/sci/ - Science & Math

The main problem here is that you're a retard that doesn't understand how either of the technologies you're talking about actually work. You can't just combine two completely unrelated fields that are still in development and have them magically work together.

>>10734769
Why not just grow intelligence on trees in the form of apples, eat the apples, become super smart and then solve the problems?

Then we skip the whole "study AI" part and still get the profit

>>10734778
>t. drinks the Kool-Aid

>>10734796
>t. an actual intellectual

>>10734796
Why can't people just be smart? Imagine needing to upload some gay machine into you head to calculate the mass of the sun and then find the derivative of it and then multiply it by the number of countries that expelled the jews to find out that OP is gay

>>10734769
easier said than done

>>10734828
In case you haven’t noticed a lot of humans aren’t very smart. It seems that no level of public education could even make a dent in their mind, so something is fundamentally wrong with their brain

>>10734796

What if people want to be dumb? Then forcing people to eat "apples" is tantamount to brainwashing. (They'll call it" fake IQ".)

>>10734840
Lmao just read a book like nigga really hahaha

Elon is further ahead of the curve than people realize. His end game is god emperor

>>10734796
Based

>>10734796
God would smite thee

>implanting a chip into your brain

No thanks. Anyone advocating for this is a nut job.

ask a guy working very close to stuff like this anything, I'll be here for 15

>>10735013
reading output is the easy part, but what about sending input into the tissue?

How do you even figure out how to "encode" the information? Seems to me like it will require machine learning, as every person's brain will be different.

>>10734994
what's wrong anon, share your mind with Lord Pichai and Lord Zucc. unless there's something you're trying to hide??

>>10735013
is it within reach with current technology to accurately read the motor function output? as in could you have a robot body somewhat accurately copy a person's body movements just by reading the brainwaves?

>>10735019
if you can read the output and understand the connectivity structure of the related network activity then in principle you can input information to meaningfully modulate that activity.

We can already stimulate individual neurons, and large numbers at a time... though not as well as we'd like to.


>>10735029
Certainly some stereotypical motor patterns can be entrained by other muscle movements.

Brain waves certainly no... and likely never since this information is all combined, and even from a single electrode on an EEG cap you're likely recording the middle of a chain of activity.

Neural implants that record in some kind of machine learned way maybe...

but this is silly, there are pretty good results using things like gaze, and eye movements, or recruitly some part of the body that isn't doing much and recording from there to train an exoskeleton suit.


...this is retarded anyway since the cognition enhancement is the holy grail, not moving an exo suit.

heres a paper on using gaze, https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1741-2560/9/4/046016

>>10734994
it would probably have to be wireless. But then you run the risk of world domination where we all can become mind controlled zombies

>>10734769
>>> 1. Study AI and Brain-Computer interface (BCI)
we're struck here. Neural interfaces have only been shown to be long term stable in monkeys. Neural interfaces currently do not have a higher bandwidth than your own eyeballs, so it's unlikely a neural interface would help you learn faster than reading. Biology is also very hard.
>> Create an AI system that understands human language
Do you have idea how hard it is to do this? We aren't even close. This is a great example that demonstrates how we aren't even close:
http://karpathy.github.io/2012/10/22/state-of-computer-vision/
It's been 7 years and we don't have computer vision that can understand pic related.

>>10735728
I’ve seen that article, that’s because computer vision is literally just Machine Learning.

Machine learning is great. It’s not AI, in any meaningful way. It’s essentially a pretty efficient brute force for identifying objects

>>10735942
you can have computer vision without machine learning. We don't fucking have machines that can 'understand' human language.

>>10734844
>What if people want to be dumb?
You can be dumb if you want. But if everyone were dumb, no one would be able to spot and shoot down that asteroid that's coming and we'll all just die. Maybe in some distant future we'll have AI that manages all danger for us. Then and only then can EVERYONE be happily dumb. But that will likely only happen close to the end of the universe, and then that will endanger our continued existence in a way that no superintelligence will be able to manage. But then who knows. It's a lot of time until then. Maybe we'll learn to create new universes by then.

>>10734769

>AI learns everything on arXiv
>Disproves Riemann Hypothesis
>all of my data gets hacked
>???
>profit.

>>10736194
I don’t see a problem

>>10736051
>ai likely won’t happen til the end of the universe
NiBBa, you think Ray Kurzweil just talks out of his ass about 2045?? (Spoiler: yes, he does)

>>10736172
his girlfriend is womanchild and cosplayed as this

>>10734796
this is the exact sort of shit that pic related would say
>instead of difficult decisions, what if everything was just ideal instead?

>>10737803
Bro that dude is a genius. Go f yourself

>>10734796
those eden apples are pretty tasty to eat i'll admit.

They don't NEED to put chips in your brain.
They just need to know all your search history and movement patterns. That's enough to predict your life with 97% accuracy, and enough to predict social movement with 100% accuracy.
GG

>>10737821
>*simplifies theory down to nothing*
>*spreads feel good pop science with 0 content*
>* makes pseudo documentaries about unproven theories*
nuthin personelle gaijin

>>10734796
Based and zinc-pilled

>>10734769
Because Elon hasn't figured out yet that information is a resource, intelligence is the tool.
One is useless without the other to apply it.

>>10734796
But that already exists.
That's why my diet is based on smarties

>>10734796
Based and fallen angel pilled

>>10734769
pretty sure you would just have a seizure and die but ok

>>10734796

I think god said something about that anon. Are you perhaps an individual of the general snake genus?

>>10734769
>What is fuck is Elon’s problem?
me

>>10734769
>>10734769
>TFW the bhutanese passport audio was taken off memepedia and future AI wont be able to learn about it.

>>10737780
it used to be 2030

>>10734769
i wanna be a test subject for it papa elon

>>10734778
shut the fuck up we're rewritting science here.
next step crispr edit some cocaine producing bananas.

>>10734796
God damn it Satan.

>>10734769
>create nanotechnology
>drag and drop the most sophisticated software ever created into nanobot. shouldn't have any issues there.
>implant nanobots into cells of the most cell-dense organ known to man. pretty straight forward.
>why doesn't he just fuckin do it already jesus fuck it's so simple

>>10740050
hehe your mind is a Larry Davidian state of comedic goodness

>>10741191
we don't have nanotech like that.

>>10734840
You can usually see this since they're children. I remember I was a pretty playful kid when I was 5-6. I learned to read fast and learned other things through music for children. From then on it was all about fun until I was 10 and started reading my dictionary to learn as many words as I could. I think this was a problem because if I learned things this way then I was always just memorizing stuff. Yeah, by the time I was in high school my analytical and critical thinking skills in math were poor. I couldn't understand algebra when I was about 14 years old. On the other hand my other family members were taught math since they were 6-7. They learned calculus by the time they were 9 and years later by the time they were in college they succeeded in STEM. I don't know if it was the work they did or it was something fundamentally different in their brain. They did have worse socialization skills so I don't know.