/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10637988
Good idea but I can already tell you, the implementation will be awful if not failing at all.

I'm in as long as we don't use discord for anything.

Sure but I want to read velleman first

I am in, as long we use open source solutions.

>>10637988
i love this idea

>>10637988
>>10637991
>>10639365
>>10639653
>>10639714
>>10640080
The virgin Spivak reading group

The chad Apostol autodidact

>>10639365
What's wrong with discord

>>10640109
Its slogan is "chat for gamers". Need any more reasons? Besides, there's no reason to have a chat group when we can just a create a /scg/ - Spivak Calculus General or something like that.

>>10640098
Stop mass replying, you fucking sperg.

>>10637988
Excellent idea.

>>10640253
/scg/ seems like a good idea.

phd anon here

ill join you, but just to point and laugh

>>10637988
faggot

>>10640326
>ill join you, but just to point and laugh
Isn't that the whole job description of a maths prof, though?

>>10640253
Why would you care about trivialities like that? You probably hate twitch emotes too because you are le 4channer in > muh secret 4channer club
Omegalul

>>10640429
>twitch emotes
I don't even know what those are. Careful, anon, your preteen is showing.

>>10640429
Kill yourself.

>>10640457
ahaha, the cope OMEGALUL
soo edgy ~~

>>10640440
calm down, big boy
* posts on anime boards for idiots *

>>10637988
I'm doing it myself but I dont give a shit about you

why do I need to do it in a group?

>>10640253
what u have against gamers bro

i am in but dont use discord, you need to make account to use it

>>10637988
>Spivak
he was a Jew, right?

So, 4th edition or 3rd edition?

>>10640429
>>10640502
>>10640460
>>10640464
Niggers and zoomers.

>>10640414
yes, that's why im practicing here

>>10640502
I actually quite like videogames but people who identify themselves as gamers are the cringiest bunch.

>>10640921
Win-win.

Do I need to have a knowledge of proofs in order to do spivak or apostol?

>>10641039
You will learn basic proofs somewhat by doing either.

>>10637988
Sign me the fuck up, but op, can you specify the time in some manner? Studying in trimesters here, which leads to a shit-ton of exams in mid june.

I'm in as long as we use discord

>>10641283
Ditto ;3

>>10637988
i'm up for it. wanted to go over calculus again, never liked that subject much, ordered this from the library and each exercise section is like 6 pages long, it's fucking huge. need motivatio nto get through this.
could we perhaps start even earlier?

>>10641039
i don't understand, do americans literally have a "proof class"? what's the fucking purpose, explaining what proofs by contradiction are the whole semester? proving is something you pick up from learning mathematics in general, this seems like a pointless idea

>>10640253
>>10640281
/scg/ is stupid when you can use something like discord. fine, don't use discord, use irc or some other shit, as long as it's a chatroom

I would be happy to do it. I'm doing it anyway

>>10641399
As an American I will explain. I attended a nice highschool in the US. It was a public school in a wealthy area. The highest level math course I took was Calculus; not AP Calc just regular Calculus. Most of my classes were focused on performing calculations; solve for x, solve the following integral, etc.
I went on to attend a no-name uni in the Midwest. All of the intro math courses required no knowledge of proofs. This includes Calculus 1/2/3, Intro to Linear Algebra, and Intro to Differential Equations. All these classes only required that you perform calculations and "know the process." In order to bridge the gap between these lower-level courses and higher level math courses we will have a course dedicated to proofs. This Proofs course will provide an overview of basic logic, mathematical induction, direct proofs, proofs by contradiction, set theory, functions, equivalence relations, and a short introduction to Number Thoery.
Book of Proofs by Richard Hammack is a typical text used in such courses.

>>10637988
that sounds nice, only poblem is I'm a bit of a brainlet, how fast would we read?

Seriously doubt there will be enough interest to keep a general chat going. Anyone set up a discord room yet?

>>10641500
excuse me, what? aren't things like this usually included in stuff like discrete mathematics, mathematical logic or anything similar in the US? i distinctly remember rosen's discrete mathematics having all of this

>>10637988
https://discord.gg/s9MRMyh

>>10641560
>excuse me, what? aren't things like this usually included in stuff like discrete mathematics, mathematical logic or anything similar in the US? i distinctly remember rosen's discrete mathematics having all of this

At my uni discrete math is usually taken by comp sci majors. It is not a requirement for math majors. We do however offer an elective on Applied Combinatorics that you can take as a math major. But again, it is not required.
Resources are limited at my uni. Most of the lower level math courses are catered towards engineers.

Looks like discord shills hijacked the thread. You can shove your draconian EULA down your asshole. I am not installing that spyware on my computer.

>>10641740
It's ok, unless you have something to hide :) you don't have something to hide right? :)

>>10637988
I've ta'd this course so many times, I'd be happy to join and look at attempt of proofs and give insight and feedback as long as no one spergs out on me

>>10641560
Discrete math is oftentimes the "intro proofs" class at many unis. They're combined most of the time.

>>10641941
I'd be ecstatic to have anyone talk with me about this as I go through it.

>>10641941
Please join, as it will be interesting to have someone who knows what they are doing

>>10642151
>>10642152
Yeah just set up some thing maybe a discord or whatever. I'm a graduate student rn looking for research in analysis and low-dimensional topology

>>10641560
In the US, the only kids who seem to take discrete math are the CSCI kids.

My experience is exactly as this anon >>10641500

I think they streamline it this way cuz the engineering people don't really need to know about proof stuff. If you are already good at doing math, then there are usually honors calc 1/2/3 that typically include proofs, but the for the regular math / physical science track you don't get to proofs until 2nd year or so which is pretty tragic actually. Not even usually required for physical science majors which is really dumb especially if they plan on going to grad school

>>10640429
Shut the fuck up, brainlet.

>>10642242
Here: https://discord.gg/s9MRMyh

>>10642255
The cope

>>10642279
Yay

>>10640675
>was
he's still alive

anyone here on riot? or #math irc?

what's the point? motivation? the book has an associated answer book, and if you get stuck you can ask for help on specific proofs. this is what I did.

Also, don't waste your time with 'intro proof' bs, just GO GO GO

I'm in but PLEASE let's not use discord or other botnets ok.

>>10642279
I'm 28 am I too old to join? I have phys undergrad. did poorly tho

was looking at doing terry analysis book, but might need a bit of basic prep like this before

>>10637988
I did this last year, nobody posted anything in the group chat

>>10643303
You are never too old to do calculus

>>10643303
if you've done phys you should be fine, regardless of how poorly you did

>>10643369
this desu

>>10643303
Tao assumes as little as Spivak does (basically just precalculus, no proofs) but the beginning is even more thorough and detailed.

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>>10643396
Alright I'm gonna do it <3

>>10642022
My school has the discrete, intro proofs and philosophy proofs. Math undergrads basically start out in their own math courses away form the engineers and Sciences