/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10858756
it's safe for people
5g radio waves can't penetrate far enough into us to cook us like a hotpocket
but bees are small, so they can get hot pocketed
5g will be outlawed, just wait

>>10858756
5Gschizo. Going to look into this further. May well be it's yet another one for the list.

-Sigh-
s m h...

Can we just automatically ban anyone who's made a post on /pol/ within the last month, every single board is ruined by their constant spam

>>10858804
How about we just automatically ban you.

>>10858804
But then how will i be able to make my jewish supremacist bait threads?

>Bees range in size from tiny stingless bee species whose workers are less than 2 millimetres (0.08 in) long, to Megachile pluto, the largest species of leafcutter bee, whose females can attain a length of 39 millimetres (1.54 in). The most common bees in the Northern Hemisphere are the Halictidae, or sweat bees, but they are small and often mistaken for wasps or flies. Vertebrate predators of bees include birds such as bee-eaters; insect predators include beewolves and dragonflies.

https://www.lifewire.com/5g-spectrum-frequencies-4579825
>C-band: 2–6 GHz for coverage and capacity.
>Super Data Layer: Over 6 GHz (e.g., 24–29 GHz and 37–43 GHz) for high bandwidth areas.
>Coverage Area: Below 2 GHz (like 700 MHz) for indoor and broader coverage areas.
>5G Spectrum Usage by Carrier
>Not all service providers use the same frequency band for 5G. Like we mentioned above, there are advantages and disadvantages to using any part of the 5G spectrum.
>T-Mobile: T-Mobile plans to use low-band spectrum (600 MHz) as well as mid-band spectrum.
>Verizon: Verizon's 5G Ultra Wideband network uses millimeter waves, specifically 28 GHz and 39 GHz.
>AT&T: AT&T's deployment strategy is to use millimeter wave spectrum for dense areas and mid and low-spectrum for rural and suburban locations.
>Sprint: Sprint claims to have more spectrum than any other carrier in the US, with three spectrum bands: 800 MHz, 1.9 GHz and 2.5 GHz.

poof lil fellas are gettin cooked :'(

>>10858850
*poor lil fellas

>>10858832
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>>10858804
hi newfriend :)

>>10858804
It isn't just /pol/ there are multiple entities with agendas who spam here regularly.

>>10858858
This.

>>10858756
>5g kills bees, birds, and rats
Sure is good to be a person.

>>10858756
>the 5G schizo is a bumble-bee
Holy shit bro, you should have been more up front about that!

>>10858882
Please adjust you schedule to hang put as close to a 5G small cell as possible. Make sure you're living near an 850/868MHz LED streetlight transmitter as well. IMPORTANT. Make sure you exposures are consistent, but have a bit of intermittence.......

Thank you.

>pol
We explained to them how to shut down cell towers like a year ago. I don't know if we still live in a time where public opinion can drive change anymore.

The brainwashing is too complete.

So can this 5g shit fry little kids?

>>10858908
And more. ;^)

>>10858756
It should be a bannable offense for op to link to clickbait news on /sci/

>>10858908
Some frequencies can create harmonics with the sperm in your testes as they develop. The wavelength needs to be the right size in comparison to the sperm.

Effectively this shakes them until they break apart, killing them.

I haven't looked into it much because I'm tinfoil hat living out in wilderness tier so I'm unaffected. I have a background in industry though and from what I understand this happens with most wireless devices especially with phenomena caused by re-radiation of wireless energy by metal objects. The concern with 5G is that the power levels must be pushed much higher to get the weakest frequencies out further.

Btw if you wear a tinfoil hat it needs to be connected to earth or it is really just an antenna.

>>10858951
S-sci could we do an experiment to test this?

Cum on a slide and a modified wifi antenna?

>>10858951

>>10858978
you need glasses, delivery boy

>>10858951
Me.
>>10858970
I can't run this test. I don't have sperm in my cum. Idk if I'm comfortable handling the sperm of another man and I don't want to ""acquire" any from animals. Somebody else has to run the experiment however...

The processes within the testes which produce sperm are complex with many stages. To truly understand the damage you would need to extract sperm at several stages of development.

Further the rest of the ejaculate comes from he prostate and other glands and may act as insulation protecting the sperm.

This conditions on e slide are very different to those within the testes.

I could probably work out how to make a design for a suitable wifi emitter.

>>10858978

>>10858804
If you're so triggered about having to explain things to/read things from people with differing opinions to you then why the fuck are you on 4chan? Go to reddit or resetera if you need a safe space

>>10859064
He was clamped.

>>10858756
>posting articles from not one but two tabloids
please kill yourself

>>10858951
human sperm is 50 micrometers long. This corresponds to long IR radiation. So you best not dry your balls with a campfire. 39 GHz has a wavelength of about 7.7 mm. This is 2 orders of magnitude larger than human sperm. Immature sperm cells probably have smaller lengths...

>>10859075
Thanks. I feel retarded for not being able to provide an instant rebuttal. I haven't touched any of this wireless stuff for a decade or so. I need to refresh.

Interesting that you mention IR and heat.

>>10858796
>5g radio waves can't penetrate far enough into us to cook us like a hotpocket

What about bacteria? Wouldn’t 5g drastically change the ecology of bacteria? Do we even know what effect this could have?

>>10859075
Shining a special red lamp on testes increases testosterone

>>10859092
Whoa, really? I was doing this the other day. Is that why I feel so much better?

Just used a typical infrared heat lamp.

>>10858756
you retards, all the radiation that comes from the sun, including visible light, is far more dangerous than 5G. 5G is perfectly safe

>>10858756
i don't understand the push for 5g. 4g is more than enough anyone could possibly need, stupid selfie thots

>>10859087
Okay. You're basically having your balls fried by heat the same way you heat food in a microwave. This would be exacerbated by the higher power required for the higher frequencies and greater rate of attenuation of the signal especially over extended periods.

I guess I'm mixed up somewhere between industry rumours and what is actually going on. I just left wifi and did other things.

I would still experiment on slides of sperm if I could. Can't think of a more meaningful application of citizen science. People deserve to know the truth one way or the other.

It would make a better thread than clickbait. Nobody here even follows links unless they are new.

>>10858796
so what about my skin and eyes?

>>10859088
bacteria are the other end of the spectrum. they are simply too tiny to interact with the 5g wavelengths.

>>10859056
>I don't have sperm in my cum.
Listen here little baby, you're going to get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments. But, that ain't what I'm about. I want you to know that you're perfect just the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want.
>mfw thinking about you hurting

>>10859240
Adey 1993 - Biological Effects of Electromagnetic Fields:
"COOPERATIVE MODELS OF FREE RADICAL BEHAVIOR IN EM FIELD BIOEFFECTS

Research at the other extreme in the EM spectrum also support concepts of free radical interactions. There may be special significance to biomolecular interactions with millimeter wave EM fields. At frequencies within the range 10-1,000 GHz, resonant vibrational or rotational interactions, not seen at lower frequencies, may occur with molecules or portions of molecules. Biomolecular and cell research in this spectral region has been meager. Studies in solutions of DNA and of growth effects in bacteria have yielded conflicting results that may relate to extreme technical difficulties not encountered at lower frequencies. There are major problems in the engineering of suitable exposure systems, in ensuring biocompatible exposure devices, and in evaluation of experimental data for physical and biological artifacts.

Studies of yeast cell growth by a team of German scientists over the past 15 years using athermal millimeter wave fields have shown that growth appears finely "tuned" to applied field frequencies around 42 GHz, with successive peaks and troughs at intervals of about 10 MHz. In recent studies, they noted that the sharpness of the tuning increases as the intensity of the imposed field decreases; but the tuning peak occurs at the same frequency when the field intensity is progressively reduced. Moreover, clear responses occur with incident fields as weak as 5 picowatts/cm^2.

>>10859262
In a recent synthesis emphasizing nonthermal interactions of EM fields with cellular systems, Grundler et al. [1992] present models of the sequence of EM field transductive coupling, based on magnetic field-dependent chemical reactions, including cytochrome-catalyzed reactions that involve transient radical pairs, and production of free radicals, such as reactive oxygen or nitric oxide, leading to further highly cooperative amplification step. Based on Frohlich's [1986] model of interactions between an imposed field and high-frequency (10^12 Hz) intracellular van der Pol oscillators, they conclude that "imposed fields can be active even at intensities near zero." In other words, a threshold might not exist in such a system."
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5306/e5b2a202f3aaa815ff553d5d28c5606a746f.pdf

>>10859264
[m] = http://www.mediafire.com/folder/dj875cd10yb72/EMF
-Eastern Europe, Soviet and Russian work
[m][Studies in Soviet Science] Pathological Effects of Radio Waves (1973) - Mariya Sergeevna Tolgskaya, Zinaida Vasil’evna Gordon
[m]1977 - TRANSLATIONS ON USSR SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BIOMEDICAL SCIENCES (GUO 28/77) EFFECTS OF NONIONIZING ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION
(https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp88b01125r000300120005-6))
[m][CIA] 1993 - EFFECTS OF ELETROMAGNETIC RADIATION ON BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS: CURRENT STATUS IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION
(https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000100070001-9))
Changes in bacterial behavior
[m][CIA] 1971 - INDUCTION OF COLICINE SYNTHESIS BY MEANS OF MILLIMETER RADIATION
(https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000500090006-4))

[m][Moscow Symposium] 1998 - Electromagnetic fields biological effects and hygienic standardization
Page 171: Betskii - On the sensitivity of living organisms to superweak electromagnetic waves in the millimetre range
Page 429: Ushakov - Cooperative influence of the circularly polarised millimeter waves and EtBr on E.Coli cells

Belyaev 2000 - Nonthermal Effects of Extremely High-Frequency Microwaves on Chromatin Conformation in Cells in vitro — Dependence on Physical,Physiological, and Genetic Factors
https://www.avaate.org/IMG/pdf/IEEE_MTT_paper.pdf

-mmWave Weapon Systems
Active Denial, crowd control
https://jnlwp.defense.gov/Press-Room/Fact-Sheets/Article-View-Fact-sheets/Article/577989/active-denial-technology/

-Millimeter wave body scanners, surveillance
[...]

-Insects
Thielens 2018 - Exposure of Insects to Radio-Frequency Electromagnetic Fields from 2 to 120 GHz
https://www.nature.com/["spam"]
Halverson 1999 - Microwave and millimeter wave method and apparatus for controlling insects in stored-products
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6192598B1/en

>>10859266
https://www.emfacts.com/2019/07/swiss-magazine-reports-first-5g-injuries-in-geneva/?fbclid=IwAR39lEfe3LkusZv722LyCWzJGeoCWL4IKRVoOSlH463nopkXvjUXypJS1i8

Martin Pall to the NIH on 5G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBsUWbUB6PE
Dr. Sharon Goldberg Testifies at Michigan's 5G Small Cell Tower Legislation Hearing October 4, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK0AliMe-KA
Scientists Warn of Health Effects: Washington DC Council 5G Small Cell Roundtable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljLynbr5iPc
Claire Edwards, UN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SlpEyvDmw4

Senator Blumenthal Raises Concerns on 5G, industry has made no attempt to study effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNC0J3xx1w&t=42s
However, at least one industry interest group later made a (fairly trivial) donation to Blumenthal's next campaign.
https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?data_type=processed&committee_id=C00262295&two_year_transaction_period=2020&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020
The Blumenthal questioning should not be taken as indication that someone in government is doing something about this. It may also establish "plausible" (legal) deniability.

Power density measurements of the 850/868MHz (sub GHz) components of 5G. This would be emitted by equipped LED streetlights and various other sources.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kno0rJa_nUc

White house disposition (Long):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBbY8fvTidU

-Media and disinformation
https://microwavenews.com/news-center/fact-free-hit-5g-critic

Summaries:
https://ehtrust.org/scientific-research-on-5g-and-health/
https://ehtrust.org/letter-fcc-dr-yael-stein-md-opposition-5g-spectrum-frontiers/
https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phoneswireless/5g-networks-iot-scientific-overview-human-health-risks/
https://www.youtube.com/user/watchehtrust/videos

>>10859268
Pall 2018 - 5G: Great risk for EU, U.S. and International Health! Compelling Evidence for Eight Distinct Types of Great Harm Caused by Electromagnetic Field (EMF) Exposures and the Mechanism that Causes Them
https://peaceinspace.blogs.com/files/5g-emf-hazards--dr-martin-l.-pall--eu-emf2018-6-11us3.pdf

-Brillouin Precursors
https://betweenrockandhardplace.wordpress.com/2019/05/24/guest-blog-can-5g-phased-array-antennas-generate-brillouin-precursors-by-don-maisch/
https://microwavenews.com/news/backissues/m-a02issue.pdf
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a282990.pdf

Neufeld 2018 - Systematic Derivation of Safety Limits for Time-Varying 5G Radiofrequency Exposure Based on Analytical Models and Thermal Dose.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30247338
Feldman 2008 - Human skin as arrays of helical antennas in the millimeter and submillimeter wave range.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18517913
Feldman 2009 - The electromagnetic response of human skin in the millimetre and submillimetre wave range.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19430110


It's time to disagree, the right way.

>bees drop
>ITS SAFE FOR PEOPLE

You know damn well this shit wont end with happyend

>>10859118
You can see the increased rate of attenuation in water at around the upper levels of the 5G spectrum in this chart. At high power levels close to the emitters it would be reasonable to expect that these frequencies would raise the temperature of fluids exposed to them.

The testes have low volume which could increase the heating effect. This in turn could cause the testes to descend in an attempt to cool themselves. In doing so they increase their exposure to even more radiation.

Is it dangerous? Only science can tell.

>>10858756
>Bees build nest in antennas.
>Cell company removes nest
>bees left on ground after nest removal
>Spooky video

Well I guess that's it for us humans.

Dont give a fuck. We humans are beyond point to stop this. It changed out thinking and genome. Build yourself faraday cage and try to be there for more than 10 minutes you will go insane. If humanity will lose power for more than hour and everything shuts off everyone will literally fucking kill themselves.

>>10859326
>everyone will literally fucking kill themselves.
Pretty much a slightly faster way of doing what they're already doing.

Perhaps it is for the best, overall.

>>10858804
they do it on purpose
they consider themselves "agents" or "operatives" or some shit and have a little "mission" to infiltrate other boards (/v/, /sp/, /sci/, /vg/, /mu/, etc) to sway their political affiliations and worldview.

>>10859396
I dont understand what is /pol/ about this thread. There is nothing political about this. What.

>>10858804
>.

>>10858814
Why not both?

>>10858756
Any non-retarded source for this?

>>10859400
They're a social media cult that's been weaponized as a grassroots movement/attack dog. Implant a few articles of misinformation and create few posts, and you turn the cult against anything you desire.

Attack dogs/cult on demand.
War has changed.
sorry for pic

>>10859096
>I was doing this the other day.
>Just used a typical infrared heat lamp.

So you into sum weird sick-fuckery, or what?

>>10859301
Came here to post this.

Unless anybody has something other than a tabloid rag reporting this, there's nothing to see here.

>>10859431
Well, I don't want get into the details, I figured it would enhance the transdermal trafficking of lipids and lipid soluble compounds, and also mobilize any junk in the body and stimulate sweating. I started off with my back, but found it had an interesting sensation on the genitals.

>>10859400
not this thread
just look through other threads, it's pretty easy to tell what's /pol/ and what's not

post/threads about IQ difference between race
post/threads about American blacks and violence
posts/threads about women being less intelligent/less capable/not trustworthy

any variation on regular /pol/ shit

>>10859444
>started off with my back, but found it had an interesting sensation on the genitals.
like your mom and me when she was massaging me the other day

>>10859448
Probably not, but I can't prove it.

>>10859444
>but found it had an interesting sensation on the genitals.
WTF

>>10859298

>>10859451
When you move your arm through the infrared beam, it's like moving it through a thin floating liquid. You can feel the field gradient in and on your skin.

>>10859446
>it's pretty easy to tell what's /pol/ and what's not

and yet clear and easy to tell as it is, mods refuse to do jack shit, because...... fuck I don't know why. WTF! I want m00t back.

hiroshima nagasaki can suck a dick

>>10858756
SHOCKING FOOTAGE

There's a fucking handful of dead bees, maybe even less since it's been filmed with a shakey potato. What the fuck?

>>10859525
You should be more sensitive, Some people have severe allergic reactions to bee stings. They could be scarred for life watching this video without a trigger warning.