/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10879859
what do you want to do with your degree?

>>10879862
I'm Hoping to either work at the best astronomically based buisnesses, like Nasa or SpaceX or spend the rest of my life doing research.

You deserve to suffer. You had it too good for too long.

>>10879868
>You deserve to suffer. You had it too good for too long.
Don't be so mean

>>10879871
The truth hurts.

Is it really hard to get into top unis? I mean you guys pay hundreds of dollars it doesn't seem like they care if you are good or not

>>10879859
Post stats OP

>>10879879
35 ACT
1570 SAT
4.4 GPA
If you mean High school stats

>>10879883
Even blacks have attained these stats. Bragging about high school performance is for neurotics.

>>10879883
How much will Harvard cost?

>>10879886
Someone asked him retard

Come to Mines bro

>>10879886
Fucking obviously, its high school shit, I've literally coasted my life through high school and want more in life

>>10879887
Like I said in the original post, about 300k for 4 years. Need based scholarships don't exist for me

>>10879883
Great stats OP

>>10879888
Which Mines? Colorado? South dakota?

>>10879896
Colorado

>>10879859
>"stating wages are the same here as in an ivy league or elsewhere"

Talk about networking, internship opportunities, research opportunities that can help you with graduate admission in the future.

>>10879897
Yea I've been thinking about it actually, and it probably would be a great alternative

>>10879911
It’s the best school dude

>>10879859
If you have any poor relatives just make them your legal guardian and drop your parents so that on paper the government thinks you are poor and gives you money just for existing.

>>10879859
>Caltech, my first choice
Great minds think alike anon. I graduated years ago but I'm close to Pasadena. Let's meet up sometime.

>>10879883
holy fuck, i did way fucking better than that and didn't get into any of those schools. utter bullshit. do you play a fucking euphonium?

>>10879952
>way fucking better than that
retard prolly doesnt know that the SAT changed scoring. little improvement is possible
kys boomer

>>10879859
2yrs local then transfer?

>>10879859
>got accepted
>not free
Then you are not really accepted, anon.

>>10879859
>What do I do? The cost to go to any of my top choice colleges would parallel a third of a million dollars, but I hate this god forsaken state of misery.

I can guarantee you you won't find a good job attending a shitty, cheap school. Take the debt and move to another country after you graduate. That is your only hope.

>>10880030
>Take the debt
GOOD GOY!!!!!!!!

>>10879890
How did you get into Caltech?
I would say either go into debt or go to a california CC and then Berkeley/UCLA or go to UND for free and then do grad school somewhere good

>>10879926
How would you say it impacted your job market available? Do you think your life would be drastically different if you graduated from a no-name school?

>>10880035
>Take the debt, but skip out on paying it

My advice is literally anti-Jew.

>>10879954
Lmao, I took the SAT after the change. Got the same SAT score, 36 ACT, 4.700 GPA in high school (perfect grades and pretty much as high level classes as you can take)
stop projecting
i mean i'm perfectly happy where i am, just as good as the other schools. but it was annoying that i didn't get into them and have a bunch of options. of course now i'm easily in the top 0.1% of undergrads in my major so it's these other schools' loss that they rejected me.

>>10880040
>rich kid, whose wealth is most likely strongly tied to the nation in which his parents have a lot of power and connections, will just flee to another country.

OP probably could not live a day without a maid. Let's be real here. Any dreams at outjewing the jew are way beyond someone like OP. Not to mention that even if OP manages to do it, they will just go for the parents who will have to pay, which will probably put OP's inheritance at risk.

I mean, do you even know how many times European kings fucked over the jews by avoiding their debt payments? The modern jew is the product of centuries of rich people fucking them over, they'll fucking get you AND your money.

Do the other schools offer some sort of grant? Have you talked to a financial adviser at any of these institutions? Even if you took up some debt (likely not what it is advertised) once you graduate you'd be easily recruited into a highly paid job. Being at one of these top schools isn't just about the prestige,but being around other highly intelligent, well connected people that could shape the rest of your life. Don't lose that chance.

>>10880057
Drop the autismal show off. I can guarantee you his scores weren't the only thing they considered. OP probably had some impressive extra curriculars and such. Also being for a fly over state means he does benefit from a diversity qualification.

>>10880070
His parents cut him off. They're also likely not as rich as you think,

Anyway OP will probably get scholarships eventually. It doesn't matter he won't end up with much debt. Smart kids don't pay for their education.

>I mean, do you even know how many times European kings fucked over the jews by avoiding their debt payments? The modern jew is the product of centuries of rich people fucking them over, they'll fucking get you AND your money.
Student debt is really not that big of a deal. Besides who knows maybe in 30 years some crazy left fuck running on a platform of debt forgiveness wins the election and OP gets off scott free.

>>10880075
>His parents cut him off.
They didn't cut him off. Honestly, his parents are right. Why do you go to top colleges? To network with rich people so that in the future you can leech off of them. But if you are the rich person, then you don't need to network with anyone except maybe court your parents into giving you most of the inheritance. If you are rich you are better off being a good boy and sucking your dad's dick.

>Student debt is really not that big of a deal.

I jew would kill you for 50 bucks. You have no idea what they'll do to you for a third of a million dollars.

>>10880038
I'm one of the few people from Caltech who ended up in industry. Most of my friends are in academia and will probably stay there for the rest of their careers. In terms of job prospects, it's definitely great - there are monthly workshops where very senior people from companies like Google, IBM Research etc come to present and a lot of people got hired that way. But I'm sure the same is true of other top-tier schools.

A degree from Caltech will open infinitely many doors and pay for itself many times more than a degree from any crappy local school

>>10880072
>Don't lose that chance.
This OP. I went to a university in my third world home town to be with my family in a troubled time while my friend went to a top 5 school.

I can't even begin to tell you how different our lives are. Just know that it's not just about regret. It's about survival. You will need be able to feed yourself or your family if you don't got to Caltech.

The last time I had a taste of survival was when I was invited to a conference in the US. I met all the leaders in my field. Charmed them all. They were extremely impressed by my research. One of them introduced me to his colleague as a "young genius". I thought I could make it...and then they reality came crashing down when people realised my institution is from a shithole country. None of the contacts I made helped me in the end. I never got admitted to any PhD programme in the first world. My friend meanwhile got offers everywhere he applied to. This is after finishing his Masters with zero publications in a complete botched project.

Your school brand name is everything. Do everything you can to get Caltech on your transcript.

>>10880082
>>10880075
Yes, my parents arent in the realm of billions rich, they're just rich from both my state's viewpoint and college viewpoints, about 50k above the cutoff from any need-based financial aid

>>10880091
If it's any consolation there's a lot of people from not-so-good institutions outside of US/UK/EU who end up doing incredible things. But clearly you have to work a lot harder to 'prove yourself'.

>>10880082
You didn't read/analyse the OP properly, observe

>>10879859
>Parents earn a fuckton of money,
>earn

Translation: his parents are salary earners. He's middle class, not a trust fund baby. He's not going to inherit anything. His parents are going to keep their like savings locked up in real estate investments like good middle class goys until they can retire off it.

OP is on his own.

>>10880098
>MSU
>not so good
Wew

>>10880095
Okay, that changes things but I still say you should follow their advice. You are still looking at inheriting cash and real state worth at least 500k.

If you are really salty at not getting to network with the richer people, then focus on landing prestigious internships. Seriously, undergrad is a fucking meme. I would never in a billion years go into debt for a fucking undergraduate degree. Undergrad is the pre-school of the 21st century.

>>10880102
That was by far the most accurate analysis of my family on this thread so far

>>10880102
You can always just kill your parents before they squander their good goy points. The reality is most people don't even have what OP has. I am in a very similar situation actually. You just need to play the game, last year I almost even got them to transfer the property rights of their main residence to my name but they felt it unnecessary. I'll just kill them if they even dream of cashing out what is my fucking money.

>>10880098
Thanks that honestly helps. MSU is ranked far higher than my university (mine is the best in my country, but shit internationally).

I'm hoping my next round of publications will get me "transferred" to another adviser in the first world (I'd be willing to start over at a better school in a heart beat). I'd try to enter industry directly, but I've never gotten an interview. I imagine there are candidates from far better schools than me.

Thanks for the motivation, I was starting to have suicidal thoughts again.

>>10879866
make those boomer shitheads pay

>>10880107
Bro just go to Caltech, you have no idea what a miserable hell it is for graduates outside the top 20. It might be possible to make it. But your chances reduce to 1 in 10000 vs 1 in 2.

>>10879866

Hahahahaha

Research in general is a career dead end and has been since the seventies. It's been romanticized by kikes to feed the cheap postdoc market. Don't fall for it

>>10879859
1. Don't go to Caltech. It's a super insular school. Either you submit to the kool aid or you go insane.

Personally I would pick Stanford. I don't know a single person who went to Stanford who isn't killing it. That school just sets people up.

2. Make a big boy argument to your parents that they should pay for your college. Explain to them the difference in life trajectory between a top tier college and a local community college. Explain to them the effect student loan debt is having on an entire generation. Explain to them that not paying for your college when they have the ability to is basically dooming you to decades of high interest debt.

If they still won't pay (they sound like real boomers so this is likely), ask to be emancipated so you can apply for need based financial aid based on your own personal income.

>>10879859
Nobody will give a fuck about what university you went to the moment you get any job or research experience. These schools only exist to foster elitism. Stop being a spoiled little fuck and take the free ride.

>>10879859

>>10880647 is right, get emancipated so the school doesn't assume you have an enormous family contribution to your tuition. If your parents income doesn't help you, make it official.

>>10879859
Good job, incredible results, very jelly.

>>10879859
MIT is weird. I also went to Caltech and met a lot of people that got accepted to multiple top universities but not MIT. I'll never know for sure but it really does strengthen my suspicion that MIT is heavy into affirmative action.

OP: in my opinion it is a waste for someone who is capable of getting into top tier universities to go anywhere else and that is the argument I'd use with your parents. You have a chance to do something that most people are literally incapable of doing. That being said, in the real world people usually only care about where you got your final degree so if you plan to go to grad school you could consider going to a state school (screw community college) for a lot less money and then do your graduate degree at a top level university, assuming you are confident that's what you want to do and you are confident you could get in the grad program.

>wake up at 4pm after night of wild masturbation and playing minecraft
>try to silently fart
>tfw I literally shitted myself
What do I do? it really stinks and I haven't washed myself for like 3 weeks now and my mother says she will kick me out but I really enjoy the smell plus I AM THE CUM

>>10880647
>Either you submit to the kool aid or you go insane.
wtf does this even mean? Caltech is very focused on certain fields and doesn't give a shit about other things like humanities but kool aid? there is no political propaganda there because no one gives a shit. it's actually quite refreshing

>>10879868
Unironically this. What you're feeling now is not even a fraction of a percent of the day-to-day stress of a member of the lower class. Go fuck yourself, richboy.

revolution literally when?
I'm more than willing to join niggers and other shitskins as long as we kill people like op

>>10880682
>MIT is weird. I also went to Caltech and met a lot of people that got accepted to multiple top universities but not MIT.
MIT is filling those positions with undeserving niggers and spics as part of its virtue signaling campaign.

>>10880693
>Mention kool aid
>Immediately assume I'm talking about humanities or "political propaganda"

lmao dude lay off the /pol/. Caltech is tiny. You have 200-250 people per class. You'll likely graduate with 2-3 friends while violently hating everyone else. It always happens with small schools.

>>10879859
If you got into cal tech it would be a massive mistake to stay at home, your parents are just retarded and scared, they just want to keep you weak.dont go to Harvard. Stanford is fine depending on your major.
Btw caltexh might actully be able to help you with money, they are not so corporate

>>10879859
Gonna give you some real advice here:

In my mind you have two options: one is to accept to your top choice (CalTech) ask for a year deferment of enrollment so that you can work full time (SAt/ACT tutoring can pay like $30-100/hr). In this time you try to establish financial independence from your parents and get aid to graduate debt free. Igor Pak (combinatorist at UCLA recommends this approach)

Go to a good local state or community college and bust your balls off with as many internships, research, and scholarships you can get your hands on. About a year or two in apply to transfer out to a top tier public/ivy.

In no circumstances should you take on $300k debt.

t. Graduate from ucla who graduated debt free

If you're genuinely, one hundred percent "cut off" with no financial support whatsoever, I believe Stanford will help you if you explain it well. I believe it's something like if your family (or in this case, your) income is <$85k, you get a free ride. Ask if you can defer enrollment for a year and live on your own and support yourself, that sounds like the bullshit they love.

>>10880703
Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to announce that this is absolutely, and immutably based. Thank you and goodnight.

>>10879957
No
>>10880036
No.
Please please please do not listen to these people about going to a cc to save money. All you really do is waste time, especially if you want a science degree, which I assume since you applied to Caltexh
Ccs are a big mistake, college isn’t just about the classes, but having access to upper diction students and teachers so you can ask around about your major, plus all your easy classes get front loaded making your last two years over worked compared to all the people who went straight there,
Plus you will be around a bunch of high school slackers in your courses which dumb down and slow down the material, also you lose most of your friends when you transfer, and you have a lot less time to make connections for jobs, and the teachers get to know you less. And often cc students still love at home so they don’t grow up, and a bunch of other things.
There is a lot of other stuff I am leaving out,
Please please do not go to a cc if yo got into 4 years out of high school, even a state school 4 year is a better choice.
If you get a marketable degree, which you should, in 10 years the money saved won’t matter much. And trust me it will take at least an extra year going cc then transfer, at the cc there willl always be some class you need that is full and at the 4 year there will always be some class they make you retake, no matter what they say before you transfers

>>10879859
This is infuriating. You need to explain to your parents how important going to a top tier is for your future prospects. You will be rubbing elbows the the elite. Open doors everywhere. Make them see this.

>>10879859
tell your parents their wealth is keeping you from receiving aid

>>10879957
Yeah this is actually smart

>>10880025
It's cos his parents are loaded dingdong

>>10880682
MIT is all about hard science. Your application wasn't objective enough to get their dicks hard. Write it in pure mathematical logic next time.

>>10880785
poor him

>>10880686
Accepted to Harvard. Full scholarship.

>>10880825
nah I prefer jerking off in my own home not some shitty dorm sorry man

>>10880770
His parents just want him to stay their baby dependent child forever, love isnt logical.
They will not be able to understand this on a language level, they will say things like "saves money”, “being local is nice,” “there are good jobs here”
They will never be able to articulate that they just want their baby to remain weak and dependent.
Talking to them will be very hard and if you want to change their minds expect months of fights and them sabotaging to do it, and it still might notwork

>>10880857
You hit the nail on the head with that one, tat is exactly how they act towards me all the time

>>10880763
This is horse shit. Stop applying law and business school thinking to science.

>>10879859
university of chicago paid my entire tuition (not room and board) with a 120k family income. If you got into all these schools, and at least one of them really wants you, they should be able to work something out.
Not sure how emancipation works, but if it does try that. Your income will be far lower and you should get the aid you need.

>>10880703
fuck you. just because a kid's parents happen to live semi-comfortably shouldnt mean the kid doesnt deserve an education he is smart enough to get. the middle class always gets fucked over in situations like this

>>10879859
Between the two top colleges in my state (UMich and MSU) one is nationally renown as the best public school in the nation and the other just known outside of the state as a sports school.
I didn't get into Umich and am going to MSU. I probably should have applied to more tops schools if I was worried about getting the "toppest" of educations, but was too worried about out of state prices.
I realize that my education at undergraduate level would likely be similar at both of the schools and I'm likely going to be looking at a masters degree in the future unless an opportunity opens itself to me.
Still deep down kinda feel bad I'm not going to a "smart" school, but it's no use moping.

>>10880751
>In my mind you have two options: one is to accept to your top choice (CalTech) ask for a year deferment of enrollment
A lot of top schools don't mind if you do this. At least it worked for a HYPSM. CalTech is just as good, I figure they'll be receptive towards that idea.

>>10880057
That's not "way better", and your maximum GPA is determined by your location and how many advanced courses are available to you. They probably rejected you because of your shit entitled attitude, which probably oozed throughout your application.

Enjoy being a big fish in a small pond with the other Ivy rejects.

>>10880703
>>10880761
Class warfare at its finest
>>10881037
Middle class is getting the least from the government compared to lower and upper class. This is just a straight up fact.
But, we usually climb the ladder really well.

I don't get federal aid, but I'm not getting schools knocking on my door because I went to XYZ private highschool.
Learn to relax and get what is yours, dying middle class bro. We are the only ones in this country who know how it is.
Middle class is a literal dying breed. Soon it will be only upper and lower again.

>>10879866
NASA is not a business :)
They also don't pay very well, ironically

>>10881046
>the best public school the nation
fucking lol

>>10881097
one of the best
you happy now?

>>10881097
That, Berkeley, UCLA, UT. Those are the only ones. Don't be a sperg.

>>10879859
Your parents are rich. Convince one to take out a loan with a reputable (((bank))) and tell them you'll pay the whole thing after you graduate

>>10879952
I got into one of OP's schools with worse stats. I'd like to attribute it to "stand out" essays considering which school it was. Being black/Hispanic might have also helped :^)

>>10879859
Don't do it OP. Just go international. Let me tell you my story:
>be me upper-class white-hispanic male with psychological and physical conditions
>no friends entire life, start browsing 4chan at age 13
>high school doesn't give a shit, manage to graduate me with a 3.1 even though I repeated my classes and got A's in them because lol GPA
>took 6 years for high school, will take 3 years for community college
>can't apply for scholarships because none exists for my medical conditions
>can't work because of medical conditions
>can't apply for social security because my condition is not covered by it and there is medical debate surrounding this condition
>already have a 4.0 just by taking philosophy and human geography online
>/pol/ tells me that US universities are philosophically political
>top kids at Harvard are more retarded than they were 30 years ago just ask John Fish
>plan to transfer to the UK because top 5 schools in the UK are cheaper than attending the top 15 schools in the US
>government data supports more and more Americans are going international
>you are more likely to get hired because of your "cultural experience"
I feel that getting an Ivy education is so bullshit because not only do you have to convince your school, your parents but you also have to be a "model" and "interesting" student. I feel so bad for the people who applied and got denied to the Ivy League because they don't have a charismatic personality or social skills.

But OP, seriously, go international. The top American colleges are long gone and if you are interested in math or science then schools in the UK are superior for that. There is a reason that Americans are taught math poorly and it's because math teachers aren't paid as well compared to the UK.

>>10881138
UNC - Chapel Hill, UT - Austin, UW - Seattle, UC schools, UM - Ann Arbor are all fairly equal im not being a sperg lol just pointing out UM isn’t the best state school.

>>10881341
forgot UW - Madison, PSU, Virginia

>>10879859
try a very low interest loan (0% - inflation) from your parents

>>10881341
Nah, you're being a sperg.

>>10881037
I reiterate: Go fuck yourself, richboy. The dude's parents undoubtedly fucked plenty of people over to get their money. The only rich people that got their wealth without making sure that other people didn't get theirs are the ones that lucked into it. You cannot become a member of the upper class without ensuring that multiple other people are stuck in the lower class as your effective slaves. I'd love to see you spend one single day in the shoes of a member of the lower class.

>just because a kid's parents happen to live semi-comfortably shouldnt mean the kid doesnt deserve an education he is smart enough to get
Impressive case of completely missing the point, which is that it is orders of magnitude more difficult for a deserving member of the lower class to get the education that they desire. This guy is literally complaining about being wealthy. He should save his breath and just go spit in the faces of the members of his local lower class neighborhood. This is a classic case of someone so ignorant of the social issues in human society that he legitimately believes that his wealth is hindering him. He is incapable of empathizing with the lower class and probably views them as the cause of societies ills rather than the symptom. The best way to solve this problem is for him to go somewhere and fuck himself violently.

>the middle class always gets fucked over in situations like this
Boo fucking hoo. The middle class has it infinitely better than the lower class. You're just mad that you aren't in the upper class, and you're looking for someone else to blame. Guess what: blaming the lower class is what your upper class overlords want you to do, dumdum. Congratulations on being a pawn.

>>10881490
It's one thing to be poor, but it's on you for being ignorant too.

>>10881497
What the fuck are you even talking about? Assuming that the average member of the lower class is less intelligent (or more ignorant) than the average member of the other classes is a classic prejudice that holds no water in the real world. If anything, the rich are more ignorant on average because they don't have to interact with society in the same way that the other two classes do, especially the generationally wealthy. It's harder to survive as a member of the lower class and takes a much greater wit to do so. You're laboring under the false assumption that hard work and intelligence will automatically ensure success in this world. The truth is that the wealthy know that they have to keep as many other people in their control as possible to maintain their wealth. Whenever someone ascends to the next class, all the wealthy can see is a loss of potential capital for themselves. This simple fact is why human society has always been as casted as it is. It is no accident.

>>10879859
sign your parents for life insurance

>>10879859
>going to caltech or stanford for undergrad

>>10880682
that must explain why i got rejected from most top universities except for mit lol

>>10880733
Who fucking cares lmao

>>10879859
Your parents sound like dirtbags. You won't have debt if they fucking pay for you to get a top-tier, one in a million education.

>>10879866
For those careers, you don't need to go to those universities - you just need to be good at what you do and establish connections with the right people. I'm went to uni in Europe, my alma mater probably doesn't make the top 100 in the THE ranking. Same for my uni where I did my PhD. I'm now on my second post-doc in the US and turned down job offers from JPL and AMES, mostly because I hate the fucking heat.

Be good at what you do, string up the right connections (NASA projects and missions are hosted at a variety of places), and work hard. If you aren't good at what you do, even a degree from Caltech won't buy you shit, I know that first hand.

>>10879859
Ivy Leagues are a bit of a joke. Between being a rich-kid daycare and a social justice playground, there's not a whole lot of room for science. Just about the only thing that keeps them going is (i) legacy and (ii) boatloads of money. However, neither of those things are likely to exist in 20 years when the rich boomers die off and their worthless kids and minority hires are the only ones left to milk for cash.

Regardless, if you plan to go to graduate school just do well in undergrad. Your terminal degree is all that really matters.

>>10880057
Maybe you came across as an autist with no social skills. Did you play a sport/participate in any club, or did you just lock yourself in your room for your entire youth?

>>10879859
How exactly are you in this position right now? High school class of 2019 decided where they were going months ago, and application deadlines for the class of 2020 aren't for months from now.

>>10879859
>not taking the Ricepill

>>10879859
The answer is simple: merely lie to the government about how much your parents make. You will get your financial aid check, and then halfway through your next semester after gov't has done its due diligence, you will get a bill for however much you got in financial aid. Then dispute the bill and claim to be financially independent (maybe work a job to "put yourself through school") and the gov't will be all like "oh shit my bad." Just one thing- you can't accept any money from your parents.
>t. professional jew

>>10880057
Lmao brainlet.
I did so well on the ACT they gave me a bonus point so I got a 37.
Similar thing happened with SAT, got a 1690.
My high school had to invent higher level classes just for me and I ended up with a 5.5 GPA.

>>10881613
Funny how the best post ITT isn't getting any (you)s. This is absolutely true. I went to a no-name school. No Master's degree. No PhD. Working as a researcher right now because I met the right person. Neighbor actually.

>>10879859
Apply to state schools that have highly ranked programs for your field. They’ll have more aid available, you’ll be a bigger fish, and you won’t have to compromise too much on quality

>>10882508
Still most scientists are underemployed. Imagine if he hadn't been your neighbor.

>>10879859
>Caltech, Stanford, University of Chicago, Harvard

Go to one of these. At this tier of school the financial aid doesn't matter, you will be able to knock on any door and demand a six-figure salary with bonuses, starting.

>>10879859

Fuck off, Epstein client. I say eat the rich. It's about time you suffered like the rest of us.

>>10882063
I'm calling bullshit.

>>10879859
As many others have already said in this thread, call the universities that accepted you, explain your financial situation and see if you can work something out with them.
Going to some random ass state school in ND when you have been accepted by fucking Harvard and similarly prestigious and selective schools may be the worst decision you could make in your young life unless you have an extraordinarily good reason to choose the state school.

>>10879859
>WAAAAA WAAAAAAA
>MOMMY AND DADDY WONT CARRY ME THROUGH LIFE
>BOO HOO
I have a suggestion for you Anon. Attempt acting like an adult.

>>10879866
>spend the rest of my life doing research.
That's not likely.
Not enough permanent positions and there's a fuckton of indians and chinese who will work for food 24/7.
You have 0.0001% chance to stay in academia.
I suggest IT.

>>10881568
this, go public in undergrad and go there for grad school, when it's basically free

>>10879859
For ivy leagues and other extremely high ranking schools the loans are worth it. Plus, many people say once you’re in the school tries it’s best to make sure you succeed. As opposed to a state school that might kick you out if you fuck up one semester or something.

>>10880588
How is research a career dead end? Research is the means to innovation. There is always money to be made in research.

>>10880102
This

>>10880588
>Research in general is a career dead end and has been since the seventies. It's been romanticized by kikes
you don't even make sense m8
the best way to make sure you don't have any impact on humanity is to devote your career to collecting (((fiatbuck$$$)))

>>10881490
Shut the fuck up poorfag

>>10879859
1. It doesn't matter where you get your undergrad as long as you do well.

2. If you do good in your undergrad at a local school you'll easily get a free ride for grad school where ever you want.

3. Go fuck yourself you entitled faggot. You don't deserve anything and you haven't earned anything.

>>10883746
>>10883740

Look at the academic job market and the way the post doc system in the U.S is basically a slave market designed to trap people in for cheap labor until they're "too old" to make it. Look at the number of tenure track job openings vs the number of PhDs in this country. Less than three percent of PhDs ever get tenure; most are forced into underemployment or industry by a saturated job market.

Research is a noble and excellent pursuit that has been destroyed as a career option by a combination of boomers, kikery, and incompetent policy. Collecting fiat bux like a good goy is pathetic, but it's what most of us are going to have to do to eat every night.

>>10883770
Easy just don't major in the hard sciences unless if you're good. Major in math and make shit tons of cash

>>10879859
you do know your parents are right? right?
also LMAO get rekt whitey! I cannot fucking believe you actually have to fucking pay for that shit. they literally just give money to mInorities like me, and I get favored over white boys despite my mediocre grades. Guess what I actually was accepted into MIT with essentially a full ride, but I think i'll just go to my local college.
im just going to do computer engineering so I can live in the city and fuck white women anyways cracker boi.

>>10882868

>>10880102
>Translation: his parents are salary earners.
Do you seriously believe that the vast majority of the wealthy (especially their children) would openly state that they didn't earn their wealth through hard work/intelligence/whatever?

There are incredibly few wealthy people that realize that they got there through good fortune. Even most that inherited their wealth from their parents, without expanding it whatsoever, believe that they earned and deserve their bank accounts. Our big ol' orange CEO is a perfect example of this phenomenon.

So, of course OP believes that his parents earned their wealth (and that he deserves it all, eventually). Otherwise, he would have to confront that he's living life on easy-mode and that his achievements (what few there seem to be) are lessened greatly by that fact.

>>10883753
You don't have to be poor to understand that the rich have it incredibly easy yet still whine constantly about whatever they can think of that day. The rich bitch more often not because their lives are difficult, but because they're so used to surfing through it all without difficulty that when something even remotely trying comes before them they just can't handle it.

I can't believe this thread is still up. Fuck all of you.

>>10884103
Cry more, richboy.

>>10879859
undergrad is a fucking meme, just get good grades at a local college and apply again to their grad program or phD track. If you’re actually smart and hardworking you’ll get in.
going ivy league for undergrad is a waste of money and does not guarantee anything unless you’re extremely charismatic (which you most likely are not).