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10662436 No.10662436 [Reply] [Original]

You are the dictator of a small island nation. Your island is rich in natural resources, and the inhabitants can wake up, pick food from the trees, and sun themselves (or surf) for the rest of the day without worry. You, however, want to create an industrialized economy, modern technology, and in all other respects build a "civilized" state. What sorts of laws or institutions would you create to make your happy (but lazy) people productive, innovative, and (by the lights of civilization) prosperous?

i.e. How would you coax work out of a population that has already met it's individual goals of food, shelter, and safety?

Think behavioral economics.

>> No.10662450

>>10662436
Dividing them into groups that compete to win some non-material honour seems like a start. Religion in general could help out a lot here, if you could get it to take root.
The easiest/hardest way would obviously be to sequester resources by force and have them labour to earn it back, but I don't think that's the answer you're looking for.

>> No.10662454

>>10662436
I would look through my population in search of any jews. When the jews have been identified, I would divert government resources only to them to allow them to grow, study and reproduce, and then just let them do what they did in our modern world. Remember that every important technological advancement has been made by Jews.

If there are no jews in my island then I give up because it would be impossible.

>> No.10662456
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>>10662436
Communism.

>> No.10662458

>>10662456
No, Patrick, starving to death is not a technology.

>> No.10662460

>>10662436
>You are the dictator of a small island nation. Your island is rich in natural resources, and the inhabitants can wake up, pick food from the trees, and sun themselves (or surf) for the rest of the day without worry.
This is unrealistic unless the population hasn't reached the maximum carrying capacity of the island yet.

>> No.10662468
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10662468

Create centralized natural resource banking system that loans resources out to people so they no longer have to spend time picking trees. They can spend more time surfing and just borrow all the resources they need. Then put socio-economic pressures on people so they can't repay their debt and you can "own" them and force them to repay you in anyway you decide. e.g. slavery If you wanted to be "ethical" about it you could let them decide how to pay you back, and instead of slavery call it career.

>> No.10662471
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>>10662436
brainwash the women to only want to breed with rich men

>> No.10662482

>>10662436
Just do whatever singapore did.

>> No.10662494

You can't coax them at all OP that's the weird thing but you could set up a system that rewards technological innovations and maintenance. This is basically what the free market does on a higher level

>> No.10662498

>>10662450
That was on my thought process, maybe pull a Napoleon and give fake value to "medals" for conquests that benefit the island as a whole.

>> No.10662501

>>10662471
but what does a rich man have that a poor man doesn't? more fruit? An excess has no inherent value since there is no shortage of natural resources or food.

>> No.10662504

>>10662468
sounds familiar thinking face

>> No.10662506

>>10662501
Nothing, that's why I said brainwash.

>Use mass media to change perceptions
>Women now prefer men who are rich
>Men of low socioeconomic status try to get rich to get women
>Majority of men now productive

>> No.10662513
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10662513

o hai, outlander

>> No.10662599

>>10662454
kek

>> No.10662602

>>10662436

if you make the island small enough you get my room, so im hypothatically already leading a small microcosm

>> No.10662603

>>10662454
cant tell if anti-semite or serious

>> No.10662648

>>10662436
>How would you coax work out of a population that has already met it's individual goals of food, shelter, and safety?
I'm a dictator. I put a gun in their back and tell them to work.

>> No.10662675

>>10662436
Privatize all land, including food sources and beaches, obviously. Then people with land in the interior will have to trade food to beach owners for access to the beach. The most successful farmers will want to buy their own beach and and the most successful beach owners will want to buy their own farm. This will create a self-sustaining competitive economy that constantly increases supply and demand.

>> No.10662750

>>10662675
>hurr durr
>ecomomic grof is muh jesus
>all hail ecomomic grof

>> No.10662758

>>10662750
>hurr durr you answered the question

>> No.10662770

>>10662758
market worshippers are so easy to spot, once you understand them

>> No.10662797

>>10662770
Literally no one cares about your political obsession.

>> No.10662800

>>10662797
Faggot, I am just here for the (You)s.

THANKS

>> No.10662802

>>10662800
Yeah, no one cares. Just so you know.

>> No.10662805

>>10662802
:(

>> No.10662817

>>10662436
Everyone lives in hobbit holes and electricity is banned.

>> No.10662882
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>>10662468
>Then put socio-economic pressures on people so they can't repay their debt
>hurr its the goverment's fault that I have to find food to survive

>> No.10662883

>>10662436
This isn't a place to get your homework done for you.

>> No.10662885

>>10662436
>You, however, want to create an industrialized economy, modern technology, and in all other respects build a "civilized" state. What sorts of laws or institutions would you create to make your happy (but lazy) people productive, innovative, and (by the lights of civilization) prosperous?

So you want to introduce all that modern shit onto people who either don't want it OR don't want it implemented the way you do? Why the fuck do you call them lazy? Because they don't work for you or have a life outside of work or MAYBE they work for themselves and don't want to work under a boss.

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>>10662506
Damn you government for brainwashing these bird women into only wanting rich bird men!
Damn you!

>> No.10662887

>>10662675
That is gonna end up so bad. like guaranteed way to sloe all land ownership to foreign companies and irreversibly ruining the island not to mention the issue of fucking PRIVATIZING PUBLIC LAND.

>> No.10663011

>>10662436
>>10662883
Now that I think about it, pretty sure I had an AP Gov’t assignment very very similar to this back in fucking high school.

>> No.10663140

>>10662436
>You, however, want to create an industrialized economy, modern technology, and in all other respects build a "civilized" state.
You have to have a reason and also communicate this to the people. For instance if industrialisation provided healthcare that meant people could enjoy a long life rather than a short and happy one, you might get people on board.

>> No.10663185

>>10662603
I'm 100% serious. I believe that Jews invented western civilization and not only that but it was jews at Intel that invented the technology that today allows me to say this to you, and for you to receive it.

>> No.10663186

>>10662436
Fuck off. Not doing your homework.

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>>10662513
repent sinners!!

>> No.10664517

>>10663185
What is a jew anyway? They look and sound just like white people?