/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10836834
Langan is a fuckin idiot who is good at IQ tests. Tao has a fields medal, the mathematical equivalent of a nobel prize. He's also very good at communicating and bringing researchers together on problems. He works a lot on combinatorics and number theory.

>>10836844
I bet Langan wrote his own wikipedia page. Look at this shit lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Langan

Reminds me of Master Legend's origin story

>>10836857
I'd only heard of him recently because someone cited him as an intellectual Trump supporter. Decided to look at one of his "published papers". So fuckin bad.

>>10836857
>[unreliable source?]
kekked

>>10836861
>So fuckin bad
What do you mean?

>>10836834
question 7

>>10836834
Well he got into uni at like 10 or some shit. So he was able to comprehend math at the level of an adult. His contributions to mathematics are excellent which got him a Fields Medal. His mathematical skills are so good that if you placed him in the 16-1800s he would be in the ranks as some of the mathematicians most are familiar with. However because if where math is at right now it's hard to do anything as profound or Groundbreaking now a days as opposed to post-enlightenment era or whatever the fuck it's called lol. I think he's also proven a couple of conjectures too which have serious results in Number Theory and something else I forget. Also not to mention his vast knowledge of different subfields of math. It's approaching Hilbert but idt he'll ever quite get to his level that being said.

>>10836834

>what has Tao done that makes him such a commonly cited candidate for smartest person alive?

He outlived Alexander Grothendieck.

>>10837156
>Also not to mention his vast knowledge of different subfields of math
This is a big thing that most people will never appreciate, because they have no idea how vast mathematics is today

>>10837184
Yeah nobody will ever appreciate that fact. Its too bad because people only see him for his IQ scores and shit. Being able to prove some really good results in math now should be enough to tell you how bright this individual is.

>>10836844
>>10836857
>>10836861
I'm surprised that out of Langan and Pynchon it was Langan who got pounced on. I thought there would be at least one post going 'lol why did you put an author'.
t. Mathfag (not OP), don't browse /sci/ that much and had my mental image skewed by the huge amount of STEM midwits you see, particularly in Engineering and CS

>>10837156
You really need to learn how to write so as to not come off like a stoner bro.

>>10837237
Sorry?

>>10836861
Hillary lost.

>>10836834
>>10837235
yeah what the fuck why pynchon?

>>10837235
this is interesting

https://www.ets.org/s/gre/pdf/gre_guide_table4.pdf

>>10837237
How do you learn how to write?

>>10836857
>In a 2014 radio interview, Langan said that he has worked on the P versus NP problem and thinks he can prove that P does not equal NP. However, he states that he think his work might not be reviewed by the community, and so does not wish to spend the time and effort. [16]

lol

>>10836857
>In a 2014 radio interview, Langan said that he has worked on the P versus NP problem and thinks he can prove that P does not equal NP. However, he states that he think his work might not be reviewed by the community, and so does not wish to spend the time and effort.

This is the fucking academic equivalent of "yea I have a GF she just goes to another school"

>>10836857
He did, he replies to comments in the talk section defending his claims

>>10837156
So, he's like, really good at showing people how to count.

Kewl beanz.

>>10836857
"In January 2018, Langan's article >"Metareligion as the Human Singularity" was published in Cosmos and History: The Journal of Natural and Social Philosophy, Vol 14, No 1 (2018).[18]"
Jesus Christ. Is the Journal his own self publishing outfit?

>>10836857
>On one side is the Human Singularity, a mass realization of the expansive
spiritual identity of the human species. Basically, this is the mass spiritual awakening
that we have been led to expect by, e.g., certain currents in “New Age” thought.

>>10837867
Classic author maneavor. Jesus did the same thing!

>>10837870
Correct! Welcome to Integran Spirituality: Iota Integrity Imagination!

Starts with 4chan users and I've been infecting the public. Today I did sadhguru's consciousness, so weee free ride for all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkFZn4oPMqE

>>10837828
Imagine being too stupid to understand what math is

>>10837647
you don’t

>>10837184
It's vast but most of that vastness is dead-end motivationless subsubfields, and most of the rest is the same shit over and over. It's quite easy to discern the mainlines of mathematics and read up on them.

>>10837131
Nearly no references to any academic works other than his own, no math beyond formal logic that's all defined in his own terms, and only one of his papers has received a single citation in another journal other than the one that he publishes in, which has a near-zero impact factor.

>>10837257
t. snowflake that sees the word trump and has to jump to his imaginary defense.

>>10837965
No part of this comment is true in any way whatsoever.

>>10837978
But is his theory bad or did you understand it?

>>10837999
It's what we call in physics: 'not even wrong'.

>>10836861
His claim to fame is that he has the highest IQ ever recorded. However, he also grew up in a rural area.

>>10838018
Yeah so he's good at taking IQ tests and that's about it. A stupid person's smart person

>>10838007
But it's philosophical.

>>10837169
Serre and Deligne are still alive, as is Witten.

>>10838112
It's what we call in philosophy: 'horseshit'.

>>10836844
>smartest mathematician alive
>works in useless fields
Fucking why?

>>10838229
I mean, he pretty much works in every field. What fields would you say aren't useless?

>>10836857
Well that's one more person to add to my "looks like super Mario" list which includes Ron Jeremy.

>>10837156
>like 10 or some shit
>16-1800s
>the mathematicians most are familiar with
>whatever the fuck it's called lol
>a couple of conjectures
>something else I forgot

... aaaand nothing of value was actually said in this post.

Tao has a fields medal while langan is a meme

>>10838250
While this one is teeming with value

>>10836844

Fields medals and Nobel prizes are meaningless virtue signals and a bunch of industry personalities patting themselves on the back.

It's like actors and oscars.

>>10838416
...and other things retards say.

>>10836844
Actually, he's not even good at IQ tests. There are ZERO confirmed test results. Everything said about him has come from his mouth... literally NOTHING has been verified. He's a bullshit artist, 100%

>>10838492
Standard IQ tests don't score about 160. Langan is a liar, provably so. He's been debunked several times, and the only people who still take him seriously are the idiots who don't know better.

>>10838116
Those certainly are good candidates to smartest man alive.

Grothendieck was probably the most talented mathematician who has ever lived. There's a level of genius where the great legends are, like von Neumann, Erdös, Gödel, Einstein, Feynman, Riemann, Gauss, Newton, Euler, etc. I would put Grothendieck one level above them.

>>10838592
Interesting. I'd definitely put Grothendieck a level above Erdos (i dont think he belongs here personally) Godel, and possibly Riemann, but my boy von Neumann? I dunno. A whole level above seems generous, It's definitely close. I find it hard to compare 1700s and further back, it's like comparing modern boxers to classic boxers, but Euler was a machine and has a strong shout for pound4pound GOAT.

>>10837965
It is? Where’s your paper trail showing that it’s the case? Nobody who’s gone through grad school would be so foolish to say they understand all the mainlines
>oh but I’m an autodidact and my books make it all simple
Typical 4chan dumbfuck

>>10838229
>>10838242
/sci/ posters who denigrate X field as useless are usually beginning undergrads who want to fit in, graduated engineering students who see their career path as practical and gainful despite doing work that is often removed from interests of the common man, or from people in neighboring / sister fields who jerk themselves off to a shift in priorities. Math is just an easy target when you don’t understand it, or if you’ve had enough math to see its practicum but not enough to see why proof and precision is so important
t. physics grad

>>10838229
Tao has worked extensively in pde. If that's not useful I don't know what is.

>>10838416
This poster should be promptly inducted and (unres)trained for a Darwin award.

He created an excel sheet of spreadsheet data that decides for the participant what they may declare is a useful "set" of information in data to use that "data" in creating a participating set, like using a machine to create a register in it that will keep you "updated" to using the machine as some other kind of machine, a reversed difference engine that can lock you into inputs, and he is also willing to participate in fascism that creates their zero fact use of war. He also is just repeating things he is told to make possible and then regards that he knows calculus pretty good but then he's not good at using physics instead.

>>10837982
you're never going to turn "snowflake" on us shill, never.

>>10838416
So what have you accomplished?

>>10839022
> t.riggered

>>10838250
>Greentexting arbitrary parts of the text
Christ then go to his wiki page if you wish to seek value. It's going to say what I said but in more detail anyway so have at it retard.

>>10838107
Lmao Tao doesn't take IQ tests as a sport you twat. He's a professor at UCLA doing research and teaching because unlike most of the high IQ individuals he's actually displaying a level of intelligence that you couldn't comprehend even if you tried.

>>10839154
is reading comprehension part of an IQ test? because you might wanna go back and reread what you responded to. (hint: he's talking about Langen)

>>10838710
>redditors haven't invaded 4chan

>>10838653
A whole new level might be too generous. But I would definitely put Grothendieck's genius at the top of mathematics and physics.

> Grew up with a foster family in 1930s Germany (he was jewish).
> Lost his father at young age
> His biological mother later took him to France and they lived in a detention camp
> Enrolled in a 3rd rate university at 17
> Rediscovered measure theory and the Lebesgue integral in his spare time because he didn't like the imprecise way his teacher taught calculus
> Goes to Paris for a PhD with Schwartz (Fields medalist) and Dieudonné (Bourbaki's text writer)
> They give him a list of about a dozen open problems they couldn't solve so he would think about them. Maybe he would come up with some idea about one of them.
> Solves all problems in less than a year and has enough material for FIVE PhD thesis
> Becomes foremost expert in topological vector spaces
> Dedicates himself to algebraic geometry. Revolutionizes the whole field.
> Leads the Algebraic Geometry Seminar at IHES with a frenetic rhythm of research and selfless collaboration
> Creates and develops mathematical tools which are extremely abstract, general, and difficult to understand, yet changes the landscape of pure mathematics.
> Receives the Fields Medal
> ...
> Loses his mind

>>10838653
>>10840049
Fucking environmentalists...

>>10839169
I don't recall anyone asking you to speak, you fucking nerd. Silence.

>>10839169
Oh I thought they were talking about Tao my bad kek, my reading comp isn't terrible by the way I just missed something. Big deal

>>10839358
>Anyone who points out my shitposts is reddit
I think some of these boards might be more your speed frendo >>>/b/, >>>/bantz/, >>>/pol/

>>10840054
imagine thinking this and then typing it out. fuckin cringe man

>>10837957
Serious answers only please.

>>10840858
Im being serious I almost never jest on 4channel even when it would be warranted to do so

>>10840866
What an unhelpful idiot you are.

>>10838416
dumbest post i've seen this entire month

>>10836834

>>10841571
i didnt want to lie to you

>>10836834
fuck his shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZdlKo9Ee4c

>>10836857
LMFAO

Practically speaking Tao has done nothing remarkable, he really has had no significant impact besides a couple areas in compressed sensing.

Basically his work is theoretical and while interesting not really very important.

>>10837257
Bernie also lost.

>>10842952
Bernie will win in 2020 though.

>>10843143
burnie already won in our hearts as a great movie

>>10836834
>Langan
>Pynchon

JFL these guys are both really dumb.

>>10843146
>burnie
>movie
?

>>10837235
>>10837366
he has a really wide breadth of knowledge and is a great author but idk if he's the smartest person alive

what is his nationality or ethnicity?

>>10846192
Yellow

>>10837717
>>10837788
The matter has been satisfactorily resolved for my own purposes (which, incidentally, are the only purposes about which I care in this context).

There are two different solutions, one of which applies in a certain framework defined as “metacausal”, “precomputational” or “protocomputational”, and the other of which applies in a causal or computational limit thereof. This amounts to a relativization of the solution. Although I can’t say for sure, I suspect that in the view of the “Millennium Prize” Committee, this falls short of an actual Y|N solution, leaving me nothing whatsoever to gain by submission.

(We also have the serious problem of bias on the Millennium Prize Committee, expressed by Andrew Wiles as their complete certainty that no non-academic is capable of solving any of the problems. This, of course, guarantees that the submissions of nonacademics will in effect be circular-filed, leaving them no rational choice but to disregard such prizes, and where necessary, the professional academics who award them to each other.)

>>10846238
hey u have same name as me irl

>>10846238
yawn

>>10846238
I think you and my friend John Tooker would get along

>>10837999
The fact that nobody but Langan can understand his work is proof of Langan's inability to write and not of any sort of profoundness.

This is what all scholars and real philosophers understand and what makes Langan so attractive to pseuds who would rather convince others of their intelligence by claiming to be able to understand incomprehensible tomes than actually learn something.

>>10846329
I've yet to see an ant understand shakespeare.

>>10846347
But I'm not talking about ants here. Whether anon understands Langan is irrelevant. That serious philosophers don't is.

>>10840245
>my reading comp isn't terrible by the way I just missed something.
Bro, you fucked up big time in your rush to bash somebody. You have shit reading comprehension, and it's because you have a chip on your shoulder and think everybody else is a retard. This hinders your ability to pick out the most reasonable interpretation.

Tao grew up in rural backcountry? Tao "only" good at taking IQ tests and having that be his claim to fame? (in the post before) Tao being cited as an "intellectual Trump supporter"? Are you kidding me? Of course that entire chain of comments was referring to Langan, not Tao.

>>10846293
I want to live In a world where Langan takes Tooker in and gives him a home and they live together writing papers no one else understands and complain about no one accepting their work.

>>10837965
wrong

>>10838229
>>10838671
This.
You can thank him for more accurate weather forecasts.

>>10846192
Austrasian

>>10846491
That's beautiful

>>10846238
>t. Langan
We need picture and timestamp.

>>10836857
>Master Legend's origin story
what is it?

>>10847072
https://youtu.be/WaNsVEGbc5Y?t=809
https://youtu.be/WaNsVEGbc5Y?t=2224

>>10836834
well...for starters, he’s a chink

>>10836834
you mean smartest non-Occult/Voodoo practitioner

>>10847175
LOL, Defendor is a true story!
ty anon

>>10847175
if he's got healing powers why doesn't he fix his teeth.

>>10838229
>smartest mathematician alive
He's a mathematician, he doesn't give a shit about what's useless or not, only what's interesting to him.

>>10846417
I didn't know you could deconstruct my thought process over a few comments. Gee bill you must be some kind of a genius. So i missed 3 things and maaaybe didnt look at the previous comments. Okay I own my mistake. However I will mention 2 things.
>shit reading comprehension
yes at the time it was because i decided to post at 4am and clearly was too tired. That being said, my overall reading comp as you seem to be implying isn't "shit". It's not the best and usually i read things very carefully but i just happened to "rush and bash" like you said so fair enough.
>you have a chip on your shoulder and think everybody else is a retard.
I never said this nor thought this. I could careless about peoples intelligence let alone mine. If someone can talk about mathematics with me then that is all i really care about.
So call me stupid or whatever you like i simply don't care i just thought i would apologize and tell you where you went wrong in your comment.

>>10848664
>>10846417
>>10838107
>>10839169
Oh and i'm very sorry forgot to throw that at the end.