/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10566140

academia is if you can see yourself in research , otherwise its a waste of time

Anything that has you learning on the job is not worth your time. Mopping shit can be learned on the job. Go for electrical engineering if you really want to larp as a electrical wizard.

>write philosopher as a second job
Nevermind OP is a complete idiot. Sorry I bothered.
>>10566297
I support your decision to become an electrician

>>10566140
No, the earnings growth diminishes faster and at a lower level.
t. Tradie who is desperately trying to get that shit off my resume
>but he made $10 in 5 mins, that's like $120 an hour
Only because it was a bs job, real hour+ jobs you can't charge $120/hr labor or people stop asking for your services. Plus overhead and all.
There is a limit to what one person can do and a cost associated with hiring help.
So imagine you can realistically work 6 hours a day long term (can't literally warp drive to the next job), you charge that pretty exorbitant $120 an hour, minus $40 overhead minimum, $80/hr for 6 hours, for the year $124,800 less taxes.
That's pretty much the top end btw.
Versus banking where you could get up to the $400,000 neighborhood at the top end, not including corporate officers.
A wall street senior _analyst_ makes that in salary plus bonus.

>>10566328
Snr analysts making ~$125k to clarify.
$400k is more like MD.

>>10566140
>passionate about philosophy and economics
>only started studying finance to make money
>I speak 6 languages
>I have pretty good social skills too


seems to me like you're just another entitled turd

>>10566140
im not putting words in your mouth and i shouldn't even have to point this out, but just in case you are actually retarded:

electrician =/= electrical engineer. like, not even close.

>>10566140
>maths in god tier
>philosophy in shit tier

wew to the lad

>>10566140
this chart was made by bugmen

>>10566140
move to another country first

>>10566140
Why is chemistry better than biochemistry?
t. butthurt biochemist

>>10566140
Well it's certainly worth finishing your degree. Then when you retrain as an electrician you have a leg up for starting your own business and handling your finances or promotion with in an established company.

Don't know why i would need to say this to a finance major but don't judge a man on his belongings in this day and age. These tradies have banks throwing loans at them from day 1.

>>10566140
probably varies a lot where you live. I'm from Canad and trades is a very solid career. Electrician will have you earning about 90k + over time. And that isn't me pulling numbers out of my ass, you can just look up union journeyman rates. And that comes with excellent benefits, pension, etc.
My dad works as a powerline technician and grossed almost 180k last year, granted with quite a bit of overtime, but still, he makes almost $60 an hour now as a foreman. I have a masters in Chemistry and made 44k in comparison.

>>10566670
>loans are income

>>10566140
The most obvious solution lies in unteached subjects. Thermodynamics is what humanity don't handle. Not even newtonian movements of spiecie are optimalized to final extend.

>>10566331
More like a VP's salary. MD is gonna be higher than that.

>>10566140
Where does linguistics fall into this chart?

>>10567174
Somewhere arbitrary, just like every other subject in it.

>>10567174
>>10567174
>>10566623
>>10566388
>>10566367
it's a meme chart. i'm studying EE and no way is the average EE job better in terms of salary, satisfaction, etc. than say a pilot or doctor.

>>10567269
I know pilots and my wife is a doctor. EE is much better in terms of satisfaction.

Pilot
-Minimum wage for a decade until you get your hours
-Stuck in shitty small towns flying herpes covered drunk natives to the hospital for your first 10 year
-Huge dept

Doctor
-Deal with the shittiest people on the planet constantly
-Horrible smells, infections etc
-Wife had to give medical treatment to a sex offender that just raped and attempted to murder a child
-Constant drama since it is all women run
-Hude dept

>>10568136
Forgot to mention for doctor shift working sucks ass

>>10566140
>All the enginigger shit
>At the top
Spotted the enginigger

>>10568140
The thing is all those problems with Pilots go away if you go the military route, (except living in a military town), which is what i'm going to try when I graduate.

>>10566140
>studying finance to make money
Lmao have fun compiling excel stuff 9 hours a day 6 days per week

>>10568207
spotted salty physicist for only being god tier

>>10566140
>pic related
Source?

>>10570874
why would you want a sauce for that retarded pic? also you are a dumb newfag these pictures are posted here all the time

this is coming from an EE but
>art and communications higher than architecture? architecture is in two different places on this list
>zoology not in suicide-tier
>"electrical technology" not in suicide-tier
>jobs are rated by durrrrr i just made this shit up on the spot durrrr
>anatomy in great-tier? who the fuck studies "anatomy"? is that a real thing? its higher than mechE too?
>life sciencies and "networking" higher than geology
this list was made by the lowest iq human being that has ever lived

>>10570902
Electrical technology is only suicide tier due to the fact they work with high voltage

How good is automobile engineering?

I see mechanical engineering in the chart but the move from petrol to electric cars scare me. I just finished me 5th semester out of 8 total

>>10571151
>needlessly specialising because of a trend
>in a subset of the field no less

dont do this

>>10566140
I really like Maths, physics and hardware, but I do LOVE programming. So I can't really decide if going with Computer Engineering or Software Engineering, at first I though Software Engineering was the clear choice yet I see many anons from /sci/ and /g/ that discourage the latter one. Which one do you think I should go with and why do you think many anons dislike SE?

>>10571188
>Maths, physics and hardware
Comp eng

>>10566140
fuck off

>>10566140
Electrician guy is doing electrician stuff on the side, that's not his main job.

>>10566140
>I speak 6 languages, and I have pretty good social skills too, so I think I'd make a good enterpreneur.
OOOOOFFF

>>10568140
not if you're opto or derma

>>10571188
CS and major/minor in EE, math or physics. Don't fall for the "muh CE rigor epeen" meme. Software companies actively discriminate against EE and CEs in hiring. If you're smart petition for credit and start taking grad level courses.

>>10571360
Yeah but he wont get to do any math, physics, or HW working for some gay SW company.

>>10566140
>computer science
>not Above Unbelievable Tier
Shit list.

>>10571373
Why /sci/ despises CS and SE?

>>10571984
I suppose they are just jealous of people who take CS/SE and are later able to earn 140k with 5y experience and 200k+ with 10+y experience while working normal shifts in good environment in FMAAG or whatever

>>10566140
here >>10572786

>>10570902
why would zoology be suicide tier don't they usually do well

>>10566140
why is chemistry in god tier

>>10566140
>suicide tier
>foreign languages
depends on the language but these are typically high achievers due to the intelligence required to become truly adept at a foreign language.
they also have many unique job opportunities
>military
depends on what country you're from
in america, 3-6 years in the air force or navy will gives you full funding for college to get a proper degree and you'll graduate with $0.00 in debt so it's actually a top tier choice depending on your situation

>>10566140
Who the fuck abbreviates engineer as engy? For second I thought engy was short for energy and was confused by what in the fuck biomed energy and software energy was.

>>10566140
this chart gives me aids why the fuck is "college education" in good tier what the fuck even is that

>>10566140
>I speak 6 languages, and I have pretty good social skills too
Where I live, some top-class restaurants would pay a shitton for a waiter that meets these criteria (they basically cater to rich tourists and businesspeople)

>>10566140
>modern microbiology is almost completely molecular biology
>good tier
>modern biology (a shit hodgepodge of phylogenetics and evo bio) and life sciences, whatever the fuck that is supposed to be
>great tier
Shit chart.

>>10573154
SERIOUSLY ANSWER THIS PLEASE

>>10571151
If it moves, a ME designed it. You probably will never work on cars anyway, instead you will design HVAC or sewage systems.

>>10568207
Why are you surprised professions that work in the private sector make more money than grant babbys in academia?

>>10566140
>psychology in shit tier
>when I'm making over 100k per year in private practice as a sole proprietor

>>10575951
Let me guess, doctor? If so that would be god tier in reality.

>>10575951
So does your work actually benefit society? Have you felt that you made lasting positive changes on your patients?

>>10576321
He has taken the weight off their pockets significantly. A true bullshit merchant. He's even proud of it too.

>tfw pre- school special needs teacher

>>10566140
>tfw ChemE student
>tfw everyone says that the math is the hardest in ChemE
>tfw pass all math courses
>tfw fail thermodynamics and reactor-design, the most ChemE courses there are
>tfw all those in class who have failed the math courses pass thermodynamics and reactor-design
>tfw I subsequently lose my will to keep fighting

>>10575951
Psychology is the pinnacle of... in fact, I don't even think it can be called 'pseudoscience' - just a bunch of indefensible bullshit theories.

>>10566140
>charges 10 bucks for a 5 minute job
You forgot he had to drive there and then back you mongoloid

>>10576794
Maybe ChemE is just not for you. If you're good on calculus then try EE.

>>10575951
>>10576321
Seriously, I am genuinely curious, no judgement here, please answer.

>passionate about philosophy and economics
>decided to study finance
You probably dont make much because you're a fucking dumbass

What do you do when you have as wide arrange of interests from physics, to astronomy, to computers, biology, hardware, history etc...?

>>10577889
Find a degree that covers most of those stuff. For me it was biomedE and i study humanities on the side

>>10568136
That depends on the specialty you go into in medicine.

>>10566140
The university intellectuals also play an important role in carrying out the System's trick. Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values.

Because they are the teachers of young people, the university intellectuals are in a position to help the System play its trick on the young, which they do by steering young people's rebellious impulses toward the standard, stereotyped targets: racism, colonialism, women's issues, etc. Young people who are not college students learn through the media, or through personal contact, of the "social justice" issues for which students rebel, and they imitate the students. Thus a youth culture develops in which there is a stereotyped mode of rebellion that spreads through imitation of peers—just as hairstyles, clothing styles, and other fads spread through imitation.

>>10578455
Rebellion is the though of the cuck thinker though. The state has given us immeasurable luxuries and its idiotic to disrespect it

>>10568675

>militairy pilot
>not a shit salary

Pick 1

>>10566140
As much as I like you sucking my Aerospace Engy dick, Petroleum engineer should not be up top, the market is very temperamental. I know several petroleum engineers out of work right now, and I live in Houston.
Otherwise this checks out in that it perfectly conforms to my biases and preconcieved notions, but that is just a shit tier sociology idea isn't it...

>>10578428
True. Wife works in Emerg

>>10578483
You don't need a good salary in the military. Literally everything that a civilian would spend money on is covered by taxpayers from food to housing, to education, even daycare and health insurance for your rugrats. And active duty still get paid on top of all that, an amount that is way more than adequate.

>>10566328
I call bullshit, here in America journeyman electricians easily make $100/hr at a minimum, drag out their work, and and act lazy as fuck.

>t. built automated megafarms in the Midwest

>>10566140
You're passionate about finance and economics, a polyglot, and you have good social skills, and you're jealous of an electrician? Why are you aspiring to be a tradesman when you could aspire to be the owner of the company that employs the tradesmen? Also shit chart.

>>10577889
Astrobiology. Design telescopes that can detect potentially life-supporting atmospheres on exoplanets.

>>10578479
>The state has given us
Holy shit you massive fucking idiot. You disgusting cuck.
I bet you think rights are something that is given to you by the state as well.

>>10578428
Good luck getting into dermatology. All the good medical professions make less than 1 percent of doctors. Now compare the one percent of engineers/geologists/programmers with the one percent of doctors. Try being a entrepreneur as a doctor.
t. E.E. who owns private business, gf is PharmD

>>10566140
Is Electrical Engy. equivalent to Electrical Engineering?
t. brainlet

>>10580051
no

>usefulness to market
good slave