/sci/ - Science & Math

Starcraft (any of them).

Flight simulators

>>10663456
the game that shan't be named is not /sci/ approved. Don't support mexican scam artists. Support full n-body simulation, radiators, component building autism, and space dildos. Play Children of a Dead Earth instead. Orbiter is fun too. Of course you should realize that playing videogames is a waste of time. Although I must say, ChoDE is interesting for exploring some aspects of space warfare.
>>10663464
It's one of the biggest problems in computer science right now. First computers beat chess, then go, starcraft is next. It's a continuous Partially Observable Markov Decision Process. Computers are not good at solving POMDPs. Progress in Starcraft AI is worth following as autonomous building clearing and swat operations can and have been formulated as a POMDP. Terrence Tao has been confirmed to play Starcraft. He regrets it.

KSP could have been so much better than it turned out to be

>>10663475
What opportunities do you think were missed?

>>10663456

watches videos about KSP for months on YouTube
finally decide to buy it

one day later I see this
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/ksp.html

>>10663472
>He regrets it.
I do too.

>>10663456
>What are some /sci/ approved video games?
None of them. Also, not science or math

>>10663496
realistic solar system, realistic graphics

it is the same shit like minecraft, great gameplay concept being dragged down by targeting literal children

>>10663552
>realistic solar system
What you mean the actual real life solar system should have been the ingame universe? What's the point of that? If they had done that, each mission would take about 10 times as long, meaning you would mostly just sit around and wait, why would you want that?
>realistic graphics
That's completely irrelevant to the gameplay
>targeting literal children
Lmao what? The game is a simulator that requires careful planning, I can hardly imagine a 10 year old having a lot of fun with it.

Space Engine

>>10663545
Sad!

>>10663456
>What are some /sci/ approved video games?
Pure mathematics

>>10663574
>What you mean the actual real life solar system should have been the ingame universe? What's the point of that? If they had done that, each mission would take about 10 times as long, meaning you would mostly just sit around and wait, why would you want that?

you know you can speed up time in ksp

>>10663552
But the scaled down fictional system and the somewhat cartoonish look is part of the charm in KSP. Remove that and instead try to go for maximum realism, and it becomes just another realistic flight sim.

>>10663761
Not enough to make it worth it to use realistic celestial body sizes. Even at 4x speed just leaving the planet would take 20 minutes. Speeding up even more would be too resource-intensive for the computer and would make it bug out like hell

>>10663456
Ero eater.

Minecraft

>>10663456
https://testtubegames.com/velocityraptor.html

>>10663868
Except there's a mod that literally does it, look up RSS.

Are there any games similar but perhaps more preferable to spore out there?

>19 replies
>no factorio
literally perfect game
don't play it

Automation

>>10663456
Fortnite

>>10663496
More detailed terrains would have been nice

>>10663472
>It's one of the biggest problems in computer science right now. First computers beat chess, then go, starcraft is next. It's a continuous Partially Observable Markov Decision Process. Computers are not good at solving POMDPs. Progress in Starcraft AI is worth following as autonomous building clearing and swat operations can and have been formulated as a POMDP. Terrence Tao has been confirmed to play Starcraft. He regrets it.

Writing an AI that is good at starcraft is actually easier than one that is good at Chess because being good at Starcraft doesn't actually require intelligence, it's mechanical Tasks almost exclusively. There are Micro-bots that can beat any human out there since decades.

>>10663545
Maybe one day they'll let you do it for free

Sandbox universe is a must have

>>10663912
Is that a computer?

>>10663456

Poly bridge is neat

>>10665618
yes the jews pay me to call gamers retarded on the science and math board of a ukrainan donkey riding forum

>>10663472
see
>>10665617

starcraft does provide a novel opportunity for AI or machine learning but people prescribe a lot more depth to the game than it actually has. or, at least, more strategic depth.

starcraft heavily favors quick execution and micromanagement, and does not favor long term planning beyond basic branching. it's about using the same strategy over and over again and becoming very good at executing it, and understanding what you need to do to slightly change it to counter opponent strategies

it's by far my least favorite RTS because it's not about strategy, it's about tactics, and its mostly metagaming rather than determining what you need to do on a per-game basis.

>>10663500
They removed it.

>>10663464
I bought the 2nd one a week ago and it made me realise how fucking slow I am

>>10663456
Myst and Riven

Universe Sandbox

My list (not in any particular order):
Paradox games
Starcraft
Dwarf fortress
Factorio
Minecraft
Deus ex & Deus ex hr (sci tier for the story/aesthetics, not gameplay)
Terraria maybe? (It has some pretty cool logic components to play with)

>>10663916
That's a cool one

>>10665644
What are some RTS you like then?

What about Civ VI?

>>10665639
>He does it for free
Retard

>>10665617
That's retarded you can say the same about chess, that's all memorized tactics and openings since it's solved with deep learning as well.

Of course that in the mechanical parts the AI is better, you're right about that, that's why the official alphastar matches were kind of dumb

>>10663456
Doom

touhou

>>10663456
Jumpstart or Math Blasters

>>10663868
>Not enough to make it worth it to use realistic celestial body sizes. Even at 4x speed just leaving the planet would take 20 minutes. Speeding up even more would be too resource-intensive for the computer and would make it bug out like hell
T. Filtered before orbit

did any of you guys ever do Garry's Mod?
I was obsessed with it for a while in high school. that's actually where I first learned a form of coding

>>10663456
Touhou Project
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance
Garou: Mark of the Wolves

SpaceChem

>>10663912
Unironically how I began to love computer science.

Probably not autistic, but it's possible.

poop simulator 2016

>>10665639
>jews pay me
you win this round

>>10666267
Civ IV IVLyfe

>>10663912
This. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBQxxvuWYA

The endgame in minecraft is to make enourmous automated machines with just basic circuits and logic stacked on top of eachother.

>>10667491
Based and mod-pilled.

>>10663456
clash of clans

What about fortresscraft?

>>10663464
Disgusting shit.

>>10666963
Oh right, that one was good. I remember trying to make different automated machines using wiremod, and failing every time. Should probably give it a try sometime

>>10663456
Orbiter is better.

>>10666963
Yeah but only do to weird space rp shit on my own because I’m autistic and could make a whole universe from a fucking pen on a tabletop. Maladaptive daydreaming is weird yo.

>>10666198
>paradox games
I will always appreciate stellaris for teaching me patience and dedication, as that’s what it fucking takes when you have an 11 page long workshop mod list and one of the starts crashing your game and you’ve got to go through each one turning it back on and starting a new game, playing it a bit and seeing if it crashes until you find the mod breaking your game.
Fucking paradox. Make a game that’s feature complete on release, you goddamn kikes. Then I won’t have to have 100 mods to make it fun.

>>10663472
>Terrence Tao has been confirmed to play Starcraft. He regrets it.
Why? because of all the wated time he sunk into it?

>>10663496
An actual carier mode where you explore random solar system and gather useful science data about new bodies. Like height of the atmosphere, temp, pressure. And then you build landers that can survive this particular environment. And after bringing back samples you discover how usefull it is. So you start mining and with that you are able to build special parts.
(right now science has no meaning, it's just points)

AI competition - a couple of agencies competing who gets there first.
Random events - for example megastorms on planets, reusability rage, probability of life on Planet X - go check.
All that in the form of newspaper news.

Random endgame goal - creating an interstellar spacecraft, colonizing another planet, building a city in space...

In stock procedural tanks, life support, starting unmanned, alarm, transfer planner, coloring your parts.

>>10663896
Good call. I've only played Infinifactory though, need to get to the other zachtronics

>>10663456
I dl it after seeing this thread. took me 2 hours to figure out you have to force dx11 for it to work and for some reason I kept going only to find out it has one of the worst building systems I've ever seen. Especially for something where aerodynamics play a factor. You spend most of your time trying to get stuff to go in the right spot than actually playing the game.
4/10 would not bang again.

>>10663585
based

Alpha Centauri

>>10669850
Best civ

>>10663456
half life

Street fighter 3 third strike.

>>10666963
Yeah I liked that shit, discovered it with sandbox and wiremod, I also played TTT and darkRP, that game was funny.
I haven't played it in these modes for a long time since I have to download terabytes of retarded data to join a server.

>>10666267
It took me a bit to enjoy it, it takes more planning and forward thinking when it comes to cities, I like the new expansion, putting some risk vs reward to it. My one knock against it is that over half the wonders are shit or have some ridiculous requirements and that religious victory is a nuance. Korea is definitely the /sci/ approved civ in it.

>>10668662
I don't think the dev team could handle all that, maybe if the game was sold to a larger company and turned AAA, but usually that would make it shit

>>10669422
t. brainlet

Factorio for the autism
Stellaris is also very fun

>>10665631
holy shit the memories

>>10663825
>and it becomes just another realistic flight sim
you mean the only one?

>>10670304
Based

what do we think of no mans sky? just started, put like 4 hours into it so far

>>10671135
How about you try some games that require above room-temperature IQ like EU4?

Civ is for fucking teenagers who play it until they realize it's--wait, this is 4chan.

>>10669422
It gets quicker and easier when you know some keyboard shortcuts

KSP is great but it lacks a truly thought out career mode (and tech tree to match) to drive meaningful moments and rewarding gameplay. Rather than taking a satisfying path through the tech tree to achieve some well thought out milestones you spend ages walking around KSC trying to grind maximum research so you can jump far enough in the tech tree to skip to the infinitely more rewarding biomes out in space, feels nothing like any form of challenging career

>>10663896
>>10667491
Mah niggas

>>10663472
>Progress in Starcraft AI is worth following as autonomous building clearing and swat operations can and have been formulated as a POMDP.
Ah yes, the POMDP retard

>>10663456
minecraft tech modpacks

>>10665631
my childhood game, i played it last year and i finished it in single session. i remember not even understanding the purpose of this game

i wish i could still play games but i get so bored of them so quickly.

Portal 1&2

Shenzhen I/O if you want to get familiar somewhat with assembly.

>>10663456
pikmin

>>10667485

>>10672477
>we
there is no we, you have committed a cardinal sin
I sentence you to two days lurking without posting

that said, nms is a stuttering mess

>>10665639
can't be to careful

>>10663456
biko 3

>>10666267
>What about Civ VI?
for babies, check out this

Seconding on CHOADE

>>10663552
There are mods for that you dip

>>10663574
There are mods for real solar system and they make the game way more fun by increasing difficulty.
Do you unironically play baby sim stock ksp?

>>10672278
What dev team?

>>10672678
>It gets quicker and easier when you know some keyboard shortcuts
Yup, but tedious nevertheless. My shielded docking port can't be connected while building a rocket. Wut? Why the hell tanks and wings aren't procedural? Instead there is all that junk that doesn't fit anyway.

>KSP is great but it lacks a truly thought out career mode
Second part of the sentence is true.

>>10673886
your country is fucked, m8

>>10665644
Someone should build an AI that can play Stellaris.

>>10663552
I enjoy it for what it is. It's the only game where I can build working satellite networks and assemble station modules in a relatively believable way. Orbiter is the better sim but Kerbal is actually enjoyable. But it's not really a learning tool beyond teaching the very basics of orbital mechanics to children, and there's nothing wrong with that. Getting mad at a children's game is like getting mad at the Pokemon company for making the game child like. It's not for you, just enjoy it or don't play it.

>>10672278
You know that T2 has purchased KSP a year ago, right?

skyrim or any elder elder scrolls game you got

any souls game

I'm liking this sekiro game I just got it and is a really fun challenge from other souls games.

Monster hunter generations is ok but 4u was better. world is trash

your video games dont have to be about science or maths dude. Otherwise I would jerk off to a deepfake of leibniz kissing euler while they pound tibees, and they are all doing math shit. I'll nut when I see QED

>>10674461
angry /kspg/ bestiality poster detected

>>10665735
Who removed what?

>>10663456
Worldlines
https://sourceforge.net/projects/worldlines/

Inspired by John Titor's claims, paranoic or not, the game looks cool anyways.

>>10676440
Brainlet

>>10677488
*math major

so probably. but at least im not into shooter games. and fuck you souls games are fuckign cool.

>>10677679
>>>/vg/egg/

>>10666145
But sc2 is free?

>>10672507
>EU4

>>10663472
They already made an AI that can beat one of the pro's in a mirror 1v1 it was pretty popular on YouTube I think you can find it by looking it up.

>>10665644
Found the virgin, sc2 is about risk assesment and map awarness. Having a high apm is just an entry requirement, I've played on korean servers and beaten players with 300 more apm than me because they can't hold objectives. Anyone who thinks the game is hard just because you need to micromanage things is a brainlet

>>10663456
star citizen

>>10677720
Oh yeah, I didn't know that. I saw campaign pack was on sale, thought this might be as good of a time to get into the game as there ever will be, and then found out that multiplayer was free
Whatever, for a price like that I ain't complaining. I'll try the campaign sometime later

Simplerockets 2 is good. Basically KSP but it is arguably more complex in places.

>>10677987
Carier mode?

>>10663912
anything below GT New Horizons is just sad.

>>10674461
There are mods for procedural parts

>>10674477
Second this.