/sci/ - Science & Math

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLDhiEjMrng
It's ring city out there. Super Heavy? Another Starship?

space sucks

>>10901703
Space doesn't suck...

... It blows

>>10901748
your mom blows (my dick)

First for slow and steady wins the race

>electron launch
>dragon 2 in oct/nov
>$2bn xprize to land on the moon
not bad for a monday

>>10901754
You're abit late there buddy. Oh wait!

>>10901761
>nasa awarding $7 billion for cargo launches to the gateway

>>10901779
>nasa awarding $7 billion to SLS for cargo launches to the gateway
FTFY

So the announcement for KSP2 gave me inspiration to play KSP. My problem is that I can't really decide on what to do so I end up hardly actually playing the game. What are your mission ideas, /sfg/? Let's just use sandbox mode. I'll post some progress.

>>10901800
realism overhaul propellant depot on Phobos named richard shelby memorial station

>>10901783
Northrop will win. SpaceX will probably win. Who knows after that?

>>10901869
1. Northrop
2. ULA
3. SpaceX
4. Rocketlab with Electron Heavy
5. Roscosmos with Buran, literally just dug out from under a collapsed hangar and dusted off

>>10901804
I don't have much space left on my computer for that kind of mods, but I can do a propellant depot on Ike named Richard Shelby Memorial Station.

>>10901661
my $$$$ says Super Heavy

>>10901800
there's a general on /vg/ right now
come post with me, I'm working on my airbreathing SSTO flight profile

>>10901800
Mun/Minmus lander, manned, two stage, uses ISRU on the surfaces of both moons to enable return to Kerbin, fully reusable

>softbank lost $460m on funding oneweb
>space command establishment unlikely on tuesday, thursday looks more plausible

>>10901907
>there's a general on /vg/ right now
wasn't the general banned for doxxing and molesting the mexican pr guy who inexplicably decided to do all the PR on 4chan

>>10901920
yeah but it's back

>>10901917
>>softbank lost $460m on funding oneweb
ha, fuck em

>>10901800
I hope there's a discount for people that bought the full-fat original, as I was under the impression that everything they say KSP 2 has would just be updates/DLC for 1

>>10901661
Are those enough rings for the full stack yet?

>>10902499
No
SuperHeavy needs about 38 rings, that's only 11 rings laid out

>>10902012
Dude, we shit out 30 gigatons of CO2 every year on earth. We don‘t need a fucking megastructure to produce 40 Megatons.

>>10902524
I meant with the two pieces they already have.

>>10901754
The financial race.

>>10902539
Oh shit you said kilograms even. Puny 40kt of atmosphere lmao.

>>10902499
we think so

>>10901869
ULA and Northrop. Maybe they'll award something to Blue Origin because they know they'll never send anything in space.
SpaceX will be pushed aside because of upper stage under performance or excessive lift capability that is not needed for the mission profile.

>>10902548
Like vaporize a single ship lmao.

>>10901920
Wtf

When is the hop again?

>>10902615
God willing, in the next four days. If only the FAA could get their collective head out of their ass...

>>10902630
Fucking FAAgot

>>10902548
>>10902539
Its almost like Earth and Mars are different planets with different atmosphere. Who would have thunk?

Has SpaceX worked out a practical way to stop everyone dying of radiation poisoning on the Starship earth-mars transits?

>>10902875
Yes brute force because they have the mass budget for it.

>>10902875
Not a SpaceX concern, that's NASA problem.

>>10902875
Methane shielding.

>>10902875
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Radiation Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Build The Fuel And Water Tanks Around The Crew Compartments Like Nigga Just Create A Barrier

>>10901920
all that plus the mod/janny harassment & ban evasion, and who can forget the bestiality

>>10902861
cry harder nigger
artificial magnetosphere around Mars is useless

>>10902884
I don't get it. They are surrounding the crew cabin with mass of some kind?

>>10902875
unironically the exact storm-shelter technique envisioned last century, you take the cosmic ray dose because it doesn't matter and you take the normal solar charged particle dose because it doesn't matter, and you hop into a closet surrounded by your food and water supply when there's a big flare headed your way. It's simple and easy, which means it's cheap, and that's a nightmare for NASA who requires every project take infinite time and money and be as complicated and marginally effective as possible.

>>10902933
Not the cabin, they're going to pack the food and water supplies around a small internal volume that the people climb into and spend a few hours in the event of a solar flare, the mass blocks the radiation spike because though they're high in number the particles all have low energy, and once the flare has passed they can get back out and stretch their legs again.

>>10902920
>mod/janitor harassment and ban evasion
there's nothing worse for them than disrespecting their authority like that, no wonder they got shut down

>>10902940
>get selected for Mars mission
>solar flare headed your way
>get packed into the solar flare tube with 20 other people
>end up sandwiched between the wall and qt3.14
>she is visibly and audibly disgusted the entire time

Being space incel is nightmare

>>10903005
>get unsolicited boner
>ends up being squished into her
>somehow find a gap in her space pants into her vagina
>she’s disgusted and horrified, but also apparently strangely aroused, as if you have awakened some kind of dark repressed fetish she has had.
>you cream inside her
Thus the story of the first star child begins.

>>10903005
aah, that's hot

>>10902937
>requires every project take infinite time and money and be as complicated and marginally effective as possible

Taking lessons from the UK civil service

>>10903018
Based

propellant depots

propellant depots

>>10903134
>>10903119
Your mother is a dick propellant depot

>>10903119
>>10903134
Stop trying to kill that meme, Shelby.

>>10901878
>Buran
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6E_2YiRPZo

plz

bring back reusable Energia while their at it too

>>10903018
Is it possible to nut in space? It is even possible to get a boner?

>>10903175
Can't see why not.

>>10903175
I believe the "official" line is that it's possible but really hard (pun intended). Zero G makes it easier to actually get a boner but harder to keep it up. Also keep in my mind that the inside of space ship smells like people who haven't washed in a month and farts. The positioning and movement makes it really difficult to have actual intercourse as well.

That's why a lot of proposed LEO tourist space stations feature really small complicated cabins for couples. They have to have handholds everywhere.

>>10902499
still need to catch more rings

>>10903215
It's also tricky to achieve penetration without, um, a structure to help you with, um, the docking process. You ain't getting in without something to push against. On both sides.

>>10903170
Energia was the only valuable part of the Buran program, Buran was just a Shuttle clone that was divorced from a role in being part of the launch vehicle, which is a very smart thing to have done.

>>10903256
>>10903215
I've just had the BEST idea for when space tourism take off: RCS lingerie.

>>10903264
Or maybe just an ass rocket. That would probably work. Probably. With enough practice you could probably even gimbal it. Either way it's guaranteed fun.

>>10903256
just fucking grab her pelvis and jam it in

>SLS will never fly
>Orion will never fly
>Artemis will be canceled.

>>10903256
So it's threesomes only?

>>10903314
best timeline

>>10903175
Trust me I can nut anywhere

>>10903319
You'll know we've truly reached space when the first space porno gets filmed.

>>10902875

That's just one of many problems. Unless we can bring the travel time down to like 3 months Mars flight is bullshit. Astronauts after 6 months in zero G will be weak as babies.

I can see new space stations, permanent base on the Moon and next gen space telescopes all being launched by Starship but Mars is still far away.

NERVA 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

https://www.space.com/vp-pence-national-space-council-webcast-august-2019.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

>>10903340
>Astronauts after 6 months in zero G will be weak as babies.

So give them SARMs (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators) to help maintain muscle.

>>10903377
But can they build muscle in space?

>>10903374
>nuclear thermal fission rocket for earth to mars
>nuclear thermal fission for lasers to deflect orbital debris
MUH

I graduated with a degree in aerospace engineering a few years ago, and since graduation I have been working in the automotive industry. My location does not have much opportunities in aerospace, let alone space/rocketry. I've been unable to relocate up until recently, so I have been looking for work throughout the US for the past few months.

Getting an aerospace job with no aerospace experience is incredibly difficult, even if the content of the job is identical to what I'm already doing in automotive. I have applied to tens if not a hundred jobs and written unique cover letters for each role. I have even made short value proposal videos to try and set myself apart (they all went unwatched). I have only had one interview with ULA for a manufacturing position, but I did not get an offer.

Manufacturing is probably the only way to get my foot in the door in aerospace. I have acknowledged this despite not being interested in the field. However, I feel that my cover letters aren't being read as my resume is immediately thrown out due to lack of industry experience.

Long story short - how should I go about breaking into the aerospace field following a several-year stint in automotive after graduation? Is it impossible without having a connection that'll do the legwork for me?

>>10903340
Mars flights don't have to take place in 0G dude. Don't think like NASA, where technology is scary but retrofitting human biology to work in microgravity is perfectly reasonable. Spin gravity via tethers and counterweights is how we will go everywhere in space, it makes too much sense and is too simple to bother doing it any other way.

>>10903340
>Spend the months in journey to Mars working out 5-6 hours a day with special equipment
>Work out 3-4 hours a day on Mars itself in addition to normal activities
>Come back to Earth no worse than an ISS crew member who spent a year in LEO

Add on muscle growth stimulants and you would be fine. The radiation dose would be fairly negligible as well, as long as the Martian hab is shielded or below the surface.

I think we could do Mars right now if we could build an updated Saturn V

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1163676464069242881

still no FAA approval

>>10903499
The FAA is keenly aware that is just a hobby vanity project but one that could result in a great disaster. We are talking about TONS of EXPLOSIVES that could KILL PEOPLE.

Of course the Authorities will be worried. I too am worried this is even being considered! Had it been happening in my country the one responsible for such risk to the general public would have been imprisoned long ago and never would have gotten the chance to get that far in the first place.

Wake up america, stop being a frontier nation and join the 21st century. The World is waiting.

>>10903340
>yfw the nasa plan involves 2 years in zero g for 1 week of flag planting fun

>>10903452
NASA's nuclear thermal rocket program is well funded too because of shelby. Aaaaaaaaaaannd oh shit, it turns out that Russian nuclear incident might not have actually been a test of their nuclear powered cruise missile gone wrong, it might very well have been a test for the space program involving a nuclear reactor. If that's the case space based nuclear power may have been pushed back another decade or so. Why do the Russkis have to ruin everything involving nuclear power?

https://spacenews.com/sls-contractors-expect-first-launch-in-2021/

>>10903548
If commercial comes to dominate heavy launch and the Moon, shelby and co have no choice but pick another host for their parasit - dedication to spaceflight.
Space based nuclear... stuff.
Yep. Strategic national asset, definitely required for Mars until further notice, and of course very very expensive. Not to mention there is very little chance for conmen to worm their way into that business and disrupt key national industries.
Sounds too good to be true.

>>10903548
>nuclear rockets
>in the atmosphere
>unironically
This is some serious levels of panic response to SpaceX running rings around old space.

>>10903534
>Wake up america, stop being a frontier nation and join the 21st century. The World is waiting.
How about the rest of the world should start carrying its own weight and join the frontier. We're waiting on the moon for you.

>>10901878
Russia still have relatively intact second Buran orbiter.
But only existing Energiya booster was indeed destroyed with first Buran.
It unlikely to come back, because russians lost technology for most vital part of Eneriya - RD-0120 main stage engines.

>>10903340
>Unless we can bring the travel time down to like 3 months Mars flight is bullshit

Good thing that we can.

>>10903682
>Wacky hijinks of a small-time Belter salvageman who zips around in the heavily retrofitted shell of the surplus Buran he bought off a junk dealer way back in the early (20)70's

>>10903682
>relatively intact second Buran orbiter
nah lad. it's been stripped of most of its internal components.

>>10903340
Powered-mobility surface EVA suits? Quarity Japanese exoskereton for strenuous in-hab activity?

Also Mars gravity is 40%, that counts for a lot.

>>10903340
There is a relatively simple solution to the gravity issue - take two Starships, attach them to by the nose by ~500 m kevlar tether, and spin them. The nose is already built strong enough for this & has attachment points, since it is hauled up by a crane to the launch tower anyways, and spinning it fast enough for even .5 g would solve all sorts of issues.

>>10903340
with the right work out regiment no, they also don't need to be all that strong for 1/3 earth grav, and even current astros that come back/came back catch up very quickly.

The rad thing is like a few packs of smokes, long term habitation protection in eva suits, and solar flares which just have a water shielded compartment. These are not complicated problems, just uncomfterable because we can't wave them away

>>10903714
Isn't one of the main points of the orbital refueling driven architecture that is starship , to cut travel time to ~3 months making the whole spin gravity thing redundant?

Just rotate the 9m diameter barrels along their axis at about 2-4rpm and call it a day.

Not earth-like gravity but very useful for dust, liquids, and all kinds of things that will make the journey considerably more comfortable at the cost of few newcomer vomits and increased difficulty in using amateur telescopes through the windows.

You even get sorta zero g fun column in the center to play with.

>>10903747
At that diameter/rpm, anybody is going to be vomiting

>>10903753
If memory serves me right 2rpm wasn't anything to worry about at 9m diameters, or maybe 12.
Look, they are going to mars. If vomiting from spinning in what's considered comfortable rates is going to be an issue I think there might be some serious flaws with selection and training.
The "gravity" is going to be quite low though. Lower than Lunar and more like a some minor dwarf planet. Useful only for the things I mentioned, notably saving filters from dust and making cleaning easier.
I'm willing to bet my anon reputation that 6rpm is doable with some training on the ground.

>>10903764
Look at >>10903714

Even with training and ideal candidates, months in the red regions will be horrible.

>>10903797
Define horrible and compare it to zero g.

>>10903797
>>10903714
So don't spend months in the red regions? Use a 100m long tether at 2rpm.

>>10903835
You ever been severely seasick? That, for months on end.

Headaches, nausea, confusion, disorientation- all the inefficiencies and problems that go along with those- and your body doesn't really meaningfully adapt to it. The worst part is that when you vomit the nausea doesn't go away.

>>10903849
This was specifically in regards to single-ship rotation

>>10903857
oh yeah no that's gonna be a vomit comet my man

>>10903714
I've been thinking about this today, and one thing I realized is that when you get to Mars, you've got TWO Starships you can use to get home. If something happens to one, you've got the ultimate redundant spare. Of course you still have to successfully land the one you ride down on. And get fuel from somewhere.

There was an article recently that showed people adapted really quickly to being strapped to a centrifuge if the rotation was constant, sorta like how you get seasick on a ship but eventually adapt to it. Can't find it though.

>>10903855
I wonder if there's any research on seasickness medication being used to attempt to treat Coriolis-induced motion sickness.

>>10903870
If they're strapped in one place and stay perfectly still, sure, but the issue is trying to move around and do anything.

>>10903855
Are you sure you aren't describing micro gravity? I'll stick to my point that slow rotation imparted on manned starship can improve comfort drastically as opposed to leaving it in 0g or adding some complex tethered solution that could involve catastrophic failure modes.
Not that it matters. The only partial gravity experiments that will be done in the near future will be on the people staying on the Moon or Mars.

>>10903557
>tfw Starship Lauch System will beat Space Launch System to orbit

>>10903868
I figure that one Starship could carry the crew, while other would be filled with equipment & supplies. Your redundancy argument is also a good idea, to make sure the supply Starship has a basic life support system good enough to get the crew back. And of course any Mars plan will probably involve landing unmanned Starships on Mars a synod ahead of time; hopefully they will be able to make remote operated systems that can set up the solar panels, methane, and LOX production ahead of time.

>>10903876
I guess we can't really test that without a full-up spin station, can we?

>>10903892
good thing oldspace has FAA on their side

>>10903892
Quite possible now that the senate launch system is going for NET2021 but don't even hope for a moment a hilarious event like that could lead to cancellations, rather you might see a budget push for the 130ton variant.

>>10903904
>Elon: We've moved our launch sites to the drone ships, just outside territorial waters. Take that, FAA.

>>10903940
desu I'd hate SLS significantly less if they went for ULA style engine drop reuse, throwing away RS-25s is a fucking crime

>>10903950
The expendable rocket made sense when the SLS was first proposed as a quick and cheap to develop heavy lifter. Kind of a stop gap before the new generation of lifters come along. However, the SLS has been delayed so much with so much more billions than originally asked that it makes some wonder why NASA isn't developing any new technologies for the SLS in the meantime. But, the frustrating answer is that because NASAs management is so corrupt and incompetent that if the SLS were to incorporate new technologies then it would be a miracle if it gets it's maiden flight before the Enterprise D has hers.

>>10903311
this

>>10903319
[n-body problem joke here]

>>10903880
This is not about partial gravity you fucking fool, it's about physiological disruption from the coriolis effect

>>10903899
We really can. You can produce basically indistinguishable circumstances (from the body's perspective) with a tilted spinning room, which has been done.

can someone explain the micro sun thing. I think as I understand it this is the next generation of nuclear diarmarment crossed with tera forming. So we fire these things off to melt mars faster? It's practical but very bizzare.

I'd like a better explanation

>>10903569
I'm fully expecting Mars to become a hotbed of nuclear research once they get up and running

>space command now has authority over the NRO during wartime, kind of like how the navy can take over the coast guard
*angry NRO noises intensify*

>>10904030
this is so the Space Command can chuck up hundreds of Starlink busses with spy cameras to replace wartime losses and then have the NRO take them over post-war

>>10903170
holy shit what is that 1980s soviet redo of Moonlight Sonata? I need this music in my life

>>10904055
youtube has it flagged as this https://youtu.be/5R1O7Dqmq7w

>>10904029
Same. Thorium too.

>>10904061
no USGov to shut them down and no environment to poison

>>10903945
The US gov would crack down hard on spaceX if they tried taking the company outside of the US to avoid the US gov redtape.
Assets would be frozen in seconds, us employees would be warned that they could be convicted for company espionage, etc...

SpaceX needs to dance to the tunes of the US and old space for now.

>>10904077
I think ITAR only applies if you're moving it to another country, but I'm not sure about just moving out to international waters

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1163889282936967168
starship presentation pushed back

>>10904151
fuck I'm starting to hate elon time....

>>10904151
Makes sense that a big presentation would look retarded now when the 200m hop ends in fire.
Best to do the hop first and then do the presentation, it would only make it so much more powerfull after a succesfull test.

>>10904168
I'm always accounting for Elon time, so it's rare for me to get disappointed

>>10904168
Elon years are Martian years.

>>10904151
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>10904151
>NET mid September
at this point it's becoming the SLS of presentations so he should just give us the presentation now

>Nuke Mars refers to a continuous stream of very low fallout nuclear fusion explosions above the atmosphere to create artificial suns. Much like our sun, this would not cause Mars to become radioactive.

Elon lay off the Ambien and wine.

>>10904399
>Fallout: Marineris

>>10904399
Nukes are inefficient. Now nuke pumped lasers would be something to see warming up Mars.

>>10904399
>Before mixing drugs
>Using large amount of mirrors to warm the planet seems like it might be the way to go
>after mixing drugs
>Bro what if we just made like 9999999999 fusion bombs and set them off above Mars constantly lmao

How far will we venture out into the solar system over the next 50 years?

>>10904413
Depends. Will Voyager still be functional by then?

nuking mars is a waste of nukes.

>>10904419
no uts out of juice in a few years

>>10904413
It depends on Elons success with his company.

>presentation delayed to mid September

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKK

>>10903734
cutting travel time is more about getting Starships flying back to Earth sooner (within the same sinode) and about reducing the chances of being caught in a solar storm (starship will have a solar storm shelter but it'd be uncomfortably to pack everyone in there). Three months of zero G is still plenty of time to develop bone degeneration and muscle atrophy. For the comparatively small effort of sending Starships in pairs spinning to generate artificial G, the results would be worth it, with only a few hours or days maximum spent in zero G over the course of a 2.5 year round trip mission.

>>10904486
Bone density is no longer an issue, astronauts are coming back from the ISS with 0 measurable loss thanks to their new workout machine. But yeah spinning them is definitely the way to go.

>20XX
>civil war in mars between elonists who plan to nuke mars and rebels who think its a stupid idea
>american space marines arrive and nerve staple the colony

>>10904472
No hop
No presentation

FAA is keeping hop not hopping

>>10904502
>American space marines arrive
>AYYY SHIEEET TYRONE WE ON MARS NOW NIGGUH
>Gets head blown off by intelligent whitey colonist with home made rifles.

>walmart suing tesla for gross incompetence and inferior solar systems, 7 of which have caught fire recently
>walmart has 240 stores powered by tesla solar panels, wants all 240 removed
elon better fix this or else no one willwant to move to mars if the colony is powered by jank solar panels

>>10904539
How the fuck does solar panels catch on fire? Are they talking about battery themselves?

>>10904539
>>10904541
Also irrelevant to /Spaceflight general/

>>10904541
they're pre-acquisition solar city panels. Blame Elon's nephews

>>10904539
wow, spaceX is so powerful they've already set multiple solar systems on fire? crazy

>>10904543
musk is going to bring his other companies to mars. expect tesla to power spacex's mars facilities.

>>10904399
>>10904411
Nukes can be made very efficient with "clean fusion" bombs using the smallest possible fission igniter and the largest possible fusion fuel block. That's basically what Tsar Bomba's 100MT configuration was.

>>10904541
They don't, solar fires are always caused by nigger tier wiring leading to DC arcing. It's not the product it's Pedro and co who installed it.

>>10904502
How can the Space Marines get to Mars when the Senate has dictated they can only fly on the still-in-construction-but we're-totally-launching-soon-in-2XXX SLS?

>>10904550
Yep, boring company to ship a drill for easy, expandable shielded habitats with free tailings for water, ore and ISRU concrete. Tesla will almost certainly produce the majority of components for surface vehicles, if not the whole vehicle outright. A few starlink sats and some relay sats to talk to Earth will also be one of the very first things sent.

>>10904551
>Tsar bomba mass
>27t

You could fit a retard tier amount of reflective Mylar for that weight. Mirrors are superior in every aspect to nukes.

>>10904561
Adapting an electric car for Mars is as simple as putting the electric car on Mars.

>>10904569
>mirrors are superior in every aspect to nukes
how are you going to create a deterrent against earther aggression with mirrors

>>10904472
>originally had a firm date
>now it's not only pushed back, but the timing is vague
No way it happens mid-September. Since it seems they're just waiting for FAA flight approval and mk1 completion, I doubt it'll be delayed too long past then.

>>10904573
It's not at all, how well do you think a Tesla is going to work at -60 to -80 degrees? My guess is not at all. Everything needs to be insulated and heated to fuck, cabins need to be pressurised and have CO2 scrubbers, spare oxygen, no rubber wheels since they would freeze and crack. A huge list of shit. A realistic Mars rover is going to look more like a minivan than a car, something similar to pic related is probably about what you can expect.

>>10904597
>how well do you think a Tesla will work at -60°
https://www.autotrader.ca/cars/tesla/mb/winnipeg/

>>10904602
Celcius not farenheit retard

>>10904602
>Canada is as cold as Mars

Are you fucking stupid

>>10904615
>winnipeg
>farenheit
also -60° F is -50°C

>>10904636
sometimes winnipeg is colder than mars yes

winnipeg fucking sucks

>>10904666
Satanic trips confirm. Winnipeg indeed sucks.

Propellant tank came in! Sorry for the long time from the last update been busy. It's all coming together!

>>10904702
What's your payload gonna be senpai?

>>10903467
Go viral on normalfag twitter so Elon notices you or be a slave to Superior Deutsche Volvo Kraft forever.

>>10904707
Nothing since this isn't for flight. I'm doing a proof-of-concept of a rocket engine (mainly so I can learn some of the nuances of engine design through actual work since this will be the first rocket engine I've ever made). The engine is made out of thick steel pipes and thick steel pipe fittings.

Pic related, the design of the rocket test engine.

>>10904551
Only a portion of the energy (50% for an infinite flat plane) of the explosion will radiate towards the planet though unless you're planning on submarsian detonation which are probably not good.

>>10904737
Nuking the martian ice-caps would likely require sub-surface detonation so the maximum amount of energy is dumped into the ice.
Hell, a nuking of the ice would likely require staged explosions, where a bunch of small charges/warheads are detonated in the desired area to crack and break up the ice a bit, then the primary warhead goes off to superheat and blow the area completely apart. The cracks from the smaller explosions would give the plasma from the main explosion a place to go and vastly increase the amount of surface area exposed to the blast.

>>10904741
MULTIPLE AND SIMULTANEOUS NUCLEAR DETONATIONS

Nuking Mars is total retard tier compared to using mirrors, debate me.

>>10904737
You can theoretically build nuclear shaped charges but I don't know if any have been actively developed.

>>10904757
nukes are cooler

>>10904759
Not an argument

>>10904770
We all know that there's no contest.

>>10903702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtsu2PLhLnU

>>10904770
it's not a GOOD argument but it IS an argument

learn the difference, it may save a libtard's life

>>10904773
God this show is perfect

>>10904757
>several dozen orbital lenses focus sunlight all onto a 1/2 meter lithium deuteride sphere to trigger inertial fusion immediately above the polar ice caps
Better solution desu

>>10904773
>launching a Shuttle with JATO bottles
definitely HUE tier

>>10904811
>half meter lithium sphere
we need a planet left afterwards anon

>>10904773

>>10904890
where are they keeping the LH2

>>10904894
new engines but they're reusing the old bells apparently

>>10904894
Concat came out in wrong order.

Basically they used a barely functioning ship that wasn't ready for actual flight to rescue Spike's ship who was deorbiting quickly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle

So there are bugs that have internal organs that seem to resemble hypergolic bipropellant rocket engines. When will there be biologically engineered organic rockets?

>>10904910
okay but the SSMEs are firing, where are they getting fuel from

Can the Shuttle even lift itself without the SRBs?

>>10904931
watch the thing, there's a fuel tank in the payload bay
they're using far-future propulsion technologies powered by handwavium

>>10904913
Not until you can genetically engineer organs that can withstand cryo temperature

>>10904946
Someone with the relevant degrees should assess that. Sure, such a thing will never be practical, but the idea of growing and raising your own flesh rocket like some bizarre spaceflight version of pokemon seems fascinating.

holy fuck the new king gizzard album is the best space rock in a while

Giver of life and the giver of speed
Ever we take even her gravity
Her glowing beauty is something to see
Bigger and brighter she cometh to me

Solar mountain comes on the perihelion
No rerouting, only countin' till we're done
Shoutin' sins until we're in the Sun
(Peri-Perihelion)
Melting humans and everything they bring
In a blink, the sun will drink their things
Grinning sun has sinners for dinner

>>10904986
link please

>>10904992
you can listen to the whole album free on their bandcamp
https://kinggizzard.bandcamp.com/album/infest-the-rats-nest-2

>>10904491
Source me up, senpai.

>>10904491
>>10905188
indeed, sauce on this would be most useful for buttblasting oldspace cucks

>>10905188
https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/16-aug-2019/broadcast-3357-dr.-garrett-erin-reisman

Anon posted this a few threads ago, he has a shuttle astronaut guy on who talks about the new resistance machine they have sent up there.

>>10904551
I thought Tsar Bomba was gonna be fission/fusion/fission splitting Uranium 238 in the third stage. Sounds like the exact opposite of clean.

>>10905196
Oh man I actually met Garrett Reisman he's a chill dude. I'm surprised he's still doing stuff like this after he left SpaceX. After his talk I asked him what the hardest part of interplanetary travel was and he said definitely radiation.
Pretty short guy though...