/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10618401
>What is the least scientific thing you believe in?
anthropomorphic climate change

Mind precedes the platonic realm which precedes reality which precedes mind

It is not mind, it is not Buddha, it is not things

>>10618403
>anthropomorphic
Like, earth-chan?

>>10618401

climate change

>>10618401
Ghosts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nmu3uwqzbI

The greatest thinker in the past 400 years believed in Ghosts. I do too.

>>10618463
>Derrida was the greatest thinker in the past 400 years
wew LAD

sports are very important

>>10618401
Black holes

>>10618463
The sky is full of ghosts. Light lingers even after its source's death.

Things do not exist when you aren’t looking at them and objects beyond the anthropocentric scope (be it particles or black holes) do not exist in the same way that the things immediately around us do

Also the passage of time is an illusory component of the present now

>>10618401
history

>>10618491
>Things do not exist when you aren’t looking at them
Ssssh, too hard of a pill for most to swallow

Let them enjoy their limited Newtonian perspective

>>10618491
>>10618539
Based

Developing object permanence is not learning that things exist when you can’t see them, it’s learning that they’ll usually be in a similar place when you see them again

>>10618407

This, in a nutshell.

There is some weird relationship between the mind and the external physical world.

It’s like some fractal or a cycle. I can’t scientifically describe it but I know it’s there.

gravitons

>>10618401
saltatory evolution and vaccines depress the fitness of the inoculated population over time

God

>>10618401
Global warming

Scientific racism.

>>10618401
Consciousness. Sometimes I wonder if we're all connected in one big meta-consciousness.

>>10618401
nothing

>>10618401

I don't even really believe in science per se
It's only what you might call a temporary solution to a permanent problem

>>10618401
That we may achieve indefinite healthspan in my lifetime

>>10619912
I like that one.

Meme magic

>>10618463
I don't even like Derrida but you totally butchered what he means by ghosts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauntology

>>10618463
>The greatest thinker in the past 400 years
>Derrida
lolwut? why not Andrea Dworkin or a Flat-Earther?

That my ancestor watch over me and provide me with moral support through conversation when i can't be fucked to fulfill my responsibilities.

That consequences are not products of actions but are granted to you by an anthropomorphised version of that category of action. e.g. You don't get good grades because you study, your good grades are granted to you by Academia as a gift for your worship in the form of studying. You don't avoid tickets by not speeding, you worship Law by driving at a reasonable speed and he responds by not giving you tickets.


I don't actually believe either of these things but anthropomorphising my will and goals sees to help me accomplish them. You should try it.

I don't believe in anything

>>10618401
What If the Earth Does Not Exist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CyN8rYdX6g

>>10618401
That OP is not a faggot.

But scientifically he is.

Love

My mom.

>>10618407
>>10618585
Read this if you haven't already.

>>10618401
Precognition (only because of a personal experience)
Collective unconscious via epigenetics (because this seems actually scientifically plausible but is regarded as fringe)

>>10619842
>tfw all the anti-intellectual normalfags you hate so much are actually (you) in a certain sense
I'd rather choose the eternal void instead of this garbage.

>>10620417
Precognition is scientifically proven by multiple academic institutions and professors.
There is a stigma around it and for good reason but the testing methodology and results still hold water.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_O9Qiwqew

I have an IQ of 135

Butterfly effect.

Like, if Hitler didn't failed art school, there wouldn't have been WW2.

And sometimes I believe in the opposite : structuralism. Like, if Americans didn't step on the moon, then someone else still would've.

Weird beliefs.

>>10618401
I believe in God. Not as a benevolent helper, but as a terrible destroyer, who barely takes notice of us worms. The thought terrifies me and I have dreams about an all consuming mind capable cosmic scale horrors.

>>10620502
What.
Butterfly effect arises from chaos theory, which is actually an physical fact.
Whether humanity history is system that falls under it is debatable, but clearly not anti-scientific.

>>10620516
Then I must just be really smart, since even my beliefs are science-based.

>1000 IQ club

>>10618401
My morals and values since no morality can be determined through science.

>>10618401
i think that even the most right off the bat fringe theories should be researched but i don't believe in anything unscientific

even with manmade global warming, that isn't unscientific, just because some holier than me loonies share their crazy theories on youtube without actually debunking anything, that doesn't make it unscientific

>>10618641
Very subtle humor here

>>10620586
/thread

When I die I'll get to hug my mom again. I swear thats the solace I get knowing that I'll die.

that life can have a meaning

>>10620462
Too late, buddy! Here I am again! Every time you interact with retards they become a part of you, even over the internet :)

Unironically this.

>>10620407
second this

>>10620097
so you believe that you don't believe anything?

>I believe...
>I believe that....
>I believe that we.....
>I believe that we will.....
I believe that we will win! I believe that we will win! I believe that we will win! I believe that we will win! I believe that we will win!

>>10618401
Science isn't about believing, it's about proving.
Anyway I personally believe cats are magical.
I know it's irrational, but in order to be rational all the time you have to take a pause here and there to recharge yourself.
When you see a purring ball of hair you know it's the right time for that.

>>10621429
Reddit

When I get hurt on one side my body I have to inflict a similar injury to the mirrored location or else I will become unstable and fall apart

>>10621429
This post made me sick

>>10620502
This is just common sense

>>10620415
Is it worth reading if you’ve already read GEB? I heard IAASL was written to explicitly spell out what most people missed in GEB

>>10620413
Your mom

>>10621429
>Science isn't about believing
You inevitably start reasoning with axioms, and what are those if not beliefs

>>10621664
Axioms are not beliefs retard, it's pure reason. Like saying if A, B, C are true then X, Y, Z, etc. They are a logically consistent foundations that you have to accept to build a larger structure or system of order.

You can invent your own axioms but if they are nonsensical then your system is obsolete. It's all about what you can establish

My waifu

>>10621732
>are not beliefs
>foundations that you have to accept

nominal ontology and haecceity.
Thanks community college.

>>10618401
Axiom of infinity

>>10618491
It was "unscientific things" not "scientific things that are too weird for people to wrap their minds around"

>>10621239
Friend. I believe the structure of reality is the structure of our subconscious and that seeming coincidences like that the sun and moon appear to be the same size from our perspective can tell us about the structure of ourselves and thus a deeper level of understanding reality. Super-materialism, in a way.

>>10618401
I am a 5-point Calvinist Christian

>>10618491
One time I managed to turn around before things loaded, it was sick

>>10618407
>platonic realm
Into the trash it goes

>>10620586
This

>>10618491
>>10618539
>>10618548
>>10622682
>>10622773
>my car won't start because I can't see my engine therefore it no longer exists
>I fall through my chair whenever I close my eyes
Retards.

>>10622773
Did you report the issue to the developers?

>>10618472
This is true and scientic tho

>>10618401
The weak anthropic principle.

Cognitive behavioral therapy.
It seems it works for depression and anxiety disorders but we don't know why.

>>10618463
>Derrida
>thinker
lmfao

>>10623055
God sees all things, so nothing disappears.

>>10618401
I've read a lot about "mind over matter" phenomena in history and I believe there's a higher, maybe "spiritual", plane of existence that people can learn to tap into, and that events in that plane precede events in the physical plane so that learning to control that is far more effective at controlling the physical plane than any force you can exert in the physical plane

>>10618407
the idea of a "platonic realm" comes from a time before pattern recognition and cybernetics were conceptualized

it's to these things what alchemy is to chemistry and therefore an inexcusable position today

>>10624441
You're so close, you have only to avoid a few of those infernal pitfalls
Terms like "higher planes" and "dimensions" obscure the true, total nature of what this is. That thing you may call the "spiritual plane" is already surrounding you. That's all this is. It has no scale, it has no space, it has no there, only a here. Distance is but a property of the way this "plane" presents itself to you, not a property of the thing itself. Likewise for time, the past and future. Even the present, all that there is, does not take place in time. It only seems that way. There exist ways to dig into the bristles and find the gaps in between, but they can't be communicated with words.

>>10620076
based and magapilled

>>10624320
Read Of Grammatology.
Greatest thinker of the past several hundred years.

>>10624469
Lacan > Derrida

>>10621509
for some reason it seems like injuries to finger or toenails are often replicated by the same one on the opposite side

>>10624472
Lacan was a pseud and a hack.
Derrida, while full of shit at times, at least was intelligent and knew what he was doing. Lacan was a brainlet who thought he was wise. There's a huge difference.

>>10624466
"plane" is just my wording of choice, it's not that it's a separate dimension or whatever, I'm just expressing that it's a non-material phenomena

>>10620697
Based

>>10618654
Simultaneously the least scientific thing, and most, depending on your reasoning

>>10620483
Apparently I have an IQ of 127, tested this year.

Meanwhile I have a 12% in comm college algebra, so that was a fucking lie

>>10620502
Imagine being so dumb you think literal facts aren't scientific

>>10618401
That I'll ever be happy

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>>10618407
Based

>>10620076
I can’t explain it but I also don’t believe in coincidences either

>>10618403
>anthropomorphic

>>10619842
Based monopsychist/open-individualist

>>10618491
>the passage of time is an illusory component of the present now
But that's scientifically proven

>>10622773
Underrated

>>10618491
>substituting the simpler hypothesis that things stay where they are when you look away with the more complex hypothesis that things disappear when you look away and reappear right when you look back

>>10620509
You read Lovecraft?

>>10624631
Au contraire, mon feu. The existence of a self-consistent, infinitely complex reality inhabited by multiple living beings seems far more complex a hypothesis to me than the existence of some "observing center," perfectly acclimated to the ethereal hallucinations it presents to itself, deluded into thinking that it is in any way arbitrary, or could ever be any other way. It interprets the miracle of itself as banal in the absence of any other thing to know.

>>10621429
>>10621732
Why do redditors consistently get the meaning of the word "belief" wrong

>>10623055
By "see" they are referring to any observation you can make. Smelling, hearing, touching, etc. If you throw a ball in a completely dark room, you can extract information despite not being able to see. Do you feel it hit you? Do you hear it bounce? How many times does it bounce? How far away does the bounces sound? Vision is just this same concept but applied to photons instead, with your eyes capturing the data instead of the ears. More fundamentally, every interaction we feel except gravity is due to electric forces at very small scales. The most elementary observation we can currently make is in particle accelerators, where the observation is whether the particles scattered off each other or not.

>>10622678

>>10618491
>>10624653
Then why do things tend not to stay the same way when you look away in dreams

>>10621229
gin-san?

>>10618401
The Annunaki.