/sci/ - Science & Math

Are any other anons in civil? I'm taking statics this semester. What am I in for?

>>10928864
My penis is pretty static rn. It's pretty hard so I would study a lot and pay attention to the teacher. I hear he's a real dick.

>>10928864
Statics is a standard undergrad course. Its Trig + Phsyics so make sure you have basic trigonometry down. Sin, Cos, Tan. You will learn over and over the sum of forces is zero for a non moving part. There is a segway into materials science depending how in depth your instruction is.

does anyone have the long, yellow chart for percentages of trade jobs and their equivalent competence levels?

Electrical Engineering > all

>>10928857
mmm

>>10928857
Its so funny the stereotype in the pic, the engineer dressed as a construction worker.
Does it apply to anyone but Civil and Preventionist engineers/ETech?
I don't think even the average Electrical/Mech/Chem has to this days.

>>10929328
I'm interested in this.

ME doing both solids and fluids next. Which one’s harder and why?

>>10929472
Depends where you work, obviously. I'm a chemical engineer and I wear street clothes in the office, but if I go into the plant then I change into coveralls, boots, hard hat, glasses, gloves, etc. Some plants make everyone wear coveralls all the time, so you even have to take them home with you, I wouldn't like that at all.

Quit whatever the fuck you're doing and move to marine engineering

Reminder that engineering is the new meme major and that none of you deluded college students will find gainful employment in your field of study.

>>10929450
chemical engineering > electrical > rest >>>>>> civil

I just had an interview with the founder of some energy company. I originally mass applied to and the role was embedded engineer with 3-5 years of exp. Yesterday, the hr person reached out to me saying oh we want to interview you but maybe an EE role is better suited for you. I was like idc either works. Well today during my call it turns out that my 3-5 years of missing exp actually discounted me instantly from being considered for an engineering role, but was told I would be considered for a technician role instead with pcbs and stuff, she said so I could get experience. The main selling point is that I can speak spanish and shes expanding, rapidly, to latin america and needs people that can speak the language. Now my question is, if I were offered a role as some technician, would this harm my future prospects for an EE role?

>>10929545
solids are harder than liquids fucking retard

WHY WONT HONDAJET CALL ME BACK BROS

>>10930055
What about liquid diamond?

>>10929843
biomolecular engineering>chemical engineering

prove me wrong

my major > your major

why is statics fucking harder than thermodynamics

>>10930826
A true engineer only cares about how much MONEY his major makes. Most people go into oversaturated markets and make poopoo money.

>>10930830
>A true engineer only cares about how much MONEY his major makes
Then you shouldn't be going into engineering, kiddo. Engineers make absolute shit money for how much they work.

t. engineer

>>10929857
>would this harm my future prospects for an EE role
Yes. Sounds like they want to hire you as a Tech instead of an EE to underpay you.

>>10928864
Pretty much what this guy >>10929254
said. Its not very hard.
You get a pretty good understanding of how to make things like pullup bars and light poles stand up.


For my question, any chem E's out there? Just got my Chem E degree but didn't do an internship or take the FE exam. Having a hard time finding work, any advice? Is it worth it to go take the FE?

>>10930836
>Engineers make absolute shit money for how much they work.
Only if they are stupid about their choices and go for shit fields. If you are an engineer, you are familiar with programming and (somewhat) higher math, so you can easily go into tech or finance and make big bucks.

inb4 sperglord autismo comes in to post his thoughts about engineering and gets his post deleted for the 4000th time

>easily go into tech or finance and make big bucks.

>>10930888
>I'm going to study engineering and le ebic higher math for four years so I can go into fucking finance! Of course this makes sense!

>>10930961
>easily go into tech or finance and make big bucks.
Yep. Exactly.
Think about the sociology major with no marketable skills and no job prospects beyond being a high school teacher or a cuck to academia.

>>10930969
It's better than going to fucking Business and working for minimum wage.

>>10930854
it could be. i have no professional experience making or designing pcb's so I'm not sure, maybe their request for 3-5 years of exp is justified. I just don't want to be a technician if I got a degree as an EE.

>>10928857
where/how should i learn about kinematic "systems" and how do they act in 3d?

or anything lti in 3d?

>>10931041
>where/how should i learn about kinematic "systems" and how do they act in 3d?
university

I'm a chemE about to graduate and the only internship experience I have is desk work for DOE-EM. Do most internships make you do jack shit for 3 months?

>>10930830
>how much MONEY his major makes.
Majors don't make money.
>um hello, I have received my magic piece of paper, I am here to exchange it for my money, that will be 300k starting thanks!
Same retarded shit every thread. The same people who pick a major for money are the ones perplexed why they can't get a job after uni.

>>10928857
How long is everyone's commute to work? Mine is currently 60-90 minutes via train but I'm starting a new job interstate and the office is in the city, so I'm thinking of renting an apartment so I can walk to work. Any other anons lived within walking distance to work?

>>10931057
>The same people who pick a major for money are the ones perplexed why they can't get a job after uni.
I did and I got a job while I'm in college. I'm sorry you won't be able to make as much as me because you chose a dead end career.

>>10929472
I work in an aluminum casthouse and have to wear hard hat/boots/fire resistant clothing on the factory floor. Some manufacturing positions require it. The girl in the OP needs to tie her hair back before she gets scalped though.

>>10930976
Those business majors are going to be your boss when you graduate, anon. At work I have five managers who all give me orders while they do nothing in particular all day. I work 60-70 hours a week. Engineers are cubicle monkey virgins.

turn into a black woman and you'll get all the engineering jobs you want

>>10931094
>Those business majors are going to be your boss when you graduate, anon.
My boss is a physicist.
There's literally nothing holding me from learning the business majors skill, while they would have a hard time developing their analytical (esp. mathematical) skills on their own.

>>10931057
>Majors don't make money.
*points smugly at M.D. hanging on wall*

What now?

>>10931094
I've never worked for anyone who doesn't have an engineering degree. The plant manager, the manager of all the plants, the chemical division head, the CEO of the company I work for are all chemical engineers. The upper level ones usually have an MBA or something, but they're not business majors.

I've also never worked in a cubicle. I only work more than 40 hours if some shit went seriously wrong or if I'm commissioning a major project or something.

>>10931056
Where I work interns do some pretty worthwhile stuff but we also get 100k applicants a year or something like that so most interns are pretty good.

>>10931094
I've NEVER heard of or seen a business major/background working as an engineering manager. They work in purchasing and things like that.

>>10931043
thanks, lemme just drive to a bank, take 90K loan and wait 3-4 years

>be EE undergrad
>last year /sci/ tells me I should find a internship and build a resume as an undergrad to find a good job
>get internship in engineering start-up
>do good in internship, they offer me a part-time job
>accept
>now 6 months working part-time while studying and still going

I still get good grades but shit I don't have time to do anything. Last semester I studied/worked every hour of my existence. Literally 55 hours per week dedicated to university and 20 hours per week dedicated to the job. I sleept 5 hours average, I ate like shit and gained a lot of weight, I survived barely on coffee alone.

And this semester it's looking exactly the same as last semester. I feel like I'll end up with a mental breakdown. I feel like I don't have for myself and my hobbies.

But it is w-worth it, right bros? For the resume h-heh, right?

>>10931322
congratulations, you're an engineer!
have fun for the next 50 years!

I am considering doing a General Engineering degree as a bachelors then specialising in Aero or Mech or EE or CS via Masters when I know what I want to do.

Is this retarded? I’m too young, dumb, and scared to pick one branch.

>>10931347
I want off the ride, Mr. Bones!

But seriously, do engineers have little time for themselves or something? I thought an engineering job wasn't that demanding.

>>10931322
I wouldn't work part-time while studying unless you need the cash. Interning in the first place is impressive enough. You can go back in the summer or take a semester off to intern again.

>>10931071
I live in a town of about 30k people and my commute is about an 8 minute drive

>>10931152
>plant life
so comfy

I graduated from electronic engineering and started working for an audit team, does this shit have any future? will i get cucked later for not having *engineering* job experience later when i actually wanna work in the field?

What should i study to prepare decently for Energy Engineering?

>>10931322
If you're spending 55 hours a week on university, you're clearly not smart enough for university. Drop out.

>>10928857
airplanes are cool, what are some books to learn about structures and aeronautical design?.

>>10932971
I may get some shit for this, but Niu's "Airframe Structural Design" and "Airframe Stress Analysis and Sizing" are a great one-stop shop for structural design and analysis of aircraft.

t. aerospace stress engineer

>>10932391
Undergrad engineering students always fall for the graduate “on-time” meme and slamma’ jamma’ 20 credit semesters. The collective GPA of /eng/ would rise by one full letter grade if everyone only took 12 credits.

>>10933013
>don’t graduate on-time
>an extra $6k+ in loans
Ehh I’ll suck it up

>>10933047
>graduate on-time
>GPA is less than 3.5
>"Would you like fries with that?"
Delicious

>>10933013
>12 credits
What the fuck are you even supposed to do with so much free time?

>>10933013
This is true.

>>10933047
>>10933357
Employers do not know or care how long you were in college, but you are absolutely not getting hired if you have less than a 3.5. If you want good job, you should be aiming for a 3.8 GPA and above.

The so called engineer's intuition is just an euphenism used to hide or to glorify trial and error and getting something to work by luck when you had no idea of what to do or what you are doing.

>>10933377
That's the same method by which mathematicians do proofs. You are literally no better.

t. engineer who went into maths

>>10933377
Yes. Hopefully for important stuff you have the time to work out an answer you're sure about, but for snap judgements and rough estimates you just make that shit up. It's very important that you convince other people that you're smart and know what you're talking about, even if you have no idea what you're doing.

>>10933369
The only things you really need to get good jobs in engineering are projects, internships and networking. Having a good GPA is great, but it is nothing compared to the former. Also, anyone who isn't mentally handicapped should be able to handle at least 16 credits a semester.

>>10933408
You get internships by having a high GPA. Companies do not care about projects. You are an undergrad.

why is calculus so hard

>>10933412
It's not.

>>10933408
How do you think you get internships, dumbass? I do college recruiting for my company and my boss throws out all the resumes with less than a 3.5.

>>10933416
trigonometric limits are so hard to understand though. it's just so vast and i feel like it doesn't matter how much time i put into learning it, it's never enough to cover the whole subject. now we're learning derivatives and i feel like i might not make it considering that i didn't even understand the previous topic thoroughly

>>10933430
Save yourself the trouble and don't do engineering. This field sucks and you are clearly not cut out for it. All these memelords are pushing the idea that everyone needs to become an engineer, but that's precisely why it has become such a terrible career.

>>10933461
i'm a cs undergrad. i used to consider myself a math person but now i don't feel like i understand it well enough to even allow myself to think like that

>>10933369
t. college recruiter

>>10933369
lmao
university GPA doesn't matter what matters is that you actually have experience in your field DURING university

If you go to an interview and get asked "what were you doing while going to university" and your answer is "jacking off to anime porn" instead of actually doing something related practical to your degree... enjoy starbucks champ. Nobody wants to hire some kid who'll piss all over himself if his dick isn't held in front of him.

>>10933517
The entire purpose of going to college is to get your degree. If you get a shit GPA then you fucked up at your one single primary goal for 4+ years. Internships and shit are important, but all that is secondary.

>On the x-axis a convenient point is chosen to the right of 0 and its distance from 0 is called the unit distance. Vertical distances along the y-axis are usually measured with the same unit distance, although sometimes it is convenient to use a different scale on the y-axis.
i don't get it. when is it convenient to not use the cartesian plan in its canonical parameter values?

>>10933590
>The entire purpose of going to college is to get your degree.
Lol. Only if you're going into academia. If you're not going into academia NOBODY gives a shit about your GPA as long as it's over 3.0, they just want to know you can do the job without fucking up and making them have to file paperwork.

>>10933482
bro please read apostol and stop whining

Should I study CS or EE? I did analysis 1 and int. to linear algebra and found them super fun. EE seems to cover more options and interests but CS is the future...

>>10933430
Cover the bases first. A lot of my friends came from shit schools and even though they were brilliant, some of them almost failed calc 1 due to a shit base to work with.
Make sure you understand the definition for EVERY function you see in class. Cosine, sine, logarithms, roots. Think over several days about them until they feel familiar. Properties of division and powers should also be understood. If there is some basic shit you dont get, take your time to understand it before continuing with harder stuff.
Don't do the problems before more or less understanding the theory, and you will have a headstart over everyone (at least in the first 2 years lol)

>going to be 4 months since graduation
>still no actual job offers
When's the good part lads?

>>10928857
>tfw no cute engineerfu

>>10933814
Keep chuggin, took me 6 months after graduation to get anything

>>10933778
>definition
He should understand the PROOF for every base concept. The difference between a mediocre engineer and a great one (hint one makes more money) is one can plug and chug and the other actually understands the maths.

>>10933742
See:
>>10933420

If you can't manage to get a decent GPA then you're a dumbass and/or bad at prioritizing. If you're at the entry-level, then how else are you supposed to prove you can do the job without fucking up if not by showing that you didn't fuck up in school?

>>10933906
I have a 3.9GPA. It's just that nobody has EVER asked me for my GPA. Not for an internship, not for a job. Maybe you just went to a shitty university that nobody knows about.

>>10933753
CompE

>>10933590
>the entire purpose of going to college is to get your degree
The absolute state of /sci/

>>10933828
I hope I can land something soon. I hear managers come back from vacation around this time, but we'll see. Keeping optimistic something will show up.

>>10933357
Internships, personal projects, maybe even having fun and blowing off steam.

>>10933047
Good thing you took your time to baby your GPA so you are eligible for more scholarships and internships.

It doesn’t matter how smart you are, anything more than 12 credits yields diminishing returns, more book learning past that isn’t going to help you more than research or projects.

>>10933778
>>10933860
Thanks, I think I'm going to recap some trig before truly diving back in calculus. I have greatly improved my algebraic manipulation skills since I started this too so maybe it's not all that bad. at least now I know I was in the right path by approaching this exactly like you told, maybe it was a matter of time until I had these concepts well stuck in my head

>>10934068
Of america you mean

join the Venus project for exp

>>10934278
Good luck anon. It's a rewarding path

>>10931353

GE is the worst thing; Go Mech if you hate Specialization. Mech has dozens of branches: Marine, Aero, Auto, Space etc

>>10934215
>anything more than 12 credits yields diminishing returns, more book learning past that isn’t going to help you more than research or projects.
Imagine being so mentally crippled you convince yourself no one can retain more than 3 classes of information at a time

>>10934215
I'm taking 22 credits and doing everything you listed, while still having my weekends to fuck around doing nothing

>>10931353
General Engineering is as much of a meme as Industrial. Go for Mechanical and do some interdisciplinary work

>>10934424
List your university and the classes you're taking.
Also, it's the second weekend of fall. Shit hasn't gotten real yet.

>>10934500
Stanford
MATH 51 - Linear Algebra, Multivariable Calculus, and Modern Applications
PHYSICS 41 – Mechanics
MATH 59H - Advanced Conceptual Female Mathematics
HOMEC 101 - The Power of XE/XER in Household Dynamics

>>10934511
Those last two can’t possibly be real

All these delusional college students just begging to get rekt by the job market...

>>10934530
Fuck off /pol/tard, sorry about your low IQ world view

>>10928857
I'm reading a book on the finite element method, and I don't understand the notation in pic related, specifically on line 1. Does anyone want to help me out with what it's called or how to read it?

>>10934406
I think he’s suggesting the failure rate is so high, or opportunity cost so high that you would be better off taking 3 difficult core courses or 2 core courses 1 useful upper division elective every semester instead of larping as a psychopath and barely earning a similar gpa with 4+ courses. I think this is a bit pessimistic as long as you have no necessity for a part-time job/internship during the term and agree its absurd that you would set such a hard rule for yourself.

>>10934406
It’s not a matter of retention you fuck knuckle. It’s a matter of only having 24 hours in a day. Engineering classes have fuckloads of projects and practical application time built in. You can have a 160 IQ but that doesn’t make your solution converge any faster on that CFD problem you are working on. But that completely digresses from my point that being an engineer isn’t about the class shit. You should be taking 3 classes so you can be working on other stuff and still have time for self care.

Why are americans obsessed with GPA? Is it true that in America you can retake any class to improve your GPA? Are american universities retarded bros?

>>10934640
Scholarships, grad school, and internships are all derivatives of GPA

>>10934640
American universities are so fucking easy that if you don't have a 3.9+ GPA in ANY undergraduate major it shows you are very very low IQ. I wish I was joking. Everything taught in the first 4 years of every major should be taught in highschool.

>>10934429
>>10934354
Even in my masters was specialised GE is still bad? I’m a euro not American btw.

>>10935595
It depends what you want to do man. If you want to be a slave to retards GE is good.

>>10931353
I would also recommend to just do mech or CS for undergrad for a more general education. Aero is somewhat similar to mech but with a stronger focus on fluids than thermo/materials (these topics are still covered though). Personally, I would recommend studying CS if you're even remotely interested, it's easy and guaranteed high wage.

I graduated from Civil Engineering 3 years ago and I have mixed feelings about this entire field

I don't want to work 6 days a week as a site engineer in all the fucking sand and desert and I don't want to work as a designer who sits in cubicle inputting dimensions into some FEM structural analysis tool and drawing lines on Autocad like a monkey

>>10935597
Why would a masters in aero/cs/me/ee be viewed differently than if I had a bachelors in ge vs me?

>>10935632
I'd rather the cubicle tbqh.

How's nuclear engineering? Am I going to make big bucks in the future by decommissioning reactors?

>>10936035
>Am I going to make big bucks in the future by decommissioning reactors?
Nope.

>>10936054
why

>>10936057
Engineers don't make good money. *Especially* the ones who go into it for money.

>>10936173
Whom makes money then?

>>10936173
this is retarded

>>10936235
>medical professionals
>high-level managers
>entrepreneurs
Basically any job that requires you to
>be smart
>have good interpersonal skills
>take on high levela of personal risk

>>10936294
Engineering managers? Engineer entrepreneurs?

>>10936173
Bullshit.
I went in it for money and I'm making now.

>>10936294
All of those jobs can be done by engineers. In fact in 2 of them there are disproportionate amounts of engineering majors.

>>10936362
How much anon? $80k? lmfao

Am a student in Computer Engineering taking a class in Parallel Programming here. I was wondering, is it correct to say that advancements in parallel programming and parallel chips really took off because of demand for better graphics in video games? I was curious if that is a strong factor in the advancement in parallel programming.

>>10936354
>>10936364
Then go do those jobs

I don't think anon was saying that people with engineering degrees were doomed to a particular wage ceiling, but that if your job title has "engineer" in it, don't expect shitloads of cash

>>10936424
>I don't think anon was saying that people with engineering degrees were doomed to a particular wage ceiling
Yes he was

>>10932998
Hey anon, what do you think of Megson's "Aircraft Structures"?

>>10935632
If you didn't look into what the fuck you would be doing in your field before your decided to major in it, that's on you, senpai

>>10936382
>$80k? lmfao
as if that's something to belittle. how much do you have to make then in order to be considered to be making money?

Electrical > Computer > Everything Else.

>>10936719
$250k really. Cops make $80k

>>10936781
>$250k
who the fuck makes $250k? i'm a european and just making 50k euro would be like becoming a millionaire

>>10936580
Can't say I've read it, but just looking at the table of contents, it seems like it covers the basic theory you need for aircraft structural analysis. If you're learning this stuff for the first time, it looks like a good book.

If you're in, or going into, industry, I would recommend Niu's red book and/or Bruhn's Analysis & Design of Flight Vehicle Structures, for a few reasons:
>It seems that Megson has no discussion of joints (riveted joints, fastened joints, lugs). I would say a stress engineer will probably spend 1/3 to 1/2 of his time analyzing joints.
>While a book like Megson will typically give you the theory, for some problems, the "solution" typically comes down to sone expression multiplied by some test-derived factor, many of which you would have to dig through old NACA papers to find. Niu and Bruhn will often provide charts and tables for you in the text, saving you the trouble.
>Bruhn, Niu, and Peery's "Aircraft Structures" are time-tested industry standards, so if you're putting together stress notes for FAA certification, the guy signing off on your work won't bat an eye if your analysis references one of these books, whereas he might want to dig into your work more if you reference another book

Likewise, if you're interested in specialized subtopics of stress analysis, like FEM, fatigue, or damage tolerance, you'll have to get books on those specific topics.

>>10936821
not to insult you at all, but due to the current US economy and cost of living in most places of our country, making $50k/yr in the US is basically being at the upper end of poverty level unfortunately

>>10936821
mid level V.P.'s or chief/principle engineers at a fortune 100

any engineer with his own practice.

>>10937490
This. Health insurance is brutally expensive.

>>10935632
>i don't want to work 6 days a week as a site engineer in all the fucking sand and desert
Why? Working in field is one of best things about engineering

>>10936408
Not really. That would only be one part of it and really only applies to GPUs and not other types of parallel CPUs, DSPs, FPGAs, etc

>>10934688
I live in eu and whenever I read what is taught in Harvard it seems like they are already doing grad lvl in undergrad for example in their general topology course for undergrads they were already doing homotopy groups

wow, saw a field electrical engineer position. It seemed okay just driving around with a company car collecting data(boring shit really) I get a call and the recruiter asks me what my hourly salary is and I'm like, well whats the range? he says the highest they can offer is $24/hour. Bruh, 24 an hour in the bay area is a joke! I just told him I wasn't interested baka.

Who aerospace here

>graduated 2017 with bachelors, became aerodynamics engineer
>tfw love my job
>tfw got a promotion on friday

Life is good, friends

>>10938873
Can I get a perfect outline of everything youve done since your freshman year to now? Thanks.

>>10938873
Glad to hear you're enjoying aerodynamics, anon! While I'm not LGBT myself, I do consider myself an LGBT ally. Keep showing your pride, and don't let anybody get you down!

t. stress engineer

>>10928857
how do I get into engineering? specifically electrical engineering and robotics/automation

>>10938958
Get an engineering degree

>>10939100
I'm disabled with absolute shit for a school record, i mean absolute shit. I'm not getting into any kind of college any time soon.
whats the route for those that want to do this on their own time?

>>10939186
Go to trade school and work as a technician. You'll get to work with what you like without going through the whole college stuff

>>10939186
Part of being an adult is realizing that not everybody is capable of doing every individual thing

>>10939396
Everyone is capable. It's simply more efficient to distribute skills expertly. Currently, the general adult population distributes all resources "lol, what is a gift economy?"ly.

>>10939403
show me a blind electron microscopy expert

>>10939413
It wasn't intended as a ubiquitous statement. It's a generalism over the scope of averages. The average disability can perform the average job, because their disability is not completely disabling in all ways. Death is the only "true" disability, if I'm allowed to revise my (implied) meaning.

>>10939396
I already know I'm not capable of doing everything, but I dont know my limits and this life is an adventure to learn them until I die trying and I wont give up until I die or permanently injure myself.
I've started with a small 50$ arduino robotics kit by elegoo but I want to get to actually making my own things, soldering, building, might buy a 3d printer.
yeah I'm disabled but I'm not a retard

I have to start a discussion about something I noticed recently.
I'm an undergrad mechanical engineering major in a state school, and there's an OVERWHELMING number of computer science majors. Like, at least 30-40 in each of my classes which consist of around 100 people. They are not a majority, but they are a substantial minority, and I'm worried because I like a lot of them, but they're going into a profession that I feel will be so over saturated by the time we all graduate and try and go into our full careers,
I come to this idea because I was talking to some high school friends of mine and they ALSO say there's a LOT of computer science people in their classes too.

what the fuck compsci, fuck off, REEEE

>>10939490
It's hard to saturate the CS market because of two reasons. One, scenarios where a little bit of code will generate revenue are easy to find. Two, all you need to start a CS company or project (in most cases) is workers and computers. In other words, the investment required to accommodate more CS workers is very low and the potential gain is very high.

>>10939490
You're just blind to the fact that there are as equally many, if not more, engineering students. The problem is that, upon graduation, there are enough $100k+ jobs for all those CS students, while in engineering you're considered lucky if you can even get a job at all. I know classmates who do shitty retail jobs two years after graduating. One works at a movie theater. The most successful of my friends who studied engineering makes $68k in downtown Seattle (basically poverty-tier wages there). I've since left engineering to do data science (I did interdisciplinary CS research in undergrad), but my mechanical engineering degree has set me back considerably in my career.

>>10938226
It has little to do with actual engineering and more to do with managing contractors/management in general.

Is materials engineering worth it?

>>10938226
Maybe you should have become a construction laborer then.

>>10939186
Go to community college. Start at the bottom. I was a high school dropout that started in remedial math.

>>10936035
>Am I going to make big bucks in the future by decommissioning reactors?
Which country?

bump

>>10930888
I'm going to start this year CS & Statistics, how are the odds for me?

>everybody I know have already formed senior design groups
>have to find a group by end of next week
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>10939741
>shit tier graph that counts minimum wage code monkeys as cs jobs to increase the numbers

Does UIUC get much clout when it comes to Engineering? It seems like most people havent heard of it when I talk about it

Realistically speaking, how far can I get without coding. I fucking hate it and avoid doing it unless I absolutely have to (ie simple scripts or just writing configs or whatever). I prefer sticking to CAD and CFD and I plan to continue developing those strengths. What exactly can I do to play to my strengths in both school and a job search?

>>10941868
a lot of job postings ask for cad and sometimes like excel proficiency. I dont think it'd be hard to get a job with a strong CAD portfolio to showcase your experience (if you don't have professional exp that is).

>>10941649
>senior design groups
>senior
Nigga what, most 4th year projects are solo. Are you talking about labs or something different?

>>10941868
I'm EE and my uni only had a couple of mandatory coding subjects in the first year (simple C++/Java shit) and, aside from things like matlab or excel, I haven't touched coding at all in my career. If I need something coded I hand it to the software engineers. I'm with you anon, I fucking despise coding with a passion.

>>10941682
>minimum wage code monkeys
Lol, this is some next level cope. The average webdev codemonkey makes mote than the average senior engineer. Really think about that for a second.

>>10942635
Huh, I've never heard of a school having senior design be a solo project.

>>10939423

>>10942908
>The average webdev codemonkey makes mote than the average senior engineer
This is sadly true for ''senior'' codemonkeys.
Still, it doesn't count as Computer Science work, even if the degree lets you work as a code monkey. Is that so hard to understand?

>>10931322
Was the same but 45hs a week of work, any less than that and I can't pay the bills.
Dropped out and I'm happier.

>>10933747
t. autistic finger

>>10941868
MEP

>>10928857

I'm CAD engineer in EU slavland, small town. Working for 10k strong international corporation.

After 2 years I earn ~€800/month. I don't see possibility of being promoted other than working for 6-10 years in one position.

I want to kill myself when I think about my job and being 30 year old ABET certified Msc.Eng. who has to put up with something like this since he didn't want to leave his country and live as expat.

Hey lads. I'm a chemE student in South America interested in getting a scholarship to study abroad when I get my degree. My country has agreements with Spain, the UK, Germany, France and Italy (among others, but I'm honestly not too interested in the US nor Asia).
Where's the best place to study if I intend to get a master's degree in order to work in the oil industry afterwards? Of course I'd have to also get quite some experience to land a good job, but let's leave that out of the discussion

>>10943814
I don't know exactly why you're not into the US, but they have the best programs for students who want to get into the oil industry. I'd say Texas A&M and Stanford are particularly good for that. France and Germany are generally very good at chemical engineering, but I don't know much about their work on oil and gas, so I don't have much to say about them.

>>10943814
I don't know exactly why you're not into the US, but they have the best programs for students who want to get into the oil industry. I'd say Texas A&M and Stanford are particularly good for that. France and Germany are generally very good at chemical engineering, but I don't know much about their work on oil and gas, so I don't have much to say about them.

>>10943911
Eh I don't know, I think the culture is what puts me off. But if I could get a scholarship for a MSc and some job opportunities to boost my experience, I'd give it a shot.
Another issue is that from what I've read the oil industry is hella competitive in the US and they care a lot about GPA and that stuff, and I'm not in the "graduated with honors" road. But maybe if I get a couple years of experience in an international oil company in my country, I might have a chance

>>10943333
Trips of truth. Happy I wasn't the only one who thought of this image kek

>>10944177
those are quads and checked

>>10944182

should I bother with career fairs, or should I just start applying online? I'm in 3rd year.

>>10942635
No professor wants to grade 30 year long capstone engineering projects when he can just do 6

>>10944585
You will be unemployed your whole life. Get used to that.

>>10936821
Mid to senior managers at industrial construction firms.

>>10944585
yes, go to career fairs and network. Try to kinda look up which companies are attending so you can talk about them when u show up. They will like that you know about them. You might get a reference or 2 desu.

Newly graduated and just had the first few days of actual work. It turns out I'm not too dumb to actually get stuff done. Feels good. Was fearing I'd just be a salary burden and then lose my job

Is there a name for a single mechanical piece with a fin looking thing protruding at an angle to act as a spring?

I'm trying to make a device that'll bend so much at a specific torque. From what I've seen these things are usually irregularly shaped, so idk how I'd even manually calculate the deflection as to not fracture the thing.

>>10941699
I've heard about this school but onlu because they have professors who work in mechanics and im trying to get into school for their programs

Hi /eng/, I want to get a internship as soon as possible. Please give me tips to make a good resume for people that does not have work experience, besides the usual stuff you can find on Google

>>10946448
Just remember nobody else knows what the fuck they're doing, either. Also remember that eventually something you came up with is going to go horribly wrong and it's ok.

>>10946466
Prong?

>>10931322
It's a start up so the company is small. Literally tell your boss/CEO that you're not able to survive on the hours and workload and ask for the workload to either be scaled down or just straight up leave until the summer comes again. You are worthless to the company if you flunk out of school.

If I swap the inputs for my non-inverting op amp, then it will oscillate between the saturation voltages, right?

>>10938421
That's math not engineering. Trust me engineering is piss easy if you have brain cells. I was a physics and Chem E double major and I learned everything about transfer properties in half a semester in a physics class than what it took an engineer a year to learn.

>>10943814
>Chem E
>order to work in the oil industry afterwards?
Absolutely degenerate and rethink your life choices.

>>10928857
>lab partner is another Asian kid who wants to do everything by himself and not explain anything

Why does this keep happening to me?

>>10946466
Leaf spring?

>>10946568
Drop the occasional F-bomb in your resume to show you're serious

>>10947505
this but unironically

>>10947247
he probably wants to do everything by himself because he has access to a lot of previous assignments and if you ask him to explain it to you he probably doesn't know how lmao.

>>10946568
Include relevant coursework, projects, volunteering, clubs, and honors

>>10946568
Any extracurricular activities?

>>10928857
Notice how in the people the engineer is the female, and the workers are men. The reason for this is intentional brainwashing propaganda.

I passed the FE exam but to become an EI or whatever the fuck I need three non family references that can attest to my good behavior. I have no one to ask

ChemE student here
How honked are things?

filling out job applications is so tiresome, even when you can import your linkedin data over and stuff. Its all so tiresome...

>>10947754
phhhhahahhahahahahahahahah lmao wtf where do you live

>>10947754
lmao BTFO

>>10947994
FUCKING NEBRASKA, LOOK AT THIS SHIT

GOD IM SUCH A DUMBFUCK

>>10947754
>>10948305
You don't have 3 professors you could ask? I have like 30. Bro your autism is too severe, this is coming from an ass burger.

>>10948316
I never spoke to a single professor, I showed up, did my work and got on with my life. I didn’t even know the professors name most of the time. I’m never going to get that certificate.

>>10948321
>I never spoke to a single professor
Get some professional help to overcome your severe autism. I mean it, you're not going to be able to succeed in any work environment unless you stop being such an autistic fuck.

>>10948334
What kind of professional help? I don’t speak unless spoken to, most days I don’t speak at all actually.

>>10947652
Spot on.

>>10947726
How can I be the only one who sees this? Are people fucking blind?

>>10948422
Gotta embrace the globohomo, goy.

https://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/uts-to-offer-gender-points-to-encourage-women-in-engineering/11461534

>>10939944
Materials science is the only thing preventing us from developing UFOs, namely doing certain sleek things with copper toroids.

>>10947754
Just make them up lmao. Complete with three burner phone numbers.

I do more math as a data scientist than I ever did working as an engineer. We are hitting comfy levels that shouldn't even be possible.

>>10948626
EEfag here, I'm thinking of applying for data science jobs. Is it worth converting over, and how difficult is it?

>>10928857
>>10929450
>>10929843
>>10930823
I just want to drive the choo choo

>fail Calc II (The Greatest Filter) last semester
>retaking it, trying my absolute hardest in the tutoring center and reaching out every day to the professor
>first quiz was on wednesday
>got 75% anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYIAfiVGluk

>>10948544
Holy shit... Imagine being such a cuck that as a male under these conditions, you still want to pursure an university degree.

>>10946568
I've gotten so many interviews because of this:
https://www.latextemplates.com/template/twenty-seconds-resumecv

But https://www.latextemplates.com/cat/curricula-vitae has many good alternatives.

Credit from https://sites.google.com/site/scienceandmathguide/.. Wait fuck.. Does that mean I basically got my job because of 4chan..? I guess it does

>>10948305
lmaoooooooooooo bro I live in Wyoming all I had to do was send them proof I passed the fucking test

>>10948685
On the upside once you get through Calc 2, 3 (multivariable) is relatively easy.

>>10941558
>going to start stats
>how are the odds for me?
You're going to be able to find that out yourself if you pay attention in class

>>10949396
How do you know it was because of that template and not the stuff on your resume?

>>10930818
>What about liquid diamond?
imagine being this retarded

>>10928864
>civil
Dont worry man the hardest class you're gonna take is Calc 3. Everything else is ez pz. just be CERTAIN to do your EIT or you will be completely fucked as a civil enginerd. .

>>10929450
I've worked with a lot of EE's before and after college. I have only met one that wasn't an embarrassing joke, and he never went to college.

>>10931041
Depends on why you want to learn about kinematics. In 99.9999% of engineering cases you can ignore everything in your kinematics classes and just model it in Solidworks (or whatever cad program). There was only one case (outside of college) where i actually had to pull out the compass and do the kinematics on this 3D of force pivot arm that looked like it might snap if i didnt actually try. As far as dynamics stuff you still need to know that.

>>10931094
I've never had a manager that wasnt an engineer. I've never had an interview that wasn't conducted by engineers. The only interaction with non-engineer managers I ever have are when I call managers from other departments to my meetings and they give me money to make stuff.

>>10931353
Mechanical + CS = Mechatronics Engineer
Mechanical + EE = Faggot
Mechanical + Aero = same thing except for 3 classes
EE = faggot
General Engineering = EE

>>10933412
I actively pursued challenging professors in college and the only truly difficult calculus is calc 3. Calc 1 is a joke, Calc 2 is simply memorization, but calc 3 is actually challenging. There are multiple chapters where a single calculation takes PAGES of work, for ONE problem and it's not so formulaic that it doesnt require actual thought/imagination. Depending on the professor it's the king kong of basic calc.

>>10934640
>Is it true that in America you can retake any class to improve your GPA
Generally if you get less than a "C" in a class then you can retake it, but if you get a "C" or higher then you're stuck with it. In your college career, you get 3 retakes. If you use up your retakes and get lower than a C in another course in your major, then you are now unable to graduate.

That's the rules ive seen but Chinese faggots basically broke all rule enforcement in universities so you can pretty much do whatever you want. If universities actually enforced their rules then there would be zero chinese students and zero chinese shekels filling their coffers.

>>10936781
>Cops make $80k
they also put in insane overtime to get that. engineers just put in 40 hrs a week.

>>10938958
robotics/automation needs Mechanical Engineers, Computer Science, and electrical engineers. You can also get into robotics/automation by being a technician, which sounds more your speed.

>>10939423
>I want to get to actually making my own things, soldering, building, might buy a 3d printer.
You sound like you want to be a technician. Real engineers do very little of the above things because they are supposed to be designing or overseeing. I've had jobs where I literally never even touched an Allen key because i'd always have at least one technician or controls engineer that i directed. Although i have seen a lot of Electrical Engineers with poor management obfuscate their actual jobs to the point that they are assembling analog controllers by hand all day and avoiding actual engineering work.

>>10946466
Cleat spring, detent spring, pawl shim. They have pieces like you describe in bezels of diver wristwatches.

>2 D's on my transcript
>they're both comp-sci classes
I'm never gonna make it, am I?

>>10950738
>engineers just put in 40 hrs a week
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Can anyone tell me a little about engineering physics/sicence? is it a meme or is it worthy? i hardly read about it here and i'm thinking about giving it a try

>>10950657
For liability purposes, you should still be doing gross boundary condition calcs by hand before you turn the crank on your CAD softwares modeling package.

>>10951235
It’s the undergrad degree you get if you plan on going for a career in academia. All the accoutrements of being a bonafide Engineer in case you bomb out of a your inevitable physics/math PhD.

>>10951073
Assuming you don't have any soft skills since you're posting here - yeah you probably are.

>>10950691
>t. Mechanical Engineer trying to get other anons to fall into the same trap you did

Is this a brainlet meme?

>>10929811
This is false. The number of zoomers and millenials applying for engineering is much lower than gen x and boomers. Once the boomers retire, we will have a big shortage of engineerings. The job market for mechanical engineers alone is going to grow 9% (the average of all jobs) in the next few years.

>haven't done any maths in 2 years
>forgotten most of calculus, trig, etc
>start mech e in 8
How fucked am I?

>>10952748
in 8 days*

>>10952748
khanacademy.org

It's not a meme, the site is great.

>>10952952
I have my old textbooks buddy.

>>10931094
Can I do overtime again? How about fuck off and doe!

>>10931434
You can but it's up to you. You should never forget your value or dignity. If you stand up for yourself and simply say 'No' when they try some bullshit, odds are you wont get cut because they actually need you. Ofc this varies contextually but there is no reason that you can't put in a flat 40 every week making a decent salary and having the rest of your time to yourself.

>>10933377
That's literally what intuition is dude

>>10950702
Personally I thought 3 was a cakewalk and 2 was hard. The stuff before series in calc 2 is nothing more than a fever dream to me, but the integrals and time functions in 3 just made so much sense.
The class I used the most paper for the least amount of problems was diff eq. I couldn't believe that shit.

>>10952748
bump.
Is it actually possible for me to cover algebra, trig, and calc in 8 days?

>tfw studying engineering at university ranked 45th out of 71
Should I just commit suicide now?

>>10953087
p.s.
Could have went to one ranked 20th, but it was too far away and I chose the closest to me.

wow lads, had like 4 phone interviews this past week with 2 technical interviews booked for this coming week. God I just want to start working already FUCK.

>>10953174
When did you graduate?

>>10953094
nobody cares. Just do well in it, get involved, get an internship, just try to excel while there and get your degree. Once you land your fist job, employers care about your work experience more than anything at that point.

>>10953181
This past May. Had no success for the first 3 months sending out massive amounts of apps. A friend of mine, who did recruiting etc for a living, looked over my resume and fixed the work experience part. I then posted it in rebbit to get critiqued for the engineering part and fixed that. Now it seems my resume is much better with the wording than before.

>>10951312
it's not my fault that I'm autistic.

>>10953189
Thanks anon, as pathetic as this sounds, I needed to hear that. My uni has a lot of links with industry and I've already attended some lectures by engineers from BAE.

>>10953199
How much stuff can you remember from your studies since finishing?

>>10952748
I haven't done calc 3/diffyQ in 2 years, and emag in 1 year, and I'm taking signals, and electrodynamics this term. So far it's pretty easy.

>>10929731
How many hours a week do you work and how much do you make? YoE?

>>10953209
Did they spend time to bring you up to speed?

>>10950634
What do you do? Which engineering major would you recommend/

>>10929450
I signed up for EE, then changed to Mech at the last minute. Don't reget it.

>>10953209
>diffyQ

>>10947726
No one gives a shit

Everytime I have to share classes with physics students I'm perplexed by their pretentiousness.

>>10939741
Bullshit!
>>10948347
That is not normal. You should be initiating little conversations in your dad to day life.
I used to be like you and I had no irl friends. You NEED to talk to people and be more proactive about talking. I swear to god your life will improve so much. I believe in you.

>>10928857
Hey engiebros,I'm working on a senior project, with a group of people. This might off a really dumb question, but can you help me come up with a group name. I want the name to be cool and in reference to electronics/electrical engineering.
I want a good name because, in a hypothetical situation in which everything goes wrong, our profs and sponsors, can looks at our project and say "At least they had a cool name."

>>10953302
I know. I cringe every time I hear someone say that too.

>>10953753
What's the project about?

>>10953213
9/80 schedule with every other Friday off and I very rarely work more than 40 hours a week unless it's a turnaround or if my unit is really tits up. But also, my plant is closing down and I'm getting laid off at the end of the year so I guess that's not a typical situation and maybe I would be working more hours if my plant wasn't totally dysfunctional.

$91k base plus bonuses and 401k match and all that stuff. That's with like 3 years experience now but I didn't get a raise this year since we're all getting fired. I started out working at this same place but as a contractor for $40/hr. This year with severance and stuff I'll be making a cool $130k so I'm not even that mad about losing my job. I turned down a few offers recently ranging from $88k to $95k so I guess hopefully my next job will be like $95k-ish unless I get lucky and talk my way into six figures.

>>10953094
Lmao my school is tied for something like 150th place in overall rankings, who gives a shit? Interviewers ask me more about my school's football team than its academic ranking as determined by some fucking magazine.

>>10953881
It has something to embedded computers. We haven't got that much information about it because we are still waiting for our sponsor to give us more information.

>>10953207
I'd say anything ith hardware with FPGA's and HDL is pretty fresh, programming etc. The rest I have to restudy for the interviews.

>>10953753
"Ein Volt, Ein Ohm, Ein Ampere"

>>10931071
30 minute drive.

>>10931071
Not work but my uni is 2 hours away

>>10950766
>Although i have seen a lot of Electrical Engineers with poor management obfuscate their actual jobs to the point that they are assembling analog controllers by hand all day and avoiding actual engineering work.
lol, accurate. ee doesnt require time management or mental maturity. just being good at manipulating symbols
t. ee

>>10955362
I feel you, anon. It sucks to get up 5 AM to attend to uni at 8 AM

>>10953912
Did you do any internships in college? Would you recommend ChemE to your past self? What advice would you give a current freshman?

>>10956082
Not to mention when i finish my classes at 7PM on tuesdays and i fight to not fall asleep on my way back

what should I expect for an on-site technical interview for a hardware engineering role? Is it just going over my resume and stuff? I looked the company up and they make hardware to for testing disk drives and stuff like that. Outside of maybe pcb related stuff, I don't know what I should study to prepare for it...

im so fucking lonely bros

>>10957475
go to bed anon

I hate medfags so fucking much

>>10957779
be hardcore and do med school after engineering school

>>10956362
If you don't know how to answer something just explain how you would go about figuring it out

>>10929472
Industrial engineer working at a plant. At the office at my computer I wear normal clothes but even walking through the plant I have to wear steel toes and coveralls

>>10957799
Honestly this. Would have been a much better career path desu.

>>10953428
That is the problem.

>>10959171
m8, lemme tell you that engineering is still VERY much a good ol' boys club. women burn the fuck out in this industry or husband up in the first 2 years.

>>10929472
MEPS consultants do when they do site visits.

super dumb question.
I lost weight the normal, expected way, counting kcal and entering a deficit.
But I'd still like to pig out and then have to enter a fast afterwards to get my BMI down to the lower range(pant size concerns)
So I just thought how could I get the excess kcal out without too much effort.
Could you possibly implant a device that would draw energy from bodyheat to charge say a bank of caps(so they have good charge/discharge cycle strength) and then to obey thermodynamics, wirelessly transfer that outside to a bank of something else?
How much kcal would the body be forced to compensate for the drop, since it must always maintain 37c?

would it be messed up if say I get a job offer to this company that has some kinda bad reviews on glassdoor and just stay for a year then leave for something better? Would that look bad on me as an entry level engineer or nah? This might be the only offer I have on my plate if everything goes well and I need a fucking job

>>10960415
>>>/fit/fast

How do I optimize something with a lot of variables that's highly non-convex? Tried a GA and it failed me. I can calculate the gradient and follow it, but there are local minima everywhere.

im not an engineer

>>10929472
I just finished my second EE internship at the power co-op in my town. Overshoes, Vest, Glasses and hardhat are required any time you are working on equipment outside in the field like Automated distribution devices or radio towers and especially substations. Seeing as EEs draw out substations and DA locations, yes you get to go outside with your hard hat atleast once a week.