/sci/ - Science & Math

>its another IQ thread
but yeah thats occured to me. Read Nick Land.

>>10932911
>Fermi's "great barrier"
>>>/x/

>is how most civilizations devolve into leftism
>>>/pol/

>>10932935
>trillions of galaxies
>aliens can't exist

>>10932934
Whether you think IQ is inherently genetic, or just cultural, it's still a good measure of how a person is capable of participating in and maintaining a high-tech society.

>>10932938
Fermi's "paradox" is science fiction. Aliens exist on their own planets just fine.

>>10932947
So are Von Neumann probes unfeasible?

>>10932911

How about you unironically kill yourself for being retarded.

>>10932956
Not an argument.

>>10932949
Any civilization advanced enough to make it to space is advanced enough to know it is pointless to leave their own solar system.
The same is true for making self replicating probes. All scifi tech relies on a fundamental missing factor of communication over vast distances between star systems.

>>10932957

And your argument is any better? You are using "devolve" to describe both leftism and the stone age. Which would imply stone age societies practiced leftist thought processes and egalitarianism which no historical document shows.

>>10932968
>The same is true for making self replicating probes.

People make probes for the same reason they have kids (outside of muh dick). They know their lifespans are limited, so they want to pass some of their ego and memes down to the next generation, as a form of extending their own life. I could see a space-faring species viewing Von Neumann probes as a way of extending their existence beyond their own solar system, even if it's only symbolically. Why did Carl Sagan support putting human art and literature on the Voyager probes?

>>10932983
I didn't say leftism was inherent to the stone age, just that it would lead to the stone age. Also, I use "leftism" as an umbrella term for most egalitarian thought. Neoliberal capitalism was considered "leftist" by the French monarchy.

>>10932947
Aliens being magically confined to their own planets is science fiction.

>>10932911
a

>>10932968
>Any civilization advanced enough to make it to space is advanced enough to know it is pointless to leave their own solar system.

And yet they will still do it, for the same reason why we climb Everest. Because it is there.

>>10932911
The Chinese actually actively genocide non-Hans. It's only white people that are retarded, which begs the question of why you are excluding white people from the retard phenotypes. Whites are just light skin niggers.

>>10932911

FUCK NIGGERS

>>10932996
They're just naive, and uneducated. If whites were ruled by a ruthless racist dictator, they'd probably do the same.

>>10932994
>And yet they will still do it
I'm afraid not. The resources needed to accomplish such a task have already been claimed by billionaires for their helicopters, yachts, and private jets - and they will be used up.

>>10933017
No, we tried. We gave whites Hitler, the most efficient leader in human history, and they still got side-tracked with pointless hangups like anti-semitism. Whites are niggers.

>>10932996
I don't disagree with that in spirit. It's objectively true that China's government is more rational overall than the West's (despite engaging in a lot of pollution at the moment).

However, I know whites have the capacity for rational, high-tech societies. From 1400 to 1800, whites essentially dominated the globe. We've just been corrupted by Christianity and liberalism/leftism, both of which preach egalitarianism. Egalitarianism leads to open borders, and electing nigger emperors with no clothes.

China has communist aesthetics as relics of Mao's revolution, but China itself is actually a Dengist ethnocentric technocracy. Chinese proles are expected to obey orders from the state bureaucrats, not vice-versa. Even most white leftists say that China "isn't real communism".

>>10932911

>>10933027
The (((Rothschilds))) de facto controlled the British Empire via its banking system. Israel was created for Jews after the British had already conquered Palestine. Churchill was also a Zionist. As I said, Christianity led to this weakness, as many white Christians feel they have an obligation to defend the "chosen tribe".

>>10933022
Yet billionaires are the ones pushing spaceflight forward after decades of stagnation..

>>10933043
Those Jews only got so powerful because whites had severe autism regarding interest payments. Had whites never been retarded, Jews would be just your typical religious minority. No more politically powerful than the fucking mormons. But you did that. And now you get angry that Jews want to use their money to shape the world? Everyone has a right to use their money however they fucking please. You are just salty your race is retarded.

>>10933022
Anarcho-communism couldn't maintain space flight either, because the idea of a state telling people to do things triggers them.

How are you gonna make niggers on the other side of the globe stop cutting-down forests, if you live in a small anarchist commune and have no power outside of it?

>>10933052
Yeah and remind me what religious text said collecting interest was heresy.

>>10933056
They are buying the tools the need to do that from us.

>>10933033
I always wondered, why do ALL Chinese political leaders dye their hair jet black. The guys are obviously old men and should have grey to white hair, yet every fucking one dyes his hair the darkest shade of black they can find.

>>10933069
Seeing as Xi Jinping is very sensitive over being compared to Winnie the Pooh, I wouldn't doubt that he dyes his hair also.

>>10933069
a passive way to say they are fit and worthy of a title they are not worthy of nor fit for it.

>>10933065
China is colonizing Africa now. The nigs can just buy chainsaws from them.

>>10933064
The Torah and Talmud are basically Jewish folk stories. They are literally just mythicized re-tellings of the lives of the most notorious patriarchs in Jewish history, passed down only as a guide for future Jews who may wish to aspire to that level of prosperity.

Then Christians came along, got swindled by some random dude, and they started reading the Torah with none of the historical context Jews do. Their low IQ of whites led one thing to another and next thing you know whites were enriching Jews left and right for absolutely no reason. And you want to blame Jews?

The worst you can say is that Jews just got lucky. Seriously, that is all there is to it. Jews got very fucking lucky that the leaders of an entire continent happened to be some of the most retarded people in human history.

Also, ancient Jewish law only prohibited Jews from charging interest to other Jews. This means Christians were completely allowed to charge interest not only to Jews but to Christians. Why do you keep blaming Jews?

>>10933084
Emperor Constantine saw Christianity as aesthetic or convenient. Whatever it was, the rest was memes passed-down to dark age peasants. I don't really blame them for it.

Overpopulation is a myth. Nature vs nurture is not a correct way to view genetics. It's the right wing that wants to destroy the planet with the "infinite consumption" you mentioned in your post, but I'm guess you're also a climate change denier. Racism seeks to destroy meritocracy and intelligence by putting skin color ahead of intelligence.

Back to /pol/.

>>10933084
I don't blame jews
but I will say that jews are white, for whatever that is worth

>>10933081
so your path is unsustainable as well

>>10933094
Neoliberal capitalism isn't right-wing. Egalitarian democracies are incapable of preventing consumption because the proles always want more bread and circuses.

>>10933094
>what is affirmative action

>>10933095
>>10933093
Then this is your last chance. Right now the entire west is in a Weimar Republic stage. This means that Hitler 2.0 is alive right now. This is your last chance to make him rise to power, but this time DON'T FUCK IT UP WITH ANTISEMITISM. Numbers 24:9-19 is very clear about what happens to antisemites. If you don't fuck it up and ally with Israel, you can take over the entire world. Israel is already basically doing a holocaust on their borders, we are just waiting for you to do the same to Asia and South America. We are fucking waiting. Come on whites, this is your last chance. Otherwise, get ready to bow down to Zhang.

>>10933106
The right wing wants to lift any environmental regulations on companies. The left wants carbon taxes, alternative energy, and green alternatives to things. You're just doing some insane mental gymnastics. Everyone knows the right wing are pro-capitalism and pro-fossil fuels. Calling people proles does not make you smart. You're just a 4chan shitposter that is just here to try to justify your mental delusions.

>>10933114
You're referring to neocons, not authoritarian nationalists.

>>10932911
Basically jews. As social engineering improves, smart people become a threat and when they are culled, totalitarian regime is finally established and sky is closed.

>>10933123
You mean like in China, Brazil, Russia, or North Korea?

>>10933114
Climate change sucks but will not destroy modern civilization. Dysgenics and low intelligence immigrants just might. The left is much bigger threat as a Great Fitlter than the right.

>>10932986
>I could see
You can see whatever you want but you aren't making von neuman probes so your point is invalid.

>>10932994
>And yet they will still do it
You have no evidence of this.

>>10933135
This thread has nothing to do with the Fermi paradox or any Great Filter. Get over yourself.

>>10933114
>Everyone knows the right wing are pro-capitalism and pro-fossil fuels.
And the left isn't? Fuck off. Both are completely under the control of corporate interests.
It's a game of good cop bad cop, and which is the good cop varies depending on whether you prefer low taxes or gender/race issues

Block all liberals. Block all conservatives. They're essentially just retards flinging their own shit at eachother

>>10933114
The left is largely responsible for anti-nuclear sentiment and policies, exacerbating global warming into a significant global threat.

>>10933133
China and North Korea are literally more capable of helping the environment because they have laws mandating population levels.

Brazil is led by a neocon Zionist (Bolsonaro). And even the previous leftist governments still supported unlimited population growth and consumption.

Russia is more like a plutocracy based around Putin and his allies. The Russian nationalist party (Rodinya) is pretty small. They also have laws against denying the Holocaust, and have tons of Muslim citizens. IDK what their environmental impact really is though.

>>10932911
>Balkan - black
>Cucked western Europe - white
Sure thing. I live in Bosnia, near Croatian border on north and I've seen maybe 3-4 black people who actually live on Balkans. Sure, there is immigrant wave passing through to Italy and Germany but they don't want to stay here.

>>10933145
you're a fucking moron.

>>10933141
No, that's what you're doing on 4chan.

>>10933138
>This thread has nothing to do with the Fermi paradox or any Great Filter. Get over yourself.

Read the fucking original post dummy.

>>10933151
not an argument

>>10933151
It's always hippies protesting nuclear energy, not boomers or rednecks.

>>10933153
>the reason we can't into space is because the government wont genocide minorities!
>hey, this isn't a /pol/ thread, you shill!

>>10933161
excellent use of green text.
lol

>>10933161
The reason we can't into space is Tyrone votes to re-allocated the space program budget towards more gibs.

Why you whitebois need to go to space 'n sheeit anyway?

>>10933160>>10933161
here let me try
>the reason we can't into nuclear is because the government won't genocide hippies
>hey, this isn't a /pol/ thread, you shill!

>>10933174
Where's the lie though? Not saying hippies should be genocided, just that them being able to influence national policy leads to irrationality in the long run.

The same goes for rednecks who vote against eugenics because "all souls are the same to Jebus".

>>10933168
>Why you whitebois need to go to space 'n sheeit anyway?
Because they're retarded.

>>10933177
You think "leftists" don't like nuclear huh? Just look at France you fucking moron
Have another beer.

>>10933033

>From 1400 to 1800 whites essentially dominated the globe
>We've been corrupted by Christianity

So when Europeans were having huge ideological conflicts between themselves in the religious league wars over Christianity they were dominating the globe, yet now that atheism has become the norm amongst whites they're starting to collapse because they've finally been corrupted by the religion after 2000 years of being Christians.

Interesting thought process you have.

>>10933177
There is not enough nuclear material in the world to replace coal current consumption, and dealing with waste is still a serious issue. It is not a viable replacement.

>>10933183
>France is leftist

hurrrr

>>10933186
Wrong, there is enough uranium and thorium to last for a thousand years at current consumption levels, millions with breeder reactors.

>inb4 proven uranium reserves is all that exists

>>10933183
France is abandoning nuclear as we speak. French leftists are as retarded as any other leftists.

>>10933184
It's not about Christianity, so much as it is modern Protestant interpretations of Christianity. Europeans in the 1700s wheren't afraid to genocide and conquer primitive retards of other cultures. Now, the majority of Christians believe in flooding white countries with nonwhites because "they're all the same to Jebus", and love it when the Pope kisses a Muslim niggers' feet.

>>10933187
uhhh..
YUP
That's a yes. France is leftist. lol
Let me repeat. France is liberal. France is about as liberal as they come.
God damn you sure are something stupid....

>>10933186
seawater uranium extraction is borderline viable right now

>>10933192
>>10933195
lol have another beer, fatty

>>10933197
And who was to say that France having nuclear reactors was a direct policy of the leftist parties, and not the right-wing parties or private industrialists?

If I remember correctly, France shut-down several of its nuclear reactors recently due to environmentalists screeching.

>>10933183
is this a leftist to you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Messmer

>>10933198
And who was to say that France having nuclear reactors was a direct policy of the leftist parties, and not the right-wing parties or private industrialists?

If I remember correctly, France shut-down several of its nuclear reactors recently due to environmentalists screeching.

>>10933210
>>10933211
>The delusional ramblings of a fermented soul...

>>10933216
What's your obsession with making insults based around beer? Pretty weird.

>>10933219
I know a drinker when I see one.

>>10933222
I'm drinking V8.

>>10933226
You're a drinker. big time

>>10933042
seriously, Babby sitting? It's just exploitation labor and resource

>how would it even be possible to counter the trend egalitarianism has towards allowing infinite consumption and expansion?
this is literally the entire point of ecosocialism

>>10932934
sucks that he had that whole psychotic break, he had some really great ideas with the CCRU and such. he hasn't really produced anything except a bunch of neoreactionary word-vomit since.