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What are some scientific ways that we could reduce wind and water damage during hurricanes and tornadoes.... and more importantly how can we reduce flooding in order to save lives?

I read that the most deaths that occur in a hurricane are due to drowning in massive floods from hurricane waters.

Would it be possible to place gigantic heaters beneath every street and when it starts monsooning or whatever and raining really hard the heaters activate so that the streets become super hot and the water evaporates immediately upon contact with the street?

Of course there will be alarms telling everyone to get into their houses so the streets don't burn them, but if we had boiling hot streets during hurricanes could that end flooding and thus drowning?

>> No.10588994

>>10588970
Increasing the amount of water evaporation into the cyclone would only make things worse, since that is what fuels the cyclone. The thing which actually dissipates the cyclone is the removal of water evaporating into it, which is why they can’t form and last long over land.

>> No.10589026

>>10588994
>>10588994
But the cyclone won't just sit and last forever, if you keep boiling the water something's got to give right?

>> No.10589084

>>10588970
>reduce flooding
Building regulations would take care of this if government wasn't so fucking retarded.

>> No.10589109

OK so nature, water it moves like everything else and it's force is great. Sure the hot, the cold, the wind, the quacked and moment in the crust affects what we call natural disasters. Some actually man made.

Can it be influenced, yes.

However it should be not tampered with much despite 5he tech we have we do not have enough where we can interupt the flow and not cause damage.

You can stop certain things, it will appear as intercepted, avoided stopped however it is only worsened as it has been interrupted the shock is greater when flow is interrupted.

It will comeback to haunt us in folds, damage too much internal the crust and3cause other subjects like one of those butterfly effects.

We should continue to develop tech on that front, just not to use it until we reach a certain level.

We need to concentrate in detecting which e do well, and disaster management, which we do so poorly!

Where we build, how we build, where we distribute and how....

We have great tech to build on a larg.structures that would withstand the flow of natural releases of nature weather it is just flowing or micromanaging releases to balance the things we do!

>> No.10589116

>>10588970
The latent heat of water is huge and the amount of rainfall means you'd need a fucking gargantuan amount of energy to evaporate away the rain.

Mangroves are bretty gud at stopping flooding in places where the grow, which isn't the west

>> No.10589121

>>10589026
Boiling the flood water is literally fueling the cyclone while it’ll continue dumping down more water down, and will continue destroying property with intense wind. The only thing that will break is what you’re using to boil the water, along with the surrounding area.

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https://phys.org/news/2019-04-dark-detector-rarest-event.html
>single quantum decay event makes headlines
What did the universe mean by this?

>> No.10589179

>>10589121
So are you saying that it would be like an eternal cyclone?

>> No.10589471

>>10588970
>>gigantic heaters
the power requirements would be enormous. Probably on the order of atomic bombs per minute. That's impractical. Even if it did work, you could still steam people to death. You can add drainage. A better option is just not to build structures where hurricanes occur frequently.

>> No.10589533

>>10588970
This is a cool game that I think you would like which might help with understanding the factors at play here and which methods are most effective, both life and cost wise.
http://www.stopdisastersgame.org/

>> No.10589675

>>10589471
>Probably on the order of atomic bombs per minute.
More than that. You've got more energy in a medium sized Hurricane then you do in the collected nuclear arsenal of the planet.

>> No.10589861

>>10588970
>so that the streets become super hot
Then you've got another problem, people getting boiled alive.

>> No.10589878

>>10588970
Stop building in danger areas on the coast.
Concrete dugouts over matchstick and plywood houses.

>> No.10590842

>>10588970
Not living in area where huricanes occur proved itself to be cheapest and safest way to avoid huricanne damage.

>> No.10592212

>>10589026
You can say the same about extinguishing forest fire with petrol. Something has to give indeed: noting is left.

What you want is to coll things down. Hurricanes gain energy from warm waters, so ocean thermal power plants can cool the surface and produce freshwater and electricity at the same time. Complexity is a problem.

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10592227

>drown people in boiling water instead lmao

>> No.10592238

>>10588970
>Would it be possible to place gigantic heaters beneath every street and when it starts monsooning or whatever and raining really hard the heaters activate so that the streets become super hot and the water evaporates immediately upon contact with the street?
So when a monsoon happens, you'll have streets of boiling water, slowly evaporating and adding to the the moisture available to the storm? Neat.

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10594478

I'm gonna guess that all the steam would start to hold the water above the street so it would boil a lot slower than it was coming down.

>> No.10594506

>>10588970
No, that's a completely fucking retarded idea on every single level. One thing that can be done is to strengthen coastlines which have been weakened by cutting too many small waterways through them and by reducing sediment flow through major rivers by dredging material inland and manufacturing small artificial sandbars ahead of the coast. Large numbers of sand bars help to reduce the power of storm surges and can start to grow over time from sediment deposits and to some degree regenerate more coastline. This new coastline can be planted with water-loving trees which produce lots of large root structures like mangroves to more firmly anchor them. Well maintained and well engineered levies is another necessary component of storm protection, and a robust pumping system which is at least resistant to debris clogging. As for reducing wind damage, building houses that aren't piece of shit matchboxes with literally glued on roofs would be a start, another is to simply stop trying to populate environments which are prone to inevitable natural disasters like fires, quakes, and hurricanes.

>> No.10594722

>>10592227
Drown? No, you mean cook.