/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10815847
Probably get a degree.

>>10815852
How will that help? And what should I do after that?

>>10815847
You can't.
And the saddest part is you'd fail alone because no one is dumb enough to help you

>>10815847
summon Maxwell's demons

>>10815865
Entropy can be reversed. The existence of the universe proves it.

Entropy can actually "reverse" on its own, c.f. fluctuation-dissipation theorems. The only issue is that the probability of this occurring is infinitesimally small (e.g., for a system of a few thousand particles it can be of the order 10^googol). You are fucked mortal, accept death and eternity.

>>10815872
That's not correct. You should definetly start by getting that degree. The laws are a consequence of the way we lay the problems down and, no, they won't be violated, in the same sense that Einstein's relativity doesn't violate Newton's laws

>>10815882
>relativity
Meme-tier pseudoscience

>>10815895
just go get that degree

>>10815907
What will I gain from it?

quantum thermodynamics is a good start

Follow your dreams OP

>>10815910
you'll realise there's no "law" to break. dS<0 is just a consequence of how we define S in our human made models. If you could increase the energy in a so called isolated system, would you have broken thermodinamics or simply redefined what a isolated system means? Stop trying to formulate theories based on wikipedia binge reading -.-

>>10815870
He has more than one demon?
>>10815875
Yes I know it can reverse randomly, I mean technology to reverse it consistently
>>10815916
>>10815922
Thanks

>>10815924
-.-

>>10815933
ok, i give up trying to put some sense in your head. Your actually best bet is to go on /x/ and try to mesure some of the phenomenna there since those clearly violate thermodynamics

>>10815847
Get a Stand that can do that

You guys don't know what entropy is: it's not degradation or a movement to disorder, it's the amount of possible movements that a molecule can take, chaos, randomness, or "disorder" vs a rigid path, "order". A measure in entropy is the amount of possible paths a given object can take. So, why would you want to reverse entropy again?

Besides, like others have said, the idea that the universe and everything in it is decaying constantly, well that's just facetious and pessimistic, in reality everything is costantly transforming in the cycle of life and death. Plants grow out of dirt, air, water, and a seed, "order" from "disorder", but in the actual definition of etropy the molecules in the dirt, water and air are actually gaining entropy, they are gaining availability of new possible paths or movements to take within the structure of the new plant. That's what etropy is, the universe isn;t constantly decaying it's dying and living and birthing al at the same time in a constant state of balance. The universe may end I suppose at some point, but that will just be one more death in the cycle. Imagine the complexity of life at the end of the universe, we are just at it's birth, 14 billion years in.

>>10815859
because never in a million years, no matter how many wikipedia articles or khanacademy videos, will you ever genuinely understand these topics without the push of formal education.
unfortunately, you would also most likely drop out in the first or second year of study once you realise how moronic of a goal this is.

>>10816846
Holy mother of fuck that's a whole lotta wishful thinking with very scarce amounts of science, if any at all.

But i dig it. We react in different ways to our perception of and experience within reality.

>>10816864
>Entropy, the measure of a system's thermal energy per unit temperature that is unavailable for doing useful work. Because work is obtained from ordered molecular motion, the amount of entropy is also a measure of the molecular disorder, or randomness, of a system.

>>10815859
The fact that you don't even know where to start indicates you're an ignorant moron who should probably educate himself before setting off to disprove anything.
Your opinions are entirely unqualified at this point so you're speaking with exactly the same authority as a drunken hobo ranting gibberish.

>>10815895
>Relativity
>Pseudoscience
Goddamnit Ken Wheeler you faggot read a book.

>>10816862
>because never in a million years, no matter how many wikipedia articles or khanacademy videos, will you ever genuinely understand these topics without the push of formal education.
Why are you shilling so hard for the cucked university system where 99% of the focus is on grades and passing tests, not understanding the content? Someone can easily absolutely get a good understanding through reading textbooks, reading research papers, etc
>>10816846
>>10816864
based
>>10816985
>The fact that you don't even know where to start indicates you're an ignorant moron who should probably educate himself before setting off to disprove anything.
Okay but I didn't ask why I should educate myself, I asked why I should get a degree.
>Your opinions are entirely unqualified at this point so you're speaking with exactly the same authority as a drunken hobo ranting gibberish.
Okay but that's beside the point of why I should get a degree

>>10815847
It's called refrigeration

>>10815847
Well, first of all you are going to have to find some emotionally vunerable adolescent girls . . .

>>10817045
>Okay but I didn't ask why I should educate myself, I asked why I should get a degree.
Because you're just going to ignore everything that doesn't validate your preconceptions.
It is also really easy to magnify your blind spots without realizing it when left to your own devices.
You can complain about the university system, there are plenty of valid concerns im not trying to dismiss, but surely you can see that theres some value in a formalized well rounded education.
Not to mention a built in network of peers and people distinguished in the field to point out obvious errors in your methodology and suggest alternatives. Having a degree will also help distinguish you from some crackpot tinfoil hat retard making youtube videos.

>>10817086
>Because you're just going to ignore everything that doesn't validate your preconceptions.
I agree that it would be a problem if I were to do this.
>It is also really easy to magnify your blind spots without realizing it when left to your own devices.
Not if (especially in the beginning when studying the more basic stuff) I follow the general outline of what is typically taught, i.e. reading through full textbooks.
>surely you can see that theres some value in a formalized well rounded education.
Sure, but 'some value' does not mean that it is imperative or the only way. The same can be said about learning outside of the university system: As with studying in university, there are benefits and detriments. Either path is viable, and which path is preferable will vary from person to person.
>Not to mention a built in network of peers and people distinguished in the field to point out obvious errors in your methodology and suggest alternatives
I completely agree with this, but not going to school doesn't mean it will be impossible to have access to this, it just means that this specific necessary factor will likely be a bit more difficult.
>Having a degree will also help distinguish you from some crackpot tinfoil hat retard making youtube videos.
Absolutely, but again, there are benefits and detriments to both paths. The fact that the university path has some benefits and the non-university path has some detriments does not mean that going the university path is imperative. Not to mention a lot of people with degrees are crackpots too.

>>10817118
Sure OP just keep reading random science Wikipedia pages and popsi magazines and I'm sure you'll find a way to reverse entropy at some point. I hear the black dude obsessed with creating a time machine to bring back his dead father because he saw that movie is really making progress. Oh wait, he isn't, and he's an actual physicist

>>10815847
You need to sell your soul to Maxwell's devil.

>>10817144
Wai who dat

>>10815847
You're gonna fail, but I sincerly hope you don't. I like people who have this kind of mindset. Or, I'm pretty sure most people with this mindset are repulsive, but my conception of them is a pleasant and motivating one.

>>10815847
>How should I start working on this?
I think first you need to stop and from there move towards the beginning.

>>10815847
Im gonna ignore that this is literally impossible

OP if you actually want to be a part of doing a big thing in science, you wont get around a degree.
I know you think thats stupid and if you are a burger its gonna be a financial burden for most of your life, BUT these days science is done at universitys and in large research groups that have funding and a collection of smart people, not by individuals reading textbooks on their own.

If you want you can listen to these people who never heard a thermodynamics lecture or try to understand what thermodynamics is from books and try to reverse entropy, but good luck with that. While you're on it pls build a perpetuum mobile and solve this whole energy thing.

>>10815847

Atoms or particles fill the bill, don't they?

>>10817500
Neutron decay.

OP, You're trying to invent a perpetual motion machine.
Good luck.

>>10817118
>I agree that it would be a problem if I were to do this.
You're already doing it by assuming studying is pointless.