/sci/ - Science & Math

He's annoying but without trying to sound like him, you can't begin to comprehend it without doing it. I've noticed lately /sci/ tends to be proud of willful ignorance

>>10894329
I willfully avoid losing my fucking mind like that stoner does every time he takes DMT if you watch his videos.. you fucking fried brain idiot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xY_D8SMNtE

>>10894950
do you have any citations showing dmt is bad for your brain?

>>10895015
bro, i gave you one. The mans brain has literally rotted out of his head. you and the libtards can go live in Arabia.

>>10895143
you just posted a meme video

>>10895150
fuck off

>>10895158
so you just believe everything you read on 4chan without question then?

>>10894269

Bald cunt

>>10895015
DMT isn't bad for your brain

ITT stoners give one word retorts

drug good make feel good cant be bad. proof wrong?

>>10895180
>>10895182
There is no evidence that dmt has any long term or short term effects at all, let alone negative effects, on your brain. Caffeine is worse for you in the long run

>>10895185
why is it illegal?

>>10894329
>muh hallucinogens!
Underage detected.
>>10895015
Physiologically no, emotionally and cognitively it can be hazardous.

>>10895189
There is no medical use for it and it causes you to hallucinate

>>10895196

>>10895189
The same reason why alcohol used to be illegal in the United States. A bunch of boomers want to impose their own personal values on the entire population.

>>10895158
The brainlet cries as he strikes you

my penis is too big to need DMT. next tell me about the enlightened chimp theory

>>10895162
who doesn't like bald cunt?

>>10894269
>>Dude DMT LMAO

Quality thread.

Much more intellectual than what you are trying to make fun of.

>>10895220
>>10895232
https://files.catbox.moe/fiblcp.webm
scry more stoner noobs

>>10894269
I believe that I had done DMT once, but it was a naturally produced trip that I had "had" in the middle of waking up during (probably) a REM cycle of sleep. It was pretty much unlike anything I've ever experienced ever, and was pretty screwed up. I experienced like a thousand thousand thousand various objects like dice, bikes, toys, trinkets, balls, and other unrecognized objects all in a huge pile that stretched pretty much endlessly as far as I could see, and it was all moving and morphing and the more I looked the more it moved and morphed and vibrated. Everything was changing faster than I could comprehend it to, and some of it turned into what appeared to be living things and robots and musical instruments, but it was continually changing and affecting itself, like it was all alive and it knew that I was looking at it. It was almost comical, but almost threatening at the same time. Pic related is the best image that tries to convey what I experienced, but it is not even close to comparing what I had seen. It lasted for like three minutes, but dang it was not like any normal "dream" where you're casually interacting with things, it was 1000 times more intense. Its a myth that DMT is released during REM sleep, and maybe it is these types of DMT-esque experiences that our brains filter through each night we sleep. Everybody who does DMT feels as if they've done it before or have a feeling of de-ja-vu like they've been to the place they're experiencing doing the drug. Maybe this is why they think that, because they go through the DMT gauntlet every time they turn out the lights.

>>10894269
scientifically speaking: ayy lmao

>>10895189
Wow, you really don't know shit about drugs, huh? I suggest doing at least the slightest bit of research before spewing your uninformed babbling on my basket weaving forum. The war on drugs is a massive misguided failure and the determining variable for which drugs are legal is mainly popularity, not their actual danger.

>>10894269 What does this have to do with /sci/

sage

>>10895185
If it makes you as retarded and Joe Rogen, that's a pretty damn significant side effect.

>>10896872
>my general rule is confirmed by this one example
Brainlet

>>10894950
>>10895143
>>10895196
>go on science board
>make autistic screeching noises when science doesn't support your retarded claims
Neat

>>10894269
time to unintentionally educate myself.
DMT is a chemical commonly found in lifeforms. and native americans use it to do sacred rituals because they believe that the hallucinations they have are messages from their gods and shit.
at huge fucking load of it is stored in the spine and if we get a near-death experience, our body will release dmt in the pineal gland.
the experience when inhaled, ingested, or injected dmt is as follows: your limbs get numb, you hear a rigning, you get more of that good shitand you go to a parellel universe where shit can't be explained simulated by your brain.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/out-the-darkness/201810/near-death-experiences-and-dmt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N,N-Dimethyltryptamine
https://highexistence.com/dmt-experience-drug-good-bad-unbelievable/

>>10896872
>If it makes you as retarded and Joe Rogen
That's just case he's a weedhead, consuming metric shitton of weed everyday

>>10897911
>at huge fucking load of it is stored in the spine and if we get a near-death experience, our body will release dmt in the pineal gland.

I wish people would stop claiming this endogenous DMT idea, David Nichols fairly thoroughly debunked it in a talk during a recent "Breaking Convention" conference

>>10895015
>>10895143
>>10895150
>>10895158

Fucking greatest 4 post sequence ever. 10/10

>>10894950
This is fucking gold!
Thanks man

>>10896684

sounds like a high dose of shrooms. im very curious as to what actually happened to you to make those hallucinations happen.

I got memed into trying DMT through homebrew Ayahuasca and was not impressed.

Sure it was a majestic light show, with some interesting and very creative screen transitions, like a grand stage play but that's about it. You sober up in a few hours, except for the stomachace from the terrible testing acid liquid vinegar + grinded up plant roots that you digested and will have some liquid diahreaa for the next 1-2 days. There was no interesting relevations about the nature of the universe or consciousness.

FUCK druggies

DUDE

I just finished extracting my own DMT last night and smoked it for the first time. Probably around 45mg, used "the machine" to smoke it. Yellow crystals from a straight to base extraction using sodium hydroxide and ronsonol lighter fluid.

Let me just say, I'm never fking doing that again. I've taken high doses of shrooms before (6.1g with a lemon tek) and it was like that, but way fking worse. As soon as I took my first hit and held it in, I forgot everything about myself, and it took all my brainpower to set the bottle down, and even more to remember that I have to breath. Everything I could see was exploded in letters (similar to my shroom trip; everything got covered with the alphabet and then got mixed up.) I had a massive sense of impending doom, thinking "What did I just do, and who are you? Did you fk your life up just barely? What are you trying to do again?" I literally couldn't remember who I was and what I wanted to do in life. I lied down on my bed and all I could see were scattered letters and distorted geometry. I realized I wasn't breathing and kept reminding myself to breath. I felt like I was at death's gate. A voice was saying to me "you should have set up tests and colIected data!" but I was more preoccupied with breathing at the moment. I started getting more of a grip on myself and all I could think of was hugging my gf and repeating to myself that this will all be over soon. As soon as I could see my body again, I realized I was cold and my whole body was shaking. From that point, watched shelter by porter robinson (there were some distorted visuals and hue changes) and then got up and threw all my DMT stuff away.

Drugs are fun. That's literally it. Rather be a stoner than a research monkey.

>>10894329
>you can't begin to comprehend it without doing it.
Did you know that at the moment a bullet enters your brain, you gain superhuman reasoning ability?

>>10898684
Honestly, hallucinogens are fundamentally profound experiences. How many testimonies do you need until you'll believe it?
There's literally nothing like it. Hate it, mock it, whatever, but you actually have no clue 'till you've done it.

>>10898118
You probably took too little and or did it wrong. What was your DMT-source? Each plant produces a MUCH different experience, but mimosa species are best imo. Also vaped DMT is COMPLETELY different than ayahuasca. They basically don't compare at all, although I prefer ayahuasca (with M. hostilis and ayahuasca vine) desu

>>10898183
>lasting POSITIVE changes

>>10898183
6 grams isn't all that much for cubes, especially compared to smoking DMT. Why I liked to do was take a hit or too and just experience the threshold activity without breaking through first, in order to familiarize myself

I get the thing w/ the alphabet too except for me it looks like alien language with characters that are a mix of Arabic and Sanskrit or the language from the Predator's arm band bomb thing when he tries to blow Arnie up. They sorta fly/float above like swarms of flies/bees

It's scarier when you haven't experienced ego death before, which it seems like you did in your experience. I'm not sure if you experienced the full extent of a proper breakthrough dose if you were able to go lie down on your bed though.
RE the voices, yeah they always tell me stuff like that but not always in English. Sometimes it's a kinda muffled alien sound like a foreign or mythical language but it almost always has a very mischievous (but not malevolent) character. Sometimes the voice is rhythmic kinda like Tommy hall's jug effect in 13th floor elevators songs. With ayahuasca using psychotria viridia and banisteriopsis caapi, it was a female one rather than male

>>10895015
Weed is what is bad for the brain, brainlet.

>>10894269
Not science or math.
Fuck off.

>>10895203
Yes that’s why people do it. It’s fun. Fun is all that matters

>>10898930
>weed
Why do people defend this plant like it's a magical substance that fixes everything?

>>10895203
psychedelics don't cause you to hallucinate, that's what deliriants do
i thought this was a scientifically-literate board

>>10898118
Ayahuasca is made to clean your body out. Thats the whole point of it is to detox you. You're the idiot who doesnt know the difference between the two.

>>10898823
I used mimosa powder I got from ebay.

All I got was a fancy light show, with some exagerrated trips through some memory lanes when I was a child growing up. Really not a whole lot of relevations.

>>10895189
The fundamentalist right ruined literally everything last century, that is why.
>inb4 stoner
I don’t even do drugs.

>>10898694
idk, ive tried lcd and dmt and both just make u so retarded that you think losing basic cognitive abilities becomes profound.

>>10894269
Kek

>>10900664
>tried lcd and dmt
>lcd

>>10900653

Legit, they actually want the government to decide what we can put into our own bodies

i thought they were all about small government

>>10895189
>illegal = bad
retard

A high dose of LSD is indescribably mind blowing. A smart, emotionally stable person who's a deep thinker about life, nature, humanity, science, the future, and all that jazz will find 500ug to be ineffably mind expanding. I can't even begin to describe in words the realizations you get from these experiences.

>>10901035
>Not getting high off of the liquid crystals inside the display
Do you even drugs, bro?

>>10902859
>I can't even begin to describe in words the realizations you get from these experiences.
Name one.

>>10902883
he literally said he cant begin, anon

>>10902883
That's like asking to describe a catalytic converter to a caveman. The fact that you're even asking this indicates you have low IQ and autism, so you probably won't get much out of the experience anyway.

>>10902900
>The fact that you're even asking this indicates you have low IQ and autism, so you probably won't get much out of the experience anyway.
I take it none of those realizations have anything to do with fine manners.

>>10894269
Turns out... little elf fellas

>superchad.jpg
>"why yes I drink datura, how did you tell"

>>10898118
>not in a ritual setting
>without a guide/shaman
>just one (1) time
also, by your description, your brew wasn't strong enough
i'm not saying that Ayahusca reveals things about universe and reality but is a super powerful life-changing trip when it's well done
besides, in my experience, ayahuasca "revelations" are not intellectual, are more like visceral/intuitive insights

>>10900664
>losing basic cognitive abilities
>on lsd

That makes you an interesting outlier, you could probably get paid to let researchers test this.

>>10898560
If this didn't inspire an unquenchable thirst for understanding the nature of your mind, nothing else will.

can someone explain what revelations you get out of DMT? Ive done shrooms and lsd and they were interesting but really didnt change my thinking at all. what are these mystical insights that everyone claims with dmt? like actual statements

>>10904192
On DMT I realized the insignificance of the individual when compared to the vastness of time and space. I suppose I always had a conception of that idea, but DMT made me "feel" it rather than just think it. I suppose, if you do get a message, it will be individualized, and maybe not even new. However, the expression of the idea, or the feeling rather than thinking of an idea really does feel profound.

>>10904330
>However, the expression of the idea, or the feeling rather than thinking of an idea really does feel profound.
I always chalked it up to the different state of consciousness. ie I felt profound feeling-thoughts like that in lsd and shrooms but it was the brain change that caused the feeling, not the thought itself. just Like how ideas seem incredible, life seems amazing when you are listening to very good music, or you just had some coffee

>>10904355
I agree, but it is still interesting to understand in a novel way (i.e. feel ideas raher than visualize or sub-vocalize them).

>>10896929
>A study conducted yesterday by a man on himself concluded that self-reported anecdotal evidence is, in fact, both reliable and relevant.

You know that the socjus humanities do this for real, right? They call it Autoethnography.

>>10904383
which is why they have no value