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I will go with an assumption this is a thread which is for anything medical related.
Why do I gag and almost vomit when trying new food. I handle the smell and look of it, but when I feel/chew it, I almost vomit. This is shit because I want to eat more variety of foods. Important note: I'm a picky eater, so is it fair to assume this is only as the initial encounter with new food? I'd get used to it? i can give more info if this isn't enough to give advice/point in right direction. thanks

>>10546017
I'm a picky eater too, but I'm usually open to new food. If I don't like it, I simply won't eat it anymore. It's a hit or miss, maybe you simply don't like the food. What the heck did you try to eat?

I seriously have no idea how some people ended up in medschool and managed to get into 4th year. I'm from EU, today at pulmonology we had a Vietnamese patient which worked at construction sites. X-ray shows tiny particles everywhere in the lung, pneumoconiosis. My group was assigned to the little yellow fella (He spoke Romanian extremely well!), and at auscultation the murmur was almost abolished and apically he had sibilant rales. Then this fucking dumbass chick comes in and contests the diagnosis saying it's a massive broncho-pneumonia...What? Bitch, if he had that, his lungs should have subcrepitant rales everywhere. And we started arguing about this shit and when the prof came: "Are you done with the patient with siderosis?"

Got'cha bitch!

>>10546033
it's a common food from where I am, but I never ate it before, so I decided to try it. It's like a pastry type of pie with minced meat, cooked in an oven with spices and shit. It's a traditional meal here, however I have the same issue with many other foods, whether they're solid foods, liquid-type foods(stews, or anything similar), so it really limits my choice which is rather shit, like I said

>>10545921
/nomed/ who works for my uni's biomedical school - what would one specialize in that would lead to working with diseases and infectious materials from a research perspective, or vaccination development? I'm assuming stuff along the lines of epidemiology, pathology, etc?

>>10546089
Infectious diseases.

>>10545921
MORE DOCTORS SMOKE CAMEL THAN ANY OTHER CIGARETTE
can confirm, at least for students. Basically about 30-40% of all smokers I see in my medschool smoke camel

>>10546227
As an ex smoker, most of us went for Lucky Strike. It was a pleasure going to pathology class and talk about lung cancer after a fresh cigarette

>>10546247
Well I'm from balkan so lucky isn't that much popular here. Camels are cheap and imo taste nice

>>10546267
If România is considered /balk/ , then you're wrong. Plenty of luckies here.

How rad is rad?

>>10546285
Not ras

>>10546285
Pretty

>>10546285

0.01 Sieverts rad

>>10546315
>>10546326
>>10546359
Seriously though how good is it as a specialty, putting aside the high income?

What if you took the treatment for micro penis, testosterone cream, and applied it to a man with a regular penis. Would his penis grow? If not, why?

>>10546384
If you really really really really really like anatomy, then you'll like rads too.

>>10546448
>What if you took the treatment for micro penis, testosterone cream, and applied it to a man with a regular penis. Would his penis grow? If not, why?
Because those patients have actual diseases and took gonadotropin with that topical testosterone. If you took only the cream it would make no change

>Imblying u need med school
Like lmao just get a PHD in philosophy and do shit like this
http://www.iishana.com/

>>10546060
It’s because you’re going to medical school in a shithole country.

>>10546384
I cant believe anyone would go into it unless he plans to research new imaging techniques.
I would love to do that one day even though im just a general dentist.

>>10545921

Hey /med/ I'm a chemistry student and I have the opportunity to grad all the courses to qualify to enter a PharmD program (Canada). Is it worth it bros(I live in Western Canada)?

>>10546570
>shithole country
Agreed

But there are exceptional students and the classic "How the fuck did he/she get in here" students. Just like in any other country you fucking pleb.

>>10546618
Only worth it if you will do research, not sell meds at a pharmacy.

>>10546060
>look at cxr, see granularity
>must be pneumonia

Aside from that. I had no idea these threads where here. I've finally found you people

Anesthesiology in the US. Yes or no?

>>10546833
I really liked occupational health classes so I asked him about a day in his life. He told me that he usually works with cement, rust and dust but mostly rusty stuff (30 years experience) and I was already thinking about it and was more convinced when I saw his chest x-ray. Most of us said pneumoconiosis but this bitch was so sure about it being broncho-pneumonia. Apparently it was in a more advanced phase but siderosis is one of the more "benign" pneumoconiosis, and adding the fact that he's a heavy smoker, it "helped" towards fibrosis (which was minimal) but after auscultation it made sense since the lung murmurs were nearly abolished.

Sorry for bragging but I'm very happy with my diagnosis and it's something that I rarely do. (Arguing for the correct diagnosis)

Which residency has the comfiest lifestyle?

>>10546878
STOP ASKING THIS SHIT. PSYCH AND DERM.

>>10546885
In all countries or is it an US thing?

>>10546889
I'm pretty sure in US it is, also in my country (Romania) it is too, the lifestyle is absolutely great compared to surgery residents or other more "demanding" clinical specs.

>>10546895
Why exactly? Especially psych, you'd think it would be mentally exhausting.

>>10546873
No that sounds all well and fine, I'm just trying to explain it from her perspective. If he had fulimannt bronchopneumonia (mysteriously without air bronchograms) how was he not septic? Just trying to get a sense of why she'd do such a thing

>>10546849
And why?

>no money
>can't continue my education
>in default
>can't even secure a job to get out of default (1000+ applications)
>can't do anything
>can't even buy trivial things
>no friends, no family, no support
>gifted writer, yet my letters and emails get me absolutely nowhere when explaining my situation
I might call it quits for my medical ambitions and just become a priest. It seems like there is nothing else for me.

>>10546898
Psych has great lifestyle, big paycheck and not on call. Yes in residency you have 12 hours on shift, but psych life after residency is good af. I say this because my psych makes a ton and shows it (Clothes, car, even her office looks premium as fuck).

>>10546915
Oh, sorry then. My colleague is usually rushed. The patient was coughing up white purulent looking sputum, but I think that happened because he's a heavy smoker, not because of broncho-pneumonia and had a slight fever (38 C) when he got admitted. I mean, these aren't really specific for pneumonia but she thought so...and that's how she ended up with that diagnosis.

>>10546950
>great lifestyle, big paycheck
Not in every country.

>>10546950
>aren't really specific for pneumonia
Eh, purulent sputum and fever with overlapping haziness indicating possible infiltrate; you would treat for pneumonia anyways, no? Primary impression can be pneumoconiosis still.

>>10546898
It requires a certain personality type, but if you can handle not being able to help people, it's extremely comfy.

>>10546991
>handle not being able to help people

Isnt that most fields?

Comfiest UK specialities?

how do you fags get research in medical school? Most PI's seem to be lazy and unhelpful. I feel like I need to read their whole CV to sweet talk them into having enough of a boner to bring me on a project (US)

>>10546987
Somewhat going for pneumonia but kinda out of context. Idk what was she listening to when we did his med history.

>>10546991
>not being able to help people
>>>/x/
and never come back

>>10546996
>t. shamanist chiropractor apprentice

>>10547026
t. ‘science is my religion’ autist with bruised ego

>>10547026
>>not being able to help people
How many admissions are to non compliance?

>>10546943
Hope things turn out good for you man

>>10547046
You forgot the ">"

>>10547061
What do you mean by non compliance? Patients that refuse treatment/treat themselves like shit or patients that don't want to be admitted?

There are many patients that are admitted because they have no idea how to treat at home but they're mostly diabetic or have heart failure which isn't curable, as you know, you can only keep them under control. Otherwise, plenty of acute cases that are compliant and very nice to the staff and students.

Does anyone have good resources for remembering bugs/drugs for clinicals? I keep forgetting shit

>>10547119
Thanks, friend.

>>10547127
>no idea how to treat at home but they're mostly diabetic or have heart failure
>plenty of acute cases that are compliant and very nice to the staff and students.
we must train in very different places. Its all the chronically comorbid here.

>>10547026
Nigga what, chill. I work with alcoholics, easily the most tasking part of my work is the inability to actually help the vast majority of admitted patients. Most just relapse shortly after and show up here again until they have lost everything in life and then after a long time, finally die. Many people can't handle that, they at least require an illusion of being able to help everyone or they start to become very cynical. Any field that lacks efficient treatments and has long patient contacts have this issue (psych, neuro etc.)

t.>>10546991

>>10547137
For me, depends on the hospital. We have like 5-6 hospitals and we will have rotations at each one. We've been already trough 4 of them. Cardiovascular diseases was nice, plenty of nice patients, the community hospital which isn't that nice, gypsies come there with "major emergencies" such as "I have a mild headache", apart from the ER, the gen surg and urology floors are the nicest ones, the county hospital which is again very nice patient wise but it's almost always crowded which makes me drop the rating and last but not least, respiratory explorations and diseases hospital which is okay besides the nurses which eat med students for breakfast.

>>10547177
But there are people that actually quit. Also, working with the addicted is different than working with people that suffer from GAD or depression for example. You have meds that help them tons, therapy alone isn't and will never be effective. Nigga.

>>10547196
I work at a combination of your gypsy hospital and the nurse predator hospital. I want to die some days.

>>10547228
actually most days

>>10547228
Man, I had that experience when I had ER rotations. The head nurse was absolutely destroying us, I haven't done so much cardio my whole life (The emergency lab was located at the 2nd floor and had to bring blood/urine samples mostly), and also had to take patients to the radiology department and I had to act as a porter, kek. Was lucky that the attending took us under her wing and gave us better tasks (drawing blood, take BP, auscultation, observe procedures and 1 minute quizzes when she was doing FAST scans)

>>10547263
Oh and forgot about the gypsy part. We were going night time on weekends so weekends = drunk people. Worst patient? Drunk gypsy with glass shards in his head due to fight at fucking 3am and assists the trauma surgeon when he came down to help this filthy gypsy out. Worst part? His "friends" were so fucking loud and had such a shitty behaviour with our staff that we had to call security and then they started arguing outside (police came in the end). So that's the first and hopefully the last thing I've experienced with gypsies and killer head nurses.

>>10547263
>Was lucky that the attending took us under her wing

nice person to notice and pull you away from the anal gaping. Ours don't give a shit. I can't fathom why such difficult people like your nurse want to be at a teaching hospital if students are there to not be taught but instead used and abused.

>>10547281
lol. thats my every day. It really makes 'helping' them harm society in the end, i swear.

>>10547288
>used and abused
Well, I understand them somehow since they were understaffed, but then, she could wait for a porter to come back and do his job so that sucks. Our attending (very hot cougar) was chill with us and happy to teach us, very calm and tempered and always smiling. One of my favourite docs so far.

I don't want to experience what are you going trough. Gypsies are tough patients, they always expect the utmost care even for minor stuff. I hope you'll find a chill prof like my ER attending and I wish you the best of luck, anon!

>>10547196
Yeah, and those people are the reason why I keep doing this, but again, the vast majority of residents and med students on rotations tell me that they find the job extremely tasking due to the prominent feeling of helplessness in front of peoples issues. Same applies to general psychiatry and especially to pediatric psychiatry in my experience.

Therapy is pretty much shit, as in compared to other kinds of therapies or just talking. Meds are efficient for some and some conditions, but useless and potentially dangerous for many. There is a reason why we have been trying to cut down on prescribing them so heavily. In short, for the vast majority of cases, there are no easy, quick, efficient or cheap solutions.

>>10547332
>Therapy is pretty much shit,
What about CBT, it can help some people.

>>10547332
>there are no easy, quick, efficient or cheap solutions

But you still help your patients and massively improve their quality of life. Psych is still a "young" field and has many, many things to offer for psych patients that didn't exist back then. I agree with pedi psych, I imagine it's a hard race. Wanted to ask you, what's the suicide rate among psychiatric pedi patients? (I assume patients aged up until 16 or 18, not sure)

>>10547328
thanks anon, i hope so too. Good luck back there, hope you fuck your hot cougar attending!

What possesses an otherwise normal person to be a vicious, nasty shitter who buys Longines?

>>10547478
they became a surgeon

>>10547496
>surgeon
>wearing low tier shit like longines
u wot m8

>>10547511
>surgeons have taste

>>10547518
Perhaps not, but they have money, and anyone with a decent amount of money isn't gonna buy a fucking Longines

>>10547522
theyre a thousand or two. I can't imagine spending over $500 for a watch regardless

>>10546060
Bro in my 3rd world shithole I just had an argument with my internal medicine professor about an exam question because he said menigococcal meningitis was the most common form of meningitis in adults (at least in my country it isnt) and when I showed him the statistical data that HE provided us that showed p.neumoniae was the most common cause of meningits and that neisseria meningitidis only accounted for like 17% of cases he went ahead and said "neisseria meningitidis meningitis is not the same as meningoccocal meningitis"

I was ready to fucking quit right then and there, id much rather be a nurse in the US tha deal with fucking retards like him every day

>>10546455
>>10546448
It actually only works for pre pubescent males. If you already went through puberty hormone therapy is pretty useless for penis growth

>>10547385
Psych here (Northern Europe) is split into pediatric (up to 13), adolescent (13 - 17) and general/adult (18 and upwards.) Pediatric ones generally don't have that high suicide rates, because they are still kids and if problems continue to adolescence they are usually already in a institution and so the rate of successful suicides is pretty low, high numbers of attempts and ideation though.

>>10547575
>"neisseria meningitidis meningitis is not the same as meningoccocal meningitis"
meningoccocal menigitis is a stupid informal term that isn't even good shorthand. He's still wrong though.

>>10547575
S.pneumoniae***

>>10547351
CBT is good at certain stuff, like anxiety, but when it comes to depression etc. it's just as good or bad as other forms of therapy, or stuff that doesn't even really count as psychotherapy. More important factors are how good is the therapist, how well do the patient and the terapist click and how well does the particular therapy suit the patient's personal proclivities (for example psychodynamic suits some patients very well and others can't stand it)

>>10547600
Yeah I had to literally get my microbiology textbook and show him the chapter on gram-negatives where it talks about neisseria for him to believe me. Oh and he also went ahead and told us you shouldnt operate on a patient with ICH if he's in a coma (?????)

>>10547637
>shouldnt operate on a patient with ICH if he's in a coma
did he say why? I don't understand

>>10547582
>It actually only works for pre pubescent males
Why is this the case, though? Why doesn't the penile tissue in the adult respond to the treatment?

>>10547760
The cell's are no longer sensitive in the same way. What the underlying mechanism is, nobody really knows. I'm sorry buudy, you are not going to get a big dick by asking on /sci/

>>10547771
But if the mechanism was understood, you could try to manipulate it to induce the same reponse in adult tissues. Imagine how lucrative such a treatment would be.

>>10546943
If it helps anon I feel stuck as well and am not sure if I can get to med
>Studying MCAT
>Medical problems I thought I'd delt with return
>Talk to doctor
>Put on waitlist
>Keep trying to study through it
>First practice test comes around
>Get through with decent score but I am hurting
>After 2nd practice test I can't do it anymore
>Talk to doctor
>Nothing improves
>Have to stop studying
>Can't even get work because of chronic condition

>>10545921

Repost from prior thread because I am still interested to hear more perspectives. Would appreciate input from any medfags. For the record I am not in the USA. I'm a psychology student in my final year of studies but I think I fucked up. I wanted to do my PhD in clinical psychology or neuro psychology but after finally getting some real experience with research I don't like it. I can't see myself doing 5-6 years of research and being in academia anymore but it's waaay too late to change my major. I want to pursue psychiatry though. Most medical schools here don't require prerequisites but of course in my degree program I have not taken much sciences anyway. I have taken stats, intro bio, intro chem, neuroscience, and I plan to take 1 anatomy course for my own interest but that's basically it. I see that in the USA all your schools needs organic chem/bio chem/physics/calculus pre reqs but how relevant is that for the first 2 years of medical school? How much physics and organic/bio chem do you actually apply in med school? Because if I get into a medical school here or even abroad like in Australia for example, I am just not sure how well I would fare if I don't have a solid organic chem/physics/biochem background. I think with 6 months of practice and a prep course I can score somewhere between 505-510 on the MCAT (I was scoring 130 on CARS practice tests earlier and the psych/social science stuff is easy for me too) which should be enough for the schools I am looking at but yeah, being a non STEM major thinking of going forward with this seems intimidating. Not to mention if I do this and end up going to the UK or Australia for med I'd probably have to write the USMLE's as a back up. Speaking of which, what do you guys think of Australian schools? Are they good?Worth going abroad for? If anyone could please weigh in or recommend what my steps should be after I finish undergrad in order to have a decent shot at an MD program I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

>>10547867
Might be worth making your question a little easier to read and digest if you want some answers.

>>10547867
Don’t worry about a non-stem background. Just be ready to work a little harder at first.

Lots of medical schools in the U.K. accept non-science graduates, including a little-institution called Cambridge University.

Is there a way to deal with assholes with pent up anger who will snap at anyone for no reason? Other than minimizing interactions with them.

>>10548005

Turn the other cheek.

>>10548039
The fact that they are angry doesn't bother me. Even if someone is angry I genuinely appreciate when people can tell me I'm doing something wrong. I know some people don't know how to communicate that without anger, and that's alright. The problem is that they snapped, without telling me explicitly what I did wrong, then texts my supervisor a complaint about me, still not mentioning exactly what I did wrong.

>>10547787
Hope things get better for you anon.

>>10547890

Thank you. Any general advice on stuff I should study to prepare?

>>10548152
Thanks anon. I managed to get an appointment with a specialist. Hopefully after this is all done I can return to studying

>>10547885

Sorry just stressed out and have a tendency to ramble.

1. How important are orgo/physics/biochem in medical school during the preclinical years? Can someone without a solid foundation get by?


2. Are Australian medical schools good in terms of quality of education, etc? Would it be difficult to get a residency in the USA in psychiatry if you went to one? I know USMLE's play a role in that but how else can you maximize your chances if you hypothetically fuck up your STEP 1 and score average or less than that?

3. If my main objective is to match into psychiatry what should I be doing from day 1 in med school?

Thinking about getting my teeth removed and getting implants. Yay or nay?

Med school is stealing my youth. I'm inching closer and closer to becoming Christmas cake. Should I just save up and get my fucking eggs harvested and frozen?

>>10548317
Big mistake. You can't clean implants and abrasives destroy them. I would only get them if they were made out of something like the copper-chef pan's. I always had an idea for a mouthpiece to be warn when one eats to eliminate the need of daily teeth brushing. I was very serious about the idea and wanted to patent it and start production but I had no money and still don't. Free idea for anyone who wants it. I'll be your first customer.

>>10548327

Just get knocked up by the PD in your residency of choice. Now you have babies and career security.

Hey /sci/, I'm about to graduate high school and I'm going to college next. Although I always understood the material, I never took anything but on-level chemistry and biology courses, but recently I've become interested in doing primary care medicine after looking into the state of health in the US. I'm excited to start studying in college, but I was wondering how much impact I could actually have on public health as a physician. As a potential member of that field, is there a large impact to be made if I'm passionate about health?

>>10548844

You're an idealist! I recommend you read An Imperfect Offering by Dr. James Orbinski.


There is only so much you can do but there can be opportunities to get involved with NGO's/politics to influence policy. You may consider also doing an MPH or some other graduate type of degree in public/population health along with the MD.

>>10546017
>I will go with an assumption this is a thread which is for anything medical related.
>OP specifically states we dont want your shitty hypochondriac questions

Go fuck yourself

>>10548924
Are you mad that you cant answer the question, due to being a retarded premed larper?

>>10548924
>>10548951

Calm down guys

anyone here a rt

Can nerve pain suddenly transfer somewhere else? Yesterday I started developing sciatica(?) pain on my right buttock, I did a bit of walking and stretches throughout the day felt a lot better, after going to sleep the pain on my buttock dissapeared but instead I started having pain on the middle left of my back and sometimes it hit me
so hard I couldn't breath for that instant. Is this kind of thing common? Also is sleeping on the floor good for back pain? I'm honestly scared of my bed right now.

>>10547707
some fucking retarded shit about elevated ICP (which makes no sense since being in a coma doesn't mean you must have an elevated ICP). I did some further reading and found out that certain types of ICHs don't respond well to surgical treatment but it has something to do with their particular location and size of hemorrhage. Not one piece of literature I've read says anything about coma being a contraindication to surgery.

if i told anyone I recovered from a moderate stroke would ya believe me?

>>10549674

Planning on pulling a Costanza?

>>10548327
I thought everyone fucked everyone in med school

What could mild pain in the left testicle mean? I feel no lump, it's been going on since yesterday. It's not lingering, only painful when I touch it. Is it safe to let it pass? I don't like doctors touching my balls

>>10549770
Not really. Nerds are virgins, thots go for profs the rest are either in steady relationships or go out for a one night stands.

>>10549810
>I don't like doctors touching my balls
There is a spec called urology which verifies testicles too. Pain in left testicle only when touched could mean plenty of things so the best advice is go see an urologist for a testicular echo if the pain persists. Might be varicocele, hidrocele, orchyepidymitis (if you have fever too), basically tons of stuff.

>>10549816
>if the pain persists
How long?
I regularly (like once per month for a day or two) have pain in one of my testicles but never both at the same time. It always goes away quickly

>>10549823
You should check it out then, testicular cancer can manifest in various ways, my friend. Better safe than sorry.

>>10549827
Ok, thanks.

>>10548241
Not him but I'll answer

1.As someone that disliked almost everything besides anatomy in preclinical years, you can get by pretty easy if you force yourself to learn the basics.

2.No idea

3.Nothing, just study as any other student and probably volunteer at a psych hospital or something.

>>10548005
Patient or medical staff?

>>10549867

Thank you. What specialty do you want to do?

>>10550068
Most likely family med.

>>10550100

Cool, country?

>>10548241
Where do you actually want to practice?

>looking to escape this country asap (UK)
>sitting USMLE step 1 in a year after med school finals

Is it viable to revise for step 1 at the same time as the final year at med school if the content matches up fairly well? Looking to do family med

>>10550123

Ideally in Canada, in my city. But it is so hard to get into medical school here man. It is not like in the USA where you have a decent chance at getting into a state medical school with a 3.5 GPA and average MCAT score/application. USA has over 170 medical schools whereas Canada has only 17 and that is including the ones that only accept you if you speak French. Some only accept 2-10 students from other provinces, another only accepts students from rural communities. So at the end of the day there are only about maybe 5 medical schools where I actually can apply to and might have a decent chance. It's fucked.

My GPA is closer to 3.7 and while it is not impossible to get in with an A- average, it's very, very competitive (most who get in have a 3.8-3.9+ GPA. Let's just say I am not counting on it. I know the golden rule is "study where you want to practice" but it's not that simple if you're Canadian. With that being said, I am ok with doing my training in Australia or the USA and then maybe coming back to Canada ultimately. I am flexible in regards to where I can live in the world I guess.

>>10550147

Interested to know this too. If I end up studying abroad I will need to write step 1. Lucky for you, family med is one of the main specialties that is "international medical graduate" friendly. You should still score well though.

>>10550161
>one of the main specialties that is "international medical graduate" friendly
What are the other ones?
I thought to become a physician in the US as a foreigner you basically had to complete an additional residency in America even after obtaining your MD in your home country?

>>10550172

If I remember correctly, family medicine, internal medicine, pediatrics and psychiatry are big 4 that are the most friendly for IMG's. If you get your MD in another country and match into a US residency, you're pretty much set. I am not sure how it works if you complete residency outside the USA. I think it probably depends on which country you did it in. Odds are if you do it in the UK or Canada, you should be fine as the training is probably seen as equivalent but don't take my word for it.

>>10550172
You need a medical degree from your home country, you don't need to have qualified as an attending.

E.g. I'm going to finish med school in the UK and in theory if I had step1,2cs2ck I could start a medical residency in the US.

>>10550182
I'm pretty sure you need to do a residency in the US unless you're doing a fellowship or they really like you

>>10550182
>>10550190
There's no residency in my country, you just get your MD and that's it. So I'd be forced to do a residency then?

>>10550182
>>10550172
Yeah family med was always the goal for me. Would have liked to do ortho in the US but was born in the wrong country for that

>>10550194

I dunno. I just know that some medical colleges in certain countries have "reciprocity agreements" so if you do family medicine training in the UK for example and want to go to Canada, all you need to do is write the family medicine exam they have.

>>10550108
Romania

>>10550228

Would you ever do humanitarian work?

>>10550232
Examples pls. I said in the older threads that I'd really like to help out the poor and uninsured.

>>10550239

Like for doctors without borders. They have missions all over the world but since you're in Eastern Europe already maybe working somewhere in Ukraine. Donbass has seen a lot of bloodshed

>>10550253
No really interested in that kind of practice, to be honest. I really like rural/suburban FM.

>>10550262

that's understandable, do what you love

>>10547582
Give it to a kid with dig bick genetics before puberty

>>10550288
that kind of emergency medicine is just not my cup of tea. I'm fine with seeing organs and tons of blood but I'm very easy going myself and don't like to be under heavy stress and full of adrenaline.

>>10546017
It is basically a part of your personality. Little you can do about it.

What should I know before I go to medical school?

>>10550432
YouTube tier question

>>10550432

If you've already been accepted into a program, the best thing to do is probably just make the most of your summer before starting. Relax, have some fun. If you're very keen, what I've been told is brushing up on anatomy will be useful.

>>10550196
Yes.

>>10550196
wait, how the fuck you don't go into residency? Do you all become GP's or what?

>>10549662
Do you have paresthesia in leg? Any other symptoms at all?

>>10550196
What country? What status do you have after finishing?

>>10550155
I’m not totally informed on this topic but I would do a LOT of research on what is required to attend medical school in the US. How easy it is to get in varies wildly by state. I’m in Texas which is a bit of a wild card but for our schools, matriculant GPA is around 3.8+ and MCAT is often 510+. Some states like in the Deep South ie Mississippi, Alabama have lower admission averages. But I can assure you that as a Canadian you’d have to jump through a lot of hoops and it would be expensive as fuck.

>>10550632

Oh yeah definitely, I looked into it. The vast majority of the schools don't take Canadian applicant. Those that do are freaking expensive and really competitive because they receive a ton of applications, plus I'd have to factor in cost of living and CAD to USD is not pretty right now. Most likely would be more expensive than even going to Australia.

Real doctors smoke.

>>10550734
Smoked*

>>10550465
In most countries there is no mandatory residency, you can practice with a M.D. and get a specialization through training later if you want.

>>10550734
>smoking only affects lungs

>>10545921
are there really people who have an MD on 4chan? I feel like you're all MBBS queers.

Caffeine VS no caffeine & fuck monosaccharides.

I am on a fence here. After a rough mid-term started to use caffeine again and now am having doubts.

It's great when there's a steady supply, but miss a cup or two and there's a high risk going full slowpoke.

>>10550155
apply to mcmaster

anyone here gone into nursing? what are the roles/responsibilities like compared to being a full blown doctor?

>>10550921

I plan to but I'd be OOP (BC resident). I don't think a 3.68/130 CARS would be good enough unless I absolutely obliterate CASPer and who knows how that is scored. Are you at mac now? Any advice?

>>10550933
You do what the doctor orders you to do.

>>10550887
Let's not forget the brain and lower Parkinson's Disease risk too.

>>10550955
That shit is well known but it makes your lungs suffer.

>>10550941
like what range of stuff though? bitch work like changing bedpans, or something more interesting like doing some simple parts of a surgery?

>>10550964
>That shit is well known but it makes your lungs suffer.
There are nicotine pills & patches.

>>10550893

What makes the MD better?

>>10550965
>simple parts of surgery
Kek, no way. Only handling the surgeon what he orders, and I think that even a surgical tech does that so not nurse stuff. Mostly IV's and procedures like these.
>>10550979
And the withdrawal is not worth it.

>>10549669
depends on where the bleed is. if its epidural and arterial, or a venous sinus, I don't see how reducing the bleeding could hurt more than being in a coma. Can always lower ICP with a shunt for the time being during surgery. And if they're bleeding they likely have high ICP anyways.

>>10550984
The fact that they actually make good money.

>>10550933
Depends on where are you from.

Here's there are many types of nurses.
The "specialization" happens after graduation by applying to additional courses that grant qualification certificates.
It varies from "work with mentally disabled" to actually stitching people together (not doing an actual surgery though).

>>10551002
The withdrawals are short lived, in fact, even shorter than caffeine withdrawal. I've always found nicotine withdrawal to be more mild and forgiving than caffeine withdrawal. I cannot stand the the headaches that accompany coffee cessation.

>>10551019
I hate coffee but loved cigarettes. When I quit 2 years ago , I quit cold turkey and honestly, I still crave it sometimes so I have some chewing gum or lollipop nearby. Honestly, it isn't worth it. I feel much better, smell better, my teeth are better, just by quitting cigarettes. I tried with patches or with chewing gum too but it was kind of the same shit and didn't help me at all.

>>10551106
Varies on the person. Never went beyond a routine of a few cigarette a day and have quit for months without craving it.

Redpill me on the hepatitis vaccine(s)

What can go wrong? In an adult?
I need to go them it/them but I'm scared.

>>10550955
>lets get hundreds of carcinogens in my body, fuck up my vessels and heart, weaken my muscles and skin but ill not get disease which i probably had low chance getting anyway
Troll or shill?

>>10545921
how many of you fags wrote one of this?
how hard should I shill my self as a minority?
tips? hints? what should I avoid? what should I hit?

>>10551310
Go ahead if youre a nigger and want to be handwalked in life, people should be chisen by their merit not by other things

>>10551325
not a nig, and I have gone above and beyond to get to where I am currently, but the game is rigged friend, you have to play by their rules.

>>10551348
You don’t have to do anything in this life friend, everything is a choice.

>>10551521
>You don’t have to do anything in this life friend, everything is a choice.
yes and the sky is blue.
thank you for that wonderful insight.

>>10551544
you might take place of someone who is more competent than you who would probably save more lifes, this could happen to virtually everyone in that system, participating in this is wrong, you should stand against it. This field must be filled with best possible professionals to at least stand where we are or move forward otherwise its doing steps backwards. Fill out that form if you dont trust your knowledge in the field and if you don’t are you realizing full responsibility the job demands from you?

>>10551592
>you might take place of someone who is more competent than you who would probably save more lifes, this could happen to virtually everyone in that system,
>>10551592
hardly I'm in the top 1% as far as my DAT score is concerned, and I have a 3.74 GPA... for my last 2 years of college... but there in lies my problem, my first 2 years were a disaster, and I'm debating if playing the minority card might help offset some of that.

>>10551348
Rigged in your favour perhaps, but this is just a question of you taking yet another easy road to get ahead, so why even ask? By all means, play the race card while it works.

>>10551309
Possibly neither, I mean alcohol has proven benefits and we can point them out without insisting someone goes and gets drunk. Not that I'd ever get into smoking.

>>10551708
>why even ask?
bored, and I wanted to see the responses I would get.
>play the race card while it works.
>while it works.
lmao, wake up and smell the cafe con leche whiteboi.

>>10550734
Curious studies, the first few.

Jesus fucking christ /med/. My parents got a message from the principle of my sister's high school. He told that my sister of 16 had a detailed plan about committing suicide. She is an upper-middle-class white girl, extremely smart and I have no idea she had it so bad that she had a plan to commit suicide. She has tons of friends, hobbies and she is doing great at school.
I need some answers.

>>10551946
Someone with more psych experience might reply but here are my two cents.

From what I know, suicidal patients have a good reason to do it. Something was going wrong, maybe something happened to her and she didn't want to talk to anybody (rape, bullying, etc.), tons of friends don't mean true and deep friendships which might lead to people talking behind her back actually. There are tons and tons of possibilites, I'm glad that the school principal found out and contacted your parents, I wish her all the best, anon. Be strong and be there for her, even if it's just your presence.

>>10551946
Her focus in life should be finding a mate and being a housewife. Ambitions deny a woman her biological destiny and purpose. A woman who stays at home as a good mother contributes more than the most accomplished woman in the world.

>>10552005
>posts /x/ tier comment
kys

>>10552023
That's not conspiratorial, moron.

>>10552028
True, but it's still bullshit, you fucking incel pleb.

>>10552042
You sound like the incel.
Women who aren't focused on family as their primary goal in life tend to be very neurotic and upset. I knew a family, two sisters. Raised by just their father. Never dressed properly, shopped at goodwill. Shit tier makeup. Raised to be hard working just like men with all sorts of aspirations. Guess what? Neither are married at around 30 years old, neither ever had a real boyfriend. Both still live with their father and are on disability and suffer from neuroses. This is what happens when you pretend you're something your not. Sounds like your sister is being raised the same way. Sounds like your parents are shit tier and nerve gave her a semblance of what she is other than some useless drone for society in a 9 to 5 job.

>>10552070
I'm not the guy who posted it so...Kek.

You're the virgin incel here.
>a friend of a friend of my 3rd cousin had this
Shut the fuck up you piece of shit. Support your argument with a research paper, not speculation.

>>10552081
Seething.

>>10551751
I have, smelled like Trump winning the election, Britain going Brexit, the far-right rising across Europe, even in fucking Sweden, and even normies turning on the mainstream media. Wake up and smell the ashes pajeet.

>>10552081
>the primary life function of a woman is bearing children
>how dare you sir! you need a research paper for this!

>>10552087
I'm not seething, but your way of thinking is just plain shit.

>>10552102
>the primary life function of a woman is bearing children
Yeah, a couple hundred years ago. Virgins detected.

>>10552158
That's biological reality irrespective of era or social customs.

@10552163
You're not even worth (You)'s anymore, especially after this, kek.
>biological reality
if so, we, men, should only impregnate them and that's it, right? Caveman brain you've got there.

What does it take to go into a surgical specialty instead of clinical? In terms of personality I mean.
I don't see surgery discussed very much in these threads, most people seem to want to go into clinical.

>>10552170
>biology is sexist

>>10552179
>In terms of personality
Extrovert clearly. Leadership, coordination of tasks, handy and strict.

I've seen some people in here that want to go into a surgical spec but for example, I, want a clinical spec because I'm clumsy as fuck and hate to stand for hours in an OR, it never clicked with me.

>>10552170
Men should work and build things.
Women should stay at home and take care of the children, the house, socialize with other mothers.

>>10552190
Why shoud surgeons be extroverts? They're in a role where they barely deal with patients and spend most of their time quietly concentrating and working with their hands, I imagine that would be perfect for an introvert.

I'd have though a surgeon would be slightly more cold, highly focused, good with their hands and multi-tasking, pretty much computer engineers in a medical role.

>>10552245
This.

>>10552096
>Wake up and smell the ashes pajeet.
kek not even a pajeet.
fully awake and it smells like a big pile of nothing.

>>10552170
incels epically btfo, I raise my sóy milk to you good sir!

>>10552096
>cafe con leche
he's a spic you moron

>>10552245
>>10552261
>Why should surgeons be extroverts
Also, thinking that the surgeon works only with patients under anaesthesia is very wrong. They have clinic hours, they have to check on patients and so on, there's plenty of interraction.

>Quitely concentrating
That's true, but he also has to coordinate other people, not so perfect for an introvert when in the OR and everybody is looking at him doing his job. Every surgeon I met was a cold asshole that knew how to coordinate a team in the OR, was great with patients (especially in clinic) and not as focused as you think. They did the same surgery for so long that they do it casually.

>>10552320
I've had autistic surgeons.

>>10552308
laffin, jesus christ, this being /sci/ and all it's utterly filled with morons

>>10552324
>implying

>>10552005
Correct. Just lol at thinking a woman doing great at school and having hobbies would make her less likely to be suicidal.

Boys I hate medical school. I love the work but hate the fucking people.

I'm always doing well but I've decided to go full neet

>>10552343
What's up with the sudden influx of Saudis everywhere on the internet all of a sudden?

Any parasitology fags? How remote is the chance of getting ascariasis from a dog licking your face, in a civilized country where people don't shit on the street?

>>10552381
I have no idea, my friend. Incels nowadays are just swarming every thread.

>>10552395
Unlikely.

>>10552438
>>10552381
>Incels
>saudis
ad hominems and non-arguments.

Question to the resident dentists,
what can you do against incredible heat and cold sensitive teeth?

>>10552462
Take em out and cauterize.

>>10552462
have you tried toothpaste with Novamin or the other thing like it? works for lots of people, don't know if it's available in US stores

>>10552462
Sell a man a fish, feed him for a day.
Teach a man to fish and you lose a wonderful business opportunity.

>>10552345
Do pathology

>>10550491

Yeah I did, I felt like I was stepping on needles last night. I honestly don't know what's up with my body, I woke up with more sudden pinches on my back throughout this morning, later on I had an appointment with the dentist for a tooth removal and after getting out of there all the pain on my back was gone, weird shit, I'm afraid it might eventually come back though.

>>10552395
Zero

>>10552190
introvert incel wont be good surgeon even if he has good knowledge? :(

How are cards useful when cardiothoracic surgeons exist (and presumably have the same knowledge of card + are actually capable of doing surgery)? That's the only clinical vs. surgical equivalent I don't get

>>10553504
Probably they have less time for therapeutic patients

>>10546017
Are you like 5? I used to be like this at that age.
>>10546060
kek
>>10546285
It's pretty bright.
>>10546618
Hell why not. I bet it's better than industrial chemistry.
>>10546943
I bet you live in the US.
>>10547128
I've tried to find and easier way, but brute memorisation seems the only way. :/
>>10548844
I hope med school doesn't corrupt you innocent mind.
>>10549674
Yes? Some people recover no probs.
>>10551946
Hmm might not be the usual teenage bulshittery. As another anon said if she was so serious about it, she had a reason for it. She needs intensive work with a therapist or even a psychiatrist and maybe put her on suicide watch. Probably look for an organic reason. Some endocrinological or neurological conditions present as depression.
>>10552395
It's unlikely to get any kind of parasite in first world countries desu.

>>10553504
Did both rotations. Cardiothoracic is very stressful and requires insane amount of self control and team coordination. They basically operate on people that the clinician (cardiologist in this case) gave green light for surgery. I disliked cards, but everyone in there was very serious and strict, did a lot of procedures and tests, the patients that required surgery were admitted into the cardiothoracic ward. The difference is ofc, one is a surgical spec, the other clinical, you can't put a cardiothoracic surgeon do what a cardiologist does because it would be overwhelming.

I have yet to take the MCAT, but my GPA is looking to be around 3.3 overall. I truly want to be in Family Medicine and I will be applying to DO and MD. My ECs are average and so are my shadowing, research, etc.

Truly, what can I do to further my chances?

>>10553604
> it would be overwhelming.
Why?

>>10553624
oh also I'm in biomedical engineering

>>10553626
The average surgery takes approx. 3 hours and they have 3-4 surgeries / day in a day that's not so crowded. Combine that with clinical and check-ups they have to do and they will simply burn out no matter what.

>>10553632
Oh yeah obviously but I meant going from card surg to clinical practice shouldn't be overwhelming since they're supposed to know the same shit, unlike neurosurg -> neurology for example

>>10553634
Don't be so sure, they don't know electrophysio procedures for cardiac ablation in a WPW syndrome case like some cardiologists that specialise in it, for example.

>>10553624

>tfw Canadian
>tfw GPA is around 3.7
>tfw basically this means I have close to no chance and will probably have to go to a med school in the UK, Ireland or Australia

The fact you can go to med school with a 3.3 in the USA is the only thing that makes me wish I was American sometimes. Seriously. Not fair that you guys have two types of medical degrees and over 170 fucking med schools

>>10550933
A lot different
>administering medication as opposed to prescribing
>patient obs taking
>iv, catheter insertion
>non medical patient care, orientation, can be ADLs if it involves complications like falls risks so a PCA or CNA won't be a good choice
>patient advocacy and education
>referring patients on to various allied health services

The way I'm getting taught is that doctors treat medical problems but nurses pick up the people problems slack, being the first port of call to fix up all the other life issues a medical problem causes. Obviously this differs greatly between specialties

>>10553650
How does Canada have enough doctors if it's that hard to get in?

>>10553666

Most successful applicants have a 3.8-3.9 GPA somtimes higher. In general we don't have enough physicians, especially in rural areas.

What's ophtho like?

>>10553692
Imo boring.

>tfw pulmonology exam in 2 weeks
>can't push myself to study one bit

I'm done lads, opened the book at the more mainstream chapters (asthma, pneumonia, COPDs) and the memorisation it requires is fucking next level compared to cards. VEMS, IPB, FEF 25-75 , treatment is so broad, gonna end myself.

Which specialties have the most free time? I don't mean just during residency

>>10553957
FM, psych, Derm, optho

I’m a student, and a resident surgeon on one of my rotations keeps farting on me. I’m a small, meek Indian guy so I am something of a magnet for bullying. Is there any point in reporting this? The rotation will be over in 2 weeks, so I’m not sure whether to ride it out or kick up a fuss.

>>10553968
What about neuro?

>>10554030
>farting on me
My fucking sides

>>10554043
I don't know about neuro. Depends if you practice privately or in hospital. They have some procedures too and it's kind of stressful.

>>10554049
Ophto and derm have procedures

>>10554059
Yeah. Simple procedures compared to neuro. Some opthos and derms don't even do procedures unless they do a fellowship while neuro is trained to do procedures.

>>10554063
>compared to neuro
I didn't know neuro had challenging procedures

>>10554099
Lumbar punctures, EMG, EEG, with fellowship they can use stenting techniques. Derm has like 1 procedure without fellowships and optho evaluates eyes basically. Idk how much free time they have but AFAIK, they're also on call

>>10554115
>optho evaluates eyes
Ophtos are registered as surgeons in most countries dude

>>10554122
I know but how many actually do surgery? Most of the opthos I know just take the ophthalmoscope , look , puts drops and that's it. Cataract is basic surgery.

>>10552343
Makes her more likely.

>>10553895
Kek, you're fucked. Good luck.

>Be really sick with flu past few days
>Yesterday I had running nose, sore throat and couldn't stop coughing
>Went to the club and got really drunk
>Today all symptoms of flu are gone

What's going on

>>10554223
It was probably just a cold.

>>10554030
Yeah, you’re being farthagged. This is a known hazing technique in some of the more macho surgical fields. Just ride it out.

>>10554237
It staggers me that stuff like farthagging and tramping still go on in medicine. It’s the sort of thing you’d expect if you were hauling bricks on a building site.

>>10554244
I'm surprised too. And I'm from fucking Romania, no one did this to any of us so far, kek.

I'd be too ashamed to report this, like what the fuck will I write in the complaint section? *Farted on student - please take action* , I'd laugh my ass off.

>>10554030
You’ll likely get swatted away like an annoying gnat if you complain about being farthagged. Hit the gym to make yourself less of a target in future.

>>10553895
breh, Anki breeeehhh

@10554389
>anki
>pulmonology
Low effort post.

>>10554394

Aww, sorry babby. Keep using those hand drawn spider-diagrams :^)

>>10550734
If tobacco is not contaminated with pesticides and there is good particulate filter average smoking should not cause anything special.
The true problem is that you cant not find clean product,they are full of additives that people inhale.

>>10554407
Kek, I'd really like to see how you'd use anki with all those terms you premed fag or whatever first year you are.

>hand drawn spider-diagrams
Not really, I just fuck up the whole textbook because it's easier for me to memorise and connect stuff rather than drawing random shit.

>>10554237
>>10554244

What the hell is farthagging?

>>10553968
Lmao all the GPs (UK family med docs) get mad if you bring up work/life balance as a selling point

They also won't talk about salary but that's probably because they all fiddle the books

>>10553650
Wish I was born in the US purely so I could do ortho there

>>10554135
>just take the ophthalmoscope , look , puts drops and that's it
how do they make? Should I have to worry about automation or should I go on the offensive with a computer vision PhD?

>>10554538

Senior residents and attendings will challenge junior residents to select a med student that will be with them for some time. The challenge is then to fart on or very nearby the student as many times as possible (without saying anything about it). That's basically it.

It's not unique to medicine, I think it originated in banking or some other big balls career where shitting on your subordinates is encouraged.

>>10554573
you mean surgery?

>>10554593
Yes. Specifically hand surgery.

>>10554618
is it really that hard to get into med school over there?

>>10554628
As an IMG you can forget doing orthopaedics in the US unless you have been very fortunate.

>>10554618
why hand surgery?

>>10554633
the fuck does that even mean?
be more specific

>>10554586
This post made me think, what specs are going to benefit the most from future tech advancement? What are the fields of medicine that will get more important in the future with shit like prosthetics, biotech, new imaging techniques, hypothetical BCI and whatever else?

>>10554563
Well, what I've heard about UK is that you need appointments to see your GP, kek. Of course they're fully booked and don't have time for themselves. Money should be fine? I was thinking 100k quid per year.

>>10553650
a 3.7 could be a 3.8 or 3.9 depending on the weighting schemes of the med school. uoft drops lowest 8 courses, etc.

>>10551946

Go get her to a psych and all try find out what is wrong, like the other anons said, don't listen to Mehmet from 1643, Incellah

>>10554775
A psychiatrist will tell you that it's from too much stress placed on career and academics and not enough life, bringing us back to the point the other posters were making.

>>10554782
Like a psychiatrist that is not fucked in the head, unlike people like you Muhammad, will not base the suicide plan just for stress. Now fuck off back to /x/.

>>10554791
Not an argument.
Not /x/ related.
This premise:
>too much stress placed on career and academics and not enough life
isn't even controversial.

>>10554791
>Now fuck off back to /x/
Oh good, it’s you again.

>>10554774
>a 3.7 could be a 3.8 or 3.9 depending on the weighting schemes of the med school. uoft drops lowest 8 courses, etc.
is that similar to academic renewal?
were all your Ds and Fs are removed from your transcript?

>>10554811
What kind of policy is that? That's like a year's worth of courses.

>>10554814
it is, but I doubt they are dropping the Cs, more likely just the Ds and Fs, which if you want to go on you probably had to retake.

>>10554802
Want an argument?

Why would she have a detailed plan of suicide in the first place? As I said earlier, people with suicidal thinking have a good reason to do it. Stress is not even a reason, do you even have a brain, you virgin faggot? Suicidal people are good at hiding that reason, that's why when they commit suicide everybody is surprised. There could be tons of reasons, stress is not one of them, being under heavy stress leads to depression, anxiety, GAD, bipolar disorder and many other pathologies which could lead to suicide, so a psych won't give a diagnosis based on "stress", unlike you virgins, that have cavemen tier brain.

We could sit here and speculate about what her reason could be, and yours is /x/ tier. You're probably something out of /med/ that's frustrated because can't get into medschool and probably is a NEET in his moms house that brings home crusts of sandwiches she got from prostitution to feed him,a helpless incel virgin that wears diapers.

>m-muh stress leads to suicide
>s-stress is the m-main c-c-cause of suicide

Again, heavy stress leads to different pathologies that can lead to suicide, but for a high school girl (I assume), what is the cause of heavy stress? Academics? Kek.

>>10554867
>Stress is not even a reason
>Ignores that stress is a major trigger for mental illnesses.

>>10554867
>do you even have a brain, you virgin faggot?
>unlike you virgins, that have cavemen tier brain.
>and yours is /x/ tier.
>You're probably something out of /med/ that's frustrated because can't get into medschool and probably is a NEET in his moms house that brings home crusts of sandwiches she got from prostitution to feed him,a helpless incel virgin that wears diapers.
yikes

>>10554874
I just said that stress leads to psychiatric pathologies that lead to suicide but the fucking psych won't write "STRESS"

Also nice greentext argument, Isaiah.

>>10554878
Truth hurts.

>>10554880
Truth that you're a mentally unstable nutcase rabidly slinging ad hominems because you disagree with someone? Yes.

>>10554867
He’s seething.

>>10554648
Anyone?

>>10554883
Kek, getting defensive, are we? Little faggot.

>>10554886
You're seething, incellino

>>10554893
Have you considered seeing a psychiatrist?

>seething
>/x/
>caveman brain
>incel
Truly peak /med/ performance

>>10554901
Shitskin twat.

>>10554906
Incorrect on that assumption.
Like I said, you have some deep-seated issues and need professional help.

>>10554912
>being this autistic

>>10554923
>Another ad hominem appears

>>10554923
He’s still going!

Shut the fuck up you fucking retards.

>>10554946
Meltdown

>>10554946
are you ok?

>it's another samefag argues with himself to derail the thread episode

>>10554946
Please post so we know you’ve not done anything extreme. We’re worried about you.

Wtf is going on, kek.
>1 word reply
>asshurt replies
You faggots all okay in here?

>>10554774

I took 8 courses not 10 because I didn't plan on med initially. So now I only meet the weighing formula for U of C. Just fucking fuck my shit up.

>>10554634

Hand surgery is fuckin fascinating

>>10555132
>hand surgery
It's complicated and boring. Why limit yourself to the hand when you can use hammers and saws? It's not even that elegant, to be honest.

>>10552345
Good for you, anon. Med school is not for everyone.

FRESH NEW THREAD

>>10555155
>>10555155
>>10555155
>>10555155
>>10555155

>>10547177
What's the depression/suicide/stress related disease rate among psychiatrists?
I imagine it's incredibly high for those who actually have empathy for their patients

What is the difference between infectology and pathology?

>>10554135
pretty sure most opthos do cataract shit and many prob do laser eye surg too

>be scientist
>study knees for 10 years
>discover new cancer related to knees
>name it "knee grow"
how attainable is this? im going to uni this fall

>>10556862
related benefit includes "to eradicate knee grows, we must ..."