/sci/ - Science & Math

Replacement birth rate is about 2.1 children per woman and traditionally white countries and/or the whites in them have been below that for a while despite sustained total population growth.
So yeah the trend is of replacement.

since when is natural selection bad?

>>10804881
It's the natural course of things

>>10804881
For the best really, global warming will make melanin production a valuable genetic commodity.

>>10804923
its because of feminism and women's liberation. both of those things decrease birth rate

>>10804941
Exactly, the natural course of things.

>>10804945
How is feminism the "natural course of things"?

>>10804956
Because it is happening to a species in their natural habitat.

>>10804972
So what do you think the world will look like once this shift in demographics happens?

>>10804987
Why do you care what it "looks like"?

Who cares? Genetic engineering and cybernetics will make race bullshit look like a tea party. We’ll be lorded over by physical godlings

>>10805014
Don't care. im just curious

>>10805019
I dont see that technology being a thing in our lifetimes

>>10804881
in the same way as neanderthals.
cuck genes

>>10805033
The “extinction of white people” isn’t a thing in our lifetimes either, especially obvious if you’re white. European caucasoid phenotypes will persist to at least 2200

>>10804881
white populations naturally balance with the environments carrying capacity, forming equilibrium with the land and resources available. Thats why western europe populations plateaued, and the US.

Unfortunately the lesser races lack such generational self awareness and will recklessly breed out of control without consideration for anything.

I speculate that being adapted to the northern latitudes, whites had to develop careful breeding awareness to keep the tribe in balance with the limited resources of those lands.

>>10805052
>white populations naturally balance with the environments carrying capacity, forming equilibrium with the land and resources available. Thats why western europe populations plateaued, and the US.

They plateaued due to development.

>Unfortunately the lesser races lack such generational self awareness and will recklessly breed out of control without consideration for anything.

They will also plateau due to development. They’re not developed enough for birthrates to decline that much, yet. Your retarded racist explanation is just wrong.

>>10805057
the fact that the lesser races breed out of control without care of concern for the future lives of their children or their tribe is strong evidence against your hypothesis. The same fact is also why the lesser races further suppress white populations in those territories where overlap occurs. The lesser races force their reckless spawn upon the population, and the whites, being aware of the impacts, instinctively self suppress their own reproductive activity so as not further destabilize the resource equilibrium.

>>10805070
>the fact that the lesser races breed out of control without care of concern for the future lives of their children or their tribe is strong evidence against your hypothesis.

Prove they do. Less developed countries have higher birthrates, and their birthrates decline as they develop. In fact, go on the World Bank website and show me ONE country with an increasing birthrate since the 60’s.

>>10805070
>the fact that the lesser races
Stopped there, lesser races don't exist.

>>10805078
>Prove they do.
mexico city
>>10805084
>lesser races don't exist
history, statistics, and genetics would seem to suggest otherwise.

>>10805094
>mexico city

Mexico’s birthrate is at almost exactly replacement level.

>>10805078
Your whole answer implies that if there is such a thing as a lesser race (read: by default be less developed) they will outbreed.

>>10805099
>Mexico’s
i said mexico city
they breed like rats in those shanty towns with no concern for the fact that they are screwing over everyone around them and their own children.

>>10805094
>history, statistics, and genetics would seem to suggest otherwise.
Then I'm sure you could provide some history statistics and genetics that actually do so.

>>10804881
>>>/pol/

>>10804905
Not even Neanderthals were a different species.

>>10804881
it’s called natural selection, now fuck off back to /pol/

>>10805094
Not even Neanderthals were a different race or species.

>>10805117
If this is the future we must endure I for one would choose death by smothering in dat ass.

>>10805107
>(read: by default be less developed)

Hunter gatherers in Mozambique twenty thousand years ago aren’t any more or less developed than hunter gatherers in Poland at the same time.

>>10805112
>history
whites enslaved lesser races
>statistics
whites are responsible for more technological innovations and for developing more nations with higher standards of living than any other race
>genetics
archaic introgression
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg24031992-600-traces-of-mystery-ancient-humans-found-lurking-in-our-genomes/

>>10804881

>Over 800 million white people
>Trending towards extinction

Why are you motherfuckers so god damn retarded? Trends towards extinction requires a population less than a million. These are the populations/ races that qualifies for such a trait.

Khoisan - 400k
Aboriginal Australians - 798k

Everyone else including Whites are safe from extinction trends. Stop listening to /pol/yards.

>>10805111
>i said mexico city

Why? Do you have any evidence that birthrates there are higher than the rest of Mexico? Why should we attribute that to them being “””lesser races””” and not a dense urban center+poverty?

>they breed like rats in those shanty towns with no concern for the fact that they are screwing over everyone around them and their own children.

Prove it.

>>10804881
There's a billion Europeans including diaspora, and another half a billion Arabs/Iranians/Turks (depending if yiu consider them 'white'.
The idea that any major race is going to become extinct without the largest genocide the world has ever seen is pretty laughable. Remember Britain's population was like 2 million 500 years ago, while India and China alone were over half the world's population in Roman times.
Australian Aboriginals or Siberians on the other hand? Probably.

>>10805127
this is an endangered species
rarest phenotype on earth

>>10805124
>whites enslaved lesser races
Sounds like a pretty shitty thing to do.
>whites are responsible
Yeah they did get a lot of free time to think about math and science with all that work they didn't have to because they had slaves.
>archaic introgression
not actually evidence of lesser races

>>10805121
Cute.
Lets just say that if there is one population pool whom's genetics makes it less apt to develop their society, it seems that current data would suggest that this group woulf breed more rapidly would they not? After all they live in a less developed area.

>>10805143
I hope she bares black babies

>>10805143
I’m 100% sure there’s less Khoisan than gingers

>>10805147
moral relativism about slavery doesnt divert from the thrust of the point which was its demonstration of racial superiority

white nations which did not participate in slavery also displayed the same high levels of development and technological advancement, statistically well beyond those of lesser races

archaic introgression, like the genetic evidence in the article summarizes, is direct evidence that after whites split from africans, the africans were literally breeding with monkeys and it corrupted their genetics.

>>10805150
No, actually. Development INCREASES birthrates when referring to pre-modern development. Agriculture caused a practical explosion.

>>10805165
>the africans were literally breeding with monkeys and it corrupted their genetics
for anyone that’s wondering why this board has been going to shit, this is the type of poster that’s been increasingly frequenting it

>>10805165
>archaic introgression, like the genetic evidence in the article summarizes, is direct evidence that after whites split from africans, the africans were literally breeding with monkeys and it corrupted their genetics.

Wrong, dumb fucking moron. It claims that they interbred with another HOMININ, and so did everyone else. EVERY sapiens population contains admixture from other species of human.

>>10805165
Technological superiority is not racial superiority.

Technological superiority is self reinforcing.

You either can't read or your racism blinds you from being able to take in new information.

why are you posting like this

>>10805156
>Khoisan
literally look like any other black person

red hair with blue eyes is an actual phenotype distinction. fun fact, red heads make their own vitamin D when they dont get enough sunlight.

>>10805177
its called archaic introgression and the genetic mapping proved it.

>>10805185
>look at me use words I can't understand to describe my beliefs
Ok, retard.

>>10805178
>interbred with another HOMININ
a more primitive hominin (reads as monkey), thats where the name "archaic introgression" comes from, and why its called that.

>>10805182
>literally look like any other black person

They don’t look like Bantu at all to me. Never seen a Bantu with epicanthic folds in my life. Must be your “shithead racist” goggles.

>red hair with blue eyes is an actual phenotype distinction

So is Khoisan or “capoid”. Even the fucking “race scientists” of the past knew this.

>>10805190
>(reads as monkey)
But it doesn't.

>>10805185

>>10805190
>a more primitive hominin (reads as monkey)

Okay you’re going to have to obtain even the vaguest biological knowledge before you start shitposting on the science board. Humans, chimpanzees, bonobos, gorillas, and orangutans are apes. Monkeys are monkeys. Nothing is more “primitive” than anything else, only more basal.

>>10805192
sure, the two barely differentiated kinds of black people are distinct enough to care.
>>10805195
pic is a hominid (lucy). it may not be a "monkey" but you do realize it is much further removed from the modern genetic lineage?

>>10805208
Hominids and hominins aren’t even the same thing Jesus Christ man.

You are aware the only proposed candidates are heidelbergensis and just older sapiens, and that there’s slim evidence the admixture exists at all, right? Heidelbergensis is difficult to even differentiate from sapiens.

>>10805179
>Technological superiority is not racial superiority.
>Technological superiority is self reinforcing.

you wanted a statistical proof of white racial superiority, I cited technological development and societal standards of living on the aggregate as the evidence. Cry all you want, I demonstrated the point.

>>10805218
lucy is a hominin, when I said hominid that was a typo

>>10805223
She’s a member of both clades as are we.

>>10805227
the point, which seems to have been lost, was that after the white lineage split from the african lineage, the african lineage was polluted by archaic introgression with hominins on the african continent.

>>10805208
>it may not be a "monkey"
>Thinking you can use the words "archaic introgression" and in the same sentence misuse "monkey".
You are a retard.

>>10805234
Using loaded terms like “polluted” is why you’re unable to seriously discuss the subject. This is long after sapiens that left Africa were “””polluted””” by Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA.

>>10805234
SO WAS THE EUROPEAN LINEAGE YOU FUCKING MORON.

>>10805220
>you wanted a statistical proof
>I cited technological development and societal standards of living on the aggregate as the evidence
So you gave me something I didn't ask for that doesn't prove your point.

>>10805241
>>10805242
funny how the lineage that left the continent managed to do so much better by every objective measure, than the ones which didnt.

>>10805246
cry harded, maybe stick your fingers in your ears to try and block out all those cold hard truths

>>10805248
Wow, it's almost like you are sentient.

>>10805152
>I hope she bares black babies
you would want to kill off whites... you always do.

>>10804905
>>10804923
This is how I feel about Jews in death camps, lolz.

>>10805275
>red hair
>tanned skin
>imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7oD_oX-Gio

>>10805285
and then one day for no reason what so ever, the German people elected Hitler into power.

>>10805275
Don’t give a shit about phenotypes. They’re just certain appearances.

>>10805290
They actually didn’t.

wont matter. in a long run, all other races are going to become white anyway. Either by sexual selection or genetic engineering. Everyone likes light skin.

>>10804937
Warmer earth doesn't mean more solar radiation

>>10805290
>being so much of a neo nazi you don't even know how the german government functioned before Hitler
So do you guys like ... jerk it to his mustache?

>>10805316
I don’t, and a nonzero amount of other people don’t either.

>>10805318
I was mostly joking but it does mean less clouds.

>>10805314
>>10805320
when the president died Hitler was next in line, its not too dissimilar to the vice president in the united states. well its actually different, but you get the idea. Its not like the national socialist party wasnt on the rise, it narrowly lost the general election and its popularity was surging.
>>10805312
>i dont care about rare white racial characteristics
well of course you dont. you want to literally kill off all white people. I wouldnt expect you to care about preserving the most rare variant of human on earth.

>>10805323
ironically red heads make their own vitamin D and dont need melanin. they are genetically superior in environments with very low exposure to sunshine.

>>10805275
>you would want to kill off whites... you always do
all I want is white women to birth black children from the seed of black men

>>10805357
its called breeding up. literally the number 1 fantasy of all minority men is to make it with pretty white women. Its normal to want to get with a partner who is better than you, it would make your kids better than if you stayed in your race.

>>10805369
>Its normal to want to get with a partner who is better than you, it would make your kids better than if you stayed in your race.
Is that why I (as a white man) want an asian waifu?

>>10805329
>it narrowly lost the general election
Hence why you would say he wasn't elected.

>>10805329
>well of course you dont. you want to literally kill off all white people

Nope. Just don’t care about phenotypes. Don’t buy your race shit

>>10805329
>it narrowly lost
didn't they loose by like 20%

>>10805372
if you dont know about the Ainu and their legacy in Japanese culture (white face, samurai) then you should look into it. What you're attracted to are the descendants of early Aryan Migrations into northern Asia who still have high percentage of that lineage. Genghis khan had red hair. The difference is high denisovan admixture. I mean, its degenerate as hell if you as me but thats just my opinion.

>>10804881
>white race
No such thing you mutt

>>10804881
Idiocracy

>>10805384
>>10805390
he was second most popular when the most popular died. by all logical recourse that made him the legitimate president in that circumstance.
>>10805386
>i dont care about phenotypes
yeah and I dont see race either. see, I can bullshit too.

>>10805334
I don't know who you think you are replying to but you don't know what ironically means.

>>10805396
>No such thing you mutt
Global genetic clustering studies show otherwise.

>>10805401
>he was second most popular when the most popular died
Not elected, your fuhrer was a looser incel with a riding crop fetish.

>>10805406
By that logic there are like 10 white races.

>>10805407
wtf retard, he held elected office and was the next in line according to their democratic process.

>>10805412
If Donald trump died you wouldn't say Pence was elected president. That's a dumb construction.

>>10805409
yeah and more than 10 times as many "races" of black people. race is a spectrum which depends on how much of which strains you happen to have in your code.

>>10805417
yeah you would, dumbass. you vote for both when you vote, with the knowledge of the succession structure.

>>10805418
So then there isn't a white race.

>>10805419
Ok, retard. Whatever helps you sleep at night with your Himmler dakimakura.

>>10805420
>So then there isn't a white race.
race is a construction which is useful for characterizing different strains of human lineage. There is a white race, in the sense that you can broadly categorize a spectrum into which falls strains meeting general characteristics sharing a common lineage.

also get fucked, go tell black and proud cucks that their race is fake.

>>10805433
So being black is fake but being white is real, seems kinda like you are just trying to be an asshole.

>>10805450
>So being black is fake but being white is real,
said no one ever

>>10805457
>also get fucked, go tell black and proud cucks that their race is fake
You did.

>>10805409
>By that logic there are like 10 white races.
There is only one rather broad cluster corresponding to white race, you moron.

But yes, human races are kinda overlapping and continuous. Yet they are also real and objectively exist

>inb4 continuum fallacy

>>10805462
whew lad, pretending to be that retarded? you tried baiting me with this >>10805420 to which i gave you the rebuttal here >>10805433 ending with telling you to take your premise to the black community and see how much they would like it if you told them their race is a figment of their imaginations.

>>10805143
>>10805329
>we must protect the most rare variant of human on earth
Aww shucks, thanks anon.

I hope I can find a redheaded gf, or at least a heterozygous carrier, just so that I can guarantee the existence of my sun-fragile people for the next generation.

I should donate sperm.

>>10805476
I dunno, you seem like you really just want to tell blacks to go fuck themselves by any means necessary.

>>10805501
Hitler didnt hate other races, he just wanted them to be proud and strong and to live together in their own countries. Did you know America founded the country of Liberia after abolishing slavery, and gave anyone who wanted it free transport there? Just a little trivia.

>>10805528
>Hitler didnt hate other races, he just wanted them to be proud and strong and to live together in their own countries

>>10804937
Humans will expand further north. Scandinava, siberia, northern Canada, alaska will get more populous

>>10805528
Generalplan Ost rings a bell? Hitler was a moron who actually wanted to exterminate other races even in their native habitat in order to get his lebensraum. And I say it as someone in favro of white ethnostate. If Hitler merely stayed in Germany and only sent Jews to Madagascar and Slavs to the east, he would not end up like he did.

>this thread
>what is homeostasis
even Turkey is below replacement.
Literally only shitskins and sandniggers breed like rabbits

>>10805400
source
>/pol/

>>10804905
Caucasians have been the main source of advancement for 250 years, it will lead to a vacuum

>>10805710
I'm indian and my family is below replacement. Only rednecks breed above replacement

>>10805995
And we will fill that vacuum. We created the Indus valley civilization. We had the largest army in 1700. We will inherit the earth. India will become a superpower. Whites will be our servants

>>10806002
>we
What caste are you referring to? The majority of indians are extremely stupid and nepotistic.

>>10804881
No. Whites are due for a fertility rebound in a few generations, due to natural selection weeding out the people who aren't reproducing.

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/where-do-babies-come-from/
http://www.unz.com/akarlin/breeders-revenge/

>>10806022
>live in southeast idaho
Feels good man

>>10804905
Cockroaches can outbreed humans but that doesn't mean they're superior

>>10805057
>They’re not developed enough for birthrates to decline that much
>lack such generational self awareness and will recklessly breed out of control
same difference

>>10805147
>Yeah they did get a lot of free time to think about math and science with all that work they didn't have to because they had slaves.
Oh, so how come Africans didn't think about math and science during all the free time they had thanks to THEIR slaves?

>>10806022
The future of 40k is possible where everyone is a religious fanatic because those are the only ones who reproduce.

>>10806000
yeah but the rest of your country shits out 8 per head, dumbass

Lets's give an advantage to one race, it has three genes for intelligence, while the other one has only two.

AAAbb/AAAbb is the "purebred" first race. (capital leters signify advantageous genes)
aaaBB/aaaBB is the "purebred" second race.

Their first generation offspring is all AAAbb/aaaBB

The second generation (grand children) with two AAAbb/aaaBB parents get 50% chance PER GENE:

aaabb/aaabb (stupid)
aaabB
aaaBb
aaaBB
aaAbb
aaAbB
...

AAAbb
AAAbB
AAABb
AAABB/AAABB (genius not seen before the mixing)

All the combinations like AaAbB/aaABb can occur, too many to list them all.

But this is how it works. There may be bad combinations, but there will be combinations better than anything before.

>>10804881
There's no such thing as "the white race", so no.

>>10805401
>yeah and I dont see race either. see, I can bullshit too.

You’re right, I actually find black women the most attractive. The rest can go.

>>10805464
>Objectively exist

Nope. They’re literally made up by computers.

>>10806135
India’s birthrate is only 2.33. You’re retarded

>>10806022
>Ever citing Unz

You dumb /pol/tards love that website.

>>10806187
It's good though. It means they're not whining about low birthrates. Technically there's no need to worry since all anti-natalist atheists are going extinct. The future is religious fanatics

>>10804881
Who cares, one way or an other.

>>10804905
>natural
No the face you cannot protest the ludicrous amounts of africans and arabs being imported into Europe shows this is forced and planned.

>>10806257

>>10806259
If this was natural selection it would be happening naturally not forced. Just 200 years ago there were barely any blacks or arabs in Europe showing this isnt natural in any manner.

>>10805120
A man of culture.

>>10806261
Are you saying it's not natural to seek a better life?

>>10806272
Yes, africans ignored by whitey dont even think about immigrating to an alien land north of them its only when whites go to their nations and go "lol Europe is a paradise that will make your lives better" is when they suddenly decide their lives are shit and need to be better.

>>10806283
So what you are saying is that whites are unnatural.