/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10949469
Low hanging scientific achievements have been gotten, now its time for really extensive knowledge base theories that require decades in multiple field to get a good grasp of modern physics.

>>10949481
It may seem low-hanging to us now, but those people still had to be geniuses to figure some of that stuff out. If we were to bring them into the modern age and and educate them about everything we have learned I’m sure they could still come up with amazing ideas.

Good luck trying to build space stations with Muslim diversity hires that can only work on your project between TED talks.

>>10949469
Scientific advancement is as fast as ever. It just seems slower to you because you are living it.

>>10949469
OP, are you kidding me?
Less than 100 years ago humans hadn't figured out flight, now we're flying shit around in space. Landing on the moon was a big symbolic advancement but it was mostly just an engineering feat. The advances are happening but you don't see them because a lot of it is basic research.

>>10949590
lol I know this kid. made pretty huge news when rihanna or somebody retweeted it. thanks for reading my blog

>>10949490
They are geniuses. No one would second guess and say Newton/Gauss/Liebnez/etc aren't geniuses. But there are 100000x more geniuses today than in the 1500s, however just by being a genius doesn't produce new ground breaking discovering anymore.

>>10949469
>Why our advancement has slowed down
Because, all science that can be known by humanity is nearly all known already. It is all about engineering now. I can tell you know nothing at all about anything other than popsci, "People who could have cured cancer."

>>10949675
My point is, we have these autistic geniuses getting sucked into these useless hobbies. If they were born in the past they would be dedicating their lives to things that are actually important.

>>10949605
What I’m saying though is that if we had Minecraft and league of legends back then maybe all those advancements never would have been made. Because the type of autist would probably get obsessed with those things before considering science and engineering. Path of leaf resistance and what not.

Advancement has slowed because we have exhausted most of the fundamental discoveries concerning classical/ relativistic mechanics which are easily observable to humans. Now that we are looking beyond that to micro/nano/quantum scale significant advancements won't be as easy to achieve.

More unconventional tools and methodologies will need to be created in order to continue advancing.

>>10949696
Yeah, I agree to a point. Perhaps this is just another form of weeding out the weak willed? There are many people out there who are very smart and doing things to better science and technology as a whole; which may not be their goal. We are no longer mired in war, after all.

>>10949707
That's the same thing every generation said about their new forms of entertainment. In Victorian times the boomers of that age literally thought the younger generations were fucked because they read too many books.

>>10949765
Here’s the thing though. Back then if you wanted something intellectually stimulating it would by default probably result in something productive. Obsessed about collecting and classifying things? You’d probably find yourself becoming an entomologist and contributing to our knowledge of insects. You weren’t necessarily thinking about humanity’s advancement. You just like collecting and classifying, and it just happens to be that your interest was channeled into something useful . Of course you could have ended up collecting bottle caps or something, but that’s less likely. Today, an autistic obsession for collecting and classifying can find so many other avenues, many of which are ultimately useless to society.

>>10949469
Before Videogames came along people watched TV, and before that they played poker and before that they did whatever the timewaster was in their era. You could probably get more people into science if you were to make it appear cool like videogames, but those born with true curiosity and genius intellect, people like DaVinci and Newton, will go into science regardless of the pleb activities around them.

>>10949847
But for tv and books you reach a certain point where you get bored of just consuming them and want to move onto making them yourself. Deeper knowledge and what not. There are video games that you could spend a lifetime learning the ins and outs of. A lot of people don’t need to move past the consumption phase because the game itself is so deep. It’s just that it’s self-contained, so all that mastery and knowledge has fewer outlets into the real world.

>>10949844
Hell no it wouldn't. Back the "good old days" they had a system called P A T R O N A G E. Basically a shittier, less efficient, less objective form of the grant system. If your curiosity didn't tickle the fancy of some posh land holder, fuck off back to the forges/fields/mines or wherever you came from. The guys who followed their fancy out of pure curiosity were either given patronage or they were part of the gentry and could do whatever they wanted.

>>10949867
> and want to move onto making them yourself.
There is plenty of people who play videogames, then start modding them and then start making some themselves, learning programming and going into computer science. Either people start creating something on their own or they stay consumer pigs forever, that's the case for every time period. The time consumer product itself is pretty irrelevant.

>>10949888
Take Minecraft for example. People can build these amazing things in the game. Your imagination is basically the limit. People have built working computers in Minecraft. Now why would this brilliant mind have any impetus for moving onto making computers in real life if all the tools he needs are self-contained within the game? In addition, the game is designed to be enjoyable and addicting, so he gets the dopamine from that in addition to the creative satisfaction of building a virtual computer. Games are unique in that very intelligent people can be satisfied within the confines of the consumer product because the skill-ceiling can be limitless.

>>10949469
We have geniuses today on par or smarter than Newton and DaVinci, it's just they already discovered the easy stuff so the stuff left to discover now is 100x harder to figure out. For example, Jacob Barnett could have invented calculus if it wasn't already invented.

>>10949752
These "weak-willed" people are just in the wrong circumstances. Any smart autist who doesn't recognize the dangers of the modern world has a high chance of falling into this trap.