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10679814 No.10679814 [Reply] [Original]

it seems like such an impossible task to get the world to even consider the changes that would be needed to get emissions below acceptable levels, I feel like it would be a better use of resources to invest in tech that will help mitigate the effects of a warming climate. All types of things, like large seawall and water irrigation tech, carbon sequestering, even artificial food sources (lab grown meat and enclosed crop growing).

>> No.10679818

Global warming is a meme

>> No.10679848

>I feel like it would be a better use of resources to invest in tech that will help mitigate the effects of a warming climate.
can you name a single environmental disaster to date where cleanup and mitigation was cheaper than avoidance?

>> No.10679854
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>>10679814
yes you are right.
cyclones are hardly getting any more energetic because the temperature differential between the poles and the equator is actually decreasing imo.
So the negatives arent all that extreme and unadressable.
Europe is only going to see between 2 and 4 meter sea level rise because of the changing of the geoid when greenland melts (so lower than the 7 m average)
Antartica is stable, trees grow faster, there is more landmass north so total areable landmass increases with global warming, etc, etc.

Lets have a nice warm climate with between 600-900 ppm and grow twice as many crops as we do now, have less people die from cold winters and build a couple of sea barriers.

>> No.10679898

>>10679818
based, libtards btfo.

>> No.10679986

>>10679848
no, but I can name lots of environmental disasters where avoidance was impossible, so whether it would have been cheaper or not is meaningless.
And it seems like getting emissions below spec within a few decades like it needs to be is nigh impossible

>> No.10680017
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>>10679814
>reduce muh emissions
What you're asking for is war with China. Because Chang doesn't give a flying fuck about your limpdicked baizuo handwringing, he's tooling up his heavy industry with coal-guzzling, SO2-belching tank factories manned by teeming hives of commie nongmins.

The clock is ticking, gweilo, what's it gonna be? Your precious "emissions"? Or another ten-twenty years of world peace?

>> No.10680027

>>10680017
>Chang doesn't give a flying fuck about your limpdicked baizuo handwringing
And Chang's fascist overlords are telling him the exact same thing about us... imagine that

>> No.10680034

>>10680017
>Or another ten-twenty years of world peace?
So you admit that your policy is just buying time - stalling the inevitable, which will be that much worse when it finally arrives because of that stalling?

>> No.10680044

>>10679854
If future generations know about the biodiversity we threw away, they will spit on our graves and cry...

>> No.10680052

>>10679854
>>10680044
Or maybe not. Probably your descendants will find a convenient scapegoat to blame.

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I will start to care about anthropogenic climate change when leftists start to care about semitogenic population change. Not a second sooner.

>> No.10680084

>>10679854
>when greenland melts
When the Greenland ice sheet starts to seriously collapse, massive tsunamis that threaten Europe and the North Atlantic will happen on a regular basis.

>> No.10680090

>>10680017
China has actually been expanding renewable and nuclear adoption and research much faster than the US. They're also pushing for mass adoption of electric vehicles and public transportation. Looking at per capita emissions they emit less than half of the US. Not to mention the biggest polluters in china are contracted to western companies to sell products to foreign markets. The US is the bigger problem, and if we fix the US we can actually hit china with carbon tariffs on goods etc.

>> No.10680098

>>10680090
>Not to mention the biggest polluters in china are contracted to western companies to sell products to foreign markets. The US is the bigger problem, and if we fix the US we can actually hit china with carbon tariffs on goods etc.
This is the only point you made that isn't moot.

>> No.10680110

>>10679814
No, the only way to survive and not live like cockroaches is increase emissions by a factor of 10. Remove all human rights and regulations, build several arcologies and millions of vertical farms to have the survivors live and work in. Next step would be to get into space ASAP and build orbital biomass farms.

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>>10680052
>Probably your descendants will find a convenient scapegoat to blame.
If present trends are anything to go by, yes, yes they will.

>> No.10680620

>>10679854
This, global warming is actually pretty good
apple crops in Poland continue to expand due to it