/sci/ - Science & Math

>>10544337
she got into a good school unlike you NEET

You're the one singling her out and giving her all the attention so she can thank you for any accolades received.

I invented math btw.

what have you accomplished nig ga

>>10544337
She's happy for something they achieved. What's your point?

>>10544337
can i clear the record on this. writing algorithms is typical grad-student work. being the physics grad student who wrote the code to make the plot that demonstrated the existence of the higgs boson is not only below the tier of people you could credit for the higgs' discovery (take for instance pic related. i guarantee she didn't write the code for the higgs bump plot.), but they didn't even give the nobel to the experimentalists. they gave it to the theorists.

learn how science works before trolling a probably nice grad student girl who you would definitely be friends with if you only could

>>10544337
>dude fuck women

>>10544337
I want to hawking radiate her black hole if you comprehend my insinuation

>>10544337
Will this event convince /sci/ and any foolish centrist scientists that leftism needs to be fucking expunged from the science as soon as possible, alongside with any in the media and our community, and that leftists serve as an existensial treat to humanity?

Like its amazing some picture of a black hole, and the redditors and leftist construct a narrative that focuses on a WOMEN and then having her steal all the credit. Next level narcissism.

>>10544353
This. This shit is so fucking cringy. Everyone acting like this is so significant WOW a data model of M87 amazing AND A CUTE GURL!!!!

>>10544394
The women IS the story. This is just more Reddit propaganda. Makes me sick frankly

It is literally pointless to be a white male in astronomy at this juncture
you will be passed over for all funding, accolades, and promotions

>>10544394
where was she given all the credit? i missed it.
and what event exactly are you talking about?
>a woman helped us analyze this data, this is serious guys, we need to stop this shit!

>>10544409
literally front page cnn

>>10544394
Literally, you didn't read the story. Probably because you don't give a shit about the science.

>>10544408
>white males are getting passed over
over 2/3rd of tenured faculty in science and engineering is white
only 15% of tenured faculty is female

>>10544417
that's just everyday clickbait anon.

>>10544394
>>10544404
here's a solution for you guys, stop reading reddit. who cares what goes on there? none of my physics colleagues mentioned this lady at all despite extensive discussions of the picture/theory/experiment/etc.

you guys are like liberals who lurk /pol/ and then REEEE about stormfags. just ignore the brainlets. real /sci/bros visit /sci/, arXiv / pubmed, the .edu pages of the top 20 STEM universities, quanta, the CERN courier, maybe a couple of blogs, and not much else. certainly not brainletddit

>>10544337
Good for her, lately what have you been up to anon ? Nothing? Except bitching on a vietnamese board. Sad .

She has the PHENOTYPE I crave.

>>10544432
I don't give a fuck about the science here, wow a black hole no shit. Imagine that it acts like the models worked out 70 years ago what a surprise.

I'm sure the EHT did great work with their data aquisition and computer modeling etc but the REAL STORY here is the public being brainwashed about GURLS IN STEM and you know it.

>>10544432
don't forget phys.org and ieee spectrum

>>10544423
>only 15% of tenured faculty is female
They're also about 0.1% of all STEM graduates, which makes them way over-represented.

>>10544417
>CNN
Why would you give a shit in the first place?

>>10544444 (witnessed)
>I don't give a fuck about the science here
exactly, and you and most people will forget about this and about here in 2 weeks. those who care will remember the science.

>>10544456
Fair enough I suppose. For the record is there even any science here besides the data modeling?

>>10544444

>>10544423
Reminder, Asian women are a factor higher in intelligence than white/black/hispanic women. While Asian men is slightly higher in IQ than White men and white men are about half a factor higher in IQ than black/hispanic men.

>>10544408
Well, it's frankly about time a black woman like Stephen Hawking got her time in the sun.

The fuck are you talking about dude?

"Oh no, white lanky dudes with mustaches might not get *all* the fucking prizes this year - it's white patricide, everyone!"

>>10544451
>0.1%
>throwing out random numbers
Why are you so afraid of facts?
https://www.asee.org/papers-and-publications/publications/college-profiles/15EngineeringbytheNumbersPart1.pdf
https://nscresearchcenter.org/snapshotreport-science-and-engineering-degree-completion-by-gender/

>>10544444
The digits of truth. right on.

>>10544444
>Imagine that it acts like the models worked out 70 years ago what a surprise.
Leave it to /pol/tards to not care about verifying a model

>>10544473
>women major in retard sciences
>wonder why they don't get tenure at the same rate as actual science professors
Thanks for blowing yourself the fuck out.

>>10544487
Yeah, this is about verifying theories and taking a picture of the V O I D incarnate.

>>10544337
>>10544404
>>10544444
The director of the Event Horizon Telescope project is a guy named Sheperd Doeleman, a dude who's been working on this project years before Bouman was even accepted to Harvard, years before she even attended college, yet no mention of his name in 99% of the articles.

>>10544487
how many times are you fags going to verify it without figuring out why it disagrees with QM
>Gravitational Lensing
>Gravitational Waves
>Blurry Image w/ population size of 2
also, absolutely based quints >>10544444

>>10544417
>Certainly Not News

>>10544530
No white males allowed

>>10544537
Led by a female.

>>10544540
whats your point?
she couldnt get into doing the actual work, and any guys wouldve been better spent outside of management?

>>10544337
Hello Darkness my old friend
I've come to talk with you again

>>10544409
>>10544417
>>10544426
If you only knew how bad things really are.

>>10544552
ahahahahahah what a fucking idiot. los ogros de las americas sure are a special kind of people

>>10544552
Fuck, AOC is such a shill

>>10544565
It's this. The concept that anyone should lurk her Tweets is the only ludicrous thing here.

>>10544423
Those people were given tenure in the 80s when merit mattered. Has it occurred to you that they're trying to now close those gaps as fast as possible? Who do you think gets skipped over as the gaps close to 50-50

>>10544577
>gets skipped over
In what context? Is global renown meaningful to the science?

Analysis of code:
She did 2,000 lines
Project lead did 850,000 lines

>I did this

>>10544592
>>10544540
>>10544550
>>10544537
The actual leader

can the media stop being such a bunch of dishonest cunts for one story? just one second?

>>10544630
The world runs on people. People live stories. Journalists run stories. It's not about anything but the people who pushed things forward.

>>10544630
It has really ruined this for me. I was excited when I heard the news. I even was willing to believe she actually had a key role in the project. Now I just feel manipulated.

>>10544519
>retard sciences
>39% physical sciences
>21% engineering
you're the one that's BTFO for throwing out random bullshit like 0.1% m8

>>10544392
what did this NEET mean by that?

>>10544661
>feel manipulated
This says more about you.

>>10544672
Sad part is he have verified his claim in under 30 seconds with a Google search, but there's no time for that when there's OUTRAGE to be peddled.

>>10544672
>bawwww

>>10544552
>>10544612
>his reply
Maybe next he can work on a series of satellites capable of detecting the minuscule amount of beta radiation left behind when his balls imploded.

>>10544693
This is the most cringe thing I think I have ever seen holy shit his testosterone must have evaporated due to Hawking radiation

>>10544540
>Bouman
Is she a fucking Jew?

He has 55 followers on Twitter holy fucking shit

Nothing to see here, just /pol/ being really pathetic and envious of science

Can someone shoop Ryan Gosling from Blade Runner over this?

IMAGINE ALL THE IF STATEMENTS

i bet ibjiyongi is inBolBed in this fake spectacle somehow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Bouman

#HistoryMade

THIS IS GREAT FOR ALL WOMEN! I'M SO GLAD MY WIFE'S BOYFRIEND GOT ME INTO SCIENCE

>>10544720
>She earned her doctorate in electrical engineering and computer science fromMITin 2017

>Bouman theorized that black holes leave a background shadow of hot gas.[8] The machine learning algorithm fills in gaps in data produced by telescopes from around the world.
Wait so this image is synthesized by AI?

>W-white men are the ACTUAL marginalised group!
Victims, the lot of you

>>10544765
Of course not sweety, this brave women singlehandedly crunched a trillion lines of code while white males tried to rape her and now we have black holes

>>10544770
Fuck off tranny.

>>10544781
Cry harder snowflake

Here's the super Jewish pic from their official site

>i will never have a smart gf

>>10544436
>craving women
you'll never make it

The research was genuine, it's just the left wing and SJW media picking up on it because there's a woman in it.
They are literally ruining actual science now with their bullshit, it's the downfall of the west.

>>10544805
>this

It's not the girls fault the media is the way it is. I really hope she comes out and makes it a point to say this was a team effort but I have doubt

take a breather guys. just don't respond. or at least just settle on one thread.

>>10544552

>>10544765

yes, it's not a photography or an actual image of a black hole, it's simply a render that follows physical rules
similar to how you would render a raindrop based on gravitation and its effects on it

do i have it correct that she is actually a graduate student in _computer science_ rather than physics?

>>10544833

holy shit she really did render the image all by herself if this is true

>>10544789
holy fuck

>>10544699
>>10544693
See >>10544736

The second co-leader of the EHT imaging group is Kazunori Akiyama with the first being, Andrew Chael.

https://bhi.fas.harvard.edu/people/kazunori-akiyama

http://news.mit.edu/2019/mit-haystack-first-image-black-hole-0410

>Teams at both Haystack and Max Planck then began the painstaking process of “correlating” the data, identifying a range of problems at the different telescopes, fixing them, and rerunning the correlation, until the data could be rigorously verified. Only then were the data released to four separate teams around the world, each tasked with generating an image from the data using independent techniques.

>“It was the second week of June, and I remember I didn’t sleep the night before the data was released, to be sure I was prepared,” says Kazunori Akiyama, co-leader of the EHT imaging group and a postdoc working at Haystack.

>All four imaging teams previously tested their algorithms on other astrophysical objects, making sure that their techniques would produce an accurate visual representation of the radio data. When the files were released, Akiyama and his colleagues immediately ran the data through their respective algorithms. Importantly, each team did so independently of the others, to avoid any group bias in the results.

Katie Bouman is literally a freaking footnote in MIT's very own press release.

4 teams around the world.

American team was ked by Kazunori Akiyama and Andrew Chael.

Nowhere it is mentioned that Katie Bouman led the American team, just only these 2 males who were co leaders.

Where did this Katie Bouman was leader originate from? Even MIT's own news article doesn't mention this.

>>10544444
Impressive gets.

And the only place I've seen any reporting of this girl is here at /sci/. Sweden's largest news sites didn't give her any attention at all. That's Sweden. The feministic capital of the world. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.

>>10544487
ftfy

>>10544709
>Kamala Harris

>>10544845
i can report that it is on the front page of huffpost for my US IP, but quite long scroll down

>>10544835
She created the algorithm, you brainlet

>>10544842
fake news as usual

>>10544865
what does the algorithm do?

>>10544871
Compiles their radio telescope data into a visualization I imagine

>>10544845
NPCs in comment sections are already being programmed to accept it.

When did /sci/ become /r9k/?
Suddenly theres a lot of threads crying about this woman

>>10544865
>>10544875
>>10544871

so converting data into imagery is now newsworthy? so every MRI technician should get exposure

>>10544888
it's just visitors. I hope they fuck off to their retard friendly boards soon.

>>10544612
I'm more angry about a computer scientist getting all of the credit over the astrophysicists.

>>10544897
yeah pretty much. hype machines are bad

>>10544337
>noble
do americans actually call it this?

>>10544865
actually she "supervised the training of the AI"

>>10544888
It's what happens when fake news spins a scientific event for their own purposes, the autists run over here to verify that it is indeed fake news. What can you do?

>>10544899
yeah. this. except i’m not really angry tho, just adds to the jadedness

>>10544436
She's qt af, but she has small milkies. Her phenotype is lacking.

>>10544693
so this is the power of postgraduate education

>>10544871
>>10544897

>Since astronomical signals reach the radio telescopes at slightly different rates, the researchers had to figure out how to account for that so calculations would be accurate and visual information could be extracted.

>As MIT explained:

>Bouman adopted a clever algebraic solution to this problem: If the measurements from three telescopes are multiplied, the extra delays caused by atmospheric noise cancel each other out. This does mean that each new measurement requires data from three telescopes, not just two, but the increase in precision makes up for the loss of information.

>The algorithm then reconstructed and refined the original images to prepare the final historical image of the black hole. CHIRP can also be used for any imaging system that uses radio interferometry.

>>10544337
She looks like she fucks black guys.

>>10544765
It's obviously not a single photograph. They used an array of observatories across the world to make the effective diameter of the "telescope" big enough to resolve it as something larger than a tiny smudge. So by necessity it's a composite image, made with combined data from the different observatories, stitched together using computers. At the resolution they're dealing with, it's basically impossible to not have gaps in the data.

>>10544944
why are you so angry/salty ?

>>10544940
>it requires data acquisition rates that have been impossible until now tho
>thanks to better computers this is the first time it was feasible

>>10544948
>It's obviously not a single photograph.
what exactly do you think a photograph is or a camera does?

>>10544950
Ok, now this is just desperation. You want to believe she didn't do anything, that's it. You don't give a fuck about the reality.

>>10544342
You do realize that the smartest woman on earth is dumber than a highschool dropout and 100% of her success is thanks to her orbiter, much like the whore Marie Curie who basically got a nobel prize by buying her superior husband a coffee?

>>10544961
it’s true though. that’s what computer scientists are recruited onto physics experiments to do. physicists need help on research level computing so they get CS grad students to do that while they worry about astrophysics

>>10544397
You're a fucking retard

>>10544409
Or beloved media spreading highly correct information again.

>>10545007
at least most of them say she's behind the "image" instead of the actual physics. AOC though, and admittedly I like her, but i hope she also congratulated the other members of the collaboration too right?

>>10545022
She is behind the algorithm who made the image possible

>>10545022
>AOC though, and admittedly I like her,
wtf when did I clicked on reddit.

You /sci/faggs are good at science, but you do not fucking understand the /pol/itical implications. The media is now going to continue to mass report on her so it looks like she was the leader of the project or even the only fucking member of the project. Just wait, soon they will go after the evil incels ar 4chan daring to call out their BS. Ten years from now kids in elementary will be reading in their science textbooks how this cunt was the first person to take a pic of a black hole while fighting off internet racist, and that is the reason she didn't receive a .noble prize. All because some dumb fucking journalists said so. I call this the Marie Curie effect.

>>10545022
She is behind the algorithm that made the image possible. For example, the JPEG has one kind of algorithm and the PNG has another kind of algorithm

>The JPEG compression algorithm operates at its best on photographs and paintings of realistic scenes with smooth variations of tone and color. For web usage, where reducing the amount of data used for an image is important for responsive presentation, JPEG's compression benefits make JPEG popular.

Someone had to come up with this

>>10545036
no you fucking whore. stop spreading misinformation

>>10545043
imagine being this retarded. Worst example ever.

>>10545044
It's not misinformation.
>This is the MIT computer scientist whose algorithm led to the first real image of a black hole.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/10/meet-katie-bouman-woman-behind-first-black-hole-photo/

>>10544850
underrated

>>10545041
nah, pretty much guaranteed this all gets forgotten in 24 hours and the only thing anybody will ever see in a textbook is the picture, or maybe even more likely a better rendering of the data

>>10545049
cool, the headline admits she is a computer scientist. that makes it clear; astrophysicists did an experiment to take astrophysical data, and then a computer scientist imaged it. cool story sis

>>10545061
>Since astronomical signals reach the radio telescopes at slightly different rates, the researchers had to figure out how to account for that so calculations would be accurate and visual information could be extracted.

>As MIT explained:

>Bouman adopted a clever algebraic solution to this problem: If the measurements from three telescopes are multiplied, the extra delays caused by atmospheric noise cancel each other out. This does mean that each new measurement requires data from three telescopes, not just two, but the increase in precision makes up for the loss of information.

>The algorithm then reconstructed and refined the original images to prepare the final historical image of the black hole. CHIRP can also be used for any imaging system that uses radio interferometry.

So this is the power of female "coding"?

>>10545076

lol, this is work a code monkey could do easily

>>10544337
how many monumental scientific achievements have you been a part of OP?

>>10545082
It's not even about that. It's horrible code. She's copy & pasting code like a fucking imbecile moron. She obviously never heard of functions.

>>10545071
how about look at the data acquisition for this experiment was insane compared to most astrophysics. the dataset was ridiculous and new computing techniques were basically a prerequisite

>>10545089
to clarify, i mean that the amount of data was unprecedented in how huge it was

Kek the cuckolds who actually sniped the pic of black hole should go and destroy all the data. If they were really men they would go and make it all vanish and never speak to SJWized western world again. Working their entire life just so some bitch ass feminist will take all your fame.

Good shit

>>10545087
pro tip:
Ada Lovelace was a fraud too

some beta sent her everything and told her to take credit

>>10545076
Wow, this is actually really bad.

>>10545076
this is, huh, wow!

>>10545071
>Bouman adopted a clever algebraic solution to this problem: If the measurements from three telescopes are multiplied, the extra delays caused by atmospheric noise cancel each other out. This does mean that each new measurement requires data from three telescopes, not just two, but the increase in precision makes up for the loss of information.

That's a technique known as bispectrum phase closure and has existed in radio astronomy and interferometry for a long time. When you put bispectrum phase closure with earth rotation aperture synthesis and VLBI the traditional imaging methods (CLEAN algorithm) become unusable. Basically she worked on finding a way to image a really tiny source using radio instruments spread around the globe while the earth was rotating. Here's the video: https://people.csail.mit.edu/klbouman/pw/papers_and_presentations/starwarps_overview.mp4

I don't know how much she has actually contributed (she IS the primary author though), but I learned a fair bit from watching it.

The 21st century clearly we women are superior in all fields of STEM. No matter what we did in STEM we be praised n worship like a godess of humanity. You boys are just gonna be forgotten , sure is good to be a whamen ,the future is ripe for us. Hehehehe.

>>10544910
This is what most cutting edge physics is about desu.
>identifying planets orbiting distant stars
>identifying particles in collision experiments
>identifying gravitational waves from black hole mergers
All of this consists of feeding data in some ML application.

I don't fucking care who the fuck she is.
The problem is using the "muh wymen stronk" on every fucking place because a walking hole did its work. Infuriating. I wanna off this ride soon.

>>10544888
Hello, just a frenly /tv/ visitor passing through!

>>10544612
OH NO NO NO

>>10545076
>copypasting the same if inside a bunch of other if
i really hope this is fake, baka

I'm tired of fake news like this

Tuns out, she did a sub sub sub part of a programm. A sort of 'adaptor' that just reformats certain data into another format, and then feeds it into the ACTUAL programm.

That misrepresentation of what she actually contributed and what she actually did is nauseing.
Either nepotism on the part of the institution OR the jewmedia.

Sources :

here, what SHE wrote ( HOPSTOOLS ) :
https://github.com/klbouman/hopstools

Here the mother program, where that optional part of her is added, where it acts as a sort of interface to import one more datatype by reformatting it.

source :
https://github.com/sao-eht/eat/graphs/contributors

It's kinda ridiculous, how the jew media morphs this into something COMPLETEY different.

btw: that's also NOT an algo, but just reformatting data.

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You dont understand - she did NOT write and algo at all. sche did NOT write an image tool at all.

What she did code is at max about 4 pages of code - but more importantly - is neither an algo, nor a imaging program
but is an ADAPTOR for a source of data, which reformats the data to feed it into the mother program - of which she contributed that adaptor, which makes up ca 0.01% of said mother program at max AND is marked as "optional" part of the program

sources :
https://github.com/sao-eht/eat/graphs/contributors

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Her whole bundle ("hopstools") here was merged into the mother programm and counted as one commit of 'mother' program.
hopstools, of which she did at max 25%
Her share on contribution on this actual imaging program is about 0.3% max, but OK lets say 1% -
So she did less than 1/4 of 1% of the work. max. If we're very generous.

this little part is the share that her contribution does.
And again : HOPSTOOLS is just an adaptor for another dataformat that can be read into the 'mother' programm. that's it.

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Let me end by saying this : FUCK Jews and FUCK Cunts for their eternal, pathological lying