/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10736740
Whoever does the best deserves the spot.

>>10736740
I thought women have been doing better academically for a couple of decades now?

Nothing wrong with this. Life sciences were always a female thing.

>>10736740
>asian outperform blacks by a full 20 percentile points when the governing body stops rigging SAT GRE LSAT and MCAT scores
Oh no no no no

>>10736740
what rigging was in place?

>>10736814
I guess we need more affirmative action till the SAT is finally fair.

>>10736814
If you knew any blacks or asians you would know the difference is almost entirely cultural at least on a brainlet tier exam like the SAT you'd have to have like 70IQ to not get a near perfect SAT if you actually put the work in.

>>10737092
>blacks tend to have <70 IQ or be lazy

>>10737102
>Citing African data that’s old and often literally made up

>>10736821
Women's scores were getting adjusted because many of them after actually getting their MD would leave the profession after a few years and get married and have kids instead. It was done because men are obviously far less likely to do such a thing.

Not taking a side, just stating the reason. What do you guys think should be done in such a situation?

>>10737102
Asian success in lower level exams is almost entirely due to the fact they have two parents that will beat the shit out of them if they don't achieve perfect scores.

>>10736740

OH NO NO NO what?
If they are better why does that bother anyone.
People only seem to complain about unfair "positive discrimination" policies.
Was anyone honestly claiming men are better at health sciences?

Fixed:
Women score closer to men after Japan medical school stops making exams the same difficulty for all genders.

Other articles:
Native Alaskan woman scores 1600 in SAT after adding 590 points due to being an URM. Tribe leader says "big millerock to tribe, we will eat her organs with great pride"

>>10737170
Cope

>>10737092
>calls the SAT a "brainlet exam"
>unironically fails to understand what the SAT score distribution is based on
Hello mr. 70IQ.

>>10737170
Posts like this is why we need affirmative action

>>10736749
Best at work or test?

>>10736740
>McCurry

>>10737112
you didn't answer the question

>>10737320
But it's a good reason to have rigging.
Medical college spots are very important for the country. Girls that become doctors only to become housewives are playing with the countries future

>>10737222
It's based on the millions of fucking idiots who didn't study at all because they're going to be blue collar retards/ humanities majors at a mediocre uni. There's no remotely challenging material on the entire test so as long as you put in a tiny amount of work even a 90 IQ brainlet can score 90+ percentile.

>>10736754
>medicine is a life science

>>10737335
>Doesn't answer the question
>Pretends not to take sides
>Someone tells you that you didn't answer the question
>Continue to ignore the question and answer a completely unrelated question obviously now supporting a side
Based.

>>10737335
This.

Just as we need socialized medical coverage which guarantees everyone a doctor's attention, we need socialized medical training which maximizes the supply of available doctors. Just as we need to tax some people to ensure fairness for others, so too must we work to keep women out of the profession, to ensure universal coverage for all and not just for the rich.

>>10737335
People still become housewives in Japan? I thought that was just in doujins

>>10737670
A girl that studies medicine is usually going to marry sky high up so she can afford to stay at home since her husband is rich.

>>10737628
I can't believe you said so many correct things.

>>10737628
Either we make medical school easier or we increase the cost of medicine to increase doctor pay to incentivize more people becoming doctors. Both options contradict your goal, you dumb pinko. You can't just legislate high quality, free healthcare into existence.

>>10737693
Or just build more medical schools

>>10736740
do we really need general practitioners still - they are the most annoying human beings on earth. just gimmie an diagnostic ai and send the prescription to my house.

>>10737684
This really isn't still a thing in the US why is japan so behind the times?

>>10737743
Nobody cares about a scarcity of doctors in the US that's why it's not a thing. There's no policies about the sustainable future of the country like Japan.

>>10736740
This is only the case in Asian countries, where everyone is encouraged to work hard. The average American woman has had her mind poisoned to make her lack curiosity and work ethic. This is why most grad student women are foreigners.

>>10736754
>medicine is a science

I welcome our female overlords. I just want to be a NEET anyway. Women are stupid for wanting to work.

>>10738439
I want a female to take care of me

>>10738283
It's applied biology

>>10737159
>People only seem to complain about unfair "positive discrimination" policies.

Those are always such minor things to bitch about.

>>10736740
>The Guardian
Healthcare (and medical field in general) ALWAYS had more females in the field than men. Same thing with people working in educational system. When feminists talk about "muh patriarchy", those two fields are usually ignored for some reason, but I digress. Point being - it's a shitty '/pol/' tier article. Fuck "The Guardian", OP's a faggot.
MODS!!!

>>10737497
It's a resource check. If you can afford basic tutoring, access to SAT stud materials and a decent school you will do well.

>>10738856
Stop bitching like a brat.

>>10738861
>bitching
???

Stop sperging.

>>10738439
>Women are stupid for wanting to work
Women won't work blue collar jobs which are the most physically exhausting, they go to college and pursue mentally challenging jobs. If you have been a NEET before you would know that staying at home doing nothing atrophies your brain, makes you irritable and depressed. Doing nothing is great the first 2 months or so but then not so much. Not to mention that if you had a wife who supported you financially to a hundred percent you would not have much freedom. Want to hang out with your friends? You don't have money do to so, gotta ask wife for permission and if she says "no" you're fucked. She would also nag you endlessly if you didn't do the house chores which are pretty physically taxing specially if you have kids. So yeah, staying at home is actually not that great, it's no wonder a lot of women want to keep themselves mentally active and financially independent with a real job now (sadly this is not too great when it comes to having children to sustain the population.)

>>10736754
Even nursing wasn't a female thing originally.

>>10737628

>worst medical doctors I met where jews or females
Anyway, most, if nit all eastern "medicine" is decadent,
our elite will get karma for endorsing it once they get some cancer or autistic kid
eastern medical doctors will never cure these ones, though the cure is simple
But muh
>he has no diploma or is a chink
Enjoy your cancer

>>10736740
Women ARE naturally more caring than men.
Sure, plenty of male doctors added to the research of medical science, but it was the likes of Florence Nightingale who actually improved the care the patients were getting.
Women have better social intelligence than men, that's been known for a long time.

>>10736740
>>10739244
Also, women in scrubs are fucking sexy.
I hate getting a male nurse, or male doctor when I go to hospital, but female doctors and nurses, especially in their 20s and 30s, yes please!

>>10737102
Average African-American IQ is 85, and that's from bullshit Richard Lynn who fudged the data:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations#Criticism_of_data_sets
Like these predictions using data from the Nation Center for Educational Statistics:
>https://pumpkinperson.com/2017/05/29/better-race-and-iq-data/
Which put the African-American average IQ at nearer 90, which isn't even a SD away from the "White average" of 100.

>>10739261
/pol/tards btfo

>>10739181
my sentements exactly

>arguing about the headline of a guardian article
who’s the real brainlet?

>>10738873
Imagine having a wife that says no when you say you wanna watch anime

>>10739261
ive said this before. tho if i recall correctly lynn usually babbles about g-loading or some shit - how the gap increases as the g-load increases. im not sure the ramifications of that

>>10739261
That means African Americans are smarter than the Portuguese

>>10739291
Go to /pol/ and inform all Portuguese posters.

>>10738839
>biology is science

>>10739261
>https://pumpkinperson.com/2017/05/29/better-race-and-iq-data
it says 87 combined a little below a standard deviation

>>10739304
Verbal intelligence is related more to g-factor.

>>10739292
I think they are well aware that they are arab rape babies

>>10739304
>>10739307
Forgot picture.

>>10739307
>something that they didnt even test for is the best for g-factor
the test had reading and math there are verbal tests but saying a reading test is a verbal test is far fetched

>>10739317
Eh, it's still nearer the 90 mark than the below 70 mark.
And, if memory serves, the SD on WAIS (the most common IQ test) is 15.

>>10739337
yeah blacks arent retarded I agree

>>10739344
And, anecdotally, I have some very smart friends who are Afro.

>>10739244
>Women ARE naturally more caring than men.

Not really. Also what is defined as caring is vague.

the past of healthcare is female, so is the present. Healthcare, like education, has always been the domain of women.

who the fuck are you OP?

>>10739350
They do have a higher social intelligence than men, which would make them better at dealing with people, and people happen to be the preserve of the healthcare system.

>>10737697
That assumes capacity is the bottleneck and that, with the same standards as existing schools, there would be a significant increase in the number of med students. Otherwise that is the same as lowering standards.

>>10737743
There is no such thing as "behind the times." The fact you think something about the culture in the past is worse than how it is now doesn't mean it has anything to do with current year.

haha women do better on these tests, because these tests measure your ability to answer in a way that the examiner expects you to

they are simply more agreeable

At my med school gender ratio is probably 75% females 25% males. Still everyone got here mostly by merit, so it's fair I guess

>women beat men at a thing
>YOU GO GIRL

>blacks run faster than whites
>YEUH GET'EM SON!

>White men do better at STEM fields than women
>THIS IS MUHSOGGYKNEE

>Whites score higher on IQ test than blacks
>WAAAH RACISM, MUH FLYNN EFFECT, MUH CULTURE!!!!1

>>10739403
>White men do better at STEM fields than women
Not just Europid male:
>https://www.scimagojr.com/countryrank.php?order=h&ord=desc
East Asian and Vedic Aryans too.

>>10739410

you're missing the point. when white men beat another group at something they are BAD. when another group of non-white men beat the bad white men they are GOOD.

>>10739415

kinda worded that poorly but the idea is :

>white man bad
>everyone but white man good

fee fi fo thumb

>>10739415
Is it okay to find high caste Indian women, like Brahmin and Kshatriya, attractive? I mean, they are of Iranian admixture!?

>>10739421

lol...my fiance is a north indian with persian admixture...according to gedmatch at least.

>>10739424
Bruh, nice, very nice. That's some kino there.

>>10739403
It's getting genocide-tier when mainstream news outlets are running articled about "African-Americans shown to naturally more athletic" citing a stusy conducted on literally 8 people testing like knee flexion once...

On the other hand, literally anything that indicates anything other than [perceived oppressed group] being superior is viciously attacked by these papers.

Its getting harder and harder to not believe in some kind of conspiracy.

I dont care about generalized statistics about races or sexes. I dont care if statistics show my group is more likely to be X or less predisposed to succeed in Y. I just dont want the constant fucking propaganda that people just arent aware of.

>>10739415
If the results show the """wrong answer""" then the testing system is white surpemacist and must be changed.

>>10739426

shame were on /sci/ otherwise id post our video. tee hee.

>>10739360
That's vague as fuck though.

>>10739421
Fuck brahmins and Kshatriya. Jatt master race.

>>10739351
To be fair the higher levels are more male dominated or had equal ratios due to how work and social culture used to be

>>10739433
>I prefer peasants
Wat

>>10739429
It is indeed a shame.

>>10739435
Jatt girls have a strong build, a savvy tongue, big boobs and they're fiercely loyal too.

>>10739437

HERE WE GO

FUCK JANNIES

>>10739442
Based, very based. Might I suggest starting a thread, perhaps on the Yellower boards?

>>10739439
Imagine not wanting to go balls deep in a nirvana, or up to the hilt in a royal sheath. What's wrong with you?!

>>10739424
How many goats did she cost?

>>10737159
It makes people uncomfortable because a lot of feminist types are legitimate man hating female supremacists who have been given far too much power and control over public mainstream discourse.

>>10737238
Posts like these are why we should reject affirmative action.

>>10737112
You also have to remember that Japanese doctors don't make American doctor money. So the incentive to keep practicing vs raising a family isn't nearly as high. They work more hours for what's ultimately a lower salary, so you already have to be the sort of person who's in it for its own sake.
It was an honest attempt to limit the number of people who were just in it for the prestige, although totally unfair to the ones who weren't.

>>10736740
>The guardian
Ahahahahhahahhaahhahhhahhahhahhhahaahahhahahahahahahhahahhahahhah

>>10737607
>he assumes because someone responded to his post that it's the same person he quoted
God, newfags are fucking naive and retarded.

>>10739814
Yes, exactly. Amerilards will immediately jump to insane conclusions because they think every country in the world runs just like them.

>>10737305
Yes

>>10736740
if thats the case, then rigging the exams was a form of affirmative action. So removing the penalty on women was sexist and non-egalitarian.

>>10736740
Selection bias. It is common knowledge that in asian families boys are expected to go to STEM fields and girls go to life sciences. So in medicine it's the best females competing with the subset of males that didn't go to stem.

>>10740030
>It is common knowledge that in asian families boys are expected to go to STEM fields and girls go to life sciences.
not really. Parents want both to be doctors. Girls have more discipline so they get to pass the entrance exams while boys stay incel and cry

>>10740018
Japan makes decisions based on the future.
Woman doctors are known to marry rich men settle down and have kids essentially wasting their degree and the governments money. Having less women in medicine means more doctors for the country.
Since women work as much as men and nobody is having kids anymore in japan, this law was obsolete so they scraped it

>>10739814
>They work more hours for what's ultimately a lower salary
>This is somehow a prestigious career in Japan
Wut

>>10739814
>It was an honest attempt to limit the number of people who were just in it for the prestige, although totally unfair to the ones who weren't.
Doctors never face unemployment. I live in a country where doctors only make 70k a year after taxes. That's low but it's good enough. And they never go unemployed. It's the most secure degree ever.

>>10740059
>either you're a multi millionaire american or it's not worth it
wew

>>10738873
Maybe your brain atrophies when you're a NEET, but I enjoyed a few years of NEETdom. It was great, I became extremely proficient with my guitar, being able to play Bach, read a lot of shit online, just chill, go walking late at night during weekdays, no stress, no worries. Now that I'm forced to work and attend university to survive, I have no time for such luxuries and I hate being alive every minute. Shut the fuck up, I'd love to be a stay at home mom.

>>10736740
>Juntendo University in Tokyo said that of the 1,679 women who took its medical school entrance exam earlier this year, 139, or 8.28%, had passed. The pass rate among 2,202 male candidates was 7.72%.
That's actually pretty significant. I wonder if there are any other >1% achievement gaps out there.
(Also note how they give the raw number for women but leave the calculation for men up to you. Journalistic bias can be subtle.)

>>10741052
Because 7.72% in relation to 2202 is more than the 8.28% in relation to 1679 and brainlets will get confused.

>>10739869
>haha those foolish Americans thinking other countries are as productive as America
>why don't they know we earn peasant wages haha dumb Americans

>>10739862
That was my first and only post ITT faggot.
You're trying too hard with the newfag shit, newfag.

>>10741073
Having a wealth cap on doctors is ethical.
You should be allowed to level all the way to 99999999, going to level 100 is enough mate. I dunno why you think capitalism should be like a broken game with no balance.

>>10741416
>its not that I want more. I just want others to have less.
Peak commie seething jealousy on full display.

>>10736740
>Future
Hi /pol/. It sounds like you've taken after /biz/ again and ignored /his/. Please proceed to the nearest /out/, even (and especially) if a window is involved. The higher up the better.

>>10737092
Maybe there's a biological explanation why the cultures are different.

>>10739427
>Its getting harder and harder to not believe in some kind of conspiracy.
This is a level of optimism I just simply don't understand. People really want to believe that humans are inherently rational and that whenever we display irrational behaviour, it's because (((someone else))) is pulling the strings. Why can't it be that humans are naturally dumb and tribalistic and that we really have to work hard to try and fight this off.

>>10736740
>Rigging tests
I see the nuclear fallout has significantly affected the mental development of japs

>>10739385
>women are better at Asian medical tests because women are mindreaders
Oh BOYYYYY we're reaching max autism levels

>>10736740
I don’t see the problem. People who are best should get the places. I thought you guys were against positive discrimination?

>>10741468
Play stupid games win stupid prizes

>>10737335
Nothing justifies lying and cheating

>>10739244
>Women ARE naturally more caring than men.
How is this relevant to medical knowledge and ability?

>>10736740
Oh nononono bros we got too cocky

>>10737238
why, dumbass?

>>10740052
Because Japanese workplaces FORCE WOMEN INTO THAT. You know how fucking sexist many business are and especially the old farts who populate upper management? Hell over there the people you think should be open minded are just as narrow-minded and bigoted as the old fuckers like my ex-boss who was gay.

>>10736740
It's .4 difference. This isn't significant all.

>>10739244
So what youre telling me is they pussified the field and slowed progress for the sake of making someone feel better instead of saving millions of potential lives. Nobody really cares though. Theres too many variables for anything to be a sure thing. We need a do over man. Fuck these people. They don't want help, they just wanna be comfortable and its killing us all.

>>10743548
>lived in japan
You deserved everything you got and more, you pervert sex tourist.

>>10737110
yeah we all know how intelligent africans are

>>10739261
>>10739267
>better-race-and-iq-data

>>10745114
It's almost like everyone has the same IQ and people just need education and motivation. In other words IQ doesn't exist

>>10737305
Whomever gives the best blowjob deserves the magic G-spot wand known as the BBC.

>>10739301
>Literally assblasted by empirical evidence
Lmao at you unemployed math nigger, keep seething