/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10928405
Because if God exists, he's a mathematicians. That means that in heaven we will all be high ranking generals, while scientists will be thrown in the brainlet bin.

>>10928405
Mathematicians aren't scientists.

Mathematicians are axiom/proof oriented and rational.
Physicists and life scientists are falsifiability/evidence oriented and empirical.
Mathematicians who deal in abstractions disconnected from base reality on a daily basis can understand higher level theological and metaphysical concepts easily where scientists have to shoehorn metaphors from their field into theological concepts which always fails. Example: using the position-velocity uncertainty principle to epicly destroy contingency argument libtards or whatever.
Interestingly, mathematicians are more likely to be closer to Catholicism but engineers are more likely to be Protestant. Engineers are also more likely to support YEC and flat Earth. So take that as you will.

>>10928421
Yes, you're right, my bad. I should have said "than scientists"

>>10928433
basically what this guy said, but less cringe.
Mathematicians, Philosophers, Logicians, and Theologians are all very similar in that they realize all that exists is mind, and anything perceived at all is only mind. They extrapolate universal rationalistic principles and its obvious god exists if you think like that

Scientists, Biologists, physicists etc assume that the universe's existence is "stronger" then what we percieve. In other words we see reality, and things like thoughts, numbers, abstractions dont exist accept as a reductionist states of neurons firing

>>10928405
>Why are mathematicians so much more likely to be religious than other scientists?
>Than other scientists
Mathematicians aren't scientists.

>>10928405
Platonism poisoned the well.

>>10928562
This.

>>10928405
because they only care about make believe stuff and not real shit

Mathematicians are mostly autists and schizos. None of them go to an actual church, if they mention a God it's some personal self-aggrandizing headcanon designed either to glorify their own particular gay field of research (schizos) or to justify their intense interest in boring fiddly shit (autists) or to try and sound deep instead of nerdy when failing to pick up chicks (the remainder)

>>10928433
engineers confirmed chads

>>10928562
>>10929489
Platonism is true and there's no argument you can make against it.
>>10928405
The answer to your question is actually really simple: Mathematicians are simply more intelligent (on average) than other STEM fields.

Only mathematicians understand what infinity means

>>10929544
>Platonism is true
found the platonist

I would like to question your assumption. What's it based on? I've studied maths in central europe, where I think we were about at least 80% atheists.

>>10928405
mathematicians have no clue about nature

>>10929558
Was it czechia by any chance?

>>10928405
Mathematicians aren't religious but something like 80% of them are platonic idealists.

>>10928405
Mathematicians live in a world of perfect ideas based on axioms.
Exactly like religion.

>>10929516
This, when I'm chatting up whores at party or bar I usually try to sell math as the subline language of the universe itself, and if she's receptive I'll compare the experience proving a theorem with having an orgasm. Still a virgin btw.

>>10928405
schizos, you talk to math objects

>>10928405
Mathematicians actually need to have decent understanding of logic and reasoning to succeed. Physicists, especially 'modern' theoretical physicists, lack self awareness and are plagued with cognitive dissonance. Biologists are basically babbies playing around with materialist philosophy and are often far from being 'actual scientists'. Would you consider a chink who tries to reverse engineer western tech and simply tears it down rices it in order to duplicate it as an innovator?

>>10928405
Mathematicians are all autists who just regurgitate what their professor tells them to.
Scientists, on the other hand, think for themselves and possess creativity and critical thought.

>>10929723
You don't need sex when you have theorems, anon

>>10929544
>nothing can be green unless Green imparts its essence to it from beyond the physical realm
Platonism is pseud garbage

>>10928417
I just hope you didn't hear that from a cringeworthy rapper. Even though I am inclined to agree

>>10929661
>ignoring details that shatter the isomorphism

>>10929823
It's the opposite.
Mathematicians demand proof for every statement, physicists read the textbook and accept it without question.

>>10928405
They fall for the aesthetics memes more, just like physicists do with their Susy shit.

>>10929901
There's nothing pseudo about that, moron. Just saying something is "pseud" doesn't mean anything.
Meanwhile, the scientific method has hit the limit and shown reality is local, stochastic, and nonrealist which completely blows materialism and physicalism out of the set of valid ontology. Those philosophies are the actual pseud shit.

>>10929661
mathematics works like this:
>let's say that an object satisfies these properties
>what else can we say about the object

religion works like this:
>this statement is absolutely true and unqestionable
>if something in real life happens which contradicts the statement, yeah well, god works in mysterious ways I guess

>>10928551
>they realize all that exists is mind, and anything perceived at all is only mind.
Wrong. Classical theists are realists, physical existence is independent of any humans needed to observe it.

natural laws are god's laws, in obvious and obscure senses.

>>10928417
fucking kek

>>10928405
I don't think you are correct about that. Sources?

>>10928551

>its obvious god exists if you think like that

Ya dun goofed

>>10929516
You are mostly right, but I am a physicist and mathematician, and I don't do any of the socially weird things you described. Nor do any of my friends in the fields. But some of them do like to sound deep and have some dumb ass personalised idea of god or religion, which doesn't gel really with any organised religion. Just a by-product of them being overwhelmed by the beauty and complexity of the universe, and catastrophically failing to realise they are all subjective notions.

>>10928405
Because the question what is real and what isn't is outside of their field of expertise.

>>10928405
Just a guess, but maybe it works the other direction.

Somebody who is raised religious is unlikely to want to study biology since it disagrees with their beliefs, math isn't particularly related to theological claims and so is more accessible.

>>10929548
They don't. Number juggling is not understanding.

>>10930933
Back to number crunching, pseud, scientific method didn't show that.

>>10931904
doing mathematics is not number juggling

>>10931874
>it disagrees with their beliefs
How in the fuck does biology of physics disagree with religious beliefs?

>>10932022
Physics: Michio Kaku told me the universe can and does create itself out of nothing.

Biology: Evolution or something