/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10835486
>by late this weekend.
i live in northen sweden. it's already here.

>>10835486
What the fuck you want them to do?
It's natural, it's not the governments who caused it

This means more farming land for Russia and potentially more opportunities to mine/get oil

>>10835486
Above 40C right now in Paris, almost 40 in parts of the UK. RIP.

>>10835547
Its obviusly part of the NWO's plan to terraform France for the africans and kill of all the old white people who forms the last bastion of white christian values

>>10835510
Russia becomes leader of Europe in 50 years confirmed

>>10835510
Some people dont understand that for quite a few places climate change is a positive impact on the economy. I think I heard poland is looking forward to it because of this, and im sure colder countries are thinking the same. Even in the US half the land becomes less fertile but the other half increases.

>>10835486
By next week, everybody will have forgotten and be focused on some other flavour of the moment.

>>10835486
>And not a single government cares...
Why would they?
It's not like they are sitting in front of buttons which could magically make it go away?

>>10835566
>>10835510

бaзиpoвaнный /sci/

>>10835570
>Some people dont understand that for quite a few places climate change is a positive impact on the economy. I think I heard poland is looking forward to it because of this
No because any of these countries are going to be flooded by immigrants

>>10835570
Not him but in the US here the colder places have very poor soil. Where I live, Kansas, the nutrients in the soil were built up by grasses over the course of millions of years by continual burning and regrowth. Colder forested places haven't had that luxury, so it's still be a net loss in agricultural ouput since we'd need exponentially more fertilizer.

>>10835589
which we won't have since phosphate is likely to be exhausted unless you want the stuff that's mixed with cadmium

>>10835584
>going to be flooded by immigrants
You say that as if it is an unstoppable force.
The EU and North America may have let them in out of charity/pity but I doubt Russia or Poland would be so dumb about it.

>>10835584
Stopping immigration is easy as long as there is at least a little political will to do so. Eastern Europe has this will.

>>10835621
Well, maybe if it is necessary the immigrants could be escorted by the army of the country where they come from. Maybe we could seize those pesky territories :)

>>10835589
this exact post is only ever made once every 20-50 climate change threads and its amazing how dumb this means this board must be.

REMINDER IT IS AMERICANS AND INSECTS WHICH POLLUTES THE MOST> ALL THIS HEAT WAVE IS THEIR FAULT RRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>10835775
Like Somalia is going to do shit against Poland or Ukraine.

>>10835781
Agricultural output is limited by 3 main factors: soil type, rainfall, and to a lesser extent heat. Places like Kansas have high clay concentrations in the soil, which sounds bad, but it actually means that nutrients basically get "embedded" in the clay, so high rainfall and watering are less likely to wash them away. This is the reason why the rainforests of South America actually have horrible soil, the peat from decaying matter is not very compact so the copious rains just wash everything away. Like just last month we had a full years worth of rain and it just reduced the wheat protein levels a little. Northern places with boreal forests suffer the same problem, everything's going to unthaw and they're going to be left with rocky well-drained soil that you have to absolutely douse in fertilizer.

>>10835817
interesting, seen any studies on feasibility of agriculture in northern latitudes this century that consider this? everything ive looked at seems to overemphasize co2 fertilization without regard for repeat desiccation of the soil from heat waves and soil quality differentials.

>>10835564
>France
>religious

>>10835838
Heat resistance is mainly dependent on what you're planting. So in hot, dry conditions the yield of cord decreases substantially less than, say wheat. Though, you have to consider that no matter what, there's a general trend of decreasing topsoil quality and thickness the further you go from the equator, mainly due to gravity. I highly doubt any seasonal gains in places like Canada and Siberia will be enough to be viable, period. Poland and eastern Europe is a different story, their natural landscape is a grassland, so they'll definitely see gains.

>>10835581
It's "бaзoвый"

SEND HELP, I DON'T WANNA DIE

>>10835486
>And not a single government cares...
what the fuck can they do though ? banning straws just to annoy me? will they ban condoms next? KEK

how the fuck can you solve it if not by bombing the shit out of africa india and china, to then kill all the violent hungry people on the west affected by this new eco friendly economy?

>>10835903
This. We just need to wipe the slate clean, just start over.

>>10835903
>kill the people with the smallest carbon foodprint
Genius

>>10835903
>will they ban condoms next?
Incels usually dont need those, cant really see how it will irritate you

>>10835486
Meanwhile it's the coldest summer in Russia.

>>10835931
source: your ass

>>10835940
dilate

>>10835948
>Dilate
Hit a nerve, bot?

>>10835961
bla bla bla

>>10835947
I pretty sure all the Tundra in Siberia is burning right now.

Look at you humans flipping out, learning you are all going to die a slow cooking death. Don't worry! We take care of the planet after you are gone. You did your part as you were told.

>>10835978
cringe

>>10835948
>doesn't understand the concept of outsourcing manufacturing
And i thought /sci/ was the smart board

>>10835948
United States have the highest carbon footprint per capita, so that means you die first, mutt.

So hot? Well I once felt in my house 45C for an entire week. So, you have to pump those number.

South East Spain. I'm at the beach
It's being a cold summer. comfy
hahah enjoy our displaced heat in the north

>>10835984
Die human

>>10835978
I still hope we will die in a nuclear war. Quick instead of slow

>>10835991
oh yeah that would totally stop them from producing and selling their goods so funny

>>10835992
that depends on who will be on charge to make that decision

will it be you?

>the disintegrating culture of death that is wrong about nearly everything that matters, whose entire scientific apparatus is repeatedly demonstrated to be unverifiable bullshit top to bottom, who is directed by people who hate you and want you dead, as it parasites the corpse of a once great civilization, said something is true
>what, you don't believe them???? you think you know better???

>>10835903


> The United States and Europe have been responsible for pollution and climate change for 100 years
> Yes, we should bomb Africa and Asia

>>10836014
why are you on this board, pissjug chump

>>10836029
why are you on this earth demon

>>10836027
cause they got to develop first you smooth brain

>And not a single government cares

the white ones do, thats why their populations are dying

>>10836044
Riddle me this: Why has America's gdp gone up then?

>>10836051
>omg how could that be that the GDP of the most powerful country on earth has gone up?
ok nigger lover

>>10836051
It has nothing to do with the OP or what the poster you’re replying to just said idiot

>>10836010
Yes? The local population doesn't have the wealth to consume as much as westerners

>>10836116
bullshit
business would go on as usual

>>10836138
How is this bullshit exactly?
Do you think these manufacturers are going to lower the prices of their goods even if that would mean operating on a loss?
You do understand there has to be a demand for a business to exist right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j0ykCVAQVM

>>10836201
and you do realize that china would love for this shit to be true because that would mean that they could just take over right? the west is hardly even half of their clients

basically all emerging countries (not just china) are following trail left behind by the west so even if the entire west ceased all emissions, they alone would ensure new emissions for an entire millennia

modern china is rapidly modernizing, they have a growing middle class, are exporting their own products and can't even get sued for copyright, and yet you're implying that there is an invisible hand pulling the strings, you're full of shit

>>10835903
Americans are by far the worst polluters on the planet, and Europe is near as bad.

You're the ones who need to be wiped out.

>>10836010
Certainly won't be you making that decision.

You're a prole drone. They'll axe you and everyone in your family as happily as they would a single indian just as soon as it becomes convenient.

>>10836214
>video by a literal big oil shill
kill your self you fucking tool

>>10836901
oil is based and boomer

>>10835621
>Ngubus get French visa
>Poland is part of EU
>France turns into Rwanda
>Ngubus with French visa immigrate to Poland

>>10836905
Petroleum engineer?

>>10835486
Not true. Pic related. Yeah, it's disappointing. But still, "not a single" is a very sweeping assertion. In addition to pic, on scales below national governments (e.g. city governments), there are governments that are taking action.

>>10835579
They could enact policies to mitigate the damage caused by climate change. This can be done by:
* Making climate change less dramatic
* Doing things that will help cope with the changes (maybe better hurricane shelters or something)

>>10837343
>USA
>CRITICALLY INSUFFICIENT

wow.

(great site btw, thank you)

>>10835486
>climate change is real

>>10837902
np

>>10836027
>>10836852

You see, there is no point at all in humanity existing as a species without having modern technological civilization. This means that countries which produce a lot of economic outpput ought to get a pass on their carbon dioxide emissions.

If you account for this and look at actually meaningful metric, such as ratio of GDP to CO2 emissions, then the list is all over the place, with third world mixed in with second world mixed in with first world.

>>10835570
I’m from Poland and nobody here is looking forward for it. It’s literally unbearable, these temperatures, for most people here, me included. Most of this summer all I can do is to lay down trying not to die from overheating.

>>10835948
>India has x4 the size of U.S population
>u.s. still emits twice as much

You are gonna have to change the source of your alternative facts /pol/so--they are not helping you.

>>10836044
Timmy has 1 apple and johnny has 100 apples in week 1.
A week later, timmy has 3 apples and johnny has 90.
>Timmy has had 300% growth in apples while johnny has lost 10%
>Clearly timmy has all the apples now!

>>10838739
>kill the people with the smallest carbon fooTprint
>pic proves otherwise
>lets single out a single country and devede total emissions per person for no reason at all lel eckz dee

>>10836051
They exported all their polluting heavy industry to China

>>10839078
>we wuz chinese

>>10837343
>>10837902

This is a vague designation system. How the hell is China more committed to reversing global warming than the USA? China should have a gray color and every other country should be orange by comparison. It's not even close.

the balkans are surprisingly cold
last year I remember sweating like a fucking boar, not long ago we were hitting 40s, while now it's pretty cool for the summer.

>>10838615
It's just because you're not used to it-- and you'd get dehumidifiers and A/C if it started becoming common anyway

>>10835621
>charity/pity
how naive

>>10839218
You do realize that China puts out more renewables every year than the total sum of every renewable in the US.

>>10839218
China mostly do it because they are building on shit energy infrastructure/logistics so it's easier to build new factories in random places that happen to have good access to wind and sun power rather than places with access to power lines. They're by many measures miles ahead of India, but it seems like these are purely based on raw emissions data so the greater output of industry puts them worse off overall.

The US tried something similar for small rural manufacturers, but rather than subsidize solar panels or wind turbines the gov subsidized fracking, which turned out to be a massive dud. There's also an American obsession with keeping truckers happy and not developing rail links.

>>10839078
China flooded its own market with cheap low quality steel.

>>10837343
>>10835992
See the problem is, those statistics think per capita matters, but it doesn't. If the whole world would be rich and live like America, yes, that would be bad. But they don't. Extrapolating the living standards of Americans to the whole world means nothing, it's just trying to get to whatever numbers you want to see.
There's only 320 million Americans, but there's billions of Asians and Africans, and they pollute more. Doesn't matter if there's more of them, we only have one earth, and they don't get to fuck it up just because they keep shitting out ugly babies. All green politics should focus on population reduction in overpopulated areas, this will bring the fastest results compared to anything else. But with forced immigration, they do the exact opposite, relieving overpopulated areas of people, by sending them to countries with higher living standards. That increases pollution two-fold, the overpopulated areas keep reproducing exponentially, as they don't hit their carrying capacity, and the immigrated people pollute more due to their now raised living standards.

I can't wait for the world to end

>>10839846
Per capita does matter if whitey uses 10x the resources as someone from Bangladesh.

We are good the US for now, and the US rules the world.

So until shit gets bad in the us, deal with it euros. By the way, the melting of Greenland is literally cooling the continental US. The meltwater on top of the ice is akin to the refrigerator door being left open. Shit is so cash bruh.