/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10836080
That's a good point. How are we different from dinosaurs.

>>10836080
earth's atmospheric oxygen was too low for more complex brains to properly develop

>>10836080
God didn't give them souls.

Dinosaurs did not cook food and therefore did not get enough nutrients to develop big boy brains.
Through natural selection and learning how to cook, humans did.

>>10836168
How did humans learn to cook food though? Why couldn't dinosaurs learn?

>>10836080
Birds exist and are smart.

>>10836080
Because being smart is the most long term evolutionary strategy. It only gets good after a massive amount of time, and during this intermediate period the brain basically just sucks up energy. The fact that we aren't made extinct is a miracle.

>>10836182
that we weren't made extinct*

We're not actually sure being smart is a good evolutionary strategy, dinosaurs lasted millions of years and humans might not even make it to 200 thousand.

>>10836177
Because dinosaurs were big fuckers without proper grappling skill (keep in mind they, in fact, did not have hands made for grappling) and the fact that they did not store their meats.
Keep in mind that cooking meat is what got humans to where we are now, so therefore this would only apply to the carnivores.
Humans probably learnt how to cook because of a random lightning strike or heat fire caused on a village's food source, only to have the food eaten by the villagers afterward because they didn't want to waste or some shit. Regardless, because they would find the cooked food more pleasing, this turned into a sort of tradition, I suppose.
Would dinosaurs do that? No, dinosaurs wouldn't have the base level intelligence needed to recognize the fact that the food indeed got cooked in the first place.

>>10836189
Interesting

>>10836080
>why did dinosaurs never became smart?
There was no selective pressure to develop intelligence. This is also erroneous since the direct descendants of dinosaurs (birds) have species making it the third most intelligent class of animals on Earth. Ravens have as many neurons in their forebrain as horses, and can both use and create tools.
>in 200 thousand years humans became the smartest beings on the planet.
To be honest, you should count fron when Homo diverged from Pan, so it'd be 2 million years.
>dinosaurs lived for millions of years, wouldn't that mean they should have evolved into smart beings as well?
No. By that logic, all plants should have one billion IQ and all bacteria are part of a single ascendant hivemind that plays chess with God daily.
>why didn't they?
Why would they? There is no evolutionary pressure for it. Dinosaurs only required nutrition, and their food grew literally everywhere. They had barely any predators, their feathers were already resistant to the weather (the feather is the most evolved form of hair, as it is the best at temperature regulation and keeping away parasites from the skin), they had no opposable thumbs or any need for tools.
>what makes us special?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The fact you still possess an anthropocentric view of the world where you believe you're special just shows you have little life experience and that if you met a slightly more sophisticated intelligent being, you'd break down crying.

>>10836189
>Keep in mind that cooking meat is what got humans to where we are now, so therefore this would only apply to the carnivores.

>What’s an omnivore
>Humans are carnivores despite possessing zero physiological adaptations for such a diet

>>10836080
Maybe they did and killed themselves in the great war of 65482432BC.

>>10836259
Right, right, omnivores aswell.

>>10836080

Because dinosaurs cant work together in big groups to accomplish big things like we humans do. Apes cant do that either despite being smart aswell. Or do you think 4 guys traveled to moon on there own? No there were 1000 of people that had to work together and use information gathered by millions of other peopleto accomplish that.

>>10836080
you are under the misconception that the only decisive factor on sentient intelligence is time while in reality there are a plethora of criteria that must be met to develop what we would consider today as intelligent life and yes time is a deceive factor but is not the only one
if the key to intelligence was just extremely prolonged amounts of time then a lot of plants or bacteria would be intelligent and sentient

>>10836080
>why did dinosaurs never became smart?
They haven't suffered even one second in the past 65 million years. That makes them smarter than all other organisms who've been living on Earth since then.

>>10836125
i thought the oxygen levels were higher during the times of the dinosaurs and that being the reason for them being so massive?

How can you prove that they didnt?

>>10836080
Why did humans never became smart?
Anyways, we do have some very nice brains but just slightly complex than other species

>>10836080
because dinosaurs didn't exist

you'd need a basic tool making and using intermediary.
Humans evolved from some small primate with articulable front appendages
How many species have something like hands?

>>10836080
humans are an artificial species, doesn't even belong here
some asshat ET killed all dinos to start an ape experiment here

>>10836080
>in 200 thousand years humans became the smartest beings on the planet
They were smarter than the non-Avian dinosaurs for far longer than that

>>10836125
Also CO2 was too high

>>10839348
True

>>10839412
Heels on the ground, comrade found