/sci/ - Science & Math

>http://www.alternativephysics.org
allow me to preemptively yikes

>>10557185
Oh shit I have been countered. How do I delete a thread?

>>10557181

>alternativephysics.org

That a big YIKES from me

>>10557203
Ouchh! How could I have miscalculated this bad? Mods pls delet thread, thanks.
Now tell me why I'm wrong.

>>10557181
except time dilation has a real effect on global communication networks that has to be corrected, so it's an established fact

>>10557235
Which can easily be attributed to gravity's effect on atomic clocks. What then?

>>10557240
>gravity's effect on atomic clocks
Which is time dilation, you dimwit.

>>10557235

This.

GPS satellites literally have to adjust for the time difference that builds up over time.

>>10557247
Which is clock dilation, double dimwit

>>10557252
>clock dilation

>>10557181
>I don't understand it, therfore it must be wrong
We can literally measure it.

It is the same reason rockets fly higher when a high speed gyroscope is in contact with the mass in motion. You guys and your interest in time dialation is a matter of capacitance and your moment of inertia. With enough properly applied capacitance any thing should be possible.

>>10557181
the clocks on the GPS satellites run 38 microseconds faster per day than the clocks on the Earth. The GPS calculated positions would quickly drift into error, accumulating to 10 kilometers per day (6 mi/d). This is corrected for in the design of GPS.

>>10557181
OP be so kind and please stop wasting oxygen

>>10557252

>>10557187
you click the check box next to the title line of your thread and then click the delete bottom at the bottom of the page

>>10557181
>Makes no logical sense
How does time dilation make no logical sense?

>>10557181
>http://www.alternativephysics.org/book/TimeDilation.htm
this site fucking assumes that time is universal to show that it being relative doesnt make sense
there isnt a single true sentence on this entire page
kys retard

>>10557181
>Babby's first Lorentz transform

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvajuvSpF4

>>10557265
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>>10557355
This is now a brainlet thread

Muons faggot

>>10557247
Thanks for the laugh man I was feeling down today until I read this.

>>10557252
how do retards like you see the world?
is it dimly lit like the rest of your brain?
do all the details just fade into the background when you dont strain to look at them?
how difficult is it for you to form a coherent sentence?
how difficult is it to manually take breaths?
i dont need to know, but im curious

Stealing thread: how would time dilation affect a computer? Imagine building a 1x1x1 (kilometers) computer that orbits a black hole at fast speeds. Because the part of the computer that is closer to the black hole has time pass slower, would calculations suffer errors due to the logic of the computer expecting the gates to run at the same speeds?

>>10559262
The computer would see its clocks moving at the expected speed, as long as the computer is one discrete unit and not a bunch of pieces orbiting at different speeds. If it's trying to get its expected clock numbers from a different place, like a satellite orbiting further out, then it would receive conflicting data. The computer is only experiencing local time, no different than you would if it were you in orbit around the black hole. If you were watching a signal originating from further away from the black hole than you are, it would appear sped up in frequency/bluer and them watching your signals would see them slowed down/redder

Oh I see what you're saying. I would think that if the structure of the computer would be able to stand the tidal forces trying to pull the parts of the computer at different speeds, then maybe some other force reconciles the time difference. The parts at the extreme ends would be experiencing gravitational acceleration, wouldn't they? A constant gravitational acceleration is supposed to stretch time to some degree, and when we account for acceleration due to gravitation from nearby mass it reconciles, which looks like local space bending to accommodate the variant time rate. But since the computer orbiting the black hole is certainly not massive enough to have much in the way of natural gravity, it has to reconcile another way: I would posit the invulnerable mass of the computer being exposed to the accelerations of the tidal forces near the black hole would actually effectively increase the resting mass of the computer to a degree as to "induce" enough additional mass that a proportionate gravitational field is created which would reconcile the local time variance due to local space's warping from the black hole itself.

This helps the outer part that wants to experience time slower than the inner part, but a balanced cube in close orbit around a black hole would begin spinning, and these effects would build up until some sort of equilibrium is reached and the spin speed becomes self-limiting, I would think. I'm having trouble visualizing what sort of fluctuating time effects an object spinning at relativistic speeds would experience as it orbits a black hole at relativistic speeds.

>>10557181
>Time is a constant

Literally what Einstein and Special Relativity successfully disproved.

Are you a moron?