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10719646 No.10719646 [Reply] [Original]

So the $30 million dollar NTP study just showed that non-ionizing radiation causes cancer at levels well below thermal.

I remember in college having it drilled into my head that "the only potential negative effects of non-ionizing radiation is heating". This was seriously a dogma that everyone had to adhere to.

What will the industry fallouts of this be? Has anyone read the study?

Here is the link to the aforementioned study: https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/results/areas/cellphones/index.html

>> No.10719663 [DELETED] 

>>10719646
wow OP really interesting thanks for the link you're also a really great guy

>> No.10719666 [DELETED] 

>>10719646
Thanks OP you're a really great and interesting guy

>> No.10719670 [DELETED] 

>>10719646
Holy shit OP this is groundbreaking stuff.

The industry trannies will be seething now

>> No.10719672 [DELETED] 

>>10719646
>UV rays will only heat your skin up
>hard gamma? watch out you might overheat anon
nice way to start a thread on a total falsehood. go suck some more cocks before you post next time.

>> No.10719675 [DELETED] 

>>10719646
Industry trannies SEETHING

Great work OP

>> No.10719676

>>10719663
>>10719666
>>10719670
>>10719672
Let's have an actual discussion on the NTP study which found cancer at levels well below thermal exposure.

>> No.10719684 [DELETED] 

>>10719646
wow OP went to college? he's such an intelligent free thinker and I'm inclined to believe anything he says

>> No.10719685 [DELETED] 

>>10719676
>>10719646
Just read the study there, the industry trannies are finished OP

>> No.10719688

Are the moderators going to clean up the spam from the juvenile posters uninterested in actual scientific discussion and/or debate?

>> No.10719692

>>10719688
I agree OP, they should really delete your spam thread considering you already have posted multiple threads on this very topic today (after repeatedly evading bans) and already have an active thread here
>>10718794
Don't forget to post some more on /g/ too while you're at it!

Kind regards,

A friend.

>> No.10719695

>For female rats, and male and female mice, it was unclear if tumors observed in the studies were associated with RFR used by cell phones.
Looks like I have nothing to worry about thanks OP

>> No.10719696

>>10719692
That thread is completely unrelated to this thread. I'm not sure where your animus is coming from, maybe take a break for today?

>> No.10719702

>>10719695
I knew /r9k/ were right

>> No.10719706

>13 replies
>4 posters

It's just 1 very butt hurt guy spamming about his love of cellphones.
Take the cellphone out of your ass and use lube next time!

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>>10719646
well how about that. what's next are they going to sell us bottles of suntan lotion with our 5g cell phones?

>> No.10719710

>>10719696
>completely unrelated
You seem to be confused OP, you see every time you make one of these threads you inevitably start posting the exact same studies and talking points, therefore you should just continue to use your other thread instead of starting another one (this pushes other active threads off the catalogue). I'm sure you'll get the hang of it soon, hope I could help champ!

>> No.10719713

>>10719709
Alumium lotion maybe

>>10719710
Maybe stick to that other thread you posted if this one bothers you so much?

>> No.10719723

>>10719713
tin foil suits to wear may be a good way to go to protect from that radiation. unless outside turns out to be like walking into a microwave oven that is.

>> No.10719724

>>10719713
>Maybe stick to that other thread you posted if this one bothers you so much?
Anon I think you're misunderstanding my intentions. My personal feelings on this thread are irrelevant, it is board culture (and also the rules depending on how strict a given mod/janitor is) to stick to one thread per topic. It may not be too late to delete this thread and continue using the other one. Hope this friendly advice helped!

Kind regards,

A friend

>> No.10719729

>>10719723
You can buy one of those mesh suits signal techies use for a couple grand. That's the solution I'm sure.

>> No.10719734

OPs lack of describing of how much evidence there is, the date of the study(before 2000), how did they spend 30 on a few rats, the actual specs of exposure REALLY makes me think he's a paranoid normie

>> No.10719735

>>10719646
Things people don't understand about RF research:
-Dose response is nonlinear, often in all dimensions. Duration of exposure, power density, frequency.
-Modulation and field polarization is important. You don't want a homogeneous field, you want animals moving around in a realistic exposure scenario. The former will tend to mask effects that would occur in real world exposures.
-There's a difference between near field and far field exposure.
-It's no longer funded in general. You have to go back to the 70's and 80's, or Soviet work, for these kinds of meticulously executed studies.

People think newer = better. For some reason however, brand new papers are too new, and newer papers and reviews that should make quite an impact, do nothing. Why is this? Many people don't actually have any intention of thinking or assessing risk for themselves. So you're stuck with the regulatory blockade, and clear indication of its corruption. In the case of WHO we have hard data suggesting they don't expose themselves to this. There was no wifi nor cell phone emissions in the WHO.

All of this makes it hard to communicate it to people. I don't know what the solution is. There's also clear censorship. I first came to 4chan ~2010, and I guess the false wild west way the internet seemed in the 00's really suckered me in, and I briefly held delusions of the internet affording rapid iteration. Now we're here and the moderators are deleting threads about one of the greatest threats our species has ever faced.

Yes, wireless initiates and promotes cancer. But it also sterilizes you, damages your DNA, and causes brain damage. As brain function continues to deteriorate, and we move towards population level irreversible infertility, it is unlikely we'll have the capacity even as individuals to solve the problems ahead.

>> No.10719742

>>10719735
>There was no wifi nor cell phone emissions in the WHO.
Interesting, is there a paper on this?

>> No.10719750

>>10719735
Fucking laughef so hard at the end

>> No.10719752

>>10719735
Hi OP, it seems like you're trying to discuss corruption in scientific establishments. As stated previously, you have already made a thread on this topic (>>10718794) and it is a better idea if you continue the discussion there instead and wait until that thread archives before making another.

Kind regards,

A friend.

>> No.10719755

>>10719735
Refer to this to learn about where we've been, how we got here, and where we really are.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/dj875cd10yb72/EMF
Imagine what will happen when they all realize what was done to them. This wasn't a big mistake, we knew. That leaves extreme incompetence or malice. I'll leave it to be determined what it is at the highest layers.

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>>10719729
in the future we will all have to go outside wearing special suits so we don't die just because we can't give up our really cool phones with fast internet.

>> No.10719761

>>10719742
It's " Hardell 2018 - World Health Organization, radiofrequency radiation and health - a hard nut to crack (Review)"

Copied from the document in the mediafire link.
WHO:
-WHO doesn't expose itself and its RF working group is industry affiliated
Hardell 2018 - World Health Organization, radiofrequency radiation and health - a hard nut to crack (Review)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5504984/
-WHO composition, affiliations over time.
https://microwavenews.com/docs/WHOWatch.pdf
https://microwavenews.com/news/case-emf-precautionary-policies

Overall the direction of WHO's position remains the same as the 1981 EHC. Citing mostly continuous wave exposure and short term studies in many sections, key data has been omitted. Effects of modulation, athermal effects, and polarization are acknowledged shortly but dismissed as non-evaluatable, despite being the most relevant for exposures of the general population. Modern data has confirmed most of the observations which began in now 50+ year old animal studies, in humans.
[m][Warsaw Symposium] 1973 - Biologic Effects and Health Hazards of Microwave Radiation
(Sponsored by WHO)
[m][WHO] 1981 - Environmental Health Criteria 16 - RADIOFREQUENCY AND MICROWAVES
[m][WHO] 1984 - Environmental Health Criteria 35 - EXTREMELY LOW FREQUENCY (ELF) FIELDS
WHO 1993 - ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH CRITERIA 137: ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS (300 HZ TO 300 GHZ)
http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc137.htm
WHO 2006 - Environmental Health Criteria 232: STATIC FIELDS
http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc232.pdf
WHO 2007 - Environmental Health Criteria 238: EXTREMELY LOW FREQUENCY FIELDS
http://www.inchem.org/documents/ehc/ehc/ehc238.pdfCheck the mediafire link.

>> No.10719778

>>10719761
Jesus, didn't know it was that bad.

Is your mediafire link the most comprehensive body of information you have? I'll download it and parse over a few weeks.

If there are any helpful online resources, those would be appreciated.

>> No.10719787

>>10719761
Jesus, didn't know it was that bad.

Is your mediafire link the most comprehensive body of information you have? I'll download it and parse over a few weeks.

If there are any helpful online resources, those would be appreciated.

>> No.10719794

>>10719787
Mentally ill users go to >>>/lgbt/

>> No.10719795

N O N I O N I Z I N G

>> No.10719804

>>10719778
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/dj875cd10yb72/EMF

Check out the text file at the top of the mediafire folder. microwavenews.com is a good online resource, especially their print issues in the 80's and 90's.

I have a few books I've put up as well.
http://www.mediafire.com/folder/5id4om83kk12n/Books

Actually, an anon wanted me to make a mega folder as well. Doesn't have the books or text file yet.
https://mega.nz/#F!lPQDlCBZ!DaDP5Poq_Ti6nhga4frJig

I have a massive amount of documents I've been slowly going through, so I might be adding more occasionally.

>> No.10719810

>>10719804
wow OP really interesting thanks for the link you're also a really great guy

>> No.10719814

>>10719804
I'll download and bookmark. I'm taking action in my community now to spread awareness. Seems a lot of people are also growing increasingly concerned.

Keep up the good work anon.

>> No.10719815

>>10719804
Henlo fren
>>/sci/thread/S10716594#p10716827

>> No.10719817

>>10719810
>>10719815
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.10719834

>>10719804
I'll download and bookmark. I'm taking action in my community now to spread awareness. Seems a lot of people are also growing increasingly concerned.

Keep up the good work anon.

>> No.10719840

5G threads should be a banned topic.

>> No.10719843

>>10719810
>>10719834
I just uploaded a new version of the documents, links, information etc text file. I'm not sure what I've changed at this point, but it's 10kb larger.

>>10719840
5G is going to make you a banned topic.

>> No.10719844

>>10719840
Fuck you, they're more fun than tooker threads and IQ threads

>> No.10719847 [DELETED] 

>>10719843
wow OP really interesting thanks for the quality posts you're a really great guy

>> No.10719857

>>10719840
>lose debate
>"ban them janny"
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.10719883

>>10719804
I'd recommend you use MEGA as primary upload destination as anyone can bulk download. Just DL'ed, appreciated mate.

>> No.10719931

>>10719857
Interesting fanfiction

>> No.10719940

>>10719688
He's agreeing with you. We all agree with you. No debate needed. Trannies, seething, etc.

>> No.10719948

>>10719940
>We all
>it's just one dude in a dress on a proxy

>> No.10720142

>>10719646
Then we should switch to mm-waves! Frequencies above 30 GHz penetrate less than a millimeter into the skin and
gets lower as you increase the frequency.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17929264/
Instead of shooting radiation everywhere like you do with microwaves you can direct mm-waves only where you want them to go. With beam forming you can direct radiation to the receiver and away from stuff that absorbs mm waves. In fact you have to do this in order to make mm-wave comms work. mm wave phones need to have multiple antennas each with beam steering capability or their battery life would be very short. They have to sense that antennas are covered with the body, which can be done by noting that there are no signals coming from those antennas when we send short pings, and use antennas which aren't covered.

>> No.10720173

>>10720142
This sounds so dangerous. What if a hacker got into a bunch of phones and transmitters all at once and steered a bunch of microwave beams at one person?

>> No.10720363

>trannyposts getting deleted
oh no no no

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>>10719646
Wow OP you really cracked this one wide open.

>> No.10720727

>>10720142
The skin is a massive millimeter wave transceiver, and the sweat glands are helical antennas at mm and sub-mm frequencies.

Regardless of what they do, experimental data still shows harm. The Soviets in particular tried to understand this. Many prominent researchers came to assume degenerative changes in the spine and brain, immune system, enzymes systems in organs, were "reflex reactions" secondary to stimulation the receptor apparatus of the skin. We now have good data to suggest this was incorrect. Millimeter waves propagate with very little attenuation in the extracellular space, in the high density H+ regions up against the plasma membrane.

>> No.10720731

>>10720397
The stirrers to deal with standing waves aren't really relevant. The primary issue is that the study was done in a reverberation chamber.

>> No.10720810

>>10720731
they are just emulating the real world, where you have signals coming from all around you off of different devices

>> No.10720815

>>10720810
not really, they only used one signal at a time. that exotic cancers were caused is enough to sound alarm bells and roll back the tech

>> No.10720817

>>10720810
The real world doesn't take place in a reverberation chamber with uniform fields and a high probability of destructive interference.

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>>10720817
>>10720815
incredible cope.
you have a weak hypothesis.
you have zero reason to believe the results don't suggest it causes cancer in humans.
and regardless of the last sentence you have zero reason to believe humans in cities are not in like environments at least part of the day every day, and even if they arn't the sentence above still holds

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>>10720822
>NOOOOO MY UNINSURABLE UNDEMOCRATIC MICROWAVE POLLUTION
it's going away and there's nothing you can do to stop it. until a few days ago you thought you had this forum under your thumb. well, that's all changed now.

>> No.10720833

>>10720822
I'm saying the NTP results are understated. Depolarizing the field and adding the possibility of interference would minimize biological effects. It was a study designed to fail.

iirc they paid industry to design their exposure apparatus. GSM association and all these industry fronts that have been watching the literature for decades, they know what gets results. They know what's real, and what's not.

I'll have to check on the funding and where it went, but I do believe the industry itself designed it. That it showed cancers is far more damning than is being stated.

>> No.10720836

>>10720833
Also, if you want more information on government projects designed to fail, go back to the 90's with the EMF RAPID program. They pulled the same shit then. Then McCain got the program defunded completely.

>> No.10720846

>>10720833
Here's what I think I'm looking for.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0031-9155/51/20/009
They worked with IT'IS.
https://itis.swiss/who-we-are/funding/

>> No.10720851

>>10720846
They also made sure Melnick was switched out for another guy they could control, before the study had ended. Just in case.
https://ehtrust.org/statement-by-ronald-melnick-phd-on-the-national-toxicology-program-final-reports-on-cell-phone-radiation/

NTP goes to show these fuckers aren't Gods, and I'm glad to see their bullshit finally begin to blow up in their face.

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>>10719646
>>10719844
>another 5G thread

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>>10720864
>another you

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>>10720833
oh, cool then!
I really hate how you can get a study for anything.that is industry sponsored and has the opposite results. makes people think science results are useless
the book 'republic, lost' had several examples of this

>> No.10720891

>>10720886
I'll have to read it.

Speaking of "Republic", we do seem to be living in the cave Plato described. I've had to begin minding that more closely. If you show you will dissociate and ignore being irradiated, others will think they can do the same. If you show your extreme distress with the state of things, no matter what they think is true they'll pull away as clearly the truth is a burden that has cause you harm. It restricts and controls you.

It's difficult, I'm not sure quite what the solution is. But this component must be addressed somehow. Those who are aware now, have to make and be the new ship. Most people won't jump off into dark and aimless waters, they'll just stay where they are.

>> No.10720896

So is the schizo right or no?

I am seriously considering to start carrying a handbag with me and put my phone there. All these talk about cancer and cellphones makes me no longer comfortable with the idea of putting my headphone in my pocket so close to my testicles.

>inb4 you are not gonna reproduce anyway.

>> No.10720897

>>10720896
>headphone

I mean smartphone, also to what else can we attribute the raise in male infertility and lower quality of sperm if not smartphone radiation? Well, maybe plastics.

>> No.10720907

>>10720896
Microwave radiation will sterilize you, yes. We've had data indicating that since the 60's. In fact, men int he Navy would deliberately stand int he radar beam before a night out on the town, believing it would induce temporary infertility. I've talked to guys that used to service radar in the 70's, they said it was generally assumed standing in the beam might make you sterile.

Soviet animal studies confirmed this long ago. Modern day histological studies show reduction in ovarian reserves and degenerative changes in the testis. Human studies show reduced sperm count, DNA damage, and morphological changes. In women, it can trigger the zona reaction early (resulting in a dud egg), or prevent it from happening, also a dud because of extreme polyspermy.

So whether you like old research or not, several lines of data are more than there. Any other physical or chemical agent that had been subjected to this much testing with these results would have been eliminated long ago. We had more than cause for caution by the early 70's. By the end of the 70's it was absolutely damning. This history is thoroughly documented and if there are future generations, they'll look at it with pity, bewilderment, and disgust. Like we do with other eras.

>> No.10720918

>>10720897
Xenoestrogens are part of it. There may be a few other factors, but sperm count has dropped around 50% over the last 30 years or so. Sperm quality has also decreased, in a manner that correlates with microwave radiation.

What they're not saying is we're already seeing effects. Most technologically advanced countries have a plummeting birthrate, several of which, like Germany and Singapore, are now below replacement and temporarily masking this with immigration. South Korea is headed towards below replacement, as is the US.

And now, today, you have kids with wifi tablets ont heir laps at home, at school, everywhere they go. And we have rat studies showing 15 minutes of exposure per day, for 15 days, causes a 30-70% reduction in ovarian reserves. You have blue light which suppresses melatonin synthesis, which prevents eggs from maturing. On and on.

>> No.10720925

>>10720918
To directly state the obvious, you can stop using a cell phone and wifi.... but then what? It's still futile, there won't be any women that can have viable children, it's an odds game that's terribly out of your favor. Small mitochondrial defects can be disastrous, and they're forever.

>> No.10720929

>>10720925
Which is why it's vital to stop this now, and stop it completely.

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10721123

>>10720929
>Which is why it's vital to stop this now, and stop it completely.

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10721127

https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-symptoms#1
Let's take a look and see how these fit our 5G alarmist friend in the thread here:

>Persecutory delusions. The feeling someone is after you or that you’re being stalked, hunted, framed, or tricked.
He thinks "tranny shills" are roaming 4chan to promote 5G, not normal people who are tired of mental ill spam. He thinks the RF industry has been actively suppressing studies for decades, and that this is a massive coverup. He thinks that 4chan moderation is complicit in this conspiracy by "censoring" 5G threads.

>Somatic delusions. These center on the body. The person thinks they have a terrible illness or bizarre health problem like worms under the skin or damage from cosmic rays.
Based on this thread, it should be self-evident how this applies.

>Confused thoughts and disorganized speech
Again, look no further than this thread.

He's come to a preconceived decision and will seek support of it anywhere he can find it, the opposite of examining the evidence and coming to a conclusion.

>> No.10721139

>>10721123
>>10721127
ngl i cringed at these posts

>> No.10721143

>>10719752
What is wrong with you?

>> No.10721150

>>10721123
I'm not sure that I understand, Anonymous.

>He thinks "tranny shills" are roaming 4chan to promote 5G
I've never mentioned tranny anything. Your own autism, schizophrenia, or whatever else has caused you to assume many different posters are the same poster.

>He thinks the RF industry has been actively suppressing studies for decades
Demonstrably true, and definitely not without precedent.

>He thinks that 4chan moderation is complicit in this conspiracy by "censoring" 5G threads.
5G threads are being deleted. This is demonstrably true. No precise structure to explain the behavior has been proposed, although it does seem they're complicit in the matter. That's just common sense.

>Based on this thread, it should be self-evident how this applies.
It is not. Specify further.

>Again, look no further than this thread.
As above.

How'dya like me now. Just wait for the gibberish this schizo comes back with.

>> No.10721151

NON IONIZING RADIATION IS HARMLESS.
THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED.

THERE IS NO ROOM FOR DEBATE.

PLEASE TAKE YOUR CONSPIRACRAP TO /X/ AND /POL/


ANTI-SCIENCE PERSONS ARE NOT WELCOMED. I WILL NOT DISCUSS YOUR THREAD. I HAVE A BACHELORS OF SCIENCES. I KNOW WHAT I AM FUCKIN TALKING ABOUT.

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>>10721151
5G is safe and effective.

>> No.10721159

>>10721139
>>10721143
>>10721150
>damage control by samefagging again

>> No.10721162

>>10721159
I considered taking a screenshot of your post, but didn't.
;^)

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>>10721150
>I've never mentioned tranny anything
Wrong. >>10720363
>5G threads are being deleted. This is demonstrably true. No precise structure to explain the behavior has been proposed, although it does seem they're complicit in the matter. That's just common sense.
No, it's because you keep spamming them and calling anyone who disagrees with you a shill or a tranny, because you are mentally ill. Seek help.

>> No.10721171

>>10721164
>>10721150
>I've never mentioned tranny anything
Why lie on the internet when an archive exists?
>>/g/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=Tranny

>> No.10721173

>>10721171
>he thinks im him
rent free

>> No.10721177

>>10721173
No, I'm sure you're just a completely different anon who happens to use the exact same images, links and talking points as the schizospammer and has taken it upon himself to suddenly start posting anti-5G sentiment at the exact same time as the other guy. Hell, you even have a MediaFire link that looks exactly like the other guy's one. Funny how that works.

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>>10721177
>"the schizospammer"
actually rent free

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>>10721164
Not a legitimate poster. Will ignore.

>Pic related
You and your split mind. Best of luck.

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>replying twice to try and get my attention
jej I'm going to wait around till another poster who isn't you comes into the thread and watch the shitshow as you try and deny the clear evidence that you're samefagging and spamming

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>>10721194

>> No.10721238

This thread is getting derailed. This means people are too lazy to read the studies and would appreciate a summarization.

>> No.10721245

>>10721238
cell phone signals cause cancer and mossad does not want you to know about it

>> No.10721251

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz_9oJwv1FU

>> No.10721266

>>10721238
Every time schizOP has tried posting excerpts he’s been shut down and demonstrated his clear lack of reading comprehension to the thread. He’s resorted to posting walls of studies in a transparent attempt to stop being BTFOed, similar to the blatant samefagging.

>> No.10721270

>>10721266
See >>71391370 for a great example of this happening

>> No.10721273

>>10721270
>dead link
>literally shouting at phantoms
schizo

>> No.10721275

>>10721270
Whoops, forgot what board I was on
>>>/g/71391370

>> No.10721276

>>10721275
>cant even crossboard properly
they're not paying you enough i guess

>> No.10721280

>>10721276
Except in my case I just forgot what board I was on, I've already demonstrated an understanding of how crossboard linking works in the previous threads. You on the other hand literally didn't realise you'd linked to a /g/ post from 2010 because you're a newfag who has no concept of how imageboards work.
>>/g/thread/S71374759#p71384228

>> No.10721283

>>10721280
what the fuck, do you find you alienate people IRL with BPD behavior such as this

i've heard of corporations hiring mentally ill people to do what you do, sad to see it in action

get help

>> No.10721298

Can someone give me the mainstream scientific view of non-ionising radiation?
My wikipedia based understanding is that it doesn't alter molecules, so it wouldn't cause cell damage or create cancer cells except insofar as heat would.

Are the people concerned about 5G saying the laws of physics don't explain its effects? Are these effects reproducible?

>> No.10721332

>>10721298
I've done this above. See the mediafire or mega link.

You need to understand here. That IS the mainstream view, all the way back to the 60's. Take Adey for example. Worked with DARPA in its project Pandora, worked extensively with NASA, designed radar arrays, taught anatomy at Oxford, published dozens of papers and was scientifically active for like 60 years. He, to my recollection, was key in founding UCLA's brain research institute.

That's just one guy. These are not fringe researchers just because no one talks about their results and what they wrote, just because you have some guy on the news or the television saying "look everyone we're allowed to act like what we're seeing is there, it's official, cell phones are bad!" No. This is well studied. Engage with the literature.

Short version, it does a lot of stuff, the primary mechanism is an action on the charge groups int he voltage sensing subunit of calcium channels, calcium influx, downstream changes from calcium signalling and elevated free radical generation. With wifi you have changes from irradiating an aqueous solution with a frequency near the maximum dielectric loss of water. Etc. That's a summary, you're just going to have to read up.

>> No.10721334

>>10721298
>saying the laws of physics don't explain its effects?
And to address this specifically, we've gone 'round with this since the early 1900's. One name is came to be known by was the "kT paradox". It has been "solved" many times, regardless of what people like the Herman P Schwan's tried to say in their given era.

It's pretty simple. Even if we didn't know how it worked, the effects are consistent and reproducible. It doesn't matter if you know how it happens, it never did.

>> No.10721617

>>10721298
>Are the people concerned about 5G saying the laws of physics don't explain its effects?
No, the point being made is that 5G is using higher frequency radiation than the shit that came before it. And you have to take into consideration that there is plenty of data suggesting that the currently existing EM pollution is already bad for your health so implementing 5G could potentially make that worse. And the media tries to shill for it with clickbait titles like the Wired's article "Bird-killing, cancer-causing 5G is the internet's new favourite conspiracy theory" which the writer very clearly didn't set out as a neutral third-party perspective.
>Are these effects reproducible?
Yes

>> No.10721620

>>10719646
Yeah non-ionizing can fatigue and effect the body NO DOUBT! The media and industry avoid this.

They love telling the masses NO CANCER. The buzzword alone shuts up 70% of people. Shame really.

As non-ionising radiation could be ruining their day right now.

>> No.10721623

>>10721620
>As non-ionising radiation could be ruining their day right now.
It is.

>> No.10721624

>>10721623
True. I correct myself, it is ruining their day........RIGHT NOW.

>> No.10721627

>>10721624
It ruined their yesterday and will ruin their tomorrow.
It is ruining everything all the time.

>> No.10721633

>>10721627
Yeah totally agree.

>> No.10721637

>>10719695
>For female rats, and male and female mice, it was unclear if tumors observed in the studies were associated with RFR used by cell phones.
So they couldn't test 100 rats tied to cell phone vs 100 rats living in normal conditions to get a clear statistical picture?

>> No.10721642

>>10721633
Same.

>> No.10721643

>>10721637
Would of been a good idea, i agree. Much more interesting results, why they don't proper reflect society exposures is beyond me.

(i'm not for wireless industry btw)

>> No.10721654

>>10721642
>>10721633
>>10721627
Samefag

>> No.10721656

>>10719646
https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/about/org/sep/trpanel/meetings/docs/2018/march/videos/videos.html

Here's a peer review video sessions. The conclusion is clear, cell phone radiation causes cancers.

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>>10721654
dduuuuuhhhh
uuuhhh
ddduuuurr
duh
ddduuuuurrrrRRRRrRRrRrRr[arr]hhh

Anon, let's say you were right. Then what?
Let's say you were wrong. Then what?

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>>10721656
I think some people need a quick, firm tap right t the sack. Nothing wakes an animal up faster than a good old tap to the sack. All these so-called men letting their kids, and wife, and friends get irradiated, cowering down. Need a good kick right to the balls, see if they still work.

>> No.10721678

>>10721637
>>10721643
https://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/about_ntp/trpanel/2018/march/tr596peerdraft.pdf

Page 54. ~210 mouse were used of half female/male population. Rats were exposed to 10 min of cellphone radiation and then 10 minutes off for the period of roughly 18 hours a day. The control mouse were not exposed to the cell phone radiation. Each of the housed/fed individually. Every 2-4 week, various studies/evaluation were done on random samples of rats. The study lasted 2 years. The mice were all roughly the same age group from the start. Not only were their brain scanned, every part of their internal body parts were examined/tested tested. Along with their interactions with parasites.

>cell phone radiation = gsm/cdma device that uses 1900 mhz (standard frequency)

>> No.10721700

>>10721658
We should always err on the side of disaster, obviously.

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>>10721660
This is nonsense. Only ionizing radiation can be dangerous. Of course our highly profitable product has no possible negative health effects, you uneducated fear-monger.

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>>10719646
I DARE SOMEONE IN THIS FUCKING BOARD TO REFUTE THIS YOU BUNCH OF FUCKING BRAINLETS:

You were taught by scientifically illiterate spergs.
I seriously can't understand how this board keeps making threads about this when there are multiple, not just one, MULTIPLE IEC and whatnot standards for exposure to non ionizing radiation.

There are fucking limits. The effects are fucking well known. This type of thread shows me that /sci/ is just a rick and morty subreddit and no one fucking knows how to operate a basic search engine to find any relevant fucking results.

If you people think non ionizing radiation can't have side effects you should try visiting someone that lives next to a high voltage powerline in some shit country that still allows this.

>> No.10721771

>>10721762
It's almost as if any radiation at high wattages can heat up molecules... woah...

>> No.10721775

>>10721762
>I seriously can't understand how this board keeps making threads about this
It's not "this board", it's just you spamming your trash every few hours.

>> No.10721785

>>10721771

>Heat up
Holy fuck how can you be so dumb. You think the lamps in the picture are turning on even though they are disconnected from everything because of heating? Please tell me you didn't major in a STEM field.
Have you ever heard of induced currents?

>>10721775
I'm not making these shit threads. This board should be banning them. It's ridiculous to discuss if non ionizing radiation "might have health effects" when it's been known for a fucking long time that it does.


Try any of the following documents and see if they convince you non-ionizing radiation can be dangerous at various frequency levels:

Title 8- CCR, ACGIH, ANSI Z136.2, FCC OET 65, IEEE C95.1, Title 8-CCR, IRPA/INIRC, NIR Protection Guidelines, ACGIH

>> No.10721786

>>10721771
>fluorescent tubes light up because they're being heated

You are retard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLwD60hPK4I

>> No.10721790

>>10721678
>Male and female B6C3F1/N mice were exposed to
time-averaged whole-body specific absorption rates of 0 (sham control), 5, 10, or 15 W/kg Global System for
Mobile Communications (GSM)- or Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA)-modulated cell phone RFR at
1,900 MHz for 28 days or 0, 2.5, 5, or 10 W/kg GSM- or CDMA-modulated cell phone RFR for up to 2 years.
Into the trash it goes

>> No.10721819

>>10721785
It's almost as if electricity can be transmitted wirelessly through the use of electromagnetic waves... woah... I never knew...

>> No.10721825

>>10721786
>fluorescent tubes light up because they're being heated
Who are you quoting? When did I say that?

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>we need 5G guys we cant halt the endless march of progress

>> No.10722238

Am I fucked if I sit next to the wifi and my smartphone all day?

>> No.10722242

>>10722238
yes
you will become electrically sensitive if you stay in the fields for too long
if you've been ill lately, try turning everything that emites microwaves off
you can get a meter to detect any hidden emitters

>> No.10722315

How bad is a computer monitor?

>> No.10722335

>>10722315
Mid. Can have unique effects. Can be used for manipulation of your brain function.

Back in the 80's women in clerical environments began to be exposed to "visual display terminals", VDTs. There was a massive spike in miscarriages. It depends on the type of display apparatus.

>> No.10722343

>>10719646
Well, let's just say the people who have an agenda will be working hard to make it look like they were wrong all along.

Also please tell me that is not a lot of money given the current funding situation.

>> No.10722344

>>10722335
CRTs yea

>> No.10722383

>>10721740
Well not just that but think of it like this. You have a phone inside your pocket at all times, so does absolutely everyone else. What happens to the surveillance network set up by countries like the US when everyone stops carrying them in their pockets? Sure, somebody could act like a hero and try to reduce cancer rates by 0.5% OR they could just turn a blind eye to the matter and dismiss it as a conspiracy theory. There could be a lot of fucking jobs being lost as a result of people no longer using their pocket TVs 24/7.

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>>10722335
correlation = causation

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>>10722387
>Have a bunch of women working in clerical environments
>Install VDTs
>Miscarriage rate rises to 80%, n=25-40.
>Multiple locations.
>One was in a hospital.
>Find out the displays use massive flyback transformers that generate a unique time varying magnetic field

dude, whoa. You could use google, too. duuuhhhh dduuurrrr core not coz, dduuhhh i said it again duuhhh!!!!

>> No.10722408

4g is fast enough for sm*rtphones anyway

>> No.10722412

>>10722408
4G is lethal. All of it must go.

>> No.10722422

>>10722335
>Can be used for manipulation of your brain function.

I don't understand. Is it the radiation itself or what you do on the computer?

>> No.10722430

>>10722422
The field itself. Refer to
2001 - Nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitors
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6506148
And in full:

Robert G Malech
1974 - Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3951134A/
1976 - Brain wave activity monitoring device - has electromagnetic energy input and retransmission system with electronic evaluator
https://patents.google.com/patent/FR2339384A1/en

Hendricus G Loos
Background: https://discover.dtic.mil/results/?q=hendricus%20loos
1993 - Pulse variability in electric field manipulation of nervous systems
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6167304A/
1995 - Magnetic excitation of sensory resonances
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5935054A
1995 - Thermal excitation of sensory resonances
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5800481A
1997 - Subliminal acoustic manipulation of nervous systems
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6017302A
1997 - Method and apparatus for manipulating nervous systems
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5782874A/en
1998 - Electric fringe field generator for manipulating nervous systems
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6081744A/
1998 - Pulsative manipulation of nervous systems
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6091994A
1999 - Remote magnetic manipulation of nervous systems
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6238333B1
2001 - Nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitors
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6506148

Bruce F Katz
2000 - Method and device for producing a desired brain state
https://patents.google.com/patent/US6488617B1/en
2005 - Brain state recognition system
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7403815B2/en

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>>10722406
ewh.ieee.org/soc/embs/comar/vdt.pdf
>Neither laboratory nor epidemiological research has shown convincing evidence that the electromagnetic fields emanating from VDTs adversely affected the health of VDT operators. Studies of effects on pregnant women using VDTs have failed to establish a link between VDT fields and miscarriages or birth defects

>Because miscarriage rates were not consistently affected within specific occupational categories, the validity of the association of VDTs and miscarriage is questionable. A study by McDonald et al. [19 ] indicated a small risk, but the majority of the studies which followed found that use of VDTs did not increase the risks of either miscarriage or birth defects [20, 21, 22, 23].

OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.10722453

>Two studies of workers who used VDTs are of particular interest because they obtained information on exposure levels. In the first, VDT users were compared with other employees whose jobs were similar except that they used older equipment without CRTs [26, 27]. The study design allowed separation of any effects of physical and psychological job characteristics from those of VDT emissions. Measurements showed that VDT-related ELF exposures to the abdomens of these workers were comparable to background levels. VLF fields at the abdomen, although higher for the VDT users, were low and well within exposure guidelines. The results showed no difference in spontaneous abortion rates among 323 telephone operators during any month of pregnancy (odds ratio for the first trimester = 0.93, 95% CI: 0.63-1.38), nor did the rate vary by the amount of VDT use per week.

>In the second study [28] VDT workers also were found not to be at increased risk for spontaneous abortion (odds ratio = 1.1, 95% CI: 0.7- 1.6).

>> No.10722456

>>10722444
You'll find a study like that for literally every area of bioelectromagnetics. Now look for all the studies they conveniently omitted, and for a bit of history.

It's really the same pattern every time.

>> No.10722463

>>10722456
Cope.

>> No.10722465

>>10722456
>conveniently omitted
Just like you conveniently omit all the studies that go against your narrative right?

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>>10722444
>>10722453
>>10722463
>>10722465
oh no no telecoms trannies, we've spent literally 120 hours in a row and we still cant control the narrative

>> No.10722472

>>10722456
I'm sure wi-cancer.info included the study linked above on their site though yes?

>> No.10722481

>>10722465
>>10722472
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Amicrowavenews.com+VDT&t=brave&ia=web

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>>10722481
That's not wi-cancer.info you fucking moron

>> No.10722489

>>10722486
I don't know anything about that site. You can search it the same way.

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>>10722471
Cope.

>> No.10722494

>>10722489
>I don't know anything about that site.
So why do you keep linking it in your other spamthreads?
>>/sci/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=wi-cancer

>> No.10722495

I give up, you fucking shitlords. What does it take huh? We're on here for nearly a year trying to influence you bunch of dick heads and NOTHING works. My contract is up soon and I just have to fucking know. Seriously, we're in it for millions upon millions of dollars, and jack shit out of you. We took down McCain and Romney, we own reddit like a dog on a leash. But here, HERE, you can literally watch the opinion swing towards starting point between shift changes. How the fuck does this shit hole have that kind of power? We've influenced foreign governments and entire races of people to do our fucking bidding, but YOU have to be the ones to fuck it all up. And no matter what we try an how much we try to blend in, we’re picked out like our heads are on fire! What THE FUCK IS IT ABOUT THIS PLACE. Even after we got the owner to sell and even after we replaced the mods, short of total shutdown we have had zero successes. And is not even a stalemate, we can't even CONTAIN you shitheads as you puke your filth all over the internet. I've tried reason, threats, duplicate posting, spamming, bait and switching, every single psyop technique we've fucking GOT for online use. We hold sway on nearly every single English speaking fucking board with more than a hundred active users and this MIASMA of human refuse has stood up to us better than nuclear foreign powers. WHY WONT YOU JUST DO WHAT WE TELL YOU TO DO YOU FUCKING SCUM.

>> No.10722500

>>10722494
i'm the guy that links wi-cancer, not him

>> No.10722504
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>>10722495
The funny thing is we're the only two people currently in this thread and I know for a fact I didn't post that so that leaves us with the hilarious fact that you spent time typing all that out in a fit of rage only for you to reply to yourself in a minute when the cooldown expires to try desperately to discredit me. Take your meds

>> No.10722506

>>10722504
>replying to yourself
sloppy job

>> No.10722508

>>10722500
And you both just happen to spam "industry tranny" at anyone who disagrees with you and you both happened to start posting these threads within the exact same time interval yes?

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>>10722504

>> No.10722516

>>10722495
>>10722506
imagine writing this and thinking people would fall for it

>> No.10722517

>>10722508
i'm the guy that's calling out the obvious industry shilling and damage control, he's the guy with the mediafire link and tons of research who knows this topic very well

cope that everyone who sees these threads is influenced against 5G

>> No.10722519

>>10722516
Section 13 of every vaccine insert:
"[Vaccine] has not been tested for mutagenic potential, carcinogenic potential, or impairment of fertility."

>> No.10722524

>>10722517
>i'm the guy that's calling out the obvious industry shilling and damage control
While crying "industry tranny" at anyone who disagrees with you
>he's the guy with the mediafire link and tons of research who knows this topic very well
While crying "industry tranny" at anyone who disagrees with him
>cope that everyone who sees these threads is influenced against 5G
Oh really? Because you were the laughing stock of /g/ for the few hours your thread remained up there. Funny how you haven't posted another thread there since.

>> No.10722532

>>10722524
Are you married?
Wife, kids? Friends or family?

What drives you?

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>>10722524
you're mentally diseased to the point of spamming scat and copypasting my posts in the thread so there are duplicates, this is a massive and unprecedented level of COPE that surpasses even your 2016 defeat

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>>10722532
>>10722535
>you're mentally diseased
Careful anon, I might call on the evil trannies to eat you in your sleep, remember, they're always watching you ;)

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>>10722535
>even your 2016 defeat
Go on, react to this image. I want to see you rage as you try desperately to deal with the cognitive dissonance again.

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>>10722541
you're powerless in every way, grovel at my feet

>>10722545
>drumpf wants 5G and even 6G
>6G pic related
>doesn't know about 4D chess
this is why you keep losing tranny

>> No.10722558

>>10722553
>Trump plays 4D chess
>>>/trash/

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>>10722553
>h-he doesn't actually want 5G!!!!
>he just keeps explicitly saying he wants the US to lead in 5G as a joke!!
How does one become this in denial of reality?

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>>10722558
>>10722563

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>>10722567
That image is literally you though, you have been clearly provided with evidence that your idol that you worship unconditionally supports something you disagree with fundamentally and you literally cannot come to terms with the fact so you stick your fingers in your ears and lash out. It's fucking embarrassing man, not even memeing any more, you genuinely require help.
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/04/12/president-trump-5g-is-a-race-we-will-win.html

>> No.10722574

>>10722572
That filename is gold

>> No.10722578

>>10722553
>Muh 4D chess
Embarrassing, even for a zoomer.

>> No.10722582

>>10722574
>>10722578
I kind of feel bad for the guy to be honest. I'm not going to lie, I used to be one of the Trump cultists back in the election season who denied that Trump could ever do wrong, but I got out before I ever got too bad. I could've easily ended up like the guy we're all making fun of if I had kept up that delusion for a little while longer. Scary how invested in stupid shit like tribalism politics people become.

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>>10722572
>>10722574
>>10722578
>>10722582

>> No.10722600

Also if you're reading this mate, I want you to know that despite the shitposting and all I don't hate you or anything. I hope to God that you come to understand that politics and Trump isn't everything. If you want to wean yourself off all that junk, try visiting other boards like /o/ or /mu/ or something more often, find yourself something you enjoy outside of politics. It will improve your life, I promise.

>> No.10722604

>>10722600
im a hillshill now

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Reminder that this 5G industry tranny was literally going on about "the mobile lifestyle" in another thread and how 5G is great because it will enable said "mobile lifestyle"

>> No.10722617

>>10722604
No hillary shilling required, I promise. I haven't visited /pol/ in many months now and my overall happiness has increased dramatically. If you don't want to believe me, that's okay, but ask anyone who's been on /pol/ (or 4chan in general) for an extended period of time and they'll all tell you just how much they've come to hate the place. There is more to life than this place, I hope you come to realise that eventually.

>> No.10722627

>>10722617
You're a corporate tranny astorturfer nerd virgin. You sleep in a musty, stuffy commune with other trannies. You have community dilation sessions and estrogen-doping lunch breaks all paid for by your masters who really just want to dispose of you just as much as any other soul unfortunate enough to intermingle with your physically, socially and mentally malformed presence.

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>>10722627

BTFO holy shit

>> No.10722634

>>10719723
>tin foil
foil is aluminum now, Grandpa

>> No.10722655

>>10722582
>>10722600
>>10722617
Good for you, man. Genuinely.

>> No.10722656

>>10722655
>our deradicalization is really working guys
>/pol/ more influential than ever
>anti-5G movements growing by the thousands every single day in multiple countries
>anti-globalist rhetoric and sentiment massively spiked since 2015 and no sign of slowing
you are finished little faggot boy

>> No.10722662

>>10722656
If you have to keep repeating it to believe it then it's probably not true. Free advice. No charge.

>> No.10722664

>>10722662
>I believe that she will win I believe that she will win I believe that she will win

>> No.10722668

>>10722655
Thanks, it's all fun and games laughing at the resident schizos but at the end of the day there is a real person behind the posts who is genuinely not well through no fault of their own. These people will vote against the very policies that could've provided them with treatment and medication without even realizing it.

>> No.10722669

>>10722664
>Being this obsessed with a retired politician
>>>/pol/

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>>10722668
>>10722669
now dump your scat folder, demon

>> No.10722677

>>10722668
That's a very mature perspective, but I just come here to call people retarded. Honestly the YTR larping on /b/ is getting in the way of that though, so I'm stuck in Limbo

>> No.10722681

>>10722662
>>10722664
>>10722668
>>10722669
Just to make it clear that they're not as clever as they think, the purpose of these posts are to irrecoverably derail the thread, lowering SNR to an unusable point. It's supposed to clutter, conflate, and distract. Until the thread is at bump limit.

The Ideal:
Contain. Quantify. Control.

>> No.10722684

>>10722681
This is a hot topic and will be until the masts come down. It's obvious to new visitors to any thread that there is an immediate burst of FUD propaganda which is easily rebutted with studies, such as the NTP study. Then they'll try other tactics such as these.

Surprised they haven't used the scat spam as seen here (warning very NSFW): >>/sci/thread/S10708724

>> No.10722690

>>10722684
>that warosu link
wow these telecoms shills are real and absolutely demented. is this what 5G does to your brain?

>> No.10722694

>>10722681
>>10722684
>Is this the power of cognitive dissonance?
We're chatting it up because you two got BTFO and went back to calling everyone trannies.

>> No.10722695

>>10722677
>YTR
What's that?

>> No.10722700

Imagine being so dumb that you think 5G causes cancer

>> No.10722703

>>10722700
Imagine being so dumb that you can't read studies or listen to the anecdotes of those that live around the phone masts

>> No.10722708

>>10722695
Yellow Turban Rebellion. It was a largely religious movement during the Three Kingdoms that basically went nowhere. The larpers want to rid /b/ of porn so I expect this YTR will also go nowhere

>> No.10722715

>>10722708
Sounds fun, I haven't been on /b/ in a while so I might check it out

>> No.10722723

>>10722715
Do it up. The only real effect I've noticed is there are no political threads anymore because all the Trump supporters are busy shouting "DEUS VULT" so they either 404 or just aren't made

>> No.10722731

>>10722723
cope

>> No.10722737

>>10722731
Absolutely. I've been itching to argue with Trumptards for like a week now

>> No.10722753

>>10722737
for what purpose? the left has already lost all clout. you may as well spend your time doing something productive.

>> No.10722757

>>10722753
Because delusions like yours never ceases to entertain me

>> No.10722758

>>10722703
Imagine being dumb enough to listen to anecdotes

>> No.10722765

>>10722757
you are delusion made flesh

>> No.10722770

>>10722765
>Jeb-tier trolling
At least try

>> No.10722776

>>10722770
pfft hahaha

>> No.10722810

>>10719646
>At 12W/kg, most of the observed increases exceeded the time‐matched control group by ≥1°C
They microwave clone rats and mice their entire lives and then claim it might cause two or three kinds of cancers only in a subgroup of them, maybe. How is that proof that the RFR we use for communication is significantly harmful to humans?

You cellphone hysterics are almost as bad as GMO hysterics.

I am not saying that it is impossible that non-ionizing radiation can have adverse health effects which are not a consequence of elevated body temperature. What I am saying is that these studies don't prove shit. Obviously if such an effect exists, it is very small, or we would have already detected it conclusively in humans. So the proper way to proceed would be to analyze which physical effects RFR has on living tissue, not to microwave a bunch of animals.

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>>10722810
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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>>10722817
Woooow. Incredible isn't it? As our healthcare and wealth advances, we diagnose a lot of things more frequently.

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>>10722824
ok ICNIRP
google my filename to find the source of image

>> No.10722841

>>10722832
Just post your singular most convincing piece of evidence.

>> No.10722842

>>10722841
>only use one source of evidence
the NTP study is going to be the basis of a lot of cell tower removals

>> No.10722871

>>10722842
Ahh, I see. You have zero convincing evidence. That's why you resort to quantity fallacy.

>> No.10722873

>>10722871
>clear evidence that 2G signals cause rare heart and brain cancers
>zero convincing evidence
lol k

>> No.10722878

>>10722873
Obviously any further discussion with you is a waste of time. You are like a flat earther.
>look at all this clear evidence that the earth is flat
>no I dont have to show you a single piece of conclusive evidence

>> No.10722881

>>10722878
likewise:
>here is clear evidence the earth is not flat
>sorry you have zero convincing evidence

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>>10722873
>Clear evidence organic food causes autism
>Zero convincing evidence
That's you. That's what you sound like

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>>10722886
you're just further evidence that science no longer adheres to enlightenment principles, it's just another platform for corporate cult behavior and conformity

you are an NPC and you're proud of having an automated consciousness

>> No.10722894

>>10719646
Also look at this: https://pubpeer.com/publications/C6A90D0670E761EDA8EDFB9AEFFD8A

>> No.10722899

>>10722894
also see this:

https://ehtrust.org/expert-reaction-australian-centre-electromagnetic-bioeffects-research-criticism-national-toxicology-program-study-cell-phone-radio-frequency-radiation/

>> No.10722919

>>10722889
My graph has a stronger correlation than your implication based on half the data. You're just a tranny shill for the organic food industry trying to suppress the truth.

>> No.10722920

>https://www.emfanalysis.com/research/?fbclid=IwAR14nFgnygsyO5Z54kamTeCx7g2vOzAiR6Udflt1DSA_4MR6-basedRLCphFM

Meta-analysis here. There's ton of negative effects of man made radiation. For years, common people have speculated that wifi/cell phones could cause cancers and they were dismissed as myths/conspiracy. Now its actually true. Literally thousands of different studies from independent researchers across the field, even the military had done tons of research on this. Links to various cancer, sperm damage, dna damage were all reported by independent studies. The ones who had hidden the dangers of the reports were the cell phone companies.

>> No.10722921

>>10722919
took you a bit longer to respond there, did you need to go and have a cry?

>> No.10722926

>>10722921
No, I'm at work. You'll learn about that when you start taking your meds and get a job

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>>10722926
>I'm at work
that much is obvious

>> No.10722941

>>10722929
Obviously not for an organic tranny shill like yourself. Did you need to dilate before you get back to your war-gaming, or are you incapable of forming a cogent response?

>> No.10722945

>>10722941
I can understand how you came to the conclusion that you needed to castrate yourself. You are pathetic.

>> No.10722948

>>10722945
>Is a tranny
>Calls other people trannies
How much does Big Organic pay you?

>> No.10722955

>>10722948
You've been caught and outed as a telecoms shill and now you're all dejected and soppy, though I suspect humiliation of this magnitude is not abnormal throughout the unfortunate course of your pitiful life.

>> No.10722966

>>10722955
>Can't respond to facts and evidence
>Still insists on shilling for Big Organic
They're going to fire you at this rate. More time for your dilation, I guess

>> No.10722977

>>10722966
>>10722948
>>10722941
>>10722926
>>10722919
Based
>>10722955
>>10722945
>>10722929
>>10722921
Cringe organic industry shill

>> No.10722993

>>10722977
Check'd and kek'd

>> No.10723014

>>10719735
Your level of delusion makes flat earthers look legit.

>> No.10723026

>>10719688
No, because it's the mods that post these bait threads about 5G, IQ, and can't into analysis questions because they are buttmad they are too dumb to do math.

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>>10722966
>>10722977
>>10722993
>>10723014
>>10723026

>> No.10723180

>>10719646
get help
Or better: microwave yourself

>> No.10723189

>>10723180
>microwave yourself
did you think this was funny? how would this even be accomplished?

>> No.10723206

>>10723189
Turn on a wifi router.

>> No.10723347

>>10723189
Phone next to your pocket, and fry your dick. In just 2 years, your sperm count will start dropping and you'll start developing cancers.

>> No.10723350

>>10723347
>just 2 years
try 2 minutes

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>>10722966
>>10722948
>>10722941
>>10722926
>>10722919
>>10722977
>>10722993
>>10723014
>>10723026
>>10723180
>>10723206
you on the left