/sci/ - Science & Math

Lol this 300k math meme has been here for like 6 years, when will it die?

>any job
Like what?
Is it really worth it?

Congrats, you start Monday

>>10680701
You'll be a starbucks barista like all the other math majors

>>10680721
you're confusing him for an engineer

>>10680740
I honestly feel bad for you

>>10680740
math majors are more useless

>>10680705
>Like what?
Starbucks barista, I could go on...

>>10680704
We need to adjust it for inflation now

>>10680701
Is this a meme or not? I'm gonna start going to CC this coming fall and majoring in math. Afterwards, I plan to transfer to a uni.

Please tell me that math is not a meme. Aren't all the people working as automation engineers, data scientists, quants...etc all former math majors?

>>10680740
cope

>>10680799
Do Math and computational science, trust me

>>10680799
>Aren't all the people working as automation engineers, data scientists, quants...etc all former math majors?
top kek
Enjoy serving coffee.

>>10680802
>trying to ruin another mans life
Why are people in /sci/ so mean?

>>10680704
U die first, nibba

>>10680806
Nice argument

>>10680803
I didn't enroll yet because I'm unsure. I'm thinkingof honestly just going to somevocational school and getting a cyber security cert or maybe an avionics technician...etc

I don't want to be jewed out of 20k just to get a bachelors of math just to end up working at starbucks

>>10680799
A lot of them are computer science/statistics/physics/engineering majors as well. A bachelors in math won’t get you very far in terms of jobs unless you have a very high GPA and a ton of experience imo. If money is what you want I’d major in comp sci

>>10680829
Should I just go for accounting then? It's a lot safer and more straightforward as I won't have to worry that I'll end up working at a McDonalds or something.

I fear that most of the jobs will be replaced in accounting though

>>10680855
I've got better advice: don't take advice from 4chan

>>10680869
This is only one of the sources I'm look at, of course I won't blindly take advice from NEETs on a Bangladesh shark hunting forum.

There is always some occasion golden nuggets that some anons have to say though

>>10680819
>I'm thinking of honestly just going to somevocational school and getting a cyber security cert or maybe an avionics technician...etc
You'd be far more employable than the average bachelor's in math. Not even memeing.
Math is a dead end degree. Don't repeat the mistake so many on /sci/ have made unless you really want to be a teacher.

>>10680917
>math is a dead end
I wouldn't say that. But unless you're really expectional you're not going to become a quant or actually use your math degree. It's better to just get certs or do HVAC or nursing or cyber sec

>>10680799
Just major in what you love, this board is fucking autistic and sociopathic. Clearly most here only value high-paying salaries.

based

>any job u want
You forgot that a PhD in math does not ready you for a position as an experimental physicist you dim-witted monkey moron

Learn your place fear corroded ape an experiment began before the mathematical proof to explain it neanderthal

>>10680704
I'd take it over IQ threads.

Is it a bad idea to get a undergrad math degree with a minor in cs and then take a master in cs? Is it even possible? or do you need a full cs degree?

>>10681041
No dude at least IQ threads can talk about specific puzzles a math major is just some retarded person rubbing their dick I do not have any f****** clue how this meme started but tonight I'm killing myself and you're going to need a physicist to clean up the body

>>10680724
Didn't that guy commit suicide?

>EBT in SNAP benefits
>any non-prepared foodstuffs I want
>$300 a month starting

>in it for the money

>>10681088
why else would you be in it, lol

>>10681091
the love of math

>>10681120
You don't need a degree to love math then. Just study it yourself

>>10681120
lmfao

I'm finishing my undergrad in mathematics this year and to be quite honest it has been a great experience. I have changed so much these past 4 years but I think that if I was given the chance to go back in time I'd still study math. It's very comfy.

>>10681066
What IQ threads are you visiting lmao. Imagine high IQs posting in IQ threads

>>10680701
cope

>>10680704
Not if you can design complex algorithms. Companies and research labs will be begging you to join them.

>>10681317
Not that guy but you sound quite ignorant. First, what you just mentioned is incredibly vague which is why I question your knowledge. Second, no one will be begging you to join them because every day they get 100 new applications from 100 different "geniuses".

>>10680740
seething

>>10680704
how can you believe in evolution if it is just a theory (a geuss)?

>>10681130
Do you think you'll say the same when you start your first day working at starbucks?

>>10681416
I don't know if I'll even have time to talk if I'm hired as regional manager of Starbucks but thanks for the words of encouragement.

>>10681122
Without a degree what will you have to show people when you brag about how good at maths you are?

This board turned on math degrees real quick. I remember 5 months ago everyone here respected it as a major. Engineers and tech cunts need to fuck off

>>10681547
lol no they didn't

>>10680701
and

>>10681336
Most 'good jobs' at that level are not obtained via applications. The company I work at now has a careers@ email address where people can submit their resumes. But I don't think we've ever hired a guy from that. It's almost always done through referrals and internal recruiters.

>>10681426
Proofs.

>>10681603
If you get published without a degree or academic connections that would be mildly amusing. If by "proofs" you mean that you'll write vixra articles using your liquid shit like the schizo poster then that's just concerning.

>>10680740

>>10680745
>>10680748
>>10680800
>>10681366
>>10682545
Look at all these mad engiefags
What's it like being too dumb to study math or physics?

>>10681547
seethe

>>10681022
Yeah but what if you end up in a job doing something completely different AND low-paying? That's the most likely scenario nowadays since academic positions are so few and far between

>>10681031
>experimental physicist
Who the fuck would want that in the first place?
Theory or nothing

>>10681073
>>10680724
Looks already dead to me

>>10680704
>6 years
and pepe and wojak are 11 and 9 years old, but memetourists still keep spouting them

>>10680799
It is possible, but only if you get your PhD in math from an Ivy league school and then find related/relevant work in finance.

>>10682706
>only if you get your PhD in math
What if it's only a regular undegrad math degree from a regular Canadian university?

>>10683190
>canadian
check the leaf equivalent of the bureau of labor statistics

>>10681073
>He had just finished a PhD in Physics and was qualified as an engineer. At 31 the only job he was able to find was at a call center and he took his own life by jumping off a building.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304096/Graduate-physics-PhD-31-fell-death-block-flats-taking-job-centre-qualified-for.html

>>10683391
I'll take a look at his publications when I have the time. But I suspect he wasn't that good and there are a lot of PhDs in industry right now competing for jobs. You really have to find a way to stand out in our hypercompetitive world.

>>10680799
math is a huge meme. you wont make it unless you publish and take graduate courses as an undergrad. I think that worldwide there are less than 30 people who have gone from community college to getting a phd in math. the odds are against you.

>>10683537
>at his publications
Maybe I'm really bad at looking but I can't find any, doesn't help physics has a much more famous Philip Elliot

>>10680969
>or do HVAC
Are we talking about actual HVAC or mech engineering?

>>10681065

You should see your schools academic advising office and rely on 4chan to determine your future.

>>10680704
> 6 years
once the grad student who keeps posting this is finished

>>10680701
y-you're just fuckin with me.... right?

>>10682632
>that feel when code monkey brogrammers make more than you ten years in advance.

>>10683871
nice kym filename

>>10681065
it depends on your school, the local job environment, and how applicable your degree is to other fields.
The "STEM shortage" that everyone was talking about 6-7 years ago was just a myth given that most people with STEM degrees work outside of what they majored in anyways, and this is despite how restrictive credentialism can be.

>>10683901
are you jewish?

>>10680701
Okay, but how much do you have in debt and how are you going to pay that back?

>>10680704
Never because it’s true

>>10680701
Yeah uh... Can I get fries with that?

>PhD in STEM
>any call center job I want
>one helium tank starting

>>10680855
Accounting is a bad idea for the very reason you mentioned.

>>10681120
lol

>>10681547
>seething math major
Cry me a river.

>>10680855
>>10685967
While "robots automating half of jobs in 30 years" was an overestimate, its expected that about 9% of jobs will be in the near future and accountancy probably is fairly easy to automate.

>>10680829
Frankly you don't even need a CS degree to work as a programmer, but math usually goes well with most other STEM degrees.

>>10685967
Then what's a good major to pick?

>>10686128
Depends on what you're capable of and what the job market near you is like. If you can do a math major, you'll be fine w/r to job prospects but only if you double it up with something else.

>>10680701
You're quite delusional.

>>10680701

RULE NO. 1
never accept the meme opinions on any board on 4chan. Infact, do the opposite what is common wisdom on here.

To answer your question:
A math degree is a general, 'Jack of all trades' degree. If you are confident you can score a 3.5+ GPA as a math major then you are set for life. You'll be able to Chad your way past most STEM majors.

If you don't think you can score that high a GPA then you will end up an underemployed wage slave. Pick a specialized area instead.

/thread

>>10680704
It will die the second nobody needs me to do their taxes for them.

>>10686203
Please don't listen to this actual retard anon
No one wants a worthless mathtard as an employee, and anything less than a 3.95 GPA is dogshit and won't get you anywhere
There is no such thing as a "jack of all trades degree"
Employers want specialized people, not retards that can do a little bit of everything

>>10686203
>>10686142
>taking the meme seriously
hownew.ru

Math majors are useless unless you want to teach, they make really good minors for pretty much every stem subject though

>>10680701
Based and Math pilled

>>10687799
everything in pic is brainlet math

>>10687808

>>10687808
I know.
just as in this meme.

>>10687808
Do you want some Lagrangian mechanics's Partial Differential Equations instead dear /sci/ fag?

>>10687808
Have you read all these books yet?

If not you can't say anything.

>>10680701
>plumber
>no loans
>making 180K in tri-state area

Have fun catching up.

>>10680704
>Lol this 300k math meme has been here for like 6 years
Way longer than that even.

>>10687873
>>/sci/thread/S1157950

>>10687872
Must be fun wading in shit all day, crawling around in industrial basements brushing against pipes lagged with crumbling asbestos, having lively intellectual debate with blue collar peers, gaining entry into a protectionist fiefdom of Teamsters and barriers to entry par with being an MD, and...did I mention swimming in the river of shit in the crawlspace under welfare people who left it to ferment for half a year?

How could anyone hope to "catch up" with such a glorious profession?

>>10683537
>Officers decided not to try and talk Dr Elliott down as it would have been dangerous to them and to him.

>>10683537
>>10683391
>>10681073
>>10680724
uhh, but you can get a respectable job as an engineer or developer at large companies and even research opportunities in AI and etc. if you're not a complete autistic loser

I struggle to comprehend how the fuck a moron who completed a PhD in a western country couldn't find anything better than call centre

even though you can get a job in functional programming and get paid quite well, without a fucking college diploma, for fuck's sake, this is what it means to be autistic and unilateral---you end up with a PhD (you're an exceptional guy in some areas) but you're so fucking retarded in other ways that you can't wipe your ass and just die, and end up worse than the average moron does when he does online courses and gets a job in webdev lmao

>>10688007

Because the market is flooded. I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of PhDs are underemployed, because the U.S is simply producing far, far more PhDs than there is demand for. Also
>Being proud of being a 95 I code monkey

Kek

>>10680701
>any job I want
Bullshit, they won’t let you be a lawyer or surgeon with a Math degree.

>>10688112
haha

>>10680704
Memes never die anon. They just fall out of fashion for a while until newfags rediscover them.

>>10680701
doubt.

>>10687865
how is analysis on manifolds categorized as medium level? I'm sure most students are exposed to real analysis before learning about manifolds in such depth.

>>10689336
.

>>10688007
> western country
Some western countries more than others due to economies of scale.
STEM PhD in the US, particularly if you live near large urban areas? Your probably alright
Some tiny yuropoor country that probably filled its PhD positions by causing a braindrain in other EU member states via the Eurozone? Your gonna have a harder time

>>10689338
you too

>decade old copypasta gets 100+ replies
the absolute state of this board

>>10689353
>Geometric Langlands
lol brother or sister...

>>10689364
Do you seriously not know how many newfags are here these days? We got a lot of fresh meat; it's time to put them through the canonical /sci/ academy

>>10688007
>uhh, but you can get a respectable job as an engineer or developer at large companies and even research opportunities in AI and etc
No. You can't. This type of vague bullshit is what lures naive people into doing PhDs in useless subjects (physics) because it's STEM and "you can get a job easily designing outerspace anal propulsion systems cause you're doing liek science and companies need smart people like you!". There are tons of idiots like call centre guy who fell for this meme.

>>10689364
>>10689384
This. despite always being one of 4chan's smaller boards, there are a lot of new people here.

>>10680855
If you don’t know what to do, pick something and do it rather than sitting around undecided. And accounting has got to be one of the best majors to default to

>>10680704
I was just going to say that. It's been here since I started using 4chan in 2013 and hasn't even adjusted for inflation in that time. It should easily be 400K starting.

>>10689444
Inflation puts it at closer to 330k

>>10681398
holy shit, I've been looking for this. thanks.

>make a classic thread for fun
>abandon it
>come back, 120 replies
dark times

>dropped out, 2 of 4 years of CS degree
>any job I want
>300k starting

>>10683190
nah dude, you need the PhD. the whole point is that when the engineers get some crazy math problem that 20 of them can't figure out, then they hire you to do it.

you'll only have work for like 3-4 months of the year, but it will be 100K a pop for each solution you provide.

without the PhD, you are useless. you need to bring something special to the table that a team of top chemists, materials/mechanical engineers and physicists don't have.

>>10683190
Math only comes into its own when you're really deeply into it because at that point you're very specialized and have expertise that other people don't.

Guys, help. I think I enjoy math. Are you guys saying it's just a meme that I can make good money off of it?

The problem is a lot of maths students have bad communication skills and so struggle in job interviews (there is some truth in the nerd stereotype). If you're a normal functioning person with a maths degree you should have no problem

Even if your too retarded to get headhunted into finance, why don't math PhDs research optimization or modelling and make bank solving those types of problems, or is that more CS?

>>10690604
A handful actually do that, its the niche case that forms the basis of 300k starting meme.

>>10680705
Really the best possible thing is maths professor, and consultant for law enforcement.

>>10683577
>I think that worldwide there are less than 30 people who have gone from community college to getting a phd in math
That doesn't sound right, source?

>>10681091
The girls

>>10690684
Yeah this is bullshit. It is actually quite easy to get a PhD.

>>10690684
>>10690702
Our old friend Piper got a math PhD from Princeton with a BA in French and a laughable thesis - in addition to being older.

>>10690812
>Piper Harron
Reminder to /sci/ that Piper Harron is real & not just a meme:

https://www.theliberatedmathematician.com/
Prof: Piper H
>Affiliation: University of Hawaii at Manoa
>Interests: intersectional feminism, Number Theory, anti-racism, humanizing mathematics, etc.

https://math.hawaii.edu/~paharron/

Not sure if I should laugh or feel sad about the state of math education in USA.