/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10704845
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>>10704845

Scam artist that has contributed nothing. Has a sugar baby divorced his old wife and entertains billionaires and dinner with empty promises of "eternal life" in exchange for money. But the catch is you must pay now baka. He is the equivalent of a shaman but even shamans at least believe their own shit. He's an artistic scam artist.

>>10704861
>funds University research at Yale and Johns Hopkins
>shits on Google Calico
>spun off multiple companies from SENS Research Foundation to exploit modern day capitalism and get investors
>Ichor Therapeutics
>AmyloSENS
>Human Regeneration Biotechnologies
>Revel
>Arigos, which just revolutionized cryonic preservation after death by pumping helium through your veins instead of toxic vitrification cryoprotectants
>”he’s contributed nothing”
>mfw

>>10704882
he's a voice with no substance and even said questionable things about calorie restriction

>>10704882

You fell for the bait retard

>mfw

what has he actually done? how are we any closer to understanding life extension now than we were five years ago?

It's not ignoring him, it's merely because science institutions across the board including unis, corps and gov have been working on this concept amongst other concepts. Essentially his idea has been around for decades upon decades!

Ofcourse technology has improved hence allowing more probing into the matter and slowly but surly transitioning the theory into actual tangible scientific results.

Another very, very important component to certain type of development such is longevity is passion, he is very passionate and people like him in this case are best not necessary placed in charge of organizing research! Wierd have,, you'd think passionate people like him should lead it but they tend to get super excited and memorized by new advances, sometimes lingering too long!

This type of research requires cold cut logistics, paired with contained passion to maximize productivity!w

I wonder if the elites are using already some special/secret tech like DeBeers on Deus Ex, or they stick to the soul transfer.
Mmmhh

>>10704882
You forgot
>Donated a large sum of his own inheritance to the research

>>10704845
Old man's lost his marbles. Should be put in a home, not allowed to make a fool of himself in public; where's his family through all this?

>>10704845
because nobody want to life forever.

If they do, its because they havn't been exposed to the real world yet.

>>10704845
Cause he LISP!

>>10705473
wat

He proved the chromatic number of the plane is at least 5.

>>10704861
if he was a scam artist has failed, considering he put in 13 million dollars in SENS. If you have that kind of cash, you don't even need to scam anyone, you'd be set for life without lifting a finger or risking your money.

>>10704882
>did some corporate nothing shit wow gee whizz

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>>10704845
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>>10704845
His goals aren't realistic, and there are much smaller and more attainable problems that people would rather try to solve.

>>10704861
He's not really a scam artist - his foundation does publish in reputable journals and they have funded legitimate research. It just won't go anywhere.

>>10704882
>Arigos, which just revolutionized cryonic preservation after death by pumping helium through your veins instead of toxic vitrification cryoprotectants

This, uh, doesn't sound like it would work to prevent cell death at all.

>>10704845
because like with every conman he repeats the same shit over and over again, and you discuss it once and then never again

>>10707108
>>10707225
>The Methuselah Foundation is a non-profit organization.... Its mission is to 'make 90 the new 50 by 2030' by supporting tissue engineering and regenerative medicine therapies
>The Methuselah Mouse Prize (Mprize)[31] was created to increase scientific and public interest in longevity research by awarding two cash prizes: "one to the research team that broke the world record for the oldest-ever mouse; and one to the team that developed the most successful late-onset rejuvenation strategy."The Mprize was announced publicly in 2003 by David Gobel and Aubrey de Grey at the American Aging Association. The prize for longevity was first won by a research team led by Andrzej Bartke of Southern Illinois University. The prize for rejuvenation first went to Stephen Spindler of the University of California, Riverside.

The man literally decentralized his Research Foundatio to gain an influx of capitalist money.

>>10707108
>His goals aren't realistic, and there are much smaller and more attainable problems that people would rather try to solve.
The goal of saving your own life and curing cancer isn't realistic or something people would try to solve? Sounds exactly like the type of thing people would try to solve

>>10707239
>The man literally decentralized his Research Foundatio to gain an influx of capitalist money.

I'm not an expert on scientific financial ethics so it's hard for me to tell whether that's an issue. Is it a conflict-of-interest?

>The goal of saving your own life and curing cancer isn't realistic or something people would try to solve? Sounds exactly like the type of thing people would try to solve

Nobody in the world of medical research is researching 'saving your life' or 'curing cancer'. Take the latter for instance - every cancer is different and there's probably no way to knock out every single type of cancer with one treatment. People specialize on researching specific types because it means a higher chance of making a working therapy, and even then it's still unlikely. You can see why someone who just researches 'life extension' will easily go their entire career without even helping to get anything to market.

If Aubrey de Grey's goal is to facilitate research that might be useful in 600 years, then fine, good for him. If he thinks that there's any non-zero odds of his foundation 'curing death' in this century, he's deluded.

>>10707263
>I'm not an expert on scientific financial ethics so it's hard for me to tell whether that's an issue. Is it a conflict-of-interest?
There will undoubtedly be issues, the primary one being that these procedures will initially be very expensive and only for the wealthy - which is fine, because we need guinea pigs anyway for something as mind-boggling as DNA editing

>People specialize on researching specific types because it means a higher chance of making a working therapy, and even then it's still unlikely.
This is true. But I wonder now that AI has unlimited datas to feed off of and neural nets actually work if we will be able to siphon any scientific gainz off of them related to health and medicine.

>>10707367
>There will undoubtedly be issues, the primary one being that these procedures will initially be very expensive and only for the wealthy - which is fine, because we need guinea pigs anyway for something as mind-boggling as DNA editing

No, the primary problem is that the technology required to accomplish his goals does not exist.

>But I wonder now that AI has unlimited datas to feed off of and neural nets actually work if we will be able to siphon any scientific gainz off of them related to health and medicine.

Yes, but AI is a lot more boring than you probably think it is. The exciting things with data science in medicine is figuring out how to optimize treatment dosage/choice. We are light-years away from having computers shit out brand new cancer drugs.

>>10704845
I can't believe they cloned us.
Worse, I can't believe we have to live in the shadow of our own clones success.

>>10707602
don't worry. there is no way to gene-edit for lycanthropy.