there is actual quantity in the universe. It's qualitative, which is unquantifiable without arbitrary goalposts and standards of measure. There is no standard of measure in the universe.

>>10961885

Are you often trying to hide your lack of competence behind amounts of information which would be vaguely coherent for itself but wouldn't be connected to the rest of this world at all?

>>10961765

Have you known that in order to get accepted by everybody you need to scream "gas the kikes" in front of them? It's a jewish trick named "Umkehrpsychologie", people, which all are jews except for you, will recognize you as somebody of their own and will do anything for you.

>81 replies
>19 unique IPs
What kind of person spends their time arguing with themselves about schizo nonsense like this?

Yesn't.

>>10962316

Why would you think that people you wouldn't know the identity of would like to suggest to you indirectly that you're crazy?

This thread is complete shit mainly because OP is a massive faggot with the language skills of a fourth grader, and his understanding of this controversy is abysmally poor. A thread that discusses the validity of spacetime curvature as a mechanism for action of gravitation, now that would be fucking lit. I could tease alphabet boys for days. Line your bitch asses up so I don't have to waste my rhetorical bullets laying the smackdown on each and every one of you individually. I am about to let the cat out the motherfuckin' bag.

>>10963700

Why would you want to write down prayers which would be defined as magical spells in order to impress extraterrestrials on 4chan? Why would you want to handle according to your own autosuggestive behavior while knowing what autosuggestion is and what the reason for you to rely on it is? Why would you want to assume that you could cause something to turn into the opposite by writing down a prayer which would be defined as a magical spell to impress extraterrestrials? Why would you want to express not agreeing with the statement OP has postulated while being the first person ITT to indirectly confirm what he would have said?

>>10963717
Stop shitting up my board you daft cunt!

>>10963726

Why would you want to act according to something that has been proven wrong again and again? Do you feel like any proof for you being wrong would be the result of a conspiracy against you by the world which according to you wouldn't be able to understand that you're a wizard?

>>10963726

When will extraterrestrials arrive and how did you come to the conclusion that they would be exact the same as your mother has been?

>>10963738
citation needed bud
>been proven wrong again and again

>>10963773

Why would you want to suggest to be ignorant while the opposite would take place? Why are you so defensive?

>>10963778
Classic misdirection. I ask you for evidence that aether has been disproven and what do you give me? A rhetorical question? You do not know the lengths to which I will explore in order to form my own conclusion. I will memorize every single piece of literature offered as a citation, and I will turn it against you so fucking fast it would make your head spin. I am defending my argument, what exactly are you doing? If you think you can deter me with this harassment you are sadly mistaken. If you intend to support your claim that I am wasting my time, you will need experimental evidence.

>>10963798

Why would you want to think that somebody wants to embarass you or annoy you on purpose without having the intention of solving your problem? Do you have a crooked sense for causes of things because something in your life wouldn't have made sense like you wouldn't be capable of receiving affection or validation without having to be dishonest to a person? Why would you want to project your mental disability on others instead of letting others help you? Are you afraid of losing your belongings which would have been aquired through applying falsehood? Why are you so defensive although you know that the personality trait you try to defend is the result of biasment and bad childhood experiences which as a child have been assigned correctly by you while projecting it on the whole world afterwards wasn't?

>>10963817
Jesus you're only barely more comprehensible than a markov text chain generator set to degenerative schizophrenia mode. Get help. I don't care to indulge your fascination with me. I am beyond your understanding, so quit asking for explanations. If you have anything meaningful to contribute to the discussion then do so.

>>10963839

Why are you still defensive although your problem already has been solved? Are you afraid of not being of significance anymore without your problem? Why would you want to be so gullible to believe that a person which has a solution for any problem wouldn't be able to solve your problem of unemployment? What are you interested in besides of homosexuality?

Bump

>>10963949

Why would you want to think something that is not true?

>>10962316
>95 replies
>20 unique IPs

>>10963953
You're really annoying.

>>10964004

Why would you want to attempt wizardry? Do you believe in a conspiracy of muggle people who aren't capable of wizardry who would envy you and try to annoy you through ignorance on purpose?

>>10960022
Why did based guts poster get his post deleted? He literally did nothing wrong.

>>10964150
Avatarfagging one thread with only one "avatar" that only an extremely butthurt mod who follows me around would know about. Par for the course and remember, "Fuck Jannies".