/sci/ - Science & Math

>Engineering
not science or math

>>10528504
>low quality bait
these threads have been a regular occurrence for atleast a year mate.

Am I retarded for wanting to get into pdt/project management? Regular shit like processing engineering is just too fucking boring and doesn't pay enough. Plus you have to work 50+ hours a week in a shitty plant. Getting to work in an office in a nice city and having the opportunity to climb the corporate ladder just sounds so nice.

>>10528504
Shut the fuck up

>>10528532
The only good paying jobs you will get with an engineering degree are outside of engineering, which really begs the question, why major in an engineering subject in the first place?

I have a PhD in ECE and a comfy research job working on important problems. Feels good man

>>10528553
Name one (1) entry level job that you can get with an engineering degree that pays significantly better than an engineering career.

>>10528532
>What Is Project Management? A project manager is responsible for the planning, oversight, and completion of a project, overseeing workers, the schedule, and the overall budget. They work on engineering projects, as well as software, IT, construction, and a wide variety of other large-scale projects.

Why would anyone want to do this? It's like all the annoying stuff you need to put in design reports such as flow charts and diagrams without any technical skill. Plus it pays much worse

>According to the BLS, the median annual wage for chemical/process engineers was $102,160 in May 2017 with projected job growth of 8% from 2016 to 2026.
>These charts show the average base salary (core compensation), as well as the average total compensation for the job of Project Manager I in the United States. The base salary for Project Manager I ranges from $64,533 to $86,028 with the average base salary of $73,763.

>>10528735
>Name one (1) entry level job that you can get with an engineering degree that pays significantly better than an engineering career.
Software developer. Many EE, ME, etc migrated to software development when they could no longer work in the fields they trained for.

>>10528849
i mean software developing is really well paid, so are CS jobs compared to engineering. I think if you're an ME, you're absolutely fucked if you go software and you dont have ME related hobbies. An EE, eh idk, I feel if it's not strictly EE as in power, then you'll be okay working with hardware as it requires to know how to code etc.

Also, I guess some data science job could land big pay as well. Seems to be pretty hot right now.

>>10528849
how can I migrate to software development too? what are the books I must read to change my field? I can't stand my job anymore...

Is biomedical engineering any good?

>>10529925
It’s super competitive. Anything “cool” is going to be super competitive.

>>10528735
>Name one (1) entry level job that you can get with an engineering degree that pays significantly better than an engineering career.
Quantitative financial analyst, software engineer, project manager, data scientist/analyst, technical salesman, entrepreneur, high school STEM teacher.

>>10529938
This. My buggest regret in college was picking a popular meme major like ME. If you want a good career, choose something that isn't so saturated that people are willing to work for free just to get their foot in the door. Unpopular majors will have smaller class sizes, less competition for jobs, and higher salaries from not being oversaturated.

>>10529938
>>10529969
Thanks for the input, I actually thought biomed engineering wasn't popular at all.
What are some other less popular/competitive engineering (and non-engineering) degrees?

>>10528501
>homer’s lab
What a shot to the past, I used to punch people into there and then hold them hostage because the police couldn’t come in.

>>10529969
>Unpopular majors will have smaller class sizes, less competition for jobs, and higher salaries from not being oversaturated.
Explain physics then

>>10530473
Physics majors that aren’t teachers usually end up in high paying technical fields

>>10528501
>Nuclear operators
>Engineers
Pick one and only one

>>10529404
What's your job/field anon?

As for where to start for SWE that really depends on what your current knowledge level of coding is? Are you still at the basics like arrays and pointers or do you already know algorithms and shit?

>>10528735
Wouldn't that low pay for prod managers from the bls be affected by the fact that pm's is a diverse title. A pm for an engineering firm or some other related thing is going to be paid more than the engs working under him. A pm for a non tech/eng field is going to have a lower salary and bring the bls average down.

>>10529334
Aren't most cs jobs on par with eng once you balance out the fact that 120k in a high COL like Seattle or silicon valley isn't as high as you think it is?

>>10530487
Technical fields as in business?

>>10528504
i fucking wish you nigger

>>10530591
No. I make $62k in Seattle as a mechanical engineer and it's really shitty.

Anybody have any experience in the quantum information field? My university has a few professors doing research involving it, and it looks pretty interesting.

What should I study so that I can get some green new deal bucks when the commies takeover? Something like power electronics or power systems?

>>10530876
Yeah, power seems like a reasonable bet. Environmental engineering would be good too if it weren't already so heavily saturated.

>Physics major here

Was planning on getting an M.S. in EE. Is it worth it or am I wasting my time? I want good bucks bros I think I fucked up.

>>10530950
Get an MSCS. MSCS combined with a BS in Physics is a respectable combination.

What are some fields in Chem/ChemE that are currently expanding or expecting to expand within the next decades? What's stopping everything from just being automated?

about to transfer schools for undergrad, should i do civil or mechanical? i want to live in a big city some day. i dont need to end up rich, just relatively comfortable

i have to choose my discipline soon, is civil engineering decent? it seems comfy and employable.

man it's gonna suck when I finally become an engineer
so many people are gonna die

>>10530270
Ag engineering, mechatronics, anything niche and obscure that your school offers

>>10530270
Optical engineering, pays super well and hardly anyone does it. You have to have a strong physics background though.

>>10530649
How tf do you live in Seattle, work as an engineer, and only make 62k?

>>10530876
If you study power you'll make a lot of money regardless.

>>10531190
>>10531548
From my experience, it can be comfy, but was a bit boring for my personal taste. A cliche answer, but it'll just depend on if you like doing what you actually do at work. CEs will always be needed, and you can easily work outside of the "Civil Engineer" title, especially if you find yourself in a construction company/general contractor as a project engineer or manager (this is where I have experience). If that is not your desired career path, road and traffic systems/design, GIS, infrastructure design, bridges, hydro, etc. are all areas that civil's work in. If it can be built outside of a factory or shipyard, it probably involved a civil. The pay is decent for what you do, at least in Florida, with the Project Managers I'm familiar with making $70+. You will need to get your PE down the road, so do keep that in mind, but the great thing is that you're not forced into a certain state or region to look for jobs.

If you have no desire to go into research, or apply most of your degree's education (this is not an insult, just the reality save for some specializations), then civil is a great choice.

>>10531641
>Optical engineering
Not op but can you tell me more about it or reference me to some articles/information? I'm quite intrigued, it does seem to be a less popular specialization from what I'm reading.

Which area of engineering is the closest to math?

>>10531932
Engineering physics

I'm about to graduate with a BS in chemical engineering with 0 industry experience/internships. How fucked am I? I have a really good gpa and have worked in somewhat prestigious research labs but that's it

>>10531960
just put down your most relevant exp and your gpa on your resume, then just apply just about anywhere. Once you land your first job, the ones after shouldn't be hard to get with experience.

>>10528504
Tell that to the computer you're currently using while driving over that bridge to work in that car of yours. What has your field contributed with?

>>10531641
I come from a tiny european country with no (non shitty) universities that offer this course. Which one would be the closest? Physics engineering?

Are there interesting high-paying jobs for an EE interested.in hardware in Canada or should I pick another discipline?

>>10532631
Check glass door or indeed or something like that for listing. I found the best search term for these jobs is "Analog and Digital engineer"

>>10531960
You stall for time by going to grad school and try to pick up an internship then.

>>10532631
>interesting
>high paying
>straight outta undergrad

LMAO. You aren’t done paying dues yet. Work your shit tier entry level engineering gig and jump companies like everyone else.

>>10531672
>>10532400
it seems like kind of a meme, i mean why needlessly specialize into a subject you necesarily dont understand instead of just doing ee or something?

im from the usa and i have never once heard of optical engineering as an undergrad subject but as long as it's IET or ABET accredited (or whatever your major accredditing insititution is) then go wild..

with that said though im studying electronic engineering (abroad) and i have plenty of professors that do optics and I have classes like optoelectronics and optical communications and RF/optical MEMs so you might want to try that. electronics is technically specialized a bit but it's called IEEE for a reason and not IEE

>>10530566
energy engineering...
I know the basics (arrays, pointers, structures), my eperience is mostly in java, python and matlab and I did an internship in POO, I guess I have an intermediate level I can find solutions that are not optimal I'd say. The thing is I can learn fast but my inductive reasoning still needs to be improved.
I heard the courses in coursera website are not that bad? tbqh I am still hesitating between data science or IoT and I am just wasting my time...
Nice dubs btw

>>10528501
Can ee into nuclear or is it impossible?

>>10533317
Can cheme into ee or is it impossible?

>>10531937
Not engineering

>>10534090
According to NCEES it is.

>>10528501
Hey guys, currently doing civil engineering
I got an offer to do a post-graduate in materials engineering, got a teacher and everything
Should I continue doing civil or change it already so I can fit in?
I'm on my first semester

>>10534692
>first semester
how bout your clowning ass gets a paying internship first.

>every single post in the thread is figuring out which major is best to get a job and make the most money
If you are thinking in this manner you aren't going to be successful anyway, you may as well not waste the money on school.

>>10534738
Pretty true but an engineering degree is still a good choice to leap into other professional fields. I am an EE major and I absolutely love it but I can understand that some people just need a good job.

Lads I'm starting my first job as an engineer soon. I've never had any job before and I'm afraid I'm going to sperg out or something and fuck it up. Does anyone have any recommendations for workplace behavior and shit?
Things like not being a passive aggressive asshole or accidentally being rude n shit.
Thanks /eng/

>>10536739
if someone does something nice say thanks, if you get in someone's way say sorry, don't make inappropriate jokes under any circumstances. don't have any political or philosophical conversations because 99% of people are 99% brain-dead and political/philosophical conversations are cringy anyway. just smile, say thanks/sorry, and if someone talks to you just say some neutral shit back and ask them about themself (because that's what most people really just want to talk about anyway)

>how's life
>good, you?

>everything going alright?
>yeah, you?

>what are you eating?
>a ham n cheese sandwich, you?

>you wanna come out with us after work?
>can't tonight, next time I promise!

>>10533599
i dont know the answer to that question but i wasnt asking if an ee can just magically become a nuclear engineer i meant get into the nuclear industry. also i think maybe you could if you worked closely enough in the industry for long enough no?

How the fuck do I stay awake during classes? I get 8 hours of sleep but as soon as the teachers start speaking I start getting sleepy.

Kinda disillusioned CAD guy/drafter with 2 years of experience for Tier1 Body-in-White supplier from previous threads.

Should I apply for quality planning specialist inside same organization? Job would be supporting PPAP, making control plans, process FMEA, making concepts of control gauges, checking prototypes, negotiating norms and tolerances with OEM etc.

Is it dead end? I wanted to go to Product Development, but there are very slim chances in my organization to do this and near 0 in my country and I would know for sure in autumn which is too late.

Or I can sit back and in 2-3 weeks be "promoted" to work on NA projects as same CAD support, maybe with more development but nothing really serious.

I'm lost honestly. I just wanted to do something difficult and important so they can't replace me with AI or 19-year-old idiot from plant.

t. near 30 year old engineer with 1 month daughter

>>10536774
maybe u got narcolepsy

I studied undergraduate chemistry but I lost interest. Is materials science and engineering a good major?

>>10537003
well if you lost interest in chemistry what makes you think you wont lose interest in materials where its the same shit?

>>10536752
follow this advice, be courteous and just mind your own business without stepping on someones toes or saying some dumb shit. Last think you want is a trip to HR and get fired for making a joke that can be deemed inappropriate.

>>10534738
This is basically true, but they might still be successful. They just won't be successful as engineers. They will probably do what many do which is get the engineering BS and get a non-engineering job.

>>10528501
sneed

>>10537220
based

>4+ years experience, master's degree in electrical engineering, and PE license preferred
I don't have these, but they're trying to recruit me for the position anyway. What kind of salary should I expect?

I'm thinking about taking an autoCAD fundamentals class over the summer since all engineering jobs require experience in it. Is it hard?

The class will be a 3 and 1/2 hour long class

>>10537318
Not the same salary that they would be paying a PE with 4 years of experience, don't get your hopes up. Look up the entry level pay for whatever the job is in a similar company in that area.

>>10536739
stomp on niggas with data and never back down if you know you are right.

>>10537220
Came here to say this.

Gonna graduate with ME degree and zero internship led or relevant work experience, should I kill myself? I’m serious, I’m also a total incel loser with horrible social anxiety. I don’t see any path forward in life, any reason not to end it?

>>10537334
autoCAD is dead software used by dying industries. Learn CATIA. Or alternatively Solidworks if you have no Solidworks experience at all yet.

>>10528501
Engineering is not science or math. It's just glorified /diy/

fuck off this board please

>>10537534
What's your GPA?

>>10537563
bazinga XXDDDD

>>10537563

>>10537559
It is still very common in civil eng.

>>10537587
That may be true, but consider that CATIA is to AutoCAD as Photoshop is to MS Paint.

>>10536739
Pretty easy, do your job, be friendly, REMEMBER PEOPLES NAMES WHEN YOU MEET THEM!, don't talk about spergy things or politics.

>>10537564
3.3 lmaooo

>>10537567
that little faggot is now a meme apparently
ha ha

Just failed pre Calc. I'm giving up on engineering. Can I get through accounting as an idiot in math? I always liked managing money anyway and I unironically love optimizing stuff like that on spreadsheets for hours on end.

>>10537049
Well not entirely I studied organic chemistry, but I realised classes like polymer chemistry and thermodynamics interested me more than core organic chemistry, so I realised materials engineering would be suitable for me

>>10537049
>>10538355
Also I got more into mechanical engineering lately

Anyone ever thought about moving to another country? I've toyed with the idea of moving to another country like germany or japan after I graduate with my BS in chemE.

>>10536828

That feel when no one ITT knows that feel

>>10532631
RF engineering is one of the few fields that you can still design hardware in. Also it is quite a niche field that isn't too popular so the jobs are quite plentiful. I'm in a shit African country and there are plenty of jobs for RF design. So in an advanced country like Canada you should have no problem

>>10537782
Could be worse, I guess. You're going to have a very difficult time, but it's not impossible.

>>10530304
Wow i had forgotten this game. Weird ass wasps

>>10537534
Grad school gambit to stall for time. Unfuck your career.

Do internships actually exist? I'm convinced they're just a running joke at this point.

>>10536774
I am not a functional human being until I drink at least 40 fl oz of coffee

>>10543075
Yes and it was pretty easy to get one, I'm 2nd year EE student and I got one no problem at a startup company. I get a decent pay, my worktime is flexible and most importantly I learn a lot. Ofc sometimes I have to do some niggerwork like soldering in complete prototype PCBs with hundreds of parts but mostly I'm learning a lot there. However I'm not from the US so I have no experience in findig an internship there but considering it's swarming with startup companies I figure it shouldn't be impossible. But don't expect that they will specifically look for you, you are the one who have to contact them.

>>10543075
The only people who I know that got interships in school did bitchwork and none of them got calls back. For them, the internship was only good for learned what working in an office is like.
t. just graduated EE with a 3.27 and no internships and is waiting for security clearance to get a start date

>>10543285
>However I'm not from the US so I have no experience in findig an internship there but
take this from someone that studied in both the usa and the uk: europe is way less competitive in this respect. none of my peers gave a shit, none of them studied, internships were a passing thought to even the best students who were the only people that bothered. engineering isn't nearly as respected so my classes were small in comparison. in the usa it's the exact opposite

>>10543075
My faculty advisor warned me that getting an internship would be harder than getting a job. Everyone I hear complains about how hard it is to land a good eng job so if getting an internship is harder, must be fucking impossible.

Also doesn't help that I go to a fairly average state school and I have less than a 3.0 gpa. I'm going to try and get it up next year (junior year) but I've kind of fucked myself since I have to start applying to places before I'll have time to bring that gpa up. I'm honestly debating about taking a semester/year off to delay graduation so I'll have another summer to get a internship because I doubt anyone will hire me next year. At this point I'd even be willing to do an unpaid internship so long as they give me something nice to put on my resume.

>>10543285
Are you a heterosexual cisgender male of European descent?

>>10543312
How did you get security clearance? Ex-mil?

What are some good certifications and trainings for a mechanical engineer that wants to get a job in the robotics/automation field?

>>10544062
The position requires it so they had me apply for a secret clearance. The interim clearance is a condition of employment. I'm still waiting for it.

>>10544071
Just learn low-level microcontroller programming in C and also how to use standard computer vision libraries like OpenCV and OpenGL, maybe some GPU programming

>>10543531
I physically have to brace myself to keep from throwing up when hiring managers start giving their corporate cult-ish pep talk about how they want to see applicants with 'life experience' and who 'are themselves' seriously are you paying me to be your friend or to do a job? I can be professional without being a unique snowflake. Do I deserve to be homeless because I don't want to pretend to be on ecstasy all day?

>>10544509
this. I talked to a hiring manager at a career fair that wanted to know whether I volunteered in my spare time. How does that have anything to do with what kind of chemical engineer I would be?

>>10544559
>>10544509
Did you not have any work experience on your resume? If not, they will look for some kind of volunteering or extra-curricular just to make sure you have experience dealing with people in a professional environment without spilling spaghetti everywhere and pissing your pants

Any dual engineering major chad here? (Computer eng + electrical engineering doesnt count obviously)

>>10528501
I'm studying CS at a shit uni in Australia. I got a year left and I can do online study. I am really keen on doing engineering (either mechanical or electrical), would it be worth it? In the long term I see engineering be a stable career whereas programming (the only real job you can do with a CS degree) being in flux and you becoming worthless to employers as you get older because you are not familiar with the new languages and because there are a ton of young people who can code in the language they want

>>10545544
also beside math and physic majors who can do a select few of engineering jobs you are required to have a bachelors in engineering to work as an engineering, in programming you dont. And as AI gets rid of so many finance and accounting jobs I see it getting oversaturated quickly and easily.

>>10544071
a PhD

>>10544509
Its just how women force themselves into a workplace

Just had an exam on op amps and it was hard as fuck. Professors obsessed with bode plots fuck. Theres another section of op amps and their exams was easy af, literally gave them a circuit with an op amp and asked for output voltage. I need this class to graduate reeeeee

>>10544071
What jobs are even available besides working with PLC in industrial automation and RnD labs that require a PhD?

>>10544648
MechE and Chem, probably gonna change

>>10546406
So why do you hate yourself?

>>10548413
My university doesn't offer ChemE, and I don't live in an oil state, so I can't do PetrolE, so I figured this was the next best thing. I also just have an affinity for chemistry, and I feel that a double in these two would be a good mix to allow me to work and study in a wide variety of fields. Mostly interested in fuels, gasses, engines, chemicals, water-treatment, etc.

>>10537318
>>10537357
The offer is $75k in Seattle (high cost of living). Should I negotiate higher?

>>10545657
It's how men prop up women so they can join the workforce*

>>10544648
It seems pointless. Why have two sort of related 4 year degrees when you could have a masters or be on your way to a PhD

>>10549058
Gotta start somewhere. But test the waters anyway, all they can do is say no.

>>10549058
What kinda perks? Any stock/bonuses? How much vacation? Are there any coworkers with a PE who can sign off on your stuff?

Gotta look at the whole package my dude.

>>10549297
>stock/bonuses
5% 401k match, but no stock or bonuses that I am aware of
>vacation
two weeks
>coworkers with a PE
I am totally guessing, but probably.

I just got accepted into a European uni on par with American Ivy League in terms of international rankings for Electromechanical Engineering.

However, I have started to realize over these few months that if I actually want to make big bucks, I need to go into software/web development and preferably move to the USA. Not stay in the UK and get an engineering job.

Will my ElectoMech degree still be good so long as I do programming on the side or should I try to switch to Computer Science or Software Engineering during my first year?

>>10549340
Digital Engineering will always be huge, switch to that. Comp. Sci. is nice, don't get me wrong, but in higher supply

>>10549340
>>10549370
Get out of Article 13 town ASAP tho, yeah.

>>10549309
Ehh, could be worse.

>>10545544
What uni? I go to a shit tier uni in Sydney for ME.

I stared into the void and broke my mind. I saw machines consisting of simple geometry that acted logically, but whose operation was beyond human comprehension. I tried to comprehend and did. I came to realize the true horror that this world really is. If you realize it too you'll go nuts and start repeatedly scribing the epitaph of stevinius in goat's blood. It's just so simple yet incredibly complicated.

So basically I think I have burnout.

>>10549528
Take a semester to work an internship.

>>10532148
my field has enabled your stupid ass to build these things peasent. you should be greatful that i dont waste my time on trivial applications of my work, otherwise your brainlet ass would be out of a job.

>>10549537
I already have a job. I put my soul in a box at night when I sleep too so that I can escape the horror.

>>10549278
2 bsc + phd > 1 bsc + phd

I'm gonna start applying for my first full time job now, been looking around and I'm not really sure what to do. I'm an SE so I can go the programming route for big money but it means I'll probably end up doing webshit the rest of my life and as much as I like it as a hobby and (I think) am pretty good at it, I just don't really have a passion for it. I really want to work in something related to space whether it's a SATCOM company or manufacturing but all the entry level positions seem to pay really poorly compared to anything over in the webdev side, however it has a much higher chance of putting me in a position where I can get my PEng which I'm interested in getting.

idk anons, this is sort of a new experience for me and I'm not sure what the better choice is. How much value would you guys place on money vs an interesting career?

>>10549515
swinburne

you must go to uts or western sydney

>>10549781
Yeah, western Sydney. I've heard the uws engineering course and the unsw course aren't really that different but that doesn't stopped me from cringing everytime I tell someone I go to uws. Also I kinda worry it'll hurt my chances at getting into a decent post graduate program.

>>10549340

Become an expert in complex robotic systems, including the firmware, and study any extra software/programming in your spare time. Become a hugely qualified professional in most parts of the planet.

>>10549719
1bsc + phd + more experience you got while not wasting time on a second bsc > 2 bsc + phd > 1 bsc + phd

>>10549340
>web development
disgusting. gtfo of this thread

>>10549720
i chose the interesting career route and don't regret it. i already have more money than i need. if i had more money in my bank account i dont really see how it could change my happiness level significantly. whereas if i had to do webshit i'd hate 40 hours of my week. i work in aerospace research for the govt

>>10549929
> Yeah, western Sydney. I've heard the uws engineering course and the unsw course aren't really that different but that doesn't stopped me from cringing
not many people are snobbish about where you went. 10 years down the line in your career it wont matter. Seriously. At least for me most of what you'd learn in a CS degree (whether you go to a good or bad school) wouldnt matter much to my job.

> Also I kinda worry it'll hurt my chances at getting into a decent post graduate program.
In Australia education is artificially growing. Schools will take anyone if you just meet their bare minimum. But I wouldn't pursue postgrad studies in engineering. The job market is already shit as it is for graduate engineers with bachelor degrees.

>>10549992
they get paid more than engies

>>10549720
You got a false dilemma going on here anon. You need to learn about wealth and how it’s built. Side hustle webshit and do whatever is best for your career. Your PE, especially as a software guy, is a big deal and worth way more than any upfront cash payout. Like fuck little nigga, you have so much to learn and I want to smack you.

That fucking feel when applied for CAE position inside my company, went to interview, they said I was a good, strong candidate and after a while leader of CAE guys said that it is political, they are looking at outside guys, more experienced position (should have been "senior CAE specialist"), that they want to learn from the guy CFD and heat analysis etc.

Ok, I wasn't allowed to 2nd interview. Now 2 months later a new colleague comes to out office, 24 year old guy who finished uni 9 months ago and had 6 months internship in one company and 3 in another.

...that fucking feel. Also I'm >>10536828

I'm gonna graduate BASc mechanical engineering substudy aerospace soon. I'm like an 88average student with a lot of 90s and good relationships with my profs.

What can I expect upon graduation? I'm a Canadian and I'm willing to work in the USA. Has anyone ever had luck with leveraging their professors to get a job placement?

Do I need to go to grad school or is it not worth it? I honestly don't see what I'm going to learn in grad school that would be more helpful than what I learn in the field.

>>10537203
Wait, there are people who actually want to do this shit as a job? TOPKEK fuck that shit just give me the degree so I can cuck a finance major and take his job on Wall Street.

>>10538018
You can get through certain engineering fields as an idiot in math. Civil and Industrial for example.

>>10550810
Explain.

>>10551071
The quantitative reasoning skills you hone in engineering school make you a perfect fit into finance when compared to business majors who took, at most, a ((((business calculus)))) course. Essentially super spreadsheet monkeys skim coated with the glitz of big banking. You don’t need to do that to make money though.

>>10551086
My gf is a finance graduate with master's and CFA level 1. She hates engineers who work in finance, lol. Is it actually better money than engineering? Should I study for CFA level 1 this summer before I graduate? Have you done CFA?

I think she sold her CFA study books unfortunately but I'm sure I can pirate some digital versions.

I'm a telecommunications engineer with masters on optics communications that can't find a fucking job on my ass of country here in South America.
Where can I immigrate to? Seriously, I love working with optics, but I obviously can't survive without a job.
My thesis (and the paper I wrote about it) was about WDM-PON using self-seeding techniques btw.

Welcome to the club. Biology Major here: Made a thesis about drug design using docking. No one gives a shit. My advice: Try to do internships abroad before this place chains you for ever. Then after you have proven your worth attempt to migrate as a skilled worker.

>>10551184
Most of the places I found won't sponsor people from SA. They are likely to get people from their region. Since I don't have working experience in the field, it's even more difficult.
The ironic thing is that most of my research is done using the same software that the companies usually use to model optical networks (OptiSystem). Which kinda counts as experience.
Any tips on countries that will have companies that risk sponsoring visas for people in my situation?

do employers give a fuck about math, physics, EE, other related minors, etc... or no?
i assume they don't

>>10551731
No. The only minors/double majors that are worth a shit are business or some foreign language. You are objectively better off using that time to take low level masters courses.

>>10551754
thank you

>>10551754
Different anon here.

Shit, that's an interesting idea. I was offered a position in research group for aerospace materials research and I'm considering taking up this offer. My final semester of undergraduate is this summer and I have some courses out of the way already so I have room to fit at least one masters course if I can do that. Correct me if I'm wrong but MASc is the research thesis and a couple courses per semester?

>>10551779
Go talk to the research professor and have all your work from this semester count towards your MS.

>>10551801
Alright, I can meet him next week. Is grad school actually going to be worth my time? I was excited to start working and making some fucking money, you know... Delayed gratification is only beneficial to some limit.

>>10551811
Dude just get that shit done now so you aren’t sucking ass trying to do it 5 something years from now when you got a life. Its like what, an extra year if you get a jump on it?

>>10551851
There's a cool custom machine design and manufacture facility in my city. Maybe I can do work there while I study the master's. I have had crazy amounts of free time even during this, my penultimate semester wherein I took an overload of 7 courses.

Is it common for engineering graduate students to do a full time engineering graduate job while executing research for MASc?

And what do you mean getting a jump on it? Can you specify how work from my current semester would count in my MASc?

Just to be perfectly clear: I did one second year Numerical Methods course and six fourth year courses in Jan-Apr. As of now, I will take five fourth year courses in May-Aug to complete the requirements of my degree.

>>10551874
If your on a research track, you should be getting funded IE paid. Even then most grads I know do work but it’s shit like bar tending or some night job with flex hours.

>how work would count in my MASc?
Most lower level masters courses are really upper level undergrad courses with more workload/detail. Meaning you would attend the same class as the undergrads next semester but instead of it being listed as 4XX its listed as 5XX and your Prof is giving you more work and grading you on a stricter scale.

If you can get in the program now before you graduate you can shave some serious time off the masters commitment.

>>10551908
Wow, yeah, my Aerodynamics and Flight Performance course from this semester is also taught as a master's level course, my prof was telling us his master's students had the same project that we did. Okay, that makes perfect sense, I hope I can pull that off.

And I am being offered some small salary I guess but I can't tell immediately from the offer how much it is and I'm in the middle of finals at the moment. I'll study hard this weekend for the midweek exams I have next week and see if I can go do talk about scholarships and whatnot because I'm fairly certain that there were deadlines for the significant grants that I would have missed late last year.

>wanted to go into hardware as an ee
>get pigeonholed into PM roles in a consulting firm
Please kill me

>>10528501
im ee and i got the interview i been waiting on for a research internship on nuclear waste. its basically chemistry but my dream is to ee at a nuclear plant

dont know how retarded i am but im hyped boys lets gooooooooooooooooooo

>>10552048
I’m a Mech E and I do a legit Chem E’s job. Makes a lot of my college Chem E friends rich in sodium.

>>10552058
good work anon proud of you

>>10537782
Don't trip about it. I had a 3.1 with no relevant experience in ME. Got a job about 6 months after grad with 50k. Worked there for about a year and now at entry level R&D position at 75k in a low COL area.

>>10550135
>>10550135
some of them do. you think i dont realize that?

Anyone ever think that maybe they should quit /eng/? I got into this because my dad was /eng/ then he switched over to M&A and started using his /eng/ background in corporate to make giant $tacks as a consultant.

I got into this because I believed the meme that I'd be able to go transfer my "problem solving" background to anything and go have a dream career with lots of options but now I think I should of just gone comp sci or some shit.

>>10552612
u dont sound like u have any clear goal or interest which makes u no better than a roastie

>>10552119

Jimmy Stewarts character in "It's A Wonderful Life" dreamed of being an Engineer and had to "settle" for owning a bank.

really makes you think.

>>10552612
if all you want to do is make money, leverage your talents and construct the jewish stool of wealth.

>one more month till my first internship
I'm so scared, it's not even engineering it's a supervisor position for a railroad.

>>10552694
>u dont sound like u have any clear goal or interest
Isn't that the problem that affects most eng students?

>>10552724
I'd like to make money and enjoy what I'm doing. If I solely wanted money I would have tried to sell my soul and try to make it on wallstreet.

>>10552743
>I'd like to make money and enjoy what I'm doing.
i'd like to do two chicks at the same time, but that aint happening without a million dollars.

>tfw 2nd year nukeng
why is this so easy, boys?

EE Junior here
Is it a bad idea to take intense, senior-level classes as a junior?

The class is integrated circuit design, which has a lot of coding in C. And the labs supposedly take 7-15 hours. It only requires our sophomore level intro to circuits and digital logic as its pre reqs. The rest of my work load that semester isnt so bad but I'm still nervous about it

Any environmental engineers here? How do you like your job? I'm a CC student transferring to a university for civil engineering with a focus in environmental engineering. I hear that it's a lot of boring permitting and that kind of shit, but I wanna do something that actually benefits the environment and includes field work. Would another degree be better suited, or can you get jobs like this with environmental engineering?

>>10552879
Shit's hard as all fuck. Avoid.

>>10552879
Wait, coding in C? Why? Fuckers are all in love with Assembly as a rule.

>>10552808
nuclear is dying and fading.

>>10553027
Right, we'll just power our warships with prayer and love.

>>10552997
How hard exactly? I'm looking at my uni's grade distribution and the professor I signed up for has above 3.0 for this specific class. ... This is likely to be the easiest semester I'll have until I graduate, as well, because Im taking 2 "easy-ish" sophomore level classes next semester for reasons that would take too long to explain.


I'd kind of like to take it, because Ive heard some people say if you talk about the projects you do for this class on resumes, it looks good. And I don't want all my EE electives to all be easy, blow off crap about light, optics, materials, etc. After I get my first internship, maybe. But if I get this out of the way in the fall, I can brag about it when applying for internships next year. (Which I desperately need)

>>10553119
I took "Analog Integrated Circuit Layout & Design" and it was a pretty hard class. If you've taken a class on solid-state electronics then it'll be a bit easier. The class will most likely be curved to hell so I wouldn't worry so much about grades.
If at all possible, try to figure out what you like to do within the field as soon as possible so you can tailor your electives towards it.
I've not got experience in getting internships, but I recently got my entry-level job offer and I'd recommend having at least one really interesting, bang-on project that you can really talk about. My offer is for working with RF simulations and the only real reason they were interested was because my senior design project was using a phased array with a software-defined radio and shit.
Also I don't know why you'd be coding in C, so I probably don't have the right idea of what your class is. Caveat emptor.

>>10552879
>The class is integrated circuit design, which has a lot of coding in C
that doesn't sound right

I'm tired of analysing transistor circuits. I'd rather learn about opiod receptors and shit.

Looks like I'm stuck with this shitty life. Can someone recommend resources to get good at analyzing circuits with BJT? I mean finding the gain, high frequency poles, low frequency poles, etc. I've failed my electronics 2 class twice and uf I fail once more then they'll kick me out

>>10552879
Is it like an introduction to VLSI class? If it is then it's gonna be ez. At my school it's cross listed as a CS class and it's definitely designed for people who don't know what the fuck a MOSFET (only acting as a switch!) is. You should be fine as an EE.

>>10552879
I took (and dropped) IC design. Stay away if you have no friends in that class. I didn't. The project we had to do took WAAAAAAY more than 7-15 hours.

There is no programming. We used Cadence Virtuoso to design our circuits. My partner and I did a pseudorandom shift generator to flash a taillight in a seemingly random pattern. He ended up doing the circuit design and I dropped

>>10553335
I dont know if its an introduction to VLSI, but building on top of a VLSI intro class I already took. Which I barely made a B in. Basically I have only taken intro to circuits and intro to digital logic, but I needed an extra class to be a full time student so I picked this senior level VLSI I technically have the pre reqs for, I havent done the intermediate electronics stuff that my degree plan implies I should take before taking senior level classes

> Bipolar and MOS field effect transistor characteristics; VLSI fabrication techniques for MOS and bipolar circuits; calculation of circuit parameters from the process parameters; design of VLSI circuits

This is basically what I'm doing

>>10553303
Youre probably right and i misunderstood what I read. I think its just verilog and some other software

>>10553398
>intro to circuits
So you haven't worked with non-linear circuits like amplifiers yet? If so, then yeah you're going to have to put time into catching up to what you should have entered with. You'll have to learn how transistors work in general and at the IC level at the same time. However, if that's your only difficult class I'd say its doable if you can self-study. Then your intermediate circuits class will be ez as fuck when you take it.

just got an F on my op amp design class fuck im so fucking stupid. I went over the exam and I made so many stupid fucking mistakes. FUCK

>>10553437
>op amp design
just like lmao current mirror, differential amp, and class A amp
No, I feel you anon. Designing an opamp was the final project for >>10553264 and the only reason I passed it was because the professor let us set our own specifications. Ended up slapping down whatever-sized transistors and setting whatever the sim results were as my design specs. I can't imagine having to do that shit on an exam.

>>10553398
hows the weather in illinois?

>>10553437
>>10553463
Op-amp were designed by the jews to keep the White man down!

>>10552022
>not going into controls
its your fault and you know it

>>10552022
lol im about to graduate and I want to go into hardware. Been working on an 8 bit microprocessor to add to my resume, hope I land a job because my gpa is fucking shit lel.

>>10529925
I'm a mechanical eng grad student with some biomedical eng research.
The only things biomedical engineers do in my entire country is maintain MRI machines. I applied for those jobs anyway but the pay is terrible.
Too many graduates per job.

>>10553498
I'm not stupid enough to copy paste a syllabus from my own uni.

>>10536739
How to Win Friends and Influence People. If you are serious about upping your social game, you will read it.

>>10552048
>obtain one of the most challenging degrees over the course of 4 years
>gets a job as a garbage man

>>10555654
im not sure researching nuclear waste is tantamount to dumpster diving

also id be getting an ee job at a nuclear plant ideally, but anyway the point is twofold:

1) its related to nuclear
2) its an internship which i guess is better than potentially nothing

>>10555684
Why do you talk like a retarded nigger?

>>10555697
no YOU are the athiest glow in the dark i wont fall for it

>>10553662
There are only three ways to get a job after graduation. GPA is irrelevant for all of them.
1) you had an internship
2) you DON'T have a white penis
3) you're willing to move halfway across the country and work for a municipal water treatment plant in rural kansas for 40k/yr

Basically the only ways to find gainful employment as an engineer

>>10553534
Industrial controls is fucking blue collar cancer.

t. industrial controls

Thoughts?

What do you do when you like something in Engineering but you don't know if that is going to make you get a job(maybe because it's new, too expensive for most of the industry to try it or so far appears to be only used in researches)?

>>10556693
Go to grad school under an advisor who specializes in that

>>10556721
I see. Yet, I fail to see the point of doing grad school in Engineering if I want to work in it, not doing researches.
Tbh, I may sound stupid or arrogant here and if so I'm sorry, but if I did Engineering and then go to grad school and do researches, why not just do math/physics if in these cases the research is the whole point of getting a degree? I'm pretty sure I could do research in physics about many things I learn in Engineering.

>>10556730
First of all, you could just do the MS and get out. Second, if you actually saw what BS-level engineering is like you would think twice about whether you want to go to grad school. Third, math/physics grad programs wont teach you anything about engineering research, and based on your post it sounds like the topic you are interested in is an engineering topic, so going for math/physics would make no sense. What's the topic anyway?

>>10556736
Applying AI in Power System.

>>10556741
Yeah you are going to probably need at least an MS to work on that because it is more cutting edge. And I can almost guarantee you aren't going to find math/physics professors working on that. Look for an ECE department somewhere with a solid power program and try to connect with the professors there. If you get a PhD under them you're basically going to get a job in that. It helps if you collaborate or intern with whoever is funding the research so you get connections. If you really don't want to stay for PhD than just tell them you want PhD so they actually give a fuck about you and just dip out after the masters

>>10556753
Ok. Thank you very much, anon.

I need to write some kind of scientific document around 4 pages of word about anything related to CS/CE or telecoms, any insteresting subjects? Ive been feeling kinda demotivated so its hard to think of an interesting topic that i want to write 4 pages about

>>10556205
Yeah, I'm thinking that's based

>>10557248
5G or 6G

>>10556205
>Professional Engineers and Land Surveyors
Civil engineer? I always thought it sounded like a comfy career.

>>10555967
I like blue collar engineering. It is more hands on, less pretentious, and has less drama

>>10552879
Analog IC design is madness. It is one of the hardest areas in EE

>>10558575
What's hard about it exactly? Isn't electric engineering basically just like playing legos?

I got fucked by all my top choices and am now most likely attending pic related for nuclear engineering(no homo tho). How fucked am I?

>>10544056
Yes, but it shouldn't matter since I'm not in Western Europe and as I said it's a fairly small company with 6 EEs and like 6 other people (codemonkey, manager, salesman) plus a couple of interns. Also it is a huge problem at my university that CEs and EEs are not finishing their degree (even BsC) because the companys are taking them with a decent enough pay as codemonkeys.

>>10558591
>its ee just like playing legos
no

im not the guy you replied to and im not even saying ee is difficult but like .001% of ee is actually playing with logic gates like legos and that's only a small part of digital

even simple analog cricuits with transistors are often difficult to intuit. analog is retarded

>>10558657
I have no idea what you mean when you're referring to analog and digital.

>>10558669
the guy you replied to said
>analog ic design

digital is quantized like computers 01010101 where transistors are just used as switches

analog is like cascode amplifiers where transsitors are used as amplifiers and you kind of just have to know the equations

>>10558514
Mechanical.

Got admitted to grad school. I also now have my dream full-time job.
I've got to start thinking of if I could balance both. I'm not planning on being in academia or research but the grad degree would complement my existing graduate degree nicely. The dream would be for work to pay for the second graduate degree.

Anyone have experience doing both work and a graduate degree? Curious how I'd balance time with attending classes during the workday. Got to figure out how many semesters and how many credits a semester it would take.

>>10558603

NCSU NucE here. Only reason I didn't go to PSU was because they didnt have any gibs for me.

They're about to split off from the MechE department and hire a shitload of new profs. You'll be in good hands but good luck making it through the NE program. Very high attrition/drop out rate at my school and half the required classes are taught for grad students anyway.

>>10537003
It's not bad. I wish more math were involved but I also read math textbooks as a hobby. I haven't taken any chemistry classes beyond general chemistry but I get a good amount of physics classes. I'd recommend it.
t. MatSci undergrad

>>10557248
More like you aren't knowledgeable enough about anything to write 4 pages.

>>10558591
no

>>10558704
Sounds like a bad fucking idea. Why get another grad degree anyway? You sure as fuck aren't going to get your PhD while working full time an retaining your sanity

>>10558704

Do you have the option of being a full time grad student with a stipend? I had choice of stay in school as a student or do work+online MS. After accounting for independent living expenses (car/housing/mandatory loan payments etc) and the fact that employers wouldn't cover the entire degree, I figured it would be better to just stay in school till I finished.

IMO the problem I've seen with other working grad students isn't that its hard to find time to do the degree, its integrating it into a full adult lifestyle. Grad school gets in the way of dating/marriage/personal hobbies/travelling as an independent adult so you need a lot of emotional support from friends and family to keep working through your degree. My lifestyle hasn't changed from being an undergrad so I feel nothing different lmao

>>10558567
>hurr durr I love being overworked and underpaid
That is literally sour grapes/stockholm syndrome talking.

>>10558744
I absolutely love seeing comments and hearing opinions like this, it's just so hilarious to me. Not who you were replying to, but some people have no desire to waste away in an office for the rest of their lives, and I really do feel bad that you've fallen for the meme that that's the only comfy way of living.

>>10558730
Not trying to get a PhD or stay in a research setting. I want to be a practicing professional and the two fields work together frequently. The program is a dual degree program so I would be able to start with some credits already. It had been a goal of mine when I started looking at schools/majors/careers to get into.

>>10558731
>IMO the problem I've seen with other working grad students isn't that its hard to find time to do the degree, its integrating it into a full adult lifestyle.
That's pretty insightful. I was a non-traditional student so it feels weird being 27 and just getting my first job with benefits. On the one hand I'm anxious to do more traditional adult activities and hobbies but I've also been in school for so long that I think, "Why stop now?". I've really let my social life go as I focused on school and maybe I should try to change that. Some of my coworkers have been there some 35+ years and are content so I could see being fine where I'm at but I had this as a goal 7 years ago when I was planning what type of education to get so I wonder if 20 yo me would be disappointed if I didn't pursue it. Getting the dream job this early in my career really threw a wrench in my plans but in an overall good way.

>>10558777
But anon, I literally do field work for my job and it is total shit.

>>10558675
I design power electronics (Ms Sci), I know a shit ton about transistors and solid-state physics and analog IC design still scares the crap out of me.

>>10558686
You just bored or what?

>>10559023
Why is it hard?

>>10559023
isn't power considered analog? its not digital

Just started M.E. classes, I rememeber back then someone said that there were three books that basically covered the foundations of ME, I think it was J.P. books but I'm not sure which, could anyone give me an pointer?

Really happy to say Americans finally doing better on the employment front to be honest.

>>10559391
Which Americans are you referring to exact? Native Americans? MesoAmericans (aka Hispanics)?

>>10559040
Bad pay, shit hours, low prestige, little room for doing actual engineering, constant threat of layoffs from management. It's just a shitty field that gets no respect.

>>10559381
Also interested

>>10559381
same here someone spill the beans

>>10552717
Imagine getting movies confused with real life.

Where the fuck do I find the drive to give a fuck about school anymore?

>>10560140
Setting goals help me a lot. Like I want my own company and I want to be a recognized succesful professional in my field. This helps me getting through the shit courses which doesnt even interest me.

>>10559794
>>10559777
>>10559381
Mechanics and Strength of Materials by J.P. Den Hartog

Mechanical Vibrations is his third book and kind of a niche topic. All his books are short “appetizer” books you should read like 1 semester prior. You will still lean heavily on your textbook for the courses.

>>10559761
You really can’t get a better job? I don’t even have my PE yet and I have recruiters breathing down my neck. What are you doing man?

>>10560140
I had motivation and drive until I finished my third year and realized I was barely halfway done. (Thanks to 900 shit lib humanities credits required to graduated all with required attendance).

Can someone solve a math problem for me? Simplify

16÷2[8 - 3(4-2)]+1

>>10560723
>>10560140
Realize that engineering school is a 4 year hazing period before you get let into the club. It’s designed to burn you out.

Current EE student here. I'm in my second year of college and I just completed my first co-op for school. In high school, I did 3 internships with the same company I did the co-op with. How did/do the rest of you get through college? I've never used anything I've learned in school at work, and the math is really hard.
>inb4 study
I do, but it seems I manage to study everything except what my prof ends up putting on the test

>>10560855
Second year EE as well, what did you work? The only things I learned at uni that I used at work is C programming and how to use MOSFETs as switches.

>/eng/ critiques my resume
>calls it shit
>basically tells me to remove all my jobs and all my classes, thus leaving my resume almost completely blank
>end up with a few interviews without adjusting my resume
Yeah fuck you guys. None of you know shit.

>>10560434
They're all lowball offers. I'm still not making as much as a CS intern. Engineers just don't make that good of money.

>>10561017
>Yeah fuck you guys. None of you know shit

>Taking career advice from a Peruvian Vihuelist Association

>>10561049
Are we calling $100k/yr “lowball” offers?

>>10561103
A CS intern makes $95k. I am ahead of most of my peers and make $85k. Apartments cost $2k/month here.
>hurr durr move somewhere cheaper
Then I would make even less.

>>10561121
Idk what to tell you man, I get offers from up near Seattle all the time and they are at least $100k. $150k+ for anything near San Fran.

>>10560938
I mostly worked with AutoCAD or IBM Rational Doors doing spec work. I did a lot of spec tracing, which pretty much only requires the spec sheets and Excel. For college I have to learn Matlab, Python, and VHDL, but I have yet to use any of them outside of class.

>>10561121
>A CS intern makes $95k.
am i missing something? do you live in london? on what planet does an intern make six figures

>>10561287
A friend of mine was a CS intern at Amazon in Seattle and got paid around that much.

>>10534090
why?

>>10561121
>Intern making $95k
Sorry mate but I call bullshit, I'm not from the US but I make like ~$4k as an EE intern working 20 hours a week. Fuck even a senior EE doesn't make that much money where I live.

>>10561295
so a top company in an expensive area, i think it's a bit weird to say
>a cs intern makes 95k
based off of that anecdote

>>10561400
US wages are extremely high but yeah it's bullshit

>>10561407
It’s cherry picking and whining about extreme cases that are far from the norm. Petro E interns were making $100k not too long ago and there are still transportation engineering internships that pay around that much.

>inb4 WOW SO MUCH MONEY!

All those jobs are either dangerous as fuck (transportation), have shit tier quality of life ( Oil n Gas) or are in crazy high COL areas (CS/anything near Silicon Valley/Forest).

You knobs also don’t understand that compensation is more than just what you get paid out in cash every two weeks, interns don’t get stock, interns don’t get bonuses, interns don’t typically get a bunch of stuff that makes up the total compensation package of a normal employee.

You fuckin’ guys are so hung up on salary, god damn.

>>10561449
>are in crazy high COL areas (CS/anything near Silicon Valley/Forest).
so exactly what i just said then

>first internship interview soon
I'm literally shaking
What the fuck should I do, bros?

>>10561617
just like b urself lmao
They'll probably just ask you about whatever you put on your resume and ask some of those generic behavioral questions. Also some really basic technical questions related to whatever you're applying for. A friend of mine for his job at TI as a QA/QC engineer was asked about deriving the gain of an inverting opamp amplifier.

>>10561299
It's physics with a specialization in the type of physics that's most helpful for engineering. Protip: in the English language the "adjective" comes first (i.e we say red shirt instead of shirt red like in Spanish)

>>10531672
>>10532400
I go to UCF and we're one of the 6 or so unis in the US that offer a photonics engineering undergrad. Not quite optics engineering, but about the same field of interest.
These guys are high in demand. Apparently the major has a 0% unemployment rate and all grads have jobs imediately after school. Some guy got a 90k starting salary in Florida because he was decent at coding on top of the degree despite the fact he "wasn't a top student" according to the undergrad director.
The field is kinda like engineering psychology, systems engineering, etc where is traditionally more of a graduate degree but there are rare unis that offer them as a undergrad degree. If youre looking to be unique and marketable, just study something like one of the majors mentioned above. The simple fact that you'll represent a larger percentage of the graduating workforce will increase your odds. To give you an idea, the guy said theres only 40 -50 something undergrads in the photonics school, and again, its only one of six other unis that offer that undergrad degree.
It might be a good idea because I imagine it could help you avoid the trap of doing shitty tasks and testing for the chads with grad degrees doing the real shit, but then theres also the risk of becoming hyper specialized in something without any real world experience to determine what you reeaally want to do.
Photonics is a relatively young field from what I can tell, and there are high hopes for it so if you like light, lasers, physics, and electrical engineering, it may be worth looking into.

>>10561287
Washington state, dumbass. It says so on my license.

>>10561287
>>10561400
>>10561449
>>10561469
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/software-engineer-intern-salary-SRCH_KO0,24.htm
>all these coping engineers literally can't imagine what it's like to make a decent salary
Wake up you cucks, it's 2019. Nurses and plumbers are clearing $100k while you're still bragging about making $65k in bumfuck nowhere.

>>10561878
>registered nurses making 100k
No shit
>business owners making 100k
No shit

>>10561867
As if I would actually read the thread I don’t know who you are

>>10561897
>business owners
No, just regular fucking tradesmen who can barely add two numbers together. Here in Seattle almost literally every single trade from drywallers, to electricians, to painters are all making six figures. Do you know how much engineers make around here? I will give you a hint: it's not that much.

how bad would it be to rewrite someone elses vhdl projects and add them to your resume as yours, but you can explain how they work if asked during interview? any of you guys add someone elses projects to your resume?

>>10562358
Don't. That's disgusting and if anyone finds out you never wash that off.

>>10562380
it would be kinda of hard to prove its not yours if you rewrote it, you get me? But I'm curious if anyone else has lied on their resume to beef it up?

>>10562358
i mean thats not really a bad idea as long as you can live with it. the heart of getting a job is lying anyway, everyone does it

i found out some fucking pajeets in my semester are doing a group project that they found online. i'm not telling on them because the group project course was dumb to begin with

>>10543531
Join clubs that have technical components. You can put it on your resume, you will learn stuff, and it can help find friends.

>>10551154
Anyone? Are there even engineers here on the same field as me?

>>10562613
Optics engineering is based, but very niche. You can try applying to an american company if there are any in your country, or even online and hope they sponsor you to move to usa and get a job. If youre argentine just get your italian passport and work in the eu.

>>10562594
>the heart of getting a job is lying anyway, everyone does it
I can't think of anything more useless than a dishonest engineer

>>10562682
>tfw grand parents from both sides were spaniards
>tfw spanish passport does not jump generation
I got caught up on some loophole where I can't get it because my parents were 18 before the new Spanish constitution so technically they aren't from Spanish descent even though my grandparents are literally from there.

Anyway, the biggest issue I found with visa sponsorship is that most of the places won't do it for people without job experience. My experience is solely academic with some publications on IEEE and some photonics journals.

>>10530538
Nuke plant is just a steam plant

>>10529938
but what if I don't like plastics engineering?

>>10530591
the trick is to get a 200k job in SV or the bay area and work remotely from a super low CoL area. I know a guy who got a senior data scientist position straight out of his MIT PhD in matsci and does just that.

>>10530950
if you want good bucks go into CS or medicine.

Guys
If I take a couple of years after graduating to be a NEET would that basically end any hope of getting an engineering job?

Lads i have no idea what im doing on my mechanical engineering bachelors even though im nearly 3 weeks away from second year exams

>>10562473
>But I'm curious if anyone else has lied on their resume to beef it up?

I have
I wrote up a bunch of fake internships on my resume and gave my roommate's number as a reference. It got me my first job. If you have no experience and a shit gpa just lie. I didn't get caught

>>10563403
Shits like you are why I struggled so much to get my first job. My resume was so good that nobody believed it was real. Fuck you.

Landed a job at the QC department, spectrometer lab! The company has a Thermo Fischer ARL 4460 spectrometer and there is an option to go to Thermo Fischer operators training school. I am going to ask them what it takes to get a job as a field service engineer and going to do everything to switch in a couple years.
Now I have not only a means to support myself, but an opportunity to study and a clear route to follow, wish me luck :3
Man, it feels good to be an engineer!

>>10563159
yes. you should at least get a job for 6 months to a year before quitting to become a neet. it's a win-win too because you will get a lot of neetbux from it.

also make sure you have an excuse (mental health, family death, etc) and some sort of project you worked on in the meanwhile even if its small

>>10560855
>In high school, I did 3 internships
I wish I was a minority

>>10560818
The material isn't even that bad. Most of my grief comes from all the stress of having to maintain a decent GPA, which won't even help me get an internship because I'm not black, hispanic, arab/indian/whatever ,or a woman.

>>10563904
I'm not a minority. I got into contact with a contractor and he directed me towards people in HR to contact. Apparently the office manager was in the process of trying to get colleges in the area to open up co-ops to them, but never filed the paperwork and got too busy to refile.
They wanted an intern because they had a bunch of busy work (compiling relevant drawings, creating searchable documents from decade old scans of mil spec forms, checking documents/drawings for quantity/spelling/callout errors, etc) and no one with enough time or resources to devote to it.
Since they didn't have their paperwork in for college student co-ops, they didn't get any college students applying for a position, so they chose me. Turns out they liked me, so they keep having me.

>>10563206
I feel its kinda like this for a lot of people. I know I was until I opened up the book and started reading and doing the hw, then I kinda got a hang of wtf was going on.

>>10563206
You have only completed a single year of the program, come on fag. You're still doing pretty general courses at that time. Third year courses will be sink or swim so you'll have an idea of what you're doing. Or you won't. But you probably will.

>>10563908
Have you gone on a job search yet? How are your interviewing skills? I'm white and my GPA is shit (didn't even list it on my resume). I had 7 companies call me for an interview and I got 7 job offers.
Most companies don't wanna hire some weirdo who smells like piss and doesn't know how to act around other people, even if that person has a 4.0. They're gonna have to teach you how to do your job anyway, and no matter what kind of student you are, chances are you don't know what to do with the stuff you learn in school when you enter the workplace.

>>10563908
>hurrr le i have to be a minority excuse because i cant be bothered to apply and see where I stand
nigga you sound fucking retarded and deluded as fuck. How about you go apply and see whats up. Apply to big and small companies, even if you dont make the gpa cut-off they list just apply and put your projects. Make a linkedin and look up recruiters and contact thema bout possible internships so they can pin out your resume. Come off as a team player, not an austist fuck and you'll be ok. The keyword here is TRY, you have to try and get out there shit isn't handed out to anyone. Even those minorities you complain about had to apply and theres a chance they reached out in various places. Dont make excuses, apply yourself.

What are interesting fields/specializations for MechE? I’m going into third year this fall.

Honestly seems like my friends in physics/applied math could do any job I could :( been feeling under the weather, especially seeing all these posts of people who got burned from shitty jobs.

>>10563417
You also had weird time gaps in your resume and likely did a poor job explaining that. You might have been going through some shit but the way you explained made it seem suspicious and flakey.

>>10530646
If you want to do anything cool, you're gonna need to go to grad school.

>>10564590
Really?

>t. about to graduate bachelors

>>10528577
>important problems
Yes here at starbucks we take the customer's latte order very seriously

>>10551086
>tfw I fell for the business calculus

>>10561905
six figures in seattle isn't shit

>>10564676
You really think someone can't get a good job with a PhD in ECE? If so, that shows how little you know

If the pinnacle of medicine is being a surgeon.
And if the pinnacle of law is being a judge.
What is the pinnacle of engineering?

>>10537563
The definition of engineering is applying the knowledge math and science to solve problems. I am surprised that I don't see your posts in /med/ general.

E.E B.S. here. Should I get an M.S.? Should I get an MBA? Should I strive for a Engr.D after an M.S. or should I strive for a PhD?

>>10565580
>>10565580
Nobody could give you a good answer to this without knowing your goals

Has anyone else gotten into industry after academia and just kind of realized your heart isn't in the work? I finished my MS in physics, got a great starting job at a top tier semiconductor company, but can't find myself getting interested when I know everything is just to make the company richer, and profits trump investigation and critical analysis

>>10557248
Forward error correction and information theory for terabit communication systems is some cool shit.

>>10565761
That's why I went into government research

>>10565783
Mind explaining how you got there or what field you work in? I think at this point that's my end goal, but I figured it wasn't the kind of position I could get right out of grad school with only an MS. I'd love to get a position at NIST or something in the future.

>>10565761
one of my engineering professors would ramble about the millions engineers would make companies and the little pay they would get in return. He said he had his own consulting gig and stuff, maybe look into starting your own firm and offering services? Apparently theres real money doing this, but maybe someone with more experience can provide more insight.

>>10565807
this is me >>10528577
My PhD advisor had lots of connections with govt research orgs. One of them sponsored my PhD project and I interned with them several times during grad school. So they offered me a job. Basically every government org has an internship program so start with that. it helps if have a connection

>>10565817
i think you need a lot of experience and connections to go that route. i might do it later in my career

>>10565824
That's good for you. I'm almost following the same route, however, researches at my country receive much less than what the industry generally pays. I'm just doing it because I have no other option.

>>10565573
breaking six figures without taking two jobs

god what was i thinking getting this useless degree