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are human races real

>> No.10548575
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Ask 2nd place Carll Lewis

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>>10548567
thanks for posting this thread again

>> No.10548684

>>10548575
lol

>> No.10548708

vaguely

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>>10548567
Yes.

>> No.10548743

>>10548567
Can you tell me what pc1 means

>> No.10548789

>>10548743
i have no idea

>> No.10549056

>>10548575
u funny anon

>> No.10549065

>>10548567
No.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299519/

End the racism threads.

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Ethnicity is breed "without eugenic pedigree". This makes people uncomfortable when it shouldn't, because when we think of the word breed we think of it in terms of animal husbandry which implies selective breeding based on the promtion of traits we like and the removal of traits we don't. Eugenics is animal husbandry applied to humans and vice versa animal husbandry is the equivalent of eugenics applied to animals.
We hold ourselves to different taxanomic classification standards than we do anything else, but fair enough, we dont have to expect objectivity on everything

Black and White are not races anymore, they're castes.
They were considered races when black people weren't considered to be "human" in the same regard. Abos, Maoris and Islanders ect are also considered black, but they arent the same ethnically or culturally. What is held as simmilar is the skin tone and the social position/victimhood

>> No.10549932

Are dog breeds real? Cat breeds?

Do different populations have noticeably different genetic traits? Visibly different?

Your article is deceptive at its best, pants-on-head retarded at worst. Reducing race to a definitional game and then decrying 'recognition that race exists as lived social experiences that can have important effects on health' is the opposite of science. It's politics beneath a transparent facade.

It's plainly wrong! How can people not see this? There are visible differences in ethnic groups, I can use my eyes to see them! If 83% of anthropologists think otherwise, they should get their eyes checked (and hopefully their brains as well)

Some people wonder why 'science' isn't getting the respect it used to. They clearly haven't read this article.

>> No.10550039

>>10549932
If race was broken down only by ethic continental heritage (ie African, Asian E
ect, even though "Asian" means nothing specifically significant) then race is real. Black and White isn't. Article is retarded, but its the same as people saying gender is a Social construct. Fine, it is, but so is everything else, including the definitions of almost all words we use given that their meaning and their scope change over time.

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>>10549065
Nice!

>> No.10550504

>>10548737
gtfo nazi /pol/ fag

>> No.10550597

>>10550504
newfag

>> No.10551158

>>10549065
>Anthropologists

Not scientists

>> No.10551385

>>10548743
Principal Component 1. Look up PCA, it's a way of quantifying genetic differences between individuals in a population.

>> No.10551607

>>10548567
>not using t-sne

>> No.10551923

>>10550504
Another hysterical anti-pol poster.

>> No.10551931

>>10551923
It's actually a /pol/ false-flagger

>> No.10553533

>>10548567
Yes and no.
Are there biological differences? Yes but so are between any groups you divide humans into and the act of classifying things is our call, there is no objective basis for it. You can divide humans into groups and you can also not do that.

>> No.10553689

>>10548567
Define race, then the answer is yes for most real world definitions. It's only no for stupid sjw science definitions that stop there being dog breeds or even different species.
>>10553533
>no objective basis
Genetic distances and PCA want a word.

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>>10548567
Modern large scale genetic analysis supports the notions of races, as long as you interpret it not as strictly distinct handful of categories, but more like budding branches on the tree of life.

>> No.10553745

>>10548567
>Pc1 = 10%
>pc2 < 2%
Super impressive