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so the belief is that Uranus got tipped after it was hit by an asteroid.

So if that's the case, why does the moon follow it's rotation? In other words, why doesn't the moon orbit in a plane with the Sun?
Doesn't this suggest that
A) there is some type of gravitational force that gradually adjusts the moon to be aligned with the spin
B) the moon was not actually captured into orbit, but was somehow ejected by the spinning planet itself
C) for some reason Uranus actually formed with a cockney rotation, and thus it's moon did as well

none of these are good options

>> No.10601317

*moons

>> No.10601469

>>10601311
How can that even be possible? As a gas planet anything incoming will just be swallowed whole. And before it had accumulated the gas envelope such an impact would have shredded both planets.

The only explanation is that this is the result of the Giant Galactic Cow Tipper.
You read it here first.

>> No.10601479

He he. He said "uranus" he said asteroid.

>> No.10601481

There must have been some strong impact that resulted in Uranus getting bent over.

>> No.10601484

>>10601311
Maybe Uranus' core is somehow abnormal which causes it to spin in such a way

>> No.10601486
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>>10601311
My theory

>> No.10601495

>>10601484
ok so explain the moons

>> No.10601506

here is an idea. When the planet is spinning, it is not a perfect sphere, it is slightly oblong spheroid.

This imperfect shape will gradually straighten orbits over time, similar to how tidal forces slowly raise the earth's moon.
Since these planets are made of gas, they will also have tidal effects with the moons, which could possibly cause oblong elliptical orbits to become spherical over time.

The main question is how would such a planet "capture" these moons? Perhaps they have been orbiting since the creation of uranus, and that's why their orbits had enough time to get circular.

As far as how uranus tipped, that is a puzzle. Something would have to drastically change the angular momentum of the entire planet. An asteroid impact might have done it, but it is super doubtful to me. It could be a torque over time perhaps a magnetic force or something?

>> No.10601519

>>10601486
What would've happened to the other planet that hit it?

>> No.10601520

>>10601486
Read >>10601469

>> No.10601586

>>10601519
they combine, spouting debris into orbit, forming the ring and moons

>> No.10601677

>>10601495
The tidal effects will eventually tend to swing the moon more-or-less into the same plane as the equator.

>> No.10601685

>>10601311
Conservation of angular momentum. Its the same reason the moon is tidally locked with earth.
Both orbital bodies push and pull on eachother which is going to normalize orbital planes and rotations.
Your moons, if they weren't captured, form from debris rings around the planets rotational axis.

>> No.10601688

>>10601311
One hypothesis is that this is due to massive diamond bergs forming at high pressure in the core

>> No.10601689

>>10601519
Amalgamated into uranus and its moons with the rest ejected out of orbit.

>> No.10601708

>>10601688
One of my favorite parts of the sequels to 2001 was a giant diamond from jupiter expelled from the core when it got MONOLITHed sinking into europa's surface.
Always painted this amazing picture in my head.

>> No.10601806

>>10601481
fuck you I was on nofap for five weeks

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>>10601708

>> No.10601826

>>10601311
Unlike the other planets in our system, and even the sun, Uranus spins on its axis at the one, true, proper angle. Even its beautiful emerald hue is owed to its rotational energy. At some point in time, Uranus began to spin upon the guidelines of the golden rectangle and acquired the "perfect" rotational energy as dictated by the natural, unspoken laws of the universe, resulting in its currently-fixed axial tilt. If we could figure out how it was achieved, perhaps we could do the same the Earth and usher in a new age of greatness for every living being.

>> No.10602111

>>10601311
It was hit when its moons were still a cloud of dust and hadn't fully formed yet.

>> No.10602431

The material for moons and ring systems is sometimes put into orbit by a collision. Maybe it was the same event that produced the moon and shifted the axis?

Alternative: Tidal friction homogenized the angular momenta of the planet and planet-moon system

>> No.10603137

>>10601311
Yeah well YOUR anus IS a tip OP

>> No.10603156

>>10601469
To anything coming in at orbital speeds, all planets act like fluids. Doesn't mean the object just passes right through.

>> No.10603172

>>10603156
Im thinking of how hard water feels when you jump from high. Same ish?

>> No.10603186

>>10603172
Yes.

>> No.10603218

>>10601469
The envelope of gas is rather thin and still reacts to being hit

>> No.10603240

What about Jupiter's migration from the outer system, could that have done it? And gravitational tug over time could be why both the planet, the rings, and the satellites all tipped equally.

>> No.10603282

>>10601311
The most common theory is that it was hit by a mass much larger than an asteroid, think planet sized, during early stages of the solar system while the planets were forming causing the tilt or Uranus and its moons.

>> No.10603366

>>10601311
Uranus has the right inclination; the solar system is tipped.

>> No.10603371

>>10601311
Seculars BTFO. God’s creativity and power proven once again

>> No.10603419

>>10603371
Uh actually Uranus is controlled by Uranus himself, dumb monotheist.

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10603426

>>10603419
>he doesn’t know that pagan “gods” are just demons

I pray for your soul anon

>> No.10603472

>>10603426
Wrong, worshiper of Phoenician weather gods! The word “Demon” is of Greek origin and refers to spirits lesser in power to the Titans and Lords of Olympus. They are friends and tutors of mankind.

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>>10603472
>he doesn’t know that demon is just a word describing fallen angels and that “demon” can change meaning over time depending on context.

Anon I...

>> No.10603502

>>10601506

I like this answer. if Uranus either didn't form with the rest of the solar system or was "tipped" then its rotation would determine the plane of its rings and moons because of it being elongated at the poles, BUT only if it were so far away that the sun's gravity wouldn't pull harder, in which case the spin of Uranus itself would change.

But I'm just a plumber...

>> No.10603507

>>10603502

errrr elongated at the equator, not the poles...

>> No.10603510

>>10603483
>he doesn’t know that demon is just a word describing fallen angels

Still wrong, Canaanite. The word “demon” originated in Ancient Greece where it referred to the spirits of the departed dead from the Golden Age. The minions of Adonai and his companion Saytan pale in comparison to the strength of these noble spirits, and they themselves are beneath the notice of the Olympians.

>and that “demon” can change meaning over time depending on context.

Stealing and deforming words to spread lies is the way of Canaanites like yourself. It is not the way of the Sons of Olympus. You will suffer forever in the darkest pits of Tartarus, whereas I will dwell in Elysium amongst the greatest heroes of all time. Begone, Carthaginian.

>> No.10603511

>>10601506
>This imperfect shape will gradually straighten orbits over time, similar to how tidal forces slowly raise the earth's moon.
What makes you say that?

>> No.10603513

>>10603510
>Adonai

Yes, one of the many names of The Almighty himself.

>> No.10603520

Jupiter probably did it while it was flying all over the damn place

>> No.10603819

>>10603511
you understand that we are integrating the gravitational force over the entire mass of the object, if the object is not a perfect sphere there will be secondary effects that mess with the orbits. Just as the slight tidal bulges on the earth are enough to affect the moon's orbit

>> No.10603820

>>10603371
>god is uranus
i can live with that

>> No.10603821

>>10601506
Ok, another idea to add onto this.

When Uranus was being formed, it was just a solid core without much gas. The gas was added on top of this solid core later. The solid core got it's angular momentum shifted off planar, and then when the gas was added it subtracted some of that (the gas has planar momentum for the most part) and it arrived at a happy medium we see today. I am guessing this solid core must be incredibly massive though. We know that the gasses of uranus are not very dense

>> No.10603838

>>10603156
I didn't expect objects to pass right through, that is why I wrote swallowed whole.

>> No.10603842

What if it rolled over a disc of rubble during the systems formation, because it had a funky orbit(due to impact perhaps)?

>> No.10604010

>>10601826
stop with jojo references, please

>> No.10605429

>>10604010
why?