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https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/05/transgender-kids-brains-resemble-gender-identity-not-biological-sex/?fbclid=IwAR2bNaj9LwURsTN7LJMU1JkJbYAYf5Dum4gsmf0vzOJB2KBoYHHYt1l5bxQ

>> No.10671179

>gender and sex are not the same thing!
>but we absolutely must force them to line up and rigidly conform to the point of mutilating people
barbarians

>> No.10671186

so what? who gives a shit

>> No.10671191

>>10671173
I'm so fucking tired of this clown world bullshit.

>> No.10671194

>>10671173
>neuroscience
>G-guys, [mental phenomenon] happens here, oyu see, w-we are science
Literally same as Reichian sciences, complete bullshit which amounts to nothing. Gender/sex are very complex and there is a reason why troons want to pass and have huge suicide rate, and it is not their fucking brain structure on shitty scans.

>> No.10671207

>>10671173
That s why electroshocks are so effective

>> No.10671208

>>10671173
There's nothing new nor controversial about this. People who suffer from gender dysphoria genuinely have a neurological deviation that causes them to feel like the opposite sex.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01542620

What's rustles my jimmies is all these sexually confused Tumblrites who claim to be genderfluid or nonbinary or identify as a magical dragon and demand to be addressed as xe/xir. Unlike gender dysphyria, there's nothing scientific about that. It's a fashion decision and should not warrant special treatment.

>> No.10671210 [DELETED] 

>>10671173
I look forward to the lawsuits that are coming in 15 years. These Jew doctors are going to be running for the hills

>> No.10671211

>the female and male brains myth
ugh! begone with your sexism, scum

>> No.10671215

>>10671208
>What's rustles my jimmies is all these sexually confused Tumblrites who claim to be genderfluid or nonbinary or identify as a magical dragon and demand to be addressed as xe/xir

you do realise these poeple dont exist. they exist only on tumblr. its just incel retards blowing up and making every trasngender person appear like this. just how <10% of all women identify as feminists.

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>>10671173
(((new studies)))

>> No.10671225

>>10671173
GET THESE KIDS ON HORMONES RIGHT NOW

>> No.10671227

>>10671208
Dear friend, being of a given sex does not produce any feelings or thoughts unrelated to the actual fact of being that particular sex, therefore someone of a given sex cannot "feel like the opposite sex", nor would they be in a position to be able to assess accurately whether their mental state is actually consistent with that of a member of the opposite sex whose cognitive experience is inaccessible to them. Thus there is no difference between the "tumblrites" you decry and others who believe in a priori metaphysical concepts like "gender identity" that have no basis in reality. Thank you so much.

>> No.10671307

>>10671208
/thread

>> No.10671316

>>10671173

genetic engineering, brainfucked by technology.

just because it can be found in the brain doesn't mean it isn't the result of shenanigans.

DNA also, : homes filled with tek and facebook accounts more likely to contract said virus : subconscious input 24-7 : inc in the womb.

>> No.10671341

>>10671173
...Doesn't make it normal or a disease. (I personally think that a human is designed to reproduce with another human from the opposite sex)

>> No.10671436

>>10671173
>lgbtqnation.com
No bias here.

>> No.10671489

>>10671173
Even if structural differences are truly present without statistical creativity and other shenanigans as we expect from psychologists masquerading as neuroscientists, you are going to have to rule out the possibility that said group differences are not the result of hormones. So far, I have seen not a single study able to do this.

>> No.10671590

>>10671173
>lgbtqnation.com
links to
>telegraph.co.uk
links to nothing, and doesn't even specify where (or if) the study was published.

So basically, all we have is a newspaper/website, and no original sources. And newspapers/websites are often intellectually dishonest about the actual results of a study, especially when the study's results align with their politics.

They also have not explained in any detail how the brains of transgender persons resembled the brains of their mental identity.

>>10671208
>People who suffer from gender dysphoria genuinely have a neurological deviation that causes them to feel like the opposite sex.
Correlation does not imply causation.

Obviously, it's not implausible that having a smaller/larger corpus callosum would cause a person to identify as a male/female. However, it is unreasonable to assume that just because a correlation exists, causation must exist.

>> No.10671614

>>10671173
So they admit that females and males have different brains

>> No.10671720

>>10671173
>Transgender kids
Am I the only one who thinks that the headline itself already manages to be unethical?

>> No.10671722

>>10671173
The studies have some issues though
For example, the vast majority of brains were indistinguishable whether male or female. Only outliers could be distinguished
We need more studies before we can say anything like what that article claims

>> No.10671731

>>10671208
How does a gender feel?

>> No.10671737

>>10671722
just because we can't look at a brain and determine its gender doesnt mean their arent differences

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>>10671215
>incels

>> No.10672036

>>10671737
Of course not. But it makes it a hell of a lot less likely.

>> No.10672182

How can their brains think like a certain gender when gender doesn't exist? Does this mean that sex is tied to the brain?

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>>10671173
>lgbtqnation.com
You don't actually expect anyone to take this seriously?

>> No.10672287

let's just drop the pretense and admit that sex is overwhelmingly related to gender, and that trannies are freaks of nature

>> No.10672376

lol. brain scans are the biggest scam ever

>> No.10672403

>>10672182
No, gender is.

>>10672205
>Attacking the news article and not the studies

>>10672287
Wrong. Trans animals exist in nature.

>> No.10672406

>>10671191
Back to /pol/.

>> No.10672407

>>10671210
Back to /pol/.

>>10671216
Back to /pol/

>> No.10672414

>>10672403
>>10672406
>>10672407
Samefag

>> No.10672418

>>10671590
>links to nothing, and doesn't even specify where (or if) the study was published.

Literally five seconds

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180524112351.htm

>> No.10672419

>>10671173
So men and women have different brains?

>> No.10672423

>>10672414
Congrats onpointing out something obvious to everyone with a human brain.

>> No.10672429

>facts don't care about your feelings
>wait no not these facts dammit
>it... it wasn't supposed to be like this!

>> No.10672433

>>10672423
As you yourself pointed out, it wasn't obvious for women. I did it for them

>> No.10672438

>>10672429
It’s really disappointing that the edgy catchphrase of a Zionist 30 year old boomer became a meme.

>> No.10672447

>>10672403
>>10672406
>>10672407
>>10672423
>>10672429
Samefag

>> No.10672458

>>10672447
No, last one is someone else. Good try though.

>> No.10672469

>>10672458
Good enough for me

>> No.10672482

There is only 1 gender and once the revolution happens there will be zero reason to not redistribute the wealth. Women are included in this.

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>>10672403
>>10672406
>>10672407
B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-based
>>10672414
>>10672447
kys

>> No.10672486

>>10672484
>Kys
Y?

>> No.10672495
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What do /pol/tards say about this?

>> No.10672498

>>10672486
I actually don't want you to kill yourself, anon. Sorry.

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>>10672406
>>10672407
Back to /lgbt/.
Your kind is just as cancerous as /pol/tards, if not worse.

>> No.10672506

>>10672495
What does /pol/ have to do with anything? Or that thing you posted as well? This thread is about brain structure of people, not about anyone's faggy politics or transgender transitioning facts

>> No.10672510

>>10672503
Nah, staying here. Sorry if that upsets you, but idc what makes you start seething.

>> No.10672529

>>10672506
There’s not very much to discuss, to be quite honest.
It can be summarized as : Human neuroanatomy is bimodal and clusters towards masculinity and femininity, with most people having neuroanatomy that is congruent with other sex characteristics and thus being cis and a minority of people having neuroanatomy that is incongruent, and this often manifests as being transgender. Theres’s nothing remarkable about this except to edgy teenagers and boomers.

>> No.10672601

>>10671173

Is this before or after brainwashing the kids when they do these 'studies'?

>> No.10672608

>>10671614
Lol. In Clown World logic is frowned upon. Get with the fucking program, leftism is the new religion of Globalism

>> No.10672612

>>10671720
This is the parents. This is child abuse in one of its most disturbing forms

>> No.10672613

>>10672608
Please relocate to your containment board. Ranting about globalism is off-topic.

>> No.10672616

>>10672612
Can you please explain how child abuse is taking place?

>> No.10672617

>>10672403
>Trans animals exist in nature
fucking kek, even if they did by your logic everything that happens in nature must also be good, amirite?

>> No.10672621

>>10672617
>fucking kek, even if they did by your logic everything that happens in nature must also be good, amirite?

Nope. Never claimed what was “natural” was “good” or “bad”. I only disputed the claim that being trans was a “freak of nature”.

Nice try though.

>> No.10672622

>>10672613
>>10672616
Has found "its" meaning and purpose

>> No.10672623

Women who have been molested's brains have different chemicals from unmolested women's brains, therefore women who have been molested were born to be molested.

>> No.10672626

>>10672623
What a weird false analogy.

>>10672622
Meaning and purpose don’t exist.

>> No.10672627

>>10672608
Religion needs to be illogical. By gaslighting its members it brainwashes them and controls them

>> No.10672635

>>10672626
Except it is emotionally motivating you in this thread isn't it? Meaning, purpose or escapism I guess. Good luck with that anger though

>> No.10672649

>>10672635
>Except it is emotionally motivating you in this thread isn't it?

I wouldn’t define chasing emotional hedonism as “meaning” or “purpose”,

>Good luck with that anger though

Don’t have any.

>> No.10672895

>>10672403
>Wrong. Trans animals exist in nature.
so do retards, paulsies, people with taysachs and every other conceivable genetic dead end.
what is your point?

>> No.10672906

>>10672895
That they exist in nature.
What’s your point?

>> No.10672909

>>10672906
i also said they are "freaks of nature" implying they exist, but are socially undesirable.
existence is not grounds for material support

>> No.10672916

>>10672909
>but are socially undesirable.

Wrong.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2106866-five-wild-lionesses-grow-a-mane-and-start-acting-like-males/

Why do you even bother trying to give your bigotry a sheen of pseudoscientific backing?

>> No.10672920

>>10672916
naxalt fallacy

>> No.10672924

>>10672920
Nope. Not present.

Why do you even bother trying to give your bigotry a sheen of pseudoscientific backing?

>> No.10672927

>>10672924
>Nope. Not present.
Yes it is.

>> No.10672933

>in this specific scenario concerning a pheromone the reaction of the brain was more similar to the other gender although not indiscernable from normal people
>therefore they have the same brain as the other gender
this is like saying that a bearded lady has the body of a man

>> No.10672940

>>10672927
>Yes it is.

Nope. You’re welcome to try and illustrate exactly where. I suspect you’ve confused the fallacy of division and the fallacy of composition.

>> No.10672943

>>10672909
holy shit you're retarded

>> No.10672947

>>10672940
you implied by your anecdote that trannies are socially desirable, when it is well known that the majority of them are socially incompatable, and of those who are socially incompatable, the majority of those remove themselves from society permanently altogether.

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>>10671173
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF0154262
>fMRI
>gender dysphoria

yeah, we can totally deduce biology morphology as a source of behavioral characteristics.

this shit gets cringier everyday

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>>10672943
pictured: a cartoon that is representative of you

>> No.10672954

>>10672933
>this is like saying that a bearded lady has the body of a man

There is so little we know about the brain and its workings and yet a certain agenda is being pushed on flimsy science without really knowing what it is we are seeing.

>Oh! there's a difference! Better mutilate the child then.

It reminds me of deep scanning AI which can see things in tissue sections/stained slides which trained specialists cannot and detect cancers and abnormalities with scarily high rates of accuracy - the only problem - we have no fucking clue what it is they are picking up on!

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daily reminder that /pol/ and SJWs are the same shit and both should be shot

>> No.10672992

>>10672947
>you implied by your anecdote that trannies are socially desirable, when it is well known that the majority of them are socially incompatable, and of those who are socially incompatable, the majority of those remove themselves from society permanently altogether.

That’d be a fallacy of composition, not a fallacy of division. Looks like my suspicion was correct.

>when it is well known that the majority of them are socially incompatable

What does that even mean and can you provide empirical data suggesting that this is
A. True.
B. Not due to social factors
?

>> No.10673000

why are /poll/tards so fucking stupid

>> No.10673010

>>10673000
>everyone who disagrees with my Jewish professor is a /pol/tard

>> No.10673016

>>10673000
It’s xenophobia common to children given its most vile and dangerous possible form.

>>10673010
>Jewish

Thanks for outing yourself already. God damn.

>> No.10673020

>>10672406
Are you willing to say that trans people have a visibly abnormal brain?

>> No.10673023

>>10672429
It's not a fact though. It's not a fact that trans men have noticeably different brains than biological men. This study did not prove anything to be fact.

>> No.10673028

>>10673000
I don't understand what /pol/ has to do with any of this. What is your argument? What is theirs? Why are you so obsessed?

>> No.10673031

I wonder what the health of these kids who are being used as guinea pigs will be like in the future. Pretty nuts that people are giving hormone injections to 10 year olds, but I guess this is the road society wants to take. Fuck it, lets go down this road and see what happens. See what kind of cancers and abnormalities come from drastically altering your hormones as a child. Should be interesting at least.

>> No.10673043

>>10673016
Worshipping themselves as god's "chosen people" for 5000 years in no possible way might contribute to their behavior. Getting kicked out out of every country around the world makes everyone anti-Semitic and in no way makes their self-worship anti-human or anything.

>> No.10673056

>>10673020
>Are you willing to say that trans people have a visibly abnormal brain?

It’s true, so yes.

>> No.10673060

>>10673056
How has this study proven that? Nothing I read in it has proven that to be fact. You realize that the results of a study are not always fact, yes? Post again when more studies are done that back up the findings of the posted study.

>> No.10673063

>>10673043
yikes. this guy sounds like some lunatic right-wing extremist

>> No.10673069

>>10673043
That's a misunderstanding what chosen people means. It's meant to be more of a burden than anything. Of course there are plenty of nationalistic but irreligious Jews who don't understand the distinction. Anyone who paid attention to the old testament is keenly aware of the flaws of the Hebrew people, including the Jews themselves. The degenerates in Hollywood etc have forgotten that.

>> No.10673070

>>10673060
>Nothing I read in it has proven that to be fact.

Wonder why you’re lying.

“Within these regions of interest representing sexually dimorphic brain structures, GM volumes of both GD groups deviated from the volumetric characteristics of their birth sex towards those of individuals sharing their gender identity. Furthermore, we found intermediate patterns in WM microstructure in adolescent boys with GD, but only sex-typical ones in adolescent girls with GD. These results on brain structure are thus partially in line with a sex-atypical differentiation of the brain during early development in individuals with GD, but might also suggest that other mechanisms are involved. Indeed, using resting state MRI, we observed GD-specific functional connectivity in the visual network in adolescent girls with GD. The latter is in support of a more recent hypothesis on alterations in brain networks important for own body perception and self-referential processing in individuals with GD.”

>You realize that the results of a study are not always fact, yes? Post again when more studies are done that back up the findings of the posted study.

There’s actually two that Julie Baker was involved in, which you’d know if you actually read.
Here’s an earlier paper, though
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27255307

>> No.10673145

>>10672916
Did you even read your own citation? They aren't trans. They have hormone problems. Do trans people simply have hormone problems too (besides the ones induced by butcher-doctors)? If that's the case, why not just treat the hormone problems rather than encourage delusion and mutilation?

>> No.10673155

>>10672627
Your retarded mishmash of slogans aside, religious people are the ones who are most resistent to leftist denials of reality. Atheist marxists gave us this bullshit, not fundies or whatever you neckbeards call religious people these days.

>> No.10673156

>>10673145
>Did you even read your own citation? They aren't trans. They have hormone problems.

Either you are EXTREMELY bad at reading, or you just made an incredibly obvious lie.

“A Review of the Status of Brain Structure Research in Transsexualism”

TRANSSEXUALISM
T R A N S S E X U A L I S M
T R A N S

“Transsexuals seek or have undergone a social transition from male to female (MtF) or female to male (FtM), a transition that in many, but not all, cases also involves a somatic transition by cross- sex hormone treatment and genital surgery”

It’s about trans people and HRT, not “people that aren’t trans with hormone problems”

Holy shit goddamn you can’t read or lied through your teeth.

>> No.10673162

>>10673145
Just gonna say you’re amazingly bad at reading or a lying retard again.

You’re amazingly bad at reading or a lying retard.

>> No.10673165

>>10671208

This.

>> No.10673175

>>10671215
How fucking retarded are you? People who post on Tumblr are people who exist in real life. If you've been on any college campus you'd know these people are plentiful

>> No.10673192

>>10672406
You’ll never be a real woman.

>> No.10673203

>>10673070
>2 studies confirms it
Seek help.

>> No.10673349

>>10672403
Gender is a social construct though

>> No.10673365

>>10672510
Oh shit shots fired boyos

>> No.10673370

>>10672608
Right-wing imperialist here. Globalism is good dumbass.

>> No.10673841

>>10671173
This is extremely important:
>The prepubertal children did not show any group differences in FC, suggesting that these emerge with aging and during puberty. Our findings provide evidence for the existence of both GD-specific and sex-atypical FC patterns in adolescents with GD.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453017305590

What this mean is that they learned something from their society/ parents.

Which when look at it on another perspective, one could say base on this study, gender dysphoria people shouldn't be allow to adopt children.

>> No.10675202

>>10673349
If this is the case then why is gender conversion therapy overwhelmingly regarded as a severe taboo?

>> No.10675204

>>10671207
Yikes what the fuck

>> No.10675210

Theres a hundred million dollar prize out for publishing research that affirms the Trans agenda.

Theres a carear risk in publishing research that denies it.

Science is not just science. Research exists in a web of grant funding, publishing, popular appeal, institutional support and governmental influence/funding.

>> No.10675784

Any one worried about confused Tom boys, etc getting hurt by this trans stuff?

>> No.10675790

>>10675784
No. Why would I be?

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>>10675790
Because trans stuff to me seems to be a ideology where if you don't fit in the stereotypes of your sex then you must change your body to me more like the opposite sex. Here is a pic pushed by mermaids, a charity for allegedly transgender children.

>> No.10675815

>>10671173
As would be expected from a hormonal glitch.

Note that this is entirely distinct from fapping to traps on 4chan until you self-inserted as the female role and now you want to try something because it SEEMS possible intuitively, but actually isn't because it's just plastic surgery and does not have the properties that would make it relevant to the fantasy.

>> No.10675816

>>10675807
I think that if the clear retards that delude themselves into thinking they fall anywhere close to the middle of the supposed spectrum get fooled into mutilating their own genitals to avoid any possible procreation and potentially just killing themselves to avoid all impact of the world is something great and should be encouraged.

The only thing better would be if we could just legally murder them. But I very much appreciate the high-level political maneuvering and social engineering that just drives them to castrate and kill themselves to avoid getting any blood on our hands. It is truly amazing.

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"Trust me it's not a fetish!"

>> No.10675830

>>10671173

>Males and females have measurably different brains.
SEXIST!
>Males and females have measurably equal brains.
TRANSPHOBE!

Which one is it?

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>>10675204
>yikes

>> No.10675849

>>10675807
>Because trans stuff to me seems to be a ideology where if you don't fit in the stereotypes of your sex then you must change your body to me more like the opposite sex.
It's really not, to the point where that's almost a "satanic panic" characterisation of it.
(Also, why does 4chan now sound like "concerned" suburban mums from 40 years ago? What happened?)

>Here is a pic pushed by mermaids, a charity for allegedly transgender children.
Mermaids were (necessarily) trying to simplify a complex issue, and they got criticised for the particular picture being an over-simplification. But even then, nothing in that picture is telling people to change their body to match serotypes - it's pretty clearly just trying to convey that gender identity isn't binary.

>> No.10675852

>>10675830
It's both.

Hate is not an argument.

>> No.10675856

>>10675852

What are you talking about? Did you quote the wrong post?

>> No.10675861

>>10675202
What do you mean?

>> No.10675866

>>10675202
Because it doesn't work, and has awful effects on the child.

>> No.10675876

>>10675856
No, that was the correct post. Hate is diversive; it can model any system. It's entirely possible for two distinct types of hate to fully encompass all categories of thing.

>> No.10675879

>>10675856
It's bait

>> No.10675881

>>10675879
This anon is exactly correct; when hate fully categorizes a system, that entire system becomes pure fuel for hatred, ie., bait.

Eternal hatred was always a possibility.

>> No.10675910

>>10671173
Not a bright person, however isn’t this something normal?
From my understanding neurons wire themselves according the person behavior, no thoughts. So saying the brain is evidence of anything is like pointing the effect as cause. The only way to prove this claim of gender discrepancy as fact is to find such result on Normal kids and babies, not already brainwashed ones.

>> No.10675914

>>10671173
>condition kid to something
>wow it works
the news of 2019

>> No.10675939

>>10671215
>wow lok at me I use da word insel to apear mature ant like im Nut an Ynzel.
I like how cucks would regularly refer to other people as virgins/incels just so they dont look like massive losers.

>> No.10675961

>>10672627
>being enlightened not by a phony god blessing but by your own intelligence
even tho religion is utherly fake it exists to keep the masses calm and not causing humanity to plunder into oblivion,in contrast to atheism. People like you hate religion because they hate seeing people happy and calm accepting of their smallness,further than that your anti-god ideas dont come from the acceptence that life is meaningless but from fear of your own little existence.you hide they insecurities under a veil of "logic" and "enligthement" yet dont understand the core aspect of religion.
TL;DR: please read platons noble lie and stop talking shit.

>> No.10676600

>>10671227

Nice baseless assertion. Got a peer reviewed study to back it? No? Get fucked, lel. Your feels are nothing before 10671208's reals.

>> No.10676609

>>10672418
Center of Expertise on Gender Dysphoria at the VU University Medical Center,
My but they sound completely unbiased and definitely haven't gone in looking for what they want to see at all.

>> No.10676611

>>10676609
So it's fake news with potentially non-misleading information buried in it somewhere.

>> No.10676614

>>10676611
>So it's fake news with potentially non-misleading information buried in it somewhere.
Unless someone reproduces this, its pretty worthless yeah.

>> No.10676617

>>10671173

mm and your haemo blood count resembles your level of cancer.

so?

>> No.10676725

>>10676611
>>10676614
It is clear as day:
The paper is here and it obvious that
>>10673841
>The prepubertal children did not show any group differences in FC

>> No.10676757

>>10671173
so then wouldn't gender identity be biological?

>> No.10676764

>>10671173
Are you saying that men and women have different working brains?

>> No.10676789

>>10671173
probably some tiny part of the brain that grown by pretending to be the opposite gender.

>> No.10676797

>>10672418
So brain function changes with transgenderism to match desired gender. What about underlying brain structure?

>> No.10676798

>>10671173
No, they dont.

They have attraction to the same sex, because of their imaginary personal space - what they like to comfort to - being injured.

>> No.10676808

>>10672429
This study aids Shapiro's point in this way: transgender people begin to think like the opposite sex ie brain function matches. However their brains are still that of their biological sex. The dysphoria comes from the mismatch, the biological sex we have no control over. However you can choose to think like whatever you want. So, trans people should conform to their biological sex to cure their dysphoria.

>> No.10676813

>>10671173
>Look doctor, my brain looks like a females brain so that should be enough to have you mutilate my private parts.

>> No.10676826

>>10671173
>Resemble their gender identity.
>Resemble.
Close, but no cigar.

>> No.10676829

>>10671179
Gender and sex are the same thing. Which is why transgender people need bodies that conform with their brain to be proper functioning members of society

>> No.10676834

>>10676826
Resemble as in "closer to the female norm"
There is no perfectly standardised term. Resemble in the context doesn't mean "close but different" it means "within the range you'd expect of a woman"

>> No.10676836

>>10676829
People forget that transgenders existed in another form during the medieval and classical ages. We called the Eunuchs.

Maybe this is just nature's less abrasive self destruct mechanism for broken humans that can't handle suicide?

>> No.10676870

>>10676808
>So, trans people should conform to their biological sex to cure their dysphoria.
There is zero evidence that works. There's plenty of evidence that surgery to bring their body closer to their self-image helps. Why stick to approaches that don't work, besides dogmatism?

>> No.10676871

>>10676829
Wrong. Not all trans people have gender dysphoria.

>> No.10676888

>>10672510
Ironically you're the same person about people from /pol/ not leaving either. Sad!

>> No.10676954

Doesn't that disprove the theory that gender is a "social construct", since it's because they have a deffective brain?

>> No.10676965

>>10671173
This idea has been around longer than the LGBT meme. I first heard about this in 2010 when I was 12 years old and have never heard about LGBT until years later.

>> No.10676977

>>10676829

Yeah, getting your dick cut in half and inverted and then committing suicide by the time you're 30 is a functioning member of society.

>> No.10677092

>>10676829
Except trannies aren't functioning members of society.

>> No.10677226

>>10676836
This
Go to south Asia and Trans and Eunuchs have their OWN seperate legal status as a third sex
Problems solved.

The issue is subjective identity cognitive dissonance
Medical intervention further trounces reasoning of
>But it;s like in my mind yeah? Just accept my self-identity as scientific fact like yeah

>> No.10677229

>>10671173
How do you qualify to represent the kids legally when they are adults and the inevitable lawsuits follow?

Do you need to be trained a particular aspect of case law? Which one?

>> No.10677246

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

The people pushing this shit are beyond disgusting.

>> No.10677260

>>10676829
>Gender and sex are the same thing.
no

>> No.10677268

>>10671208
>What's rustles my jimmies is all these sexually confused Tumblrites who claim to be genderfluid or nonbinary
Is it so hard to think that maybe if neural patterns can look like those of the opposite sex as trans people, then maybe some people's brain patterns could be somewhere in between those of men and women? And that those people could feel like neither, as if their gender was nonbinary? I'm not talking about identifying as a dragon or astralgender or whatever, I'm just talking about in between male and female. That's how I feel.

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Say something nice about me

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>>10677268
Oh fuck I forgot I'm not on /lgbt/ anymore and forgot about my tripcode.

>> No.10677290

>>10677277

amazing door, would smash

>> No.10677313

>Mentally ill trannies convince little kids they're not what they actually are, instead they're what they want tjem to think they are.
It's literally just an infectious memetic disease. An idea so powerful on kids it works on them and convinces them to cut their dicks off. It's all about the time kids spend on the internet and have the shitty luck to meet a mentally ill troony somewhere that convinces them it's not okay to be a man/woman.

>> No.10677501

>>10676871
Then we should change the definition until that is the case

>> No.10677509

>>10677277
fucking hell

>> No.10677521

>>10676834
Resemble in any context means close but different. This is what close means. The perfectly standardized term you are looking for is female.

>>10676829
The strewn about line that "gender is a social construct" is broken by the closely guarded definition that sex is a biological one. This makes them mutually exclusive.

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>>10671173

So? This isn't news. It is a failure in thje development of their brains that resulted in their failure to adopt its real biological sex. Every brain starts as female during development.

>> No.10677643

>>10671211
begone with your pop-sci education

>> No.10678094

ITT:Nobody understands the concept of gender and sex

>> No.10678151

>>10671191
It's easier to turn your brain and be told what to think by others. Is it better to let others do the critical thinking for you?

>> No.10678156

Transexualism is also more pronounced (or rather, more severe) in males because of microchimeric cells from their mother's body that have developed into neurons, however these cells don't end up growing because a male's body doesnt produce enough estrogen to support them.

However it is likely that because xenoestrogen consumption is rising quickly in developed countries these cells now have access to enough estrogen to develop, causing a rise in males identifying as transsexuals, so far as to have kids as young as 8 being transexual. Though I have no doubts that some amount of social pressure is also causing this.

>> No.10678159

Mentally ill people attempting to justify their mental illness.

>> No.10678181

>>10675807
12 but i'm 10 biologically, strangely enough though doctors wont prescribe me testosterone "because of negative health effects" but will prescribe some to someone that had a piece of their calve carved out to make a fake penis. Really makes you think.

>> No.10678189

>>10671614
Lmao fucking gotem

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>>10672959
this is the dumbest take

>> No.10678252

>>10678194
cope

>> No.10678257

Trumptards BTFO

>> No.10678464

>>10671173
>cherry pick data
>l-look we're doing science
It's bullshit.

>> No.10678515

>>10671208
>Also, even though there was a wide range of differences in shape and size in the splenium, the study found no significant differences between the sexes or between transsexual patients of either sex and the controls.

>> No.10679093

>>10677246
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer
>The people pushing this shit are beyond disgusting.
????
That link supports the point OP's study makes - that transsexualism is inherent and not merely a set of learned ideas and behaviours.

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>>10679093

>> No.10679550

>>10679494
If transgender people suffer due to having a gender identity in conflict with their birth sex, then it makes sense that performing sex reassignment on someone who is NOT transgender would produce similar symptoms of dysphoria.

>> No.10679618

have sex

>> No.10679804

>>10676871
Ooookay buddy, keep believing that delusion.