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Say that two groups of humans were genetically modified so that they developed and aged differently, one significantly faster than normal humans, and another significantly more slowly, at least after infancy? What advantages and disadvantages would each group have compared with each other and normal humans?

>> No.10839919

>>10838823
Anyone?

>> No.10839956

>>10839919
Faster maturation rates imply faster adaptability (since you can breed and die faster, natural selection can act quicker)
I think that a longer maturation rate is needed so the adult forms can be more "powerful", basically allowing for the baby to keep growing and maturing outside of the womb. I'm not sure about this though.
So if you could age faster while getting the same adult form, maturing faster would be better no doubt. If it was a trade off, however, humans could probably benefit from a longer life cycle simply due to extra intelligence gains.
I'm assuming a quicker maturation doesn't lead to an early death though, but if that's the case we'd benefit more from living longer due to our ability to pass on knowledge. Also, maturing fast and dumb just to die young would basically make us more like animals.

>> No.10840379

>>10838823
Lifespan

>> No.10840382

I see no downsides to left

>> No.10840386

>>10838823
Lolis are so hot desu

>> No.10840387

>>10838823
Intellect, as your image shows. I guess it's felt on an intuitive level.

On a testable level smarter primates take longer to mature, because they have a prolonged "growth period" for their brain.

If you mature fast your brain stop growing early, leading to a low level of brain development. This is also why we live longer than any other ape.

>> No.10840390

>>10840387
>This is also why we live longer than any other ape.
Nah we live longer because of medicine

>> No.10840391

>>10838823
That difference in sexual development
That difference in intelligence
>asian vs black

>> No.10840393

>>10840390
Captive apes living with vets and modern medicine don't live as long as us. Though they do live longer than wild apes.

We live longer than any other ape.

>> No.10840471

>>10839956
No it wouldn't. Humans don't barely need to live past 30 these days. If you don't waste time you can get your PhD done by 26 and become a postdoc. Basically you can spend the next few years doing cutting edge research and then die at 30.
Most things humans contribute to science is done rather early in life. You don't accomplish much after 35. Humans could do with a sped up cycle. I'm kind of sad I didn't have kids already.

>> No.10840474

>>10840382
Low birth rates I bet.

>> No.10841407

>>10840393
How much of that is medicine?

>> No.10841544

>>10840474
With a lifespan that long, probably not an issue.

>> No.10841583

>>10840387
Sauce on that?

>> No.10841599

>>10841544
If a few wars happen in quick succession with no chance to recover their population, they could be wiped out.

>> No.10842095

>>10841583
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=human+long+childhood

>> No.10843114

>>10838823
Bumping into the night

>> No.10843901
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10843901

>>10838823

Story time:

A friend of mine met a girl at a bar, they were both retarded drunk. He tells her that if she will come home with him he will take her out with him on a vacation to Bermuda (drunk stupid stuff you say to women to get them sleep with you).
Next morning he sobers up and realizes she is actually retarded and is excited about going on this trip to Bermuda. He is mortified, embarrassed, and scared shitless he may have knocked her up (he did not).


Be careful about meeting drunk women.

>> No.10844919

>>10840474
What about the right?

>> No.10845523

>>10843901
>excuse to go to bermuda
>implied sex will continue to happen at least during the trip
What's the issue here?

>> No.10846232

>>10845523
>>excuse to go to bermuda
>>implied sex will continue to happen at least during the trip
>What's the issue here?

There is no way he wanted to bring a virtual stranger with him to Bermuda.
This was Southern California, getting sex is not too difficult.
She was literally retarded. Taking advantage of retarded people is not cool, he just wanted a late night weekend pickup.

>> No.10846245

>>10839956
>I'm assuming a quicker maturation doesn't lead to an early death
It does, though. We have Hayflick limit. Our cells can only divide a finite number of times.

>> No.10847418

>>10843901
Cute cat though.

>> No.10847558

>>10846245
>Our cells can only divide a finite number of times.

Our cells can TYPICALLY only divide a finite number of times.

fixed it for you. We know for a fucking fact that SOME cancer cells can divide seemingly infinitely

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10847561

>>10847418
>Cute cat though.

Clever

>> No.10848337

>>10846245
I meant in this trade-off. You could put as a rule of the scenario either, since it's a hypothetical one. There's no real hard rule for fictional humans, due to their biology possibly allowing for workarounds.
For example, they could have a lower cell division rate after maturation, or slower metabolisms. Or perhaps their cells don't degrade at the exact same rate as ours, slowing down degradation.
Sure, it would be arbitrary to impose such rules, but you could if you wanted to. The question really is whether you want to or not.

>> No.10848655

>>10843901
>people who trust me are retarded

This is legit rape in some places, BTW

>> No.10849949

>>10848655
It's certainly morally dubious.

>> No.10851241

>>10849949
Yeah...

>> No.10852008

>>10848655
Like where?

>> No.10852012

>>10844919
Maybe shorter lifespan.

>> No.10852196

>>10838823
>left
just imagine a wife that stays beautiful for hundreds of years instead of hitting the wall after a few years

>> No.10852333

>>10852008
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception

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10852703

>>10840471

>> No.10853724

>>10852703
What?

>> No.10854245

Night bump

>> No.10854432 [DELETED] 

>>10852703
People really tend to get dumb over time so that by their mid 35 they rarely able to do much except that keep doing what they were doing. Which in professions that are centered around innovation means that most people become burned out candles by their mid 30s, late fourties at best.

>> No.10854434

>>10852703
People really tend to get dumb over time so that by 35 they are rarely able to do much except tho keep doing what they were doing. Which in professions that are centered around innovation means that most people become burned out candles by their mid 30s, late fourties at best.

>> No.10854727

>>10854434
Humans peak around late twenties. The rest is just cope or outliers.
I wish I hadn't wasted time.

>> No.10855160

>>10854727
I don't think there is a peak, it's more a gradual decline of intelligence gradually compensated by knowing things from memory.

>> No.10855170

Development rate can be controlled timing reproduction. Delay reproduction and the organism evolves a longer lifespan.

>> No.10856433

>>10855170
How do you delay reproduction?

>> No.10857230

>>10856433
Good question...

>> No.10857249

>>10838823
Faster evolution for the short-lived group, more knowledge acquisition by the long-lived one.

>> No.10858733

>>10852333
Yeah, that’s it

>> No.10858803

Longer childhood is associated with greater levels of intelligence.

>> No.10859018

>>10846245
Hayflick limit is for passes in cell cultures. Our stem cells are quiescent much of the time so we pretty much completely avoid the problem of a hayflick limit.

>> No.10860087

>>10858803
Sauce?

>> No.10860128

>>10838823
R/K life history strategies probably higher litter sizes and shorter period between births

>> No.10861708

>>10838823
bumping

>> No.10862510

>>10861708
it

>> No.10862551

>>10854434
>People burn out past 30
Nice meme. Now please do post this most authoritative source of yours. I will wait.

>> No.10862785

>>10840471
did i just read a guide on how to speedrun life? is this the stage of oversocialization we're at now?

>> No.10862788

>>10854727
research shows humans tend to peak twice (in terms of creativity), in their mid-late 20s and then again in 50s (but i forget if it's early, mid or late 50s)

>> No.10864223

>>10840390
What medicine?

>> No.10864464

>>10838823
Right.

>> No.10865659

>>10856433
Anyone?>

>> No.10867201

>>10862785
>oversocialization
What?

>> No.10867828

>>10867201
Don't know either.

>> No.10868669

>>10838823
As a wise man once said:
>I want that goblin on my face and that elf on my dick

>> No.10870056

>>10868669
Best advice I've ever heard

>> No.10871188

>>10868669
Why those specific spots?

>> No.10872888

bump

>> No.10874422

>>10862788
What do you mean, peak?

>> No.10874439

>>10840471
>I'm kind of sad I didn't have kids already.
Have sex

>> No.10874660

>>10846232
>Taking advantage of retarded people is not cool
And yet that is the totality of what he did. The least he could have done is taken her on a trip afterwards.

>> No.10875448

>>10840471
That's depressing.

>> No.10876575

>>10841599
What if they had a longer reproductive period?

>> No.10877297

>>10868669
Hot. Also 69 lmao

>> No.10877300

>>10876575
They probably did. But when you're a long lived creature, it takes you a long time to mature enough to have kids. Humans can't have kids till they're around 10 at the earliest. 16 or later to make sure you don't die.
With elves that would probably go all the way if they're able to live 6 times longer than humans. Elves would have to be 40 years old to have kids.

>> No.10878179

>>10877297
What?

>> No.10878399
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10878399

>>10838823
>Nine
How much is that in orc years?

>> No.10878674

>>10840390
Humans have a high infant mortality rate, but in ancient civilization if a guy made it past 25 then he was pretty much guaranteed to live as long as a modern human. Women had it easier, only having to make it past their first couple births. Modern medicine only saves the genetically inferior, not increases our lifespan.

>> No.10879076

>>10878399
According to warcraft orcs reach adulthood at 12 but live till 90 on average
Humans only live till 60 or 70 in comparison

>> No.10879244

>>10878179
Post ending in 69

>> No.10880692

>>10878674
Why was the mortality rate for mothers so high?

>> No.10880709

>>10880692
I dunno

>> No.10881865

>>10880692
Poor hygiene?

>> No.10881922

>>10852333
>In November 2015, British Judge Roger Dutton sentenced a 25-year-old woman, Gayle Newland, to eight years in prison for pretending to be a man as a means of having sex with an unnamed woman of the same age. Newland had made her female victim believe that she was a man by means of deception and used the deception in order to have sex with her on more than 10 occasions. Newland's victim was shocked to discover that her "boyfriend" was in reality female, and testified in Chester Crown Court to a jury that she would have preferred to have been raped by a man.[4][5][6]

>> No.10882106

>>10881922
I'd let Gayle Newland be my boyfriend :3