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Old thread :>>10562484

Come in here!

>> No.10570349

Anons, which specialty are you interested in and why?

>> No.10570370

Why is Med School so full of women? In my country 75% of medical graduates are women.

>> No.10570387
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>>10570349
Will probably choose dual anesthesiologist-intensivist degree (or cardiology as a second choice) because I like physio, I like critical care and I like technical procedures and devices (ventilators, dialysis...) used in the intensive care. Also a very good field to do some research related to machine learning.

>> No.10570422
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>>10570349
Anatomical pathology. I like machine learning and dislike most patients and call.

>> No.10570440

Why do they make things so difficult for non-trad students?
>high MCAT
>high GPA
Should be enough. Instead, 'muh you need to take all these courses you already know and volunteer' . All this ghastly rigamarole. The duration of medical school and residency is not what bothers me, it's all the shit that roadblocks qualified candidates before time just because they didn't set out to be physicians.

>> No.10570451

Reminder that /med/ is an openly male-supremacist thread, and that if you’re a woman or woman-sympathiser you are not welcome here.

>> No.10570759

>>10570349

Anesthesia resident reporting in

>limited talking to people
>procedural
>limited/zero clinic
>get to wear scrubs all day

Pretty good gig.

>> No.10570777

To all med fags here who are in clerkship/residency/practicing. How bad are IMG's viewed (i.e being an American who decided to go to the UK or Australia for medical school and come back)?

Any tips for an Australian IMG who wants to match to senpai med or psyc in the US? Other than having a good STEP 1 score.

>> No.10570782

>>10570451

That's not correct. >>>/r9k/ is your safe haven, socially stunted ugly freak.

>> No.10571305 [DELETED] 

>>10570370
Which country?

>> No.10571311

>>10570777
As long as you stay in countries with comparable education and health care system in term of quality (NA, Western Europe, Oz/NZ, Japan), you'll be fine.

>> No.10571341
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>>10570759
>residency in anesthesiology
>any job I want
>$300k starting

400k when I make partner in 2 years

>> No.10571362

>>10570337
is CS pre med a good idea? I want to work on autodiagnosis; is that already saturated?

>> No.10571384

>>10571311

Thanks, I guess I can check that off. As a back up plan though since I doubt I'll be able to come back to Canada, I would not mind applying to the UK/Ireland, USA, and also Aussie residencies. If you're in. Europe, any general advice on how to go about doing that?

>> No.10571385

>>10570759
how hard was it to match to this? how were your USMLE score and rotation grades?

>> No.10571388

>>10571385

How important are rotation grades in the grand scheme of things?

>> No.10571400
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>>10571385
>>10571388
Not very important, unless you are doing the extremely competitive fields with Step 1 scores > 245, or a top ranked residency

Try to honor your desired specialty, but you'll be fine for the most part if you don't

The most important thing is making a good impression during the interview

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>>10571388
Another way to look at this is using AOA as a proxy measurement for rotation grades

The specialties that do NOT match a higher % of non-AOA applicants are the ones that put much emphasis on rotation grades

Derm
IR
Rad Onc
Specialty surgery
Plastics
Neurosurgery
Ortho
ENT
(and likely Urology, although they are on the SFMatch and not the NRMP)

Pathology -- really?

>> No.10571413

>>10571400
tips on honoring? I've just heard don't be annoying/get in the way and find ways to be helpful but not look like a know-it-all

>> No.10571414

>>10571400
saved, thank you. that is useful

>> No.10571433

>>10571407
sorry, I don't know shit about AOA, could I get a QRD? Do your classmates get to vote on whether you get in, Survivor-style?

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>>10571414
Google "charting outcomes in the match"

>>10571433
"Selection criteria differs from school to school, but generally, selection is largely based on your grades, particularly your clinical grades. Other minor selection criteria includes your extracurricular activites such as leadership positions or community service activities and your level of professionalism and respect you have among your peers. Most schools say that the top 10-15% of the class are eligible to be elected"

>> No.10571451

>>10571446
re: the second part, does that mean people actually have time for leadership stuff and community service during med school? what the heck?

>> No.10571456

>>10570349
>>10570387
>>10570759
I want to be an anesthesist too, for the reasons these two anons listed. Intensive care is so damn interesting, but also hard as shit. I consider it a challenge.
>>10570451
Up to a degree. Break the stereptypes, anonette.

>> No.10571462
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>>10571413
Realize that MS3 grading will be almost 100% subjective with a lot of luck, so focus on presenting yourself as a professional. Even if the residents, other students, or nurses act unprofessionally themselves.

Show up early to signout, about 10-15 minutes before the residents.

Don't eat breakfast in front of the hungry residents during signout, that's rude

Pay attention even if you don't know whats going on, don't obviously play on your phone , that's rude

Don't ask teaching questions on rounds if someone is 24h post-call, that is rude to the post-call resident and you will come off as a tryhard and they will not forget it.

Accept all feedback as given, even if you feel it is wrong. Never argue back during feedback time. I know, it isn't fair, but arguing will just leave an even worse impression.

>> No.10571466

>>10571407
>>10571400

I'm going to be attending an Australian medical school where classes are actually graded and not P/F. How crucial will it be to get straight A's if I want a psych residency in the US?

>> No.10571481
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>>10571462
When asked if you want to see a patient or something, it's a rhetorical question, just say "yes, I'd be glad to."

When presenting a patient, if you are asked a question you don't have the information for, just say you don't know. Don't make shit up. If you break trust you will be branded a liar, and that makes you look terrible.

Understand the basic expectation is that a typical MS3s will be able to gather information for the Subjective/Objective parts of an H&P. That's the expectation to PASS

So to HONOR, you are judged based on your ability to A/P. So, always try to come up with some sort of Plan, even if it's wrong.

"Continue the antibiotics" is not a plan
"Pneumonia, Improving today, on Ceftriaxone Day #4/7" is a plan.

If you are expected to present to the ATTENDING, then ask your intern if you can run your assessment and plan by them. Assuming you're on good terms, the intern will likely correct all your mistakes and give you an actual assessment and plan. Copy it down word for word and present it to the attending.

If the attending says you're plan is fantastic, then you talk up the intern: "Thank you, the intern has taught me so much today, I appreciate all of the time she spent teaching me".

But if the plan is completely wrong, you DON'T say "oh but this is what Dr. xxx told me". your residents will murder you for doing this. you accept the responsiblity all on yourself (YOU presented it after all) and say "Oh ok, thank you Dr. Atteding, appreciate you teaching me".

Obviously this is general advice and differs between rotations and hospitals. Nobody can give you a foolproof guide, but you either get the idea at this point or you don't.

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>>10571466
Psych is hardly competitive, doesn't matter much.

Page 238
http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Charting-Outcomes-in-the-Match-2018-IMGs.pdf

>> No.10571500

>>10570370
women are good at mindless work that is not physically taxing and gives them a clear set of procedures to follow, they are less jews and more insects than anything else.

>> No.10571513

>>10571362
Not saturated at all.

>> No.10571593

>>10570370

Women are higher in empathy and in general have less of a tendency to become autistic NEETS who think that their 4.0 in biochem is what medical school admission boards are really looking for. In other words they are good at showcasing their human element while to be frank, too many male doctors I have met are a bunch of robotic faggots. It's almost like if you gave /r9k/ medical degrees. Stop whining about gender differences. I'm sure if you had a cute girlfriend and got laid regularly you wouldn't be posting such pointless, stupid questions on a Taiwanese masturbation forum.

>> No.10571613

>>10571495

Very interesting data, thanks for the link. Hypothetically speaking, say I don't score very well on step 1, i.e 200-210, although I've noticed that some IMG's with this score matched so it's not impossible, do you have any advice on how to maximize chances of matching in a situation like that? And how do I arrange psyc rotations in the US?

>> No.10571618

>>10571593
Seething.

>> No.10571622

>>10571618

Don’t reply to him. He’s a limp-wristed, snivelling worm. One of those creepy guys that, despite being straight, only befriends women because he’s intimidated by masculine behaviour.

>> No.10571627

>>10571311
>Western Europe
>>10571384
>Europe, any general advice

Not sure this is the same as it was pre-EU.
I could be wrong but I think it can be hard/impossible for some Euro docs to work in Canada without a complete re-cert.
Was a Brit here recently complaining that Romanian-trained docs can work in Britain because of the EU and that they were woefully under-qualified.

>> No.10571629

>>10571500
go back to /pol/, pls.
you must be at least 18 to post here.

>> No.10571640

>>10571627
I was talking about doing med school in a country and residency in another, he probably won't be treated like shit as long as he stays in "first world club".

>I could be wrong but I think it can be hard/impossible for some Euro docs to work in Canada without a complete re-cert

Specifically for Canada it depends on where you're from in Europe, Irish and UK physicians can work without re-certification sometimes, French can work in Quebec without re-certification (mutual agreement).

>> No.10571653 [DELETED] 

>>10571618

No, just tired of retarded cunts who hate women because they can't get laid. Start a diary and cry to yourself instead of posting your boring filth on the internet.

>> No.10571661

>>10571640
>>10571627

Thanks that is basically my intention. I am Canadian and plan to study in either UK or Aus but getting a residency back in Canada is so damn difficult I am looking at the options of staying in Aus or the UK, and applying to the USA. Mainly interest in psyc and FM.

>> No.10571663

>>10571661

I also have an EU passport so I was looking into if it might be possible to get a residency somewhere in EU (like in Ireland) but besides that if I don't speak the language then I doubt it's possible

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>>10571622

Hahaha triggered fucking incel cuck. Joke is on you, I don't befriend anyone. More people, more problems. I can proudly say I have absolutely no friends, only a dog, professional acquaintances and someone I hook up with. But I'm not such a god damn kissless freak who is incapable of intimate contact with the opposite sex so I don't need to go on the internet and make posts crying about how many women are in medical school. Stupid subhuman ape.

Pic somewhat related, it's you.

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>>10571663
>like in Ireland

https://www.atlanticbridge.com/medicine/residency/world/

>> No.10571773

>>10571627
>Romanian doctors
they're not unqualified, they are actually far more skilled on average but they work for less in private practice and don't complain about wages.

>> No.10571776

>>10570337
so what's stopping me from going to germany, studying medicine for free, coming back to burgeristan and taking residency... and making lotsa buks with zero debt?

>> No.10571779

>>10571776

Is that actually possible?

>> No.10571887

>>10571773
Romanian guy here. Can confirm. We just want to work for decent money, not shitty 1k euro / month.

>> No.10571889

Can Euro doctors work in Asia?

>> No.10571896

>>10571776
>>10571779
nothing. I know a girl from ecuador that went to a german school there and studies in Germany.

>> No.10571897

>>10570349
Neonatology. Male, unironically like babies.

>> No.10571899
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>>10571897

M-MODS

>> No.10571900

>>10571897

That's very sweet. I hope you'll be a good doctor and save a lot of babies

>> No.10571911

>>10571899
No pls, spare me
>>10571900
Thank you! I did a lot of neo rotations in my spare time this semester. The only males in the NICU were me and a first year resident but I got comfy with everybody, the neo attending did show me procedures and pathologies but ofc I'm not allowed to do anything since I'm just a student, but at least I can stay with the abandoned babies and feed them. That really makes me happy.

>> No.10571916

>>10571911

That's just really nice. You seem like a good human being.

>> No.10571924

>>10571916
>4chan being actually nice
Thank you anon. You seem like a good person too!

>> No.10571927

>>10571924

Cheers, I try but I'm kind of terrible in some ways.

>> No.10571953

>>10570370
This is usually due to the selection process favoring women and other career options being more attractive in a socioeconomic sense. When the economy is good here, the percentage of women increases and during a downturn there are more men.

>> No.10571956

>>10571773
Nobody is complaining about Romanians, just the foreigners who have studied in Romania.

>> No.10571958

>>10571776
Literally nothing, aside from getting in to med school and doing well enough on USMLE when you come back.

>> No.10571960

>>10571897
How long have you liked them?

>> No.10571963

>>10570387
Enlarged right ventricle. Have no idea what the pathology is. Mitral stenosis?

>> No.10571970

>>10570349
Psychiatry, the job is chill and I get to be a crypto-philosopher by writing articles about nosology.

>> No.10571974

>>10571960
Not sure if bait but I'll bite anyways. At first I was "meh, babies are boring" but when you actually get to hold a baby and feed them, then put it back in their small bed and they hold your pinky finger with their whole hand just changed it. They also had a baby that was born at 26 weeks, it could fit in my hand and the doctors were keeping him alive, they really give the babies a glimpse of hope, he was covered in tubes and bandages. I really like the idea of neonatology now.

>> No.10572004

>>10571953
>This is usually due to the selection process favoring women
This is probably the best answer people will get.

On an off-topic, when I think of a downside while working in a medical field, the one that to mine instantly - too many women.
Have had part-time experience before, working in places that only male employees & the difference is overwhelming.

>> No.10572019 [DELETED] 

>>10571963
>Have no idea what the pathology is. Mitral stenosis ?

No.

>> No.10572021

>>10571963
No. I honestly wonder how you can't see the problem here, except if you've never seen echo before.

>> No.10572045

>>10571974
ah so you learned during one of your rotations?

>> No.10572061

>>10572045
Kind of. I had childcare classes and the prof is a neo attending. She asked if some of us want to go with her on NICU. At first I didn't want to but in the end I had nothing better to do and went there. Best choice I made so far during uni.

>> No.10572226

>>10572061
wait med students can just waltz in to hospitals whenever?

>> No.10572232

>>10572021
Mitral valve doesn't close the whole way. No idea honestly.

>> No.10572245

>>10572232
Stop focusing on the heart itself and look around it. Try to describe what you see and you'll find out.

>> No.10572253

>>10572226
If the attending gave us permission then it's fine I guess.

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>tfw you hear n*rseoids yammering about essential oils and reiki

>> No.10572355

>>10572226

Yes. I had a friend who would go to the hospital in smart clothes and his white coat with a stethoscope around his neck. He would then busily patrol the corridors, while looking out of the corner of his eye to see if anyone noticed him.

>> No.10572390

>>10572355

This is a known thing affectionately called ‘patrolling’. A group of guys in the year above me, all Indian, nearly lost their place at school because they’d been going to the hospital dressed up looking for girls to talk to in waiting areas.

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>>10572390
The eternal Pajeet strikes again.

>> No.10572407

>>10572403
Speaking of pajeets what happened to the farthagging guy?

>> No.10572409

>>10572390
>group of guys
>Indian
>going to the hospital dressed up looking for girls to talk to
DESIGNATED

>> No.10572417

>>10572407
Damn, I wish I knew. RIP pajeet coffee maker and fartdump

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>mfw farthagging pajeet probably got methane intoxication

>> No.10572720

>>10572245
Tamponade?

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>>10572720
Correct (swinging heart)

>> No.10572808

>>10572762
Brushfield spots?

>> No.10572816

>>10572004
>the difference is overwhelming
Explain more, please.

>> No.10572852

>>10572816
Not him but there are plenty of actual studies describing the effects of different gender ratios on the social dynamic.

>> No.10572857

>>10572762
Down syndrome

>> No.10572859

>>10572857
Can't diagnose based on that.

>> No.10572869

>>10572852
I wanna hear what are the different dynamics, cause next year I graduate and the amount of women here is kind of creeping me out.

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>>10572808
yes, try this one

>> No.10572917

>>10572880
LOL saw it in uw days ago

>> No.10572930

So medfags, should I get a MD or DO?

>> No.10572932

>>10572880
Uh. The rash on the joints makes me think about dermatomyositis?

>> No.10572938

>>10572930
MD

>> No.10572942

>>10572938
Why do you say that? I've just been considering a DO in case my GPA is too low (I should have around 3.5-3.6).

>> No.10572960

>>10572942
GTFO you pleb

>> No.10573447

>>10572960

Rude

>> No.10573460

>>10572930
You’ll be okay with a DO as long as you don’t want to do anything super competitive. Entering surgery as a DO is a recipe for farthagging.

>> No.10573582

YOU GUYS I CUT MY FINGER ON A RAZOR BLADE AND NOW MY WHOLE HAND HURTS AND IT FEELS HOT AM I GONNA DIE?

>> No.10573588

>>10570349
Family med and orthopaedics

Each offers different benefits

Family med because it's got better lifestyle, easier to get into, good autonomy with DPC, shorter route
Ortho because of power tools, good pay and social recognition

>> No.10573719 [DELETED] 

>>10570337
I will spam the shit out of this general if nobody helps me. I repeat: will I do if I not seek help from infection? My feet and legs have become so fat now i can't fit in shoes no more. I want the infection or whatever I have to kill me. Verify me.

>> No.10573794

>>10573582
go to a fucking doctor, not /sci/ you moron

>> No.10573854

>>10570349
pharmacology bc drugs and chemistry are cool

>> No.10574104

>3 days until pulmonology exam
>just opened the book

It's another let's study a ton in a short amount of time episode

>> No.10574111

>>10573582
Yeah, just like everyone else

>> No.10574127

>>10574104
>3 days until pulmonology exam, just opened the book
>yet he wastes his time posting on a Filipino cartoon board

>> No.10574164

>>10574127
>wastes time
I think I already wasted most of it. At this point it doesn't matter that much.

>> No.10574186

Incoming M1, more /fit/ than /sci/ desu. How easy is it to fuck your classmates. I want to mark my territory like a dog.

>> No.10574192

>>10574186
See >>10572960

>> No.10574210

>>10572930
Yes.

>> No.10574213

>>10574186
>Fucking your classmates
Kek, this is so wrong. Medschool experience is going to be miserable.

>> No.10574215

>>10574213
People fuck their classmates in college all the time, why is med school different?

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Somebody just explain to me like I'm a retard how to shadow a doctor. Do I cold-call every doctor whose name I can find? Do I email every doctor my family has ever been treated by? Do I march to the hospital and just ask?
I'm serious. Somebody tell me how this is accomplished.

>> No.10574224

>>10574215
Because medschool is different? You're going to see your classmates everywhere, lectures, rotations, it will be awkward and you'll be looked upon as a fucking donkey or you'll just end up being ignored. Why tf would you get into medschool if medicine is not your main point? Never knew first years are this dumb.

>> No.10574227

>>10574224
>wanting to have sex means you're not interested in medicine
Fuck off you autist.

>> No.10574229

>>10574221
Easy. Let me give you my example. I want to practice neonatology, the attending took some of us on NICU. After that I wanted to do more neo rotations, so I just spoke to a resident there which talked to the attending, she accepted me and there you go. For you, it would be easier if your family knew a doctor and speak to him. What spec are you interested in, or it doesn't matter?

>> No.10574230

>>10574227
>wanting to have sex specifically with your colleagues
Virgin

>> No.10574232

>>10574230
>Virgin
Projecting much? It's college you joyless faggot, people want to fuck, get over it

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>>10574224
>he took the bait

>> No.10574244

>>10574232
Do as you please, I'm just saying it's not the best thing to do. Especially with your colleagues. If you fuck someone in an upper year it's fine, but not the people you're going to see everyday.

>>10574233
>I-I was pretending

>> No.10574263

>>10574232
>>10574227
>>10574186
anon you don't want to do this, women in medschool are all crazy and mostly ugly. just fuck nurses

>> No.10574285

>>10574263

That's not true. And I don't know about you guys but I can't find nurses attractive. It's just off putting to me. It is such a cliche female role and they always have this inferiority complex. Some just fetishize doctors and want to marry one for money and status. It's pathetic. Doctors who fuck nurses are losers. Basically just fuck anyone except nurses.

>> No.10574288

>>10574285
>i just can't find nurses attractive
>it is such a cliche female role
lol you sound like a feminist. enjoy your stinky pajeet medschool pussy

>> No.10574294

>>10574288

I am sorry it offends you that I find intelligence in women attractive.

>> No.10574298 [DELETED] 

>>10574294

>Women
>Intelligence

An oxymoron if I ever saw one. All women are stupid whores with low IQ. The ones who get into medical school are only allowed in to appease SJW's and meet gender equality quotas when in reality all the male admissions supervisers are aware of how inferior women are academically. You sound like a numale basedboy faggot with estrogen breasts who is freindzoned by all the stacies and vannessas he tries to fuck because he's an effeminate, emasculated loser and doesn't know what women find attraction; pro tip, it's REAL MASCULINE men. Hardcore, muscular, beards, deep voice, intelligence, a big cock, and alpha Chad attitude. Something a spineless twit like you could never understand. I'm in my 6th year of med school and have slept with 10 nurses, 15 classmates, and 1 intern. I'm basically a god at slaying medical pussy.

>> No.10574300

>>10574298

Whoa there! Looks like we have a Chad in the building!

>> No.10574307

>>10574298
are u even a med student? like almost always females has higher grades than us males

>> No.10574311

>>10574298
which university / state please, i want to join

>> No.10574314

>>10574298
And now, a /med/ pasta has been born.

>> No.10574317

>>10570337
How do I make sure that the baby I'll impregnate my wife with is a male?
I don't want any daughters, so what can I do to rig the lottery and at least raise the chances of having boys over girls?

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Thank you to all massive mongs in here for ruining what could be an interesting thread with their faggotery and shit posting 24/7. See pic related.

>> No.10574320

>>10574298
Amen.

>> No.10574322

>>10574317
In Vitro Fertilization,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_fertilisation

>> No.10574325

>>10574319
codman triangle?

>> No.10574326

Are the meme romanian "doctors" still on the pretending to be a doctor general?

>> No.10574333

>>10574307

No I am just larping/creating copypasta. I'm the same dude, I just replied to myself for fun.

>> No.10574334

>>10574326
Romanian medstud here. What's your point?

>> No.10574335

>>10574325
I would have say fir-tree more than Codman triangle.

>> No.10574339

>>10574319

Sorry I deleted my post, hopefully we can get the thread back on track. I was just bored lol. I hate /r9k/ incels. It's actually kinda sad to see them post in this thread.

>> No.10574341

>>10574339
Incel just means involuntary celibate
Not "guy who hates women"

>> No.10574343

>>10574333
Good job mate.

>> No.10574344

>>10574322
Oh that's a good one, though I wonder how I can talk her into it since neither of us are infertile, and if I managed to do so, I'll also have to sweet talk the doctor into making sure it's a male (not to mention the cost). Damn. Are there other methods?

>> No.10574352

>>10574344
talk her out that you can even choose the baby's eyes and hair color she will like that, and oh through some crisper cas 9 shit it will be amazing

>> No.10574354

>>10574341

yes but they most people on here who hate women or whine about them being in med school are incels. Let's be honest if they were actually in a fulfilling relationship or getting laid they probably would not be going on the internet to cry about women

>> No.10574357

>>10574354
Based and medpilled

>> No.10574358

>>10574354
amen

>> No.10574361
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10574361

Have any of you dealt with nurses being condescending and disrespectful? I'm a first year resident and I feel like the nurses don't take me seriously. I think it's because I look young for my age. They treat me like I'm their kid, talking to me in a cutesy voice and being touchy with me. Last night I completed a difficult intubation and afterwards the nurse actually PATTED ME ON THE FUCKING HEAD and called me a "good boy". How should I deal with this? I'm thinking of reporting these nurses for being unprofessional but I'm afraid it'll backfire.

>> No.10574362

>>10574354
It's a vicious circle
>be unattractive/socially unskilled
>become incel
>frustrated so pin it on women, sour grapes ect
>become even more unattractive as a result of bitterness
>go to step 2, repeat

>> No.10574363

>>10574361
God I wish that were me

>> No.10574370

>>10574352
hmmm maybe I could do that, though it would require a bit of machiavellianism on my part to steer towards having a boy for sure . I'll look more into it, thanks.
For me, raising a boy is a 100 times easier, and his existence is less of a hassle. A son, as soon as he hits 18, is a man, and soon as he has a sustainable job, I can for the most part stop worrying, he can go into the workd and find his own lot in life away from my wings, I'll always love him but I won't dote on him.
A daughter on the other hand, I will worry about her day and night for the rest of her life no matter what lot she finds and what can of person she becomes, not to mention she's incredibly more difficult to raise in her teenage years, yes I'll love her too, but I'll be white-haired with stress by the time she's 18 (I'm that kind of guy), so I'd rather have a son.

>> No.10574374

>>10574361
What are you, a woman? Just confront them on the spot if you don’t like their behavior.

>> No.10574375

>>10574354
Oh look, it’s seething poster again. He still thinks women will sleep with him because he sticks up for them.

>> No.10574378

>>10574374
>implying they won't accuse you of rape if you do that

>> No.10574379

>>10574375

Please see my post here

>>10571671
Now stop repeating yourself, you're like a broken record. I know you're ugly. I know you're incapable of intimacy and I realize that all attractive women find you repulsive but you need to start a diary so you can stop polluting /med/ with your faggotry.

>> No.10574382

>>10574375

why do you come to a /med/ thread to post against women? If you're a medical student I am surprised you got through the interview, seriously. You are a very flawed individual. Many women in medicine are very competent and make great physicians. are you just upset they won't fuck you?

>> No.10574390

Is it safe to take both zinc and selenium supplements at the same time?

>> No.10574395

>>10574390

If you have questions about drug interactions you're better off calling a pharmacy

>> No.10574398

>>10574390
Yes. But you should just eat healthy instead.

>> No.10574400

>>10574378
Nah

>> No.10574403

>>10574375

Instead of ripping on you for being kissless, incel, retard, etc, I will give you some advice man. Let go of your bitterness and hatred towards not only women, but others in general. It will bring you nothing but misery longterm and if you have this attitude as a doctor in your career it will bring nothing but hardship. I suggest working on yourself as much as possible, potentially even seeing a therapist. One day you will meet someone and have a good intimate relationship I am certain but the more you come online and propagate such hateful narratives, the deeper the rabbit hole becomes, and the further away some form of happiness gets. Please take from this what you will. Best of luck and much success to you.

>> No.10574404

>>10574398
I am eating healthy but the supplements were a prescription. I guess the doc would've told me if I needed to take any precautions though.
>>10574395
Doesn't this thread have pharma students too?

>> No.10574406

>>10571462
>>10571481

excellent. This is extremely enlightening. Thank you for sharing your time and energy, G*d bless

>> No.10574412

>>10574404

Yes but you never know online man. People can pretend to be pharma students, some people can give you the wrong info on purpose..you just should not depend on threads like this for your health. You would honestly be better off calling a pharmacy or in the very least looking up the selenium/zinc interaction on webMD. That one seems simple enough but don't take chances with this cesspool dude.

>> No.10574415

>>10571776
An american girl is actually doing this, but in eastern europe, was talking to her the other day. She's actually thinking of staying here too. Apparenlty the USMLE is the hardest part for you guys.
>>10571897
I actually started liking and wanting kids after my pediatrics clinical internship. I'm male too.
>>10572880
I'm for dermatomyositis too. Dd psoriasis.
>>10574221
Well, not sure really. I want to be an anesthesist and after my regular course I started asking if I can go to ORs or in ICU with doctors. Half the department knows who I am and that I'm not a complete retard already including the head prof. I don't think there's a recipe or anything.
>>10574285
The med anonettes in my and other classes are fat hotter than nurses desu.
>>10574361
I think that's everywhere. Not a resident, but I'm close with some residents. When you get more experience and you start yelling at them for doing dumb shit they'll start respecting you.


ALSO NO ONE HAS TOLD ME YET IS FARTHAGGING REAL OR YOU ARE TROLLING

>> No.10574431

>>10574415

>Farthhangging

I refuse to believe that even Americans do this. It's not even a real word just google it, 0 results.

>> No.10574447

>>10574415
It's real. One of the OBGYNs at my hospital was formally reprimanded for doing it to students. She tried to blame it on a medical condition but admin didn't buy it.

>> No.10574450

Damn, I've seen this peds senior resident with some amazing scrubs. Black scrubs with funny caricature skeletons in different colours. Any idea where to look for scrubs like those?

>> No.10574466

>>10574447
a woman? and an OBGYN? wtf?
also I wonder how that came up that the admin believed the reporters...i.e. how many of them had to bring that up. And what wrath did she bring down on them later

>> No.10574534

>>10574361

yes, catched one on talking i take to long taking samples. told them not to tell me how to do my job, I don't tell them how to do their job. if she thinks she can take bloodsamples faster, feel free to do it, but don't complain. I expect an apology, otherwise we gonna take it to the next level. Didn't saw her for several weeks afterwards, forgot about it.

In Germany it is a much steper hierarchy than in other countries since nurses did not study.
And for my future I gonna act more on this hierachy level. I want to be a team, but I am responsible and have no time for opposition.

>> No.10574537

>>10574361
>>10574378

Face them in front of others for additional social presure when you berate them. also the other gonna know not to fuck with you.

>> No.10574548

>>10574361
>good boy
I need that shit in my life!

>> No.10574772

Scrubs vs labcoats which is cooler?

>> No.10574884

>>10574772
I choose scrubs because they're comfier.

>> No.10574920

Are there other specialties that are good for research (in the private sector), aside from path?

>> No.10574991

>>10574920
What do you mean by "private sector"? Drug industry?

>> No.10574994

>>10574991
For example. Generally speaking, any companies that deal in biomed/biotech research, pharma, medical technology, that kind of stuff.

>> No.10575007

>>10574994
In drug industry physicians aren't in charge of the research part, they mainly manage clinical trials. Basically any spe can switch to DI as long as you're competent in your field. You might want a little stats background but it isn't mandatory for sure, just understand basic stuff you're supposed to learn during your residency (bias for instance).

>> No.10575016

>>10575007
>Basically any spe can switch to DI
You'll be dealing with clinical trials that are linked to your spec though right?
How's the pay compared to working at a hospital or private practice?

>> No.10575024

>>10575016
Usually you'll stay in your field more or less until you reach senior position. $$$ depends on your country I guess, but it's definitely decent.

Forget to mention that if you're not graduate in a country where there's a strong drug industry (US, UK, France, Germany, Switzerland, Japan), it might be very difficult for you (you have to be board certified in order to conduct clinical trials ofc).

>> No.10575173

>>10574334
You still think you are becoming a doctor?
How do you feel about indian doctors?

>> No.10575184

>>10574361
>"intubation"
> small enough for a woman to pat your head
Meme Specialty for a male.
They see you as a beta cuck you are. I never had this problem. I was being called a doctor since college days. Fuck the Head nurse, major boost.(especially if she is 24 and hot)

Good luck to you and try to focus on your patients not complaining about nothing on a mongolian basket weaving image board.

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10575204

>>10575184
yeah brah, yo got him.

a good example of an amerimutt or balkan wannabe chad

>> No.10575302

>>10575173
>you still think you are becoming a doctor?
I actually am becoming a doctor

>What do you think about Indian doctors
Got no idea. Haven't had interactions with them, just with Indian students which are okay-ish but talk too much.

>> No.10575349
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10575349

My program wants us to submit stool samples and blood tests for starting clinicals. Is this normal?

>> No.10575371

What's a PhD subject I can choose for studying IBD?

>> No.10575426

>>10574772
Both, scrubs are comfy and the coat tells everyone who you are.

>> No.10575443

>>10574361
Sounds like it's just the culture on the unit. That's not too bad considering how some cranky washed out nurses can be. Some units/hospitals show respect for the job hierarchy and act accordingly. Some see all members of the med team as equal and everyone is pretty chill. Then you have units where the nurses have the attitude of "i have more clinical experience than the measly 1st year resident" and treat you like a bug.

>> No.10575495
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10575495

>hospital has a no singles policy

>> No.10575540

>be med students shadowing surgeon
>ward nurse treating us like dirt when he’s not around
>needlessly rude and gruff
>she sucks up to him when he’s in the room
>she says something curt to me and other student
>surgeon overhears from outside, comes in and gives her an absolute roasting in front of us and some patients lel
>she goes quiet, tears in her eyes

Thank you based OMF surgeon

>> No.10575672

>>10575540
Why are surgeons so based

>> No.10575679

I spent 5 years "studying" pharmacy in an eastern european shithole and I honestly could not tell you the first thing about it
Should I just kms?

>> No.10575781

>>10575679
Where?

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10575822

>>10575495
>attending's falcon took my crab legs and the cafeteria only has popcorn left

>> No.10575840

How i can master anatomy ?

>> No.10575869

>>10575840
By studying it for the rest of your life.

>> No.10575989

>>10575540

Kek what did he say?

>> No.10575997

>>10574772

Are med students allowed to where a white or black tshirt/undershirt underneath the scrubs?

>> No.10576020

>>10575997
I'm sure it depends on the hospital, but at mine we're not allowed to, even if the undershirt isn't visible. It's considered an infection risk (doesn't make sense to me but it's hospital policy). Before rounds the infection control nurses lift up the med students' scrub tops to make sure they're not wearing anything underneath. It's pretty retarded desu.

>> No.10576037

>>10575540

and then we all clapped, the patient nodded, and I got invited to assist in a Whipple and a few months later matched at Mass General.

Chief of Staff. AMA

Fuck off reddit

>> No.10576041

>>10575997
>Are med students allowed to where a white or black tshirt/undershirt underneath the scrubs?

where?

>> No.10576242

>>10576041

Wear*

There are you happy now?

>> No.10576364

>>10576020
>tfw you try to wear underpants and the penis inspection nurse catches it

>> No.10576427

>>10575204
most here are wannabe balkan "doctors" and amerimutts. Thats why i come here, to shit on ppl.
>>10575302
Romanian "doctor" is not a real doctor senpai

>> No.10576543

>>10576427
>to shit on ppl
Try harder, then. I know you're seething because you're nowhere near to be a doctor, but I can assure you that you can bring your mom here, I'll check her for that HIV suspicion.

>> No.10576592
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10576592

>>10576427
>Romania

Romania has objectively one of the worst if not the worst health care system in the EU in terms of health expenditure, life expectancy, accessibility and infrastructure.

https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/health/files/state/docs/chp_romania_english.pdf

http://business-review.eu/news/romanian-healthcare-system-ranked-the-weakest-in-europe-156780

>Most hospitals in the country are in debt and even large university hospitals often lack basic supplies, such as surgical gloves and antibiotics, forcing patients to pay for such amenities out of pocket. Many buildings are in serious need of repair and sanitization. The conditions — most of which Canadians could not imagine — are fodder for the media. Imagine rusted surgical instruments, rusted examination beds, cracked and damp walls, dirty toilets and, occasionally, cockroaches.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2855911/

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10576604

>>10576592
I met a few Romanian residents in training during my rotations, and they all were terrible like dangerously terrible.

>none of them could read basic ECG
>a serious lack of hygiene
>very bad attitude toward patients and staff
>very poor physical examination skills
>don't follow recommendations

Actually they were so bad that some of them have been fired after a month, and now Romanians are blacklisted in my Uni Hospital.

>> No.10576609

>>10576604
>that pic
And here I was thinking the French healthcare system was a clusterfuck.

>> No.10576646

>>10576592
Romanian here, totally agree with this. Shitty hospitals with bad staff. The thing is that I have no idea what was the government thinking when they forbid doctors that work at hospitals to work in private practices at the same time. Most of the excellent docs work in private practice or just teach and get thrice as much money.

>many buildings are in need of sanitization
Can't say anything about the eastern Romanian part, only west, the hospitals (besides infectious diseases) are actually decent compared to the rest of the country.

>>10576604
What the fuck, kek. How were they accepted if they lacked so much? That must be some kind of exception, most of the docs that go outside are very competent and are on point with everything.

>> No.10576650

>>10575024
>you'll stay in your field
Does that imply you need to come from a clinical spec and not surg?

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10576658

>>10576592
>>10576604
Look at this shit. Who in their right mind that finished 6 years of uni would want to work here? I feel really disgusted towards my country, and I really don't want to go outside and be an expat.

>> No.10576676

>>10576650
Medical more than clinical (I know a radiologist who work for Siemens).

>> No.10576679

>>10576658
If you want some hospital experience stories.

>be me
>3rd year med student
>teaching hospital that looks a bit better than pic posted
>IM ward
>patient with congestive heart failure gets admitted
>2 hours later goes into cardiac arrest
>we were all in ecocardiography room
>nurses didn't notice he was dead
>cardiologist came in and saw him there
>Oh shit
>been without oxygen for at least 5 minutes
>CPR for 30 mins
>Doesn't come back

And this is how I witnessed the first death in my med school. Want more "Romania is a disgusting country and healthcare is shit" stories?

>> No.10576680

>>10576676
So there are no industry opportunities for surgeons?

>> No.10576690

>>10576680
As far as I know, surgeons aren't very useful in the drug industry.

>> No.10576696

>>10576679

kek

>> No.10576702

>>10571889
Would like to know this, especially
>China and HK
>Japan
>Singapore
>SK

>> No.10576708

>>10576679
hell yes

>> No.10576714 [DELETED] 

>>10576702
Do you fluent in Japanese, Malay, Cantonese or Korean?

>> No.10576717

>>10576714
Is that all it takes?

>> No.10576719

>>10576702
Are you fluent in Japanese, Cantonese, Malay or Korean?

>> No.10576729

>>10576696
>>10576708
Okay.

>be me
>4th year med student
>have ortho rotations
>ortho is one of the more "high tech" wards
>patient is out of the OR
>very laborious surgery, the guy fell from an electric pole, our prof told us his tibias were literally in his boots when he came in
>amputated both legs
>disfigured, needed a plastic surgery for a new nose
>patient kills himself during night shift
>we were on that shift
>Docs find out only in the morning
>patient literally stabbed himself with an IV needle in his neck multiple times

And that's the 2nd death I've ever witnessed as a student. On the night shift most of them are sleeping, the pt was in a room by himself in the aseptic ward because his surgery was very laborious and the risk of infection was trough the roof. Only certain nurses can go in there and none of them gave a fuck. But hey, at least the surgery went well, I guess.

>> No.10576740

>>10573582
>feels hot
Definitely endocarditis.

>> No.10576741

>>10576717
No, you'll often have to be re-certified. But you didn't answer, do you speak any of those languages?

>> No.10576750

>>10576729

Jesus fucking christ it's like reading Mikhail Bulgakov's "A Country Doctors Notebook" in Romania

>> No.10576758

>>10576741
I'm decent with Jap, not fluent yet though.

>> No.10576767
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10576767

All right, since nobody explained how to find a shadow in simple enough terms for me, here's what I did:
>I created a document sorted by specialty
>I found every doctor in a 15 mile radius working in that specialty and put them in the document, sorted by subspecialty and where they practice
>I marched to the hospital and got a single business card
If all of their email addresses follow the same format, I can infer the work email for each of these doctors using only their full names.
I am about to cold-call/email every single one of them, one after the other, until one of them says yes, and then I am going to tell HR I got a "yes" and they can finally give the forms to sign.
That's all I need. One doctor at this hospital to say "yes" so HR can give me the forms. To that end, I have stalked and will now commence pestering them until I get that "yes."
You made me do this.

>> No.10576776

>>10576750
I've got only one more

>be me
>4th year med student
>ER rotation
>pt comes in after an altercation
>beat up pretty nicely
>Arab that doesn't speak Romanian
>IV's, cervical collar, etc
>spoke with him in english
>"I'm going to call my friends and beat the shit out of that motherfucker"
>doc tells him to calm down
>he doesn't
>when the resident I was shadowing and me were at another case the guy disappears
>ambulance comes back with him out cold
>they found him in the parking lot dead

Cool stuff, I guess. Got one more that doesn't imply and deaths

>same shit in the ER
>police comes in with a 30 something F
>drug abuse, they took her into custody when she was in the middle of an intersection conducting traffic kek
>was assigned to do ECG, draw blood and take her to rads
>she wore a body underneath and when I did the ECG she only made sexual comments
>took her to rads
>takes down her top and body and lays on the table topless
>rad tech visibly irritated
>"You don't like my tits?"
>husband comes in with child
>wtf.mp3

She consumed cocaine and meth, she has a husband that looked pretty respectable and a 10 y/o daughter. People nowadays..

>> No.10576779

>>10576758
>I'm decent with Jap, not fluent yet though.

There's a few video on YT about that. That's close to impossible for a foreign physician to practice in Japan for many reasons.

>> No.10576824

>>10576779
Yeah I was expecting that, nips make it pretty hard for foreigners to work there. Oh well.
Since I speak fluent english, what are the countries that aren't too hard to relocate to as a European graduate?

>> No.10576843

>>10576824
It depends which country in the EU, your spe etc... Be more specific.

>> No.10576849

>>10576767
God bless you, you've got what it takes. In my family's experience it was indeed with a family doc from the past or a family-friend doc. If you don't have one of those then what you plan sounds alright

>> No.10576852

>>10576843
France, I haven't chosen a specialty yet but my grades are good. Quebec is an obvious option but surely not the only one?

>> No.10576863

>>10576852
If we speak about English-speaking countries:

Without re-certification: Quebec, UK, Ireland, some exotic location such as International Hospital in Vietnam where you'll work in English (http://www.fvhospital.com/)) etc...

US: close to impossible without a US residency

Canada outside Quebec, Australia: definitely possible (after assessment for Australia and after re-certification in Canada I think) if you meet language requirements, can be a long process for though.

That being said, medical specialties are much more exportable than surgical ones.

>> No.10576866

>>10576863
Nice, thank you man.
>medical specialties are much more exportable
Why? Does that include surgical spes that can also be practiced exclusively as medical like ENT?

>> No.10576876

>>10576866
Because surgeons usually practice where they received their training (connections, people get to know them...).

>> No.10576885
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10576885

From pulmonology. Who's that pokemon?

>> No.10576901

>>10576876
Ok, that applies to ENT, ophtho, OB/GYN and uro as well even though you can have a practice without necessarily performing surgical procedures?

>> No.10576934

>>10576901

Frankly IDK. For sure it'll be more difficult to practice abroad for a surgeon but your question is so specific that I can't give you a valuable answer. I guess you can find those infos online.

>> No.10576943

>>10576934
Sure, I'll look around then.

>> No.10577008

>>10574431
> just google it, 0 results.
>>10574447
I refuse to believe.
>>10574772
Scrubs
>>10576729
Yikes.
>>10576767
The absolute madman.
>>10576885
Ugh always hated these. Obstruction?

>> No.10577057

>>10577008
FVC1 is low, VC is low IPB is normal. Restriction.

>> No.10577062

>>10574431
>It's not even a real word just google it, 0 results.

>not even a real word
What the fuck does that even mean?

>not on Google
So? Any new term won't be on Google. It's a new phenomenon in niche circles.

>> No.10577077

>>10577062

It's not real. Get over it.

>> No.10577293

>>10571481
goddamn this is good advice

>> No.10577323

>>10570451
I dont care if you are male or female as long as you dont advance with sucking dick you are ok in my book.;

>> No.10577338

>>10576885
I recognize that outline.
Its Koffing!

>> No.10577344

Why is pulmonology so easy? Even the "rarer" diseases have pretty easy mechanisms in which they manifest. The only thing that makes me take a while are the treatment and management of the patient (with imunocompetent or imunosupressed patient)

>> No.10577347

>>10577338
Looks like Metapod to me.

>> No.10577353
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10577353

Can this work?

>> No.10577356

>>10577077
>if I can’t find it on Google it’s not real

Keep up the delusion goy

>> No.10577366

>>10577353
I doubt it but at the same time I absolutely hope it works, this man would become one of the greatest memes in history.

>> No.10577499

>>10577353
Italians look like mad scientists.

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10577532

>>10577499
Dude, he's clearly the MGSV doctor. I mean look at this.

>> No.10577537

>>10577532
>no mad neurosurgeon wrinkles
DELET!

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10577550

anyone here /BSMD/ program?

>> No.10577586

>>10577550
I'm in a /BDSM/ program

>> No.10577666

Past a certain point, is a high MCAT just a meme?
I always hear those “I have a 3.9 and 524 and didn’t get in anywhere” horror stories but I have to wonder if some of these people are just terrible at interviews and have literally done nothing but study at college.

>> No.10577683

Where's the frenchie that posts ECGs and stuff?

>> No.10577710

How do I get rid of keratosis on my fucking arms, it’s ugly as shit I hate it

>> No.10577714

>>10577710
Call your physician for an appointment and voila.

>> No.10577717

>>10577714
Can a derm actually just burn it off? From the looks of it it’s keratosis pilaris but I’m no doctor.

>> No.10577718

>>10577717
Post pic.

>> No.10577751
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10577751

>>10577718

>> No.10577780

>>10577751
Yeah, call your pcp.

>> No.10577784

>>10577780
Is it not keratosis?

>> No.10577794

>>10577784
Honestly have no idea

>> No.10578041
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10578041

>>10577683
Reporting in. Tests soon so I can't be here often :^)

>> No.10578094

>>10578041
Exams coming for me too, pulmonology is next. Was curious about stuff you'd post. You always post some shit that I have never seen but it's interesting.

I have no idea about that, tho. I only see tremor, haven't had neurology yet and I don't really have experience with such patients. Looks interesting and would like to know.

>> No.10578104

>>10578041
>>10578094
Wait, I remember ER rotation with a drunk guy that came in and did this. They sent him to neuro in case he had dyspraxia. Is this it?

>> No.10578135
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10578135

>>10578094
>>10578104

Cerebellar ataxia (finger to nose test shows hypermetria).

>> No.10578190

>>10578135
False.

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10578296

>>10577057
>mfw
>>10577353
Nope. He's a retard with a God complex.
>>10578041
>>10578135
>>10578190
I'd also say neocerebellar syndrome.

>> No.10578469

What speciality should I go into if I don't like team work and I'm more of an independent individual?

>> No.10578494

>>10578469
Path, psych, neuro, card, ophto

>> No.10578511

Hey I'm not a med student or anything but I had a top molar extracted about a month ago, I just scheduled an appointment to get an implant but say I didn't, would all of my top teeth shift to the side to accommodate the missing tooth? Or just the teeth around it?

>> No.10578634

>>10578469
learn how to socialize like an adult

>> No.10578884

>>10570440
And when the acceptance emails come in, people drop everything like a ton of bricks.

Getting in a box-ticking game anon. Play or gtfo.

>> No.10578922

>>10577356

I am going to take your free speech away

>> No.10579061

>>10570349
Neurology because I was going towards being a gangbanger in high school but during college, a neurosurgeon let me shadow and now I'm in med school.
I've grown to be curious about the organ that holds who we are in it.

>> No.10579348
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10579348

What is /med/'s thoughts on dietetics and dieticians?

Considering going into it as I really like nutrition, but just being a nutritionist...well...there are loads of them already.

>> No.10579364

Should I care that Singapore doesn't consider the med school I want to go to as good enough for them? They removed the University of Western Ontario from their list of approved med schools for overseas study. No reasons given.

>> No.10579368

>>10570337
Hey Anons, I had a relatively severe accident not too long ago. Got a concussion and some bruises and apparently an enormously high CK Value (creatin Kenase).

They're pumping 3 - 1l infusions a day in me and I have to drink additional 3 liters a day just to compensate for the 40.000 U/l in my blood. As far as I'm concerned the normal value is around 170 U/l

After one night and 3l of NACL later, the value shrinked to 20.000, which makes me optimistic that they'll release me soon again. Now some questions for you medanons:
>What would have happend if I didn't went to the hospital? (My relatives forced me to go, because my Chest is numb and still no one knows why)
>What do you think, will it leave any marks on my kidneys?
I'm fairly young and would prefere my kidneys to be healthy as long as possible


Thank you very much in advance

>> No.10579374

>>10579364
hahaha man that is some bullshit, wtf

>canada
maybe something related to chinese students? that's all i can think of
write them and ask

>> No.10579410

>>10579374
I think it may be as you mentioned; too much competition from other foreign students.
I guess I shouldn't be too worried considering it's Singapore and not you know, the USA saying the school isn't good enough.

>> No.10579415

>>10579410
oh right, well yeah just find somewhere else then homie
i thought maybe you were a singaporean living overseas and wanted to study then go home and just found out you were up shit creek

>> No.10579444

>>10579415
Yeah, I'm a Canuck.
I still want to go to the university I mentioned before, I just wondered if it's a bad sign that the school is sort of blacklisted by a country. Hoping it wasn't for the dumb reason of not admitting enough of their students if they eventually say what caused that decision to be made. If there are actual legitimate problems with the school, I'll look elsewhere. I just want rationale for their decision here.

>> No.10579456

>>10579444
exactly man
find out the reason if you can but be quiet about it

call them and if you get no results then try emailing, but you don't want to find out in a few years that there was some major scandal brewing and the singaporeans have just quietly backed away before it blows
otherwise you're looking at fucking up your reputation through no fault of your own

>> No.10579493

>>10579444
Why do you want to go to western in particular? Or do you mean you've been accepted and plan to go there next year?

>> No.10579523

>>10579493
It's close to home, and their neurology, neurosurgery, neuroscience programs are some of the best, at least in this area. I would like to go neuro if possible.
I still have a year and a half left in my undergrad and didn't apply yet, so I just plan/hope to go there in the future. If not, al least U of T and McMaster are close by.

>> No.10579611

>>10579523

You're not even in med school yet 90% probability you'll find something else interesting desu. Neurology seems cool but I know neurosurgery is a garbage tier specialty. Also basically all med schools in Canada are the same in terms of quality. Go where you can. I'm IP for UBC but since my overall average is 80 I am almost certain I am fucked and will need to take the IMG route.

>> No.10579634

>>10579611
>neurosurgery is a garbage tier specialty.
What?

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10579643

Welp, here I go. First ten emails, sent.
I'm starting with residents. They're just-out of school, so I hope they'll be sympathetic.

>> No.10579647

>>10579634

>long fucking hours
>Torturous residency
>High risk/libility/ultra demanding
>Highly competitive to match into
>niggertier god complex colleagues (as is the case with all surgeons).

When I see premeds say they want to be neurosurgeons I tell them to shut the fuck up and go back to watching Dr Strange or House.

>> No.10579656

>>10576885
Asthma?

>> No.10579680
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10579680

>>10579368
You had Rhabdomyolysis, probably from a muscle injury, usually a crush injury

Untreated it will lead to renal failure and cardiac arrest from hyperkalemia.

Treatment is basically ensuring maximum hydration so the kidneys will continue to clear the breakdown products. As long as you are making urine you will be OK.

Note that CK is a market of muscle tissue breakdown and not the same thing as Creatinine (the marker for kidney function).

The question of whether your Acute Kidney Injury (AKI) will lead to permanent damage depends on the extent of the initial injury. Ask your internal medicine or nephrology doctor what they think. Since you did not require dialysis, I suspect your prognosis is very good.

>> No.10579696

>>10579656
No. You can't tell if it's asthma just from that. You need bronchodilatation test too. It's a restrictive ventilatory dysfunction, that's it. Plus that asthma is obstructive. You have FVC which is low (64) , then FEV1 which is low (60) and the fraction FEV1/FVC which is normal (97). To see if it's asthma, you have to take the initial test, see if it's obstruction, then give the patient some bronchodilatators and re-take the spirometry test. If FEV1 has been elevated by 12 percent, then the test is positive for asthma.

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>>10579696
Is the PRE and POST not pre/post bronchodilators?

It looks like tthe initial FEV1/FVC is 67% predicted, which is < 70%, and the "post" is 76% predicted, which seems to be obstructive lung disease to me

But I don't often read flow volume loops

>> No.10579727
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10579727

>>10579348
>be Dietician
>nobody in the general public is willing to pay you to tell them to eat less shit
>main hope for employment is in a hospital, calculating TPN and recommending tube feeding
>end up working for Enterprise Rental Cars

>>10579523
>>10579611
>be Neurology
>consulted by other specialty because nobody can figure out symptoms
>diagnose patient with cool neurological diease
>"can't treat this"

>be Neurosurgery
>7 years of training
>100 hrs/week
>lie about duty hours every month
>q4 24 call
>7 years
>watch other specialties become attendings while you're still a resident
>never see wife and children
>become attending
>$600k salary
>sued more than any other specialty
>still q4 24h call
>still never see wife and children

But seriously anon, you are indeed allowed to be inspired and have hopes and dreams as an undergraduate, and you'll be allowed to change them (or not) as you progress through medical school

>> No.10579729

>>10579727
Neurology sounds cool though

>> No.10579735

>>10578511
Your teeth can't move about your mouth that easily there might be a little shift, but it won't be something big. There are people living without teeth for years.
>>10579643
post results lul
>>10579713
That's what confused me too, but apparently it's restrictive. Anyway most pulmonary pathology is apparent and you can predict if wether someone has obstruction or restriction, you know not rely solely on the spirometry, I think it's more to decide how bad the condition is.

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10579736

>>10579680
Thank you very much, kind medic Anon!

>> No.10579739

>>10579729
It's boring as shit. I'm in a neuro rotation atm. Brain hemorrhages and traumas are in the main ICU, brain tumors are in neurosurgery, strokes are a bit interesting, but they all just treat them with antiedemic therapy and fibrinolysis if they are in the terapeutic window. They either survive and are cripples for life or die. Other pathology is fucking back pain and neuropathies.

>> No.10579743

>>10579739
What about all the weird shit neuro is known for dealing with?

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>>10579743
Inpatient bread and butter is strokes, seizures, acute neuromuscular diseases and altered mental status/dizziness/other bullshit of unclear etiology. It's mostly algorithmic, the services are overloaded and it gets old really fast like anon pointed out >>10579739 here

Very rarely, they make an absolutely crazy diagnosis from physical exam findings, for example, spotting a cerebellar tumor on a patient about to be discharged because they noted VERTICAL nystagmus on exam

I never did any outpatient neuro rotations, but the residents were generally much happier and the lifestyle seems to be better.

In general, i found the neuro residents to be either genius wizards at localizing lesions that puzzled my medicine collegues, or completely total dipshits who couldn't tell you which side was the top of the ECG.

>> No.10579756

>>10579713
It's pre. The patient came in, heavy smoker, doc told him to do the test, this came out. Look at the percent on the long list, not the outlined chart. The values that have a little mark near them are the values we are looking for and look for the percentages. It's restrictive all the way.

>> No.10579761

>>10579751
Not him but neuro is the opposite of rheumatology from what I've heard. In neuro you know what the patient has but you don't treat it and in rheumatology you don't know what the patient has but you still give treatment.

>> No.10579768

>>10579751
You got the rest of that pic?

>> No.10579770

>>10579751
>i found the neuro residents to be either genius wizards at localizing lesions that puzzled my medicine collegues, or completely total dipshits
From your experience, which of your rotations had the most competent residents on average?

>> No.10579776

>>10579743
It's just very rare. Hereditary degenerative deseases like muscular dystrophies, spinal atrophies, weird metabolic syndromes are diagnoesed by pedriatic neurologists and they don't survive until they get old enough sadly. Creutzfeld-Jakob is fucking rare, neurosyphilis is rare I dunno I'm probably missing some spicy shit. From the rare deseases I've seen ALS and Charcot-Marie-Toot desease.
>>10579751
>In general, i found the neuro residents to be either genius wizards at localizing lesions that puzzled my medicine collegues, or completely total dipshits who couldn't tell you which side was the top of the ECG.

This is also true.

I dunno, maybe it's just not my thing.

>> No.10579778

>>10579768
Just search on Google. Medical specialities comic or cartoon and you have the speciality stereotypes for some specs.

>> No.10579779

Somebody explain to me the difference between silk, catgut, and daxon.

>> No.10579780
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>>10579756
So the text is pretty small to read, but I see

FVC 2.35 (56% pred)
FEV1 1.59 (45% pred)
FEV1/FVC 67.7% (86% pred)

Doesn't the FEV1/FVC of 67.7% < 70% imply obstructive disease, or at the very least a mixed picture? I thought the definition of restrictive disease is a normal FEV1/FVC

What numbers are you using to classify this as a restrictive disease?

Again, I don't often read flow-volume loops so I am open to learning.

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>>10579778
Yeah, there it is.

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>>10579780
Are you sure you're looking at the right values? FEV1/FVC is 97 which is perfectly normal. FEV1 is below 80 and FVC is below 80 too. Our prof told us to look for the percentages most of the time and don't make it complicated by reading the other values. Spirometry will be a part of tomorrow's exam anyways so that's why I focus on percentages. Here you have the pic. I outlined them. FVC and FEV1 have noted CVF and VEMS which is the Romanian translation for the values, that might have make you look elsewhere.

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10579795

>>10579779
See https://www.wikem.org/wiki/Sutures

>> No.10579805

>>10579791
Ah, I was looking at the leftmost columns.

>FEV1/FVC 97%
>FEV1 2.12L (60% predicted)
>FVC 2.77L (64% predicted)

With FEV1/FVC 97% > 70% and FVC < 80% you do indeed have a restrictive pattern

>> No.10579815

>>10579805
In the end patient was found with pulmonary fibrosis due to an older pneumonia which explains the restrictive dysfunction. But yeah, spirometry is not that fun to read, I hope the prof will be a good man and won't ask shitty obscure questions.

>> No.10579845

>>10579789
Never understood why rad was so well paid.

>> No.10579857

>>10579845
Easy. They're paid a ton because they're supposed to stay in "radiation" most of the time but that's the rad tech's job. IR is paid even better. Family medicine , psych, neuro, IM and anaesthesia are the most accurate ones.

>> No.10579869

"On more detailed questioning, the patient mentioned that he was seeing a naturopathic specialist who had prescribed high doses of vitamin D, advising him to take 8 drops of a specific brand daily."

http://www.cmaj.ca/sites/default/files/additional-assets/site/press/cmaj.180465.pdf

One hell of a case, here. Why are naturopaths allowed to practice, anyway? I mean, it's the patient's fault too because he considered seeing a naturopath but still...

>> No.10579900

>>10579857
>they're supposed to stay in "radiation" most of the time
So is there a heightened cancer risk for rads or not at all? Do any specs have an actual increased cancer risk?

>> No.10579904 [DELETED] 

>at gym water fountain
>the drain is clogged so excess water is now in the sink
>get a drink
>water from the fountain splashes in water in the sink and gets into my eye
>think of all the people that water touched

Ok so how many diseases do I have now?

>> No.10579908

>>10579900
for rads? Not at all. IR? Hell yes.

>Do any specs have an actual increased cancer risk?
Yes, pathology, because you work with carcinogenic substances.
Psych is paid but no cancer risk, you're risking your life there because you never know when a patient might jump to punch you/kill you.
Some surgical specs that are exposed to radiations are ortho and urology, both of them have some kind of risk because they work in radiation heavy environment. Cardiologists too, interventional cardiology requires the doctor to work in a radiation heavy field.

>> No.10579915

>>10579914
>>10579914
>>10579914

New thread.

>> No.10580198

>>10571341
>Anesthesiologist
>$300k starting
What planet are you living on? Google says the average wage is $169k.